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Marvel's Eternals

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On one hand suprising lack CG baddies and energy blasts(expect that to change in the next trailer) with it seeming more a scifi drama about immortals, on the other why do movies need these dark desaturated filters that make things seem so lifeless?
 
So, what were these uber powerful entities doing while Thanos was carving a bloody path through the universe with the explicit purpose of rewriting reality?
 
Given in the comics Thanos is one of the Eternals an especially good question if they keep his connection to them in the MCU.
 
Sabertooth said:
So, what were these uber powerful entities doing while Thanos was carving a bloody path through the universe with the explicit purpose of rewriting reality?
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I know Marvel is going to disappoint me on this, but... I think it'd be really interesting if they didn't give a fuck about Thanos. They're immortals. They've seen multiple civilizations and cultures collapse. This is just more of the same to them.

You could get a really good drama story about a group of people who have become so detached from mortality that all they want to do is hang out, drink beer, and go about their lives while the rest of the MCU is happening in the background, with some ethical and moral exploration of common Science Fiction Uplift tropes.
 
Tiresias said:
I know Marvel is going to disappoint me on this, but... I think it'd be really interesting if they didn't give a fuck about Thanos. They're immortals. They've seen multiple civilizations and cultures collapse. This is just more of the same to them.

You could get a really good drama story about a group of people who have become so detached from mortality that all they want to do is hang out, drink beer, and go about their lives while the rest of the MCU is happening in the background, with some ethical and moral exploration of common Science Fiction Uplift tropes.
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Pretty sure the Infinity Gauntlet and the power it gives is above their immortality. All it takes is just "snap to make these pesky gods go away". It literally can rewrite reality.
 
Tiresias said:
I know Marvel is going to disappoint me on this, but... I think it'd be really interesting if they didn't give a fuck about Thanos. They're immortals. They've seen multiple civilizations and cultures collapse. This is just more of the same to them.

You could get a really good drama story about a group of people who have become so detached from mortality that all they want to do is hang out, drink beer, and go about their lives while the rest of the MCU is happening in the background, with some ethical and moral exploration of common Science Fiction Uplift tropes.
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Except rewriting reality to wipe out half of all life would be the sort of thing that forces their hand.
 
Sabertooth said:
So, what were these uber powerful entities doing while Thanos was carving a bloody path through the universe with the explicit purpose of rewriting reality?
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I mean "kill half of life, then retire" isn't actually the sort of thing they'd intervene in. Its certainly not the sort of thing their Celestial creators would have given a shit about.
 
Tiresias said:
.. I think it'd be really interesting if they didn't give a fuck about Thanos. They're immortals. They've seen multiple civilizations and cultures collapse. This is just more of the same to them.
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That was the point of the original series. They were so advanced, so powerful, that they were mostly aloof from Earth affairs, concentrated only on the Deviant threat and the even more powerful Celestials
 
Tiresias said:
I know Marvel is going to disappoint me on this, but... I think it'd be really interesting if they didn't give a fuck about Thanos. They're immortals. They've seen multiple civilizations and cultures collapse. This is just more of the same to them.

You could get a really good drama story about a group of people who have become so detached from mortality that all they want to do is hang out, drink beer, and go about their lives while the rest of the MCU is happening in the background, with some ethical and moral exploration of common Science Fiction Uplift tropes.
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That doesn't sound very interesting, just sounds like a way to make the characters very unlikable.
Especially when Thanos himself is an Eternal, the idea they don't care he's going around exterminating half of all life is just easy way to root for them to fail.
 
Jaxxx said:
That doesn't sound very interesting, just sounds like a way to make the characters very unlikable.
Especially when Thanos himself is an Eternal, the idea they don't care he's going around exterminating half of all life is just easy way to root for them to fail.
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I am pretty sure that's going to be, you know, kind of the point of this movie.

The Eternals are not supposed to be the perfect exemplar heroes. They're distant godlike beings who are now coming to question their original purpose.
 
IfIhadaHammer said:
I am pretty sure that's going to be, you know, kind of the point of this movie.

The Eternals are not supposed to be the perfect exemplar heroes. They're distant godlike beings who are now coming to question their original purpose.
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I just find the idea they knew about Thanos and his plan to gain near infinite power and saw such a thing as beneath them as very insulting, like if you wanna give them that kind of attitude just keep it strictly to Earth issues, but the idea that they somehow didn't care about the power to rewrite and control reality falling into the hand's of a genocidal mad man?
No, that's the sort of thing everyone should care about, like if major enough for Galactus(at least in the comics) to get involved than it's more than enough for them.
 
Jaxxx said:
I just find the idea they knew about Thanos and his plan to gain near infinite power and saw such a thing as beneath them as very insulting, like if you wanna give them that kind of attitude just keep it strictly to Earth issues, but the idea that they somehow didn't care about the power to rewrite and control reality falling into the hand's of a genocidal mad man?
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Why would they know about it?

thanos isn't an eternal in MCU, he's a guy from the planet Titan in some other stellar system.
 
Chloe Sullivan said:
Why would they know about it?
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Nothing says they do.
I was just responding to the idea that the characters would somehow be more interesting if they knew about Thanos and what he was planning but didn't care.
Chloe Sullivan said:
thanos isn't an eternal in MCU, he's a guy from the planet Titan in some other stellar system.
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What species Thanos and his people are has yet to be discussed in the MCU.
But I don't think it's a coincidence that the Eternals are being introduced after Thanos has been dealt with, and that had Covid not messed things up this would've been the first phase 4 movie to take place post Endgame.
 
Shanejayell said:
Uhm, it was covered in Infinity War. They were a industrial civilization that got overpopulated, not enough resouces and they died out.
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Yes we know that their civilization died out supposedly due to overpopulation, but we don't actually know what the species is, so whether or not the Inhabitants of Titan were a group of separate Eternals like they were in the comics is currently unknown
 
But it was covered. So possibly edit your post or something.

Anyway.... I suspect they won't get into Thanos or connect to the Eternals at all, since we never saw any Eternals related stuff in the earlier films.
 
Shanejayell said:
But it was covered. So possibly edit your post or something.

Anyway.... I suspect they won't get into Thanos or connect to the Eternals at all, since we never saw any Eternals related stuff in the earlier films.
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It wasn't covered though.
They told us what happened to Thanos' species, but not anything about them or even what they were called outside of that.
 
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Shanejayell said:
But it was covered. So possibly edit your post or something.

Anyway.... I suspect they won't get into Thanos or connect to the Eternals at all, since we never saw any Eternals related stuff in the earlier films.
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They retcon stuff all the time.

Just because it wasn't shown doesn't mean they won't retroactively put it there.
 
New and apparently final Eternals Trailer dropped, honestly it looks pretty interesting.


I love me some Celestials. Some people called it, they are addressing the aftermath of Thanos and why the Eternals didn't get involved. Jury's out on Thanos being an Eternal or not, but it's likely, considering I recall Kevin Feige in an news article around the time before Infinity War was released saying that the movie didn't really go into detail about Thanos's origins, and honestly it just makes sense to tie them together.
 
I dunno, if any Marvel movie should look like a Jack Kirby acid trip it should be this one, but the color palette on that seemed really bland.

Also, over/under odds on on "the Emergence" referring to there being a baby Celestial at the center of the earth?
 
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Wow that looks... really bad. Its somehow both very grey and covered in annoying CGI nonsense. I think that Marvel movies as a cultural feature are definitely on the way down but this might accelerate that process.
 
I want to tell my 2008 self "Oh yeah that Iron Man movie...it's gonna lead to a movie about the eternals...it will be directed by an oscar winner and you'll have some hype for it"
 
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