[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.

Every moment that goes by that we do not have eyes on Vivo is a moment where she could be in danger and we would not know.
That cannot stand!
 
I respect J for helping lead this discourse so neutrally.

At that, Stern finally spoke up, "Isn't that...excessive? It seems rather-"​

If Vivio wanted privacy rights, she should have thought of that before she was artificially created.

[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.

But to be (pseudo) serious merely charging in and trying to stomp things is clearly not going to be the way forward here; if we want to be a good bodyguard we need to hone our skills. If we're strong enough, Vivio won't need to be surveilled all the time because we'll have her properly safe and protected through our immense power, and if she isn't that safe, well then clearly we aren't strong enough bodyguards.
 
If Vivio wanted privacy rights, she should have thought of that before she was artificially created.
Ouch. Have a Funny.


[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.


In addition to what the others already said, we set a precedent of being a goal-focussed, tactical thinking Einhart by retreating from the other encounter before. I would like to continue that and build up our strength before we make ourselves known; time for training will get more rare once the opposition knows we are actually there.
 
[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
 
Pedant/linguophile mode engaged
You paused to let everyone fully grasp and comprehend what you just said, but are met with only awkward silence. Was...was it because you used the more archaic and technically more proper 'Heiliger' rather than the more modern transliteration of 'Sankt', thus leading to confusion.
Checking online dictionary, that's should be 'Heilige' but then again the 'Kaiser' part is also used in the masculine form, whereas the feminine form should be 'Kaiserin'. Ah well. :V

What's the out-of-universe reasoning for making 'Heiliger' the 'proper form' instead of Sankt BTW? If there's any subtle difference of meaning in IRL German, I can't find at glimpse by Google.

[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
 
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Checking online dictionary, that's should be 'Heilige' but then again the 'Kaiser' part is also used in the masculine form, whereas the feminine form should be 'Kaiserin'. Ah well. :V

What's the out-of-universe reasoning for making 'Heiliger' the 'proper form' instead of Sankt BTW? If there's any subtle difference of meaning in IRL German, I can't find at glimpse by Google.
This is correct.

As far as I know, "Heilige/-r" and "Sankt" are interchangable in regards to their meaning; the latter is normally used for certain figures of the church, though.
 
What's the out-of-universe reasoning for making 'Heiliger' the 'proper form' instead of Sankt BTW? If there's any subtle difference of meaning in IRL German, I can't find at glimpse by Google.
I re-watched StrikerS and that's what the Cradle used when it was blaring its warning alert. People just used Sankt in the fandom because...uh, it was easier I guess?
 
[X] You waited long enough; there are threats out there that need to be eliminated, so eliminate them you shall. You shall nothing to pose any possible harm to her.
 
[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
 
[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.
 
[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.

GO J GO
 
[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.

Silly Vivio, thinking that the aristocracy is entitled to privacy of all things. :lol
 
[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.

Punch the Strong?
 
[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.

While intelligence is important...

I find...

...Trouble in giving a debated Scaliliti clone a full surveillance system to watch a sankt. :confused:

But then again, there is always an alternative and our worries could be for not.

Anyways, don't know why people are voting for "get stronger". We won't know who to strike at if she gets hurt by somebody, thus the need for a surveillance system. If we can get it up and running now, we don't have to worry about it later, and potentially miss vital intel exclusive to this quest. "Get stronger" we can do anytime with limited consequences.

Being caught by outside investigators while setting up the surveillance system is a risk, however...
 
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Anyways, don't know why people are voting for "get stronger". We won't know who to strike at if she gets hurt by somebody, thus the need for a surveillance system. If we can get it up and running now, we don't have to worry about it later, and potentially miss vital intel exclusive to this quest. "Get stronger" we can do anytime with limited consequences.
I would like to remind you that Vivio is the daughter of one Takamachi Nanoha; the very most powerful mage in the entire setting. Anything that manages to hurt the girl and does not get obliterated by her mother is out of Einhart's league.

Surveillance is a good thing for later, but Vivio should be safe for now. Getting stronger takes priority to me.
 
J, on the other hand, simply clapped in applause and calmly spoke to you, "My lord, I would be honored to put my technical expertise to use in aid of your objectives; both in arming your troops, as well as for surveillance purposes. Just give the word, and I will have the Sankt Kaiser on watch 24/7; you'll know what she had for breakfast, when she's out with friends, even what shampoo she uses. There will be nothing hidden from you..."

At that, Stern finally spoke up, "Isn't that...excessive? It seems rather-"

"Ah, but Stern, don't you remember?" J responded, cutting off Stern, "Why it wasn't even four years ago when that dreadful incident happened across Midchilda; the psychotic madman who rumor says managed to make the Cradle rise in East Midchilda and almost got it fully operational to raze the planet to the ground? If anything, our liege's recent discovery suggests that the rumors are true, and that the girl was in fact the likely key that was used to trigger such an event."
Another reason not to go full Big Brother on Vivio is that we suspect J to be Jail Scaglietti; or at least related to him.

With how he tried to push for his idea here, especially with the wording in the last paragraph, I am rather sure he has his own ideas and plans on the matter. So I would prefer not to give him full access to Vivio's schedules, contacts and whatever else before we know him a little better and can make a guess for what he wants.

Or... at least until he gives us a reason to actually trust him with this.
 
Nitpick: Hayate's more powerful than Nanoha. And she's not the only one.

This is fair, but I doubt Hayate is going to be succumbing into despair and going to the Dark Side anytime soon (not to mention that while Hayate beats Nanoha in raw power, she has some pretty distinct limitations), and honestly I expect we'll get fair warning before anybody more powerful than a S+ mage (two if Fate happens to be around) hits the scene. (I'm not saying you disagree per se, I just think these are factors worth pointing out.)

And honestly if "J" wants us to do something, that's a pretty huge sign that we probably shouldn't do it, at least not the way he wants. Dude is super sus and while a valuable asset, I don't really want to take any of his ~ideas~ to heart. It's better to train and try to protect Vivio on our own terms.
 
Alright, time for a vote tally:
Adhoc vote count started by EnderofWorlds on Mar 10, 2018 at 9:15 PM, finished with 146 posts and 14 votes.

  • [X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
    [X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.
    [X] You waited long enough; there are threats out there that need to be eliminated, so eliminate them you shall. You shall nothing to pose any possible harm to her.
EnderofWorlds threw 4 100-faced dice. Reason: Hunt for Power Total: 144
41 41 90 90 1 1 12 12
 
Jesus, there's a Clone!Jail(?) running about and here we go allowing him to sink his claws into Vivio.

It's for her own protection, you say?
Okay then. :D

Also, I assume J will make the surveillance system anyway even if Einhart tells him to cool his boots now.
Might as well focus on other things like GETTING SWOLE.




P.S. Where did that PUNCH THE STRONG thing come from? It's catchy.
 
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