[X] Defeat her; it would be...so easy, for you to just fight her and prove that the Hegemon has surpassed the Sankt Kaiser. You have trained and bled every year for such a moment, and she hasn't appeared to even recall what the Kaiser Arts even are. Maybe this will put the past at rest, perhaps this victory will overwrite the defeat of ages long gone, and help to assuage the eternal guilt of your ancestor. Klaus could not surpass Olivie, but you could; you could do so here and now.
 
[X] Cherish her; maybe it was the memories influencing you, maybe Klaus's wistful regrets were stronger than his ambitions, but it ultimately matters not. Maybe it was running from reality, but the happiest moments of your life revolved around the brief moments of joy that your ancestor had with the Sankt Kaiser. Now that the opportunity to repeat those happy days with Olivie has shown itself, you have decided to selfishly indulge yourself in creating your own. Klaus my be spinning in his grave at your foolishness, but damn it all you couldn't resist...you were just too weak...
 
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So these are some rather hard choices, if you look at them closely enough. Each one would... End up at a bad place. In the end, we are going to lose something here. Whether it is;

  1. Option A) Providing extra protection, and, in the long run, only to find out that she already is being protected by the top 5 mages in the entire Interdimensional Alliance, Therefore prompting In-Character Einheart to try to fight them to out-protect Vivio. Which, at the current state, isn't going to work very well. We would loose psychically, and, if the userbase ducks out, we would loose mentally. Again.
  2. Option B) Fighting. We would look to brash in some scenarios, Especially if there are going to be witnesses. Besides, it's a school, (unless we go somewhere else to fight) even with barriers, I'm assuming an Academy of Magic has a way to see through them. This brashness may either prompt investigation or may effect some outcomes. We would loose positive reputation.
  3. Option C) Cherishing. This, with our current mental state, would not only lead to, not only, protectiveness, but so much so possessiveness as well, if we take Klaus' memories and motivations into consideration. Also coupled with the PTSD accounts, We would loose mental sanity (somewhat).
The deeper you think about it, the harder you realize it is. These are just the tip of the iceberg (and may not be exactly accurate) For everyone of these points, we loose something. Now, it all matters what we are willing to loose. I have currently, no idea what we are willing to loose, so I, myself, will duck out until we can get some glorious discussion here.
 
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[X] Protect her; look at her, she is soft, delicate, and clearly a scholar first and foremost given how swiftly she's rattling off facts from such illustrious texts. And why wouldn't she? This isn't an era of war, but of peace; there was no reason for her to take up the Kaiser Arts, especially if she wasn't haunted by the past as you were. No...you could not allow anything to stain such purity and innocence; where Klaus had failed, you will succeed. You will keep her safe, and away from the horrors that had consumed Olivie in the past; you will accept nothing less, and will gather all the power and strength you could to do so.

Pledge to Protect
 
Defeat and Cherish started gathering support chasing Protect I see.

The deeper you think about it, the harder you realize it is. These are just the tip of the iceberg (and may not be exactly accurate) For everyone of these points, we loose something. Now, it all matters what we are willing to loose. I have currently, no idea what we are willing to loose, so I, myself, will duck out until we can get some glorious discussion here.
Yes. My assessment is dfferennt, but I essentially agree with the conclusion. That all of these options is kind of bad. And they should be. These are trauma-induced mania-derived thoughts. Obviously bad place is where it leads to. What I'm disagree however, is the idea that we will only lose things. That is we also stand to gain something from each option. And choosing the best gain, is as much the dillemma as choosing what we are willing to suffer.'

For example of gain: Each three options stand us to gain interesting dynamics with Vivio - protector (cum stalker :p), antagonist rival, or loving friend.

I choose Defeat. Because despite every other possible cost, it's the one that will leads to us most directly entangled with Vivio, and the people around here. The later are not less important, because those people are experts at rehabilitating a magical girl with burden on her shoulders.

Protector may leads to interaction too, but likely more distant. Cherish is surely going to lead more interaction, but likely in ways that communicate less of our problem. Cherish-route's interaction with Vivio is going to be fun, and happy, which is good. But for the context of this quest, and Klaus/Einhart/Ingvalt line, conflict-based interaction is more dramatically appropriate than fuwa fuwa time

As for reputation. Well, first it doesn't necessarily lead to puching her right there. Depends on how Ender play it out, it could be challenging her for fighting somewhere else later. There's a bit of wiggle room. More importantly though, Einhart don't really care. Well, we kind of should care OOC. But honestly, one incident of deliquancy is not so overtly damaging. And we are kind of in a gang already. :V Under assumed name yes, but this is essentially just being less honest about it.

And most importantly, to Vivio, well, it may be not good impression exactly. But, um, Fate didn't give Nahoha what you can call good impression either, :V and looks where that leads them :p
 
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What I'm disagree however, is the idea that we will only lose things. That is we also stand to gain something from each option. And choosing the best gain, is as much the dillemma as choosing what we are willing to suffer.'

I agree too. But at the time, I was more focused on the negative, since I was low on time... And I am still low on time.

As for reputation. Well, first it doesn't necessarily lead to puching her right there. Depends on how Ender play it out, it could be challenging her for fighting somewhere else later. There's a bit of wiggle room. More importantly though, Einhart don't really care. Well, we kind of should care OOC. But honestly, one incident of deliquancy is not so overtly damaging. And we are kind of in a gang already. :V Under assumed name yes, but this is essentially just being less honest about it.

Too be honest, Einhart should care, well, because, punching your love interest in the face may spike emotional pain. :p

Besides, even then, witnesses are everywhere. and must be eliminated

It would be difficult to hide our battle, unless we get BombMage over to get a barrier for us, but even then, this is Midchilda, so it would shine like a lighthouse to investigators. Then again, Einhart right now is in "Must say something to Vivio" mode, so her chance of being, well, smart and calling over BombMage for barriers is low. And, that right now is worrying.
 
[X] Protect her; look at her, she is soft, delicate, and clearly a scholar first and foremost given how swiftly she's rattling off facts from such illustrious texts. And why wouldn't she? This isn't an era of war, but of peace; there was no reason for her to take up the Kaiser Arts, especially if she wasn't haunted by the past as you were. No...you could not allow anything to stain such purity and innocence; where Klaus had failed, you will succeed. You will keep her safe, and away from the horrors that had consumed Olivie in the past; you will accept nothing less, and will gather all the power and strength you could to do so.
 
I agree too. But at the time, I was more focused on the negative, since I was low on time... And I am still low on time.



Too be honest, Einhart should care, well, because, punching your love interest in the face may spike emotional pain. :p

Besides, even then, witnesses are everywhere. and must be eliminated

It would be difficult to hide our battle, unless we get BombMage over to get a barrier for us, but even then, this is Midchilda, so it would shine like a lighthouse to investigators. Then again, Einhart right now is in "Must say something to Vivio" mode, so her chance of being, well, smart and calling over BombMage for barriers is low. And, that right now is worrying.
Um. I think you are making this bigger deal than what it is. You make it sound like we are going to do capital crime. :???: It's brawl. Between kids. Yes, magical kids, but still teenage brawl.
I also has noted that it don't necessarily lead to punching her right there right away. It can play out in several ways. We just punch her. We challenge her, and fight this out at gym or something. We pubch her, but fight stopped by others or because reasons and ambush later at night in Ingvalt mode to finish bussiness. Etc.

If we do choose not to just punch her this very moment... Yeah remember what's einhart been doing? There are ways to ambush people without drawing attention.
 
It's worth noting that my canon experience with this portion of Nanoha is limited- I only watched the first couple episodes of Strike and barely remember Vivid. So I'm playing this by ear more or less. Personally I think that one of the more positive results is what we'll get from Protect, but I admit that that is purely supposition, but sadly supposition is mostly what we have to work with here, even with canon info.

It is the right thing, to do, to just pick up fight with someone who came up to friendly chat with us, and that we perceive as weak for that matter? No, not really. But so what? We may not wishing to be villain exactly, but we already walk on a unwholesome path. Picking fights with people out of the blue, joining a gang and fighting turf war. Weakness is a greater sin still.

If she is indeed weak as they are. So be it. It shall be some measure of solace for us, that the Olvie in this life in not one embarked on path of violence and wars. That in this life at least, our incarnation are stronger than hers. After, if needs be, amends can be made, new paths can be sought. If our challenge led her to seek strength? That too is fine. Yes, it will grief our heart to see Olivie on that path again, but in the end, it is better for one to be strong than to be weak. We'll simply rise even stronger. If we turn out to be the weaker one? Then nothing changes. We are weak, that is known already. Our life quest is for the sake of changing that, but we cannot do that if we wallow ourselves in a lie of being stronger.

If our assumption of our strength is correct, then let it be validated. If its an illusion, the sooner it is dispelled the better. Whatever the truth is, whatever the outcome would be, it must be known.

Fight her.

I don't see Einhart as seeing our path as unwholesome, though. She is simply pursuing the path of strength, wherever it made lead; I think overall we'd still want to make the choice that feels most right, rather than emphasizing weakness over our own feelings, and I feel like Fight Her leans toward this approach. I will say that the rest of your argument has definite merit though; it definitely does make sense from an IC standpoint. That said, I think you're downplaying the amount of effect that trauma could have- while our last attempt didn't end terribly, it was a far more minor offense, as it were, than actually fighting somebody that we are (rather irrationally but still) desperately compassionate toward and attached to. I'm not sure I think that emphasizing the more... neutral and pseudo-pragmatic aspects of Ein's personality is smart because she isn't thinking pragmatically or even like her usual self at the moment; she's thinking quite heavily emotionally and I think that's the grounds by which she'd make this choice.
 
I think it's worth noting that if we fight Not!Olivie and get bodied, as I suspect we might, it would basically confirm and enforce Einheart's perception of being too weak.
 
Okay, so on the good Kaiser's regrets:
-Protect

This is the Kaiser who deeply regretted not being by her side when she fell, that he could have saved her rather than be at the other side of the country while she fought and fell alone. This is what he WISHED he did instead of trying to forbid her by force

-Fight

This is the Kaiser who deeply regretted that he failed to stop her from going to her death. This is the Historical Kaiser route.
He regrets failing at beating her up and locking her away for her own safety and for her own good.

-Cherish

This is the Kaiser whose greatest regret was that he was not a better friend. That he never confessed his feelings because of politics and fear of rejection.
He doesn't want to change Olivie.

At least, that's from the ViVid manga. The Flashback Trap is under the Fight option, because thats what he did in the past. He didn't Protect, by the time he caught up to her all he could do was avenge her by waging such war that the peace she fought for was shattered. He didn't Cherish, he never told her how he felt.
 
I'm just looking at this and seeing all the ways we're going to lose eventually. I mean... it's like staring down Nanoha. You're not going to meaningfully win in the end. You're just not.

But Einheart's entire, precarious mental-structure is built upon the need to do just that in a lot of ways.
 
I'm just looking at this and seeing all the ways we're going to lose eventually. I mean... it's like staring down Nanoha. You're not going to meaningfully win in the end. You're just not.

But Einheart's entire, precarious mental-structure is built upon the need to do just that in a lot of ways.

Which is why I voted Protect. Cherish is a trap to lead Einheart into delusions, while Punch leads towards too many ways to get our hand broken, when breaking our hand is exactly what will continue to wreck Einheart's mental state.
 
Which is why I voted Protect. Cherish is a trap to lead Einheart into delusions, while Punch leads towards too many ways to get our hand broken, when breaking our hand is exactly what will continue to wreck Einheart's mental state.
Protect leads into it just as much. She's going to be overly and restrictively protective and then Vivio is going to take offense to that or see us getting hurt protecting her or etc. etc.

And then she's going to get stronger to try and help/protect us or prove us wrong. With a side chance of punching our face in to prove the point.

Einhart: "Ah. Hello Trauma, my good old friend. How are you today?"
 
I don't see Einhart as seeing our path as unwholesome, though. She is simply pursuing the path of strength, wherever it made lead; I think overall we'd still want to make the choice that feels most right, rather than emphasizing weakness over our own feelings, and I feel like Fight Her leans toward this approach. I will say that the rest of your argument has definite merit though; it definitely does make sense from an IC standpoint. That said, I think you're downplaying the amount of effect that trauma could have- while our last attempt didn't end terribly, it was a far more minor offense, as it were, than actually fighting somebody that we are (rather irrationally but still) desperately compassionate toward and attached to. I'm not sure I think that emphasizing the more... neutral and pseudo-pragmatic aspects of Ein's personality is smart because she isn't thinking pragmatically or even like her usual self at the moment; she's thinking quite heavily emotionally and I think that's the grounds by which she'd make this choice.
Mmm, i don't have anything in response atnm in regard the rest of this post atm, but regarding the last bit. I don't think the Fight/Defeat her option is any less emotional than the other options.
Okay, so on the good Kaiser's regrets:
-Protect

This is the Kaiser who deeply regretted not being by her side when she fell, that he could have saved her rather than be at the other side of the country while she fought and fell alone. This is what he WISHED he did instead of trying to forbid her by force

-Fight

This is the Kaiser who deeply regretted that he failed to stop her from going to her death. This is the Historical Kaiser route.
He regrets failing at beating her up and locking her away for her own safety and for her own good.

-Cherish

This is the Kaiser whose greatest regret was that he was not a better friend. That he never confessed his feelings because of politics and fear of rejection.
He doesn't want to change Olivie.

At least, that's from the ViVid manga. The Flashback Trap is under the Fight option, because thats what he did in the past. He didn't Protect, by the time he caught up to her all he could do was avenge her by waging such war that the peace she fought for was shattered. He didn't Cherish, he never told her how he felt.
Mmm. I don't remember/know much obviously, but I'm guessing that Protect was not an option for Klaus. Not at the end. I got the impression that Olivie was going for suicidal/sacrificial mission with the Cradle. if that Impression is true, then Klaus option was either stop her forcefully - which in essence also convincing her that there enough power other than her's so that she don't need to risk her life-; or go along and accompany her to death. Of course I may be wrong.

I think it's worth noting that if we fight Not!Olivie and get bodied, as I suspect we might, it would basically confirm and enforce Einheart's perception of being too weak.

Which is why I voted Protect. Cherish is a trap to lead Einheart into delusions, while Punch leads towards too many ways to get our hand broken, when breaking our hand is exactly what will continue to wreck Einheart's mental state.
But as noted several times in this thread, that confirmation will happen anyway regardless of choice. Even if we go with Protect, Einhart will eventually have to face that Vivio is strong, and surrounded by equally or stronger people. We'll got meet inadequacy feeling soon or later.

Better soon than later, I'd say, and in the way that draw attention to Vivio and people around that we have a problem.
I'm just looking at this and seeing all the ways we're going to lose eventually. I mean... it's like staring down Nanoha. You're not going to meaningfully win in the end. You're just not.
Right, looking at this realistically we are going not win no matter what. Realisitically, the solution to Klaus regret is not attaining supreme power, its would be more along the lines of coping with one's own weakness and/or not bearing burden to protect by oneself.

Protect, the way I see it, is still going the wrong way about it. It taking up the whole burden of protecting one's important ones into oneself, complete with refusal to acknowledge the other's strength/trusting them to protect themselves. It do think it can still go the right way, if Einhart can realize that.

As it is though, every route including Protect is going to go bad place. None of that is the right option. The question is, which one of those more likely to lead to Enihart finding the right answer?
 
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Mmm, i don't have anything in response atnm in regard the rest of this post atm, but regarding the last bit. I don't think the Fight/Defeat her option is any less emotional than the other options.

Yeah, I'mma concede that part because looking back at the summary of the IC rationale for the option, I'm inclined to agree.

The more we talk about this, the more I'm inclined to agree that this is kind of a trio of bad choices and the issue is optimization or the "least bad", rather than picking the "right one". So I think I'll keep my vote for now, but will be happy to swing depending on what people who remember Einhart better/are far more familiar with the character think is the best call in the end, and I'm far more open to fighting her now than I was prior to the conversation, so I'll be tempted to shift to that, worst comes to worst.
 
But as noted several times in this thread, that confirmation will happen anyway regardless of choice. Even if we go with Protect, Einhart will eventually have to face that Vivio is strong, and surrounded by equally or stronger people. We'll got meet inadequacy feeling soon or later.

Better soon than later, I'd say, and in the way that draw attention to Vivio and people around that we have a problem.

Oh I definitely agree - even if we pick a theoretical "best route" that minimizes the trauma and mental problems that Einheart has, she's still going to have her buttons hammered.

I just think easing her way into realizing that sort of thing is the better option for her mental state, rather than having it be destroyed all at once - and if we want to have our problems show up on other people's radars, then having it be over time so they can see those problems develop and come to light is better.
 
I just think easing her way into realizing that sort of thing is the better option for her mental state, rather than having it be destroyed all at once - and if we want to have our problems show up on other people's radars, then having it be over time so they can see those problems develop and come to light is better.
Mmm, valid point.


EDIT: BTW checking the wiki. I thought I remember moment of Einhart losing in VIvid, but as far I can glean in wiki, there's no indication that Einhart ever been defeated. In regard to versus Vivio, their first fight end with solid win for Ein and close win on the rematch. This may or may not be true here in this quest and the current time. But that's what the wiki says happened in canon. Food for thought.

EDIT2: Ah she lost agains Sieglinde.
 
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Mmm. I don't remember/know much obviously, but I'm guessing that Protect was not an option for Klaus. Not at the end. I got the impression that Olivie was going for suicidal/sacrificial mission with the Cradle. if that Impression is true, then Klaus option was either stop her forcefully - which in essence also convincing her that there enough power other than her's so that she don't need to risk her life-; or go along and accompany her to death. Of course I may be wrong.
Indeed, because Klaus lacked an advanced magitech dimensional battlecrusier he couldn't follow after Olivie, nor could he enter the Cradle itself for obvious reasons. The last he ever saw of her was her back as she walked away from his battered and broken body. Once he recovered, he then proceeded to fight any and all stragglers that the Cradle didn't insta-wipe; and once it vanished and Olivie died he then proceeded to fight anyone who wasn't down for laying down their arms and embracing peace. When the Sankt Kaiser was deified as the Messiah, the Hegemon was swiftly put up as 'The Messiah's Angry Fist'.

BTW checking the wiki. I thought I remember moment of Einhart losing in VIvid, but as far I can glean in wiki, there's no indication that Einhart ever been defeated. In regard to versus Vivio, their first fight end with solid win for Ein and close win on the rematch. This may or may not be true here in this quest and the current time. But that's what the wiki says happened in canon. Food for thought.
She did lose once, it was after losing to Sieglinde; Vivio punched all the angst out via min-maxing the shit out of her mana control to constantly shift between 100% def -> 100% atk at will for maximum damage and tanking. She lost every other fight, though.

Then again this went off canon rails ages ago so lol who knows?

Right, looking at this realistically we are going not win no matter what. Realisitically, the solution to Klaus regret is not attaining supreme power, its would be more along the lines of coping with one's own weakness and/or not bearing burden to protect by oneself.
Consider the following; what if when Nanoha tried to confront Fate in their final showdown that pretty much led to them being friends and getting the later to open up and understand the former, Nanoha actually lost.

Badiy.

Like, got utterly rekt and bodied with Fate barely having a scratch on her. Then, Fate proceeded to go up with the Jewel Seeds back to mommy dearest and Nanoha learned the truth as Precia psycho-broadcasted her using all the seeds while calling out Fate for being an idiot and worthless tool; with everything ending with the Jewel Seeds triggering and wiping out the entire Garden of Time and blanking out Precia and Fate out of oblivion. Nothing else bad happened, and in fact the problem basically resolved itself and everyone was now safe; the good guys won. Shame about the kid, though.

I'm just bringing this up for context.
 
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  • [X] Protect her; look at her, she is soft, delicate, and clearly a scholar first and foremost given how swiftly she's rattling off facts from such illustrious texts. And why wouldn't she? This isn't an era of war, but of peace; there was no reason for her to take up the Kaiser Arts, especially if she wasn't haunted by the past as you were. No...you could not allow anything to stain such purity and innocence; where Klaus had failed, you will succeed. You will keep her safe, and away from the horrors that had consumed Olivie in the past; you will accept nothing less, and will gather all the power and strength you could to do so.
    [X] Cherish her; maybe it was the memories influencing you, maybe Klaus's wistful regrets were stronger than his ambitions, but it ultimately matters not. Maybe it was running from reality, but the happiest moments of your life revolved around the brief moments of joy that your ancestor had with the Sankt Kaiser. Now that the opportunity to repeat those happy days with Olivie has shown itself, you have decided to selfishly indulge yourself in creating your own. Klaus my be spinning in his grave at your foolishness, but damn it all you couldn't resist...you were just too weak...
    [X] Defeat her; it would be...so easy, for you to just fight her and prove that the Hegemon has surpassed the Sankt Kaiser. You have trained and bled every year for such a moment, and she hasn't appeared to even recall what the Kaiser Arts even are. Maybe this will put the past at rest, perhaps this victory will overwrite the defeat of ages long gone, and help to assuage the eternal guilt of your ancestor. Klaus could not surpass Olivie, but you could; you could do so here and now.
 
[X] Cherish her; maybe it was the memories influencing you, maybe Klaus's wistful regrets were stronger than his ambitions, but it ultimately matters not. Maybe it was running from reality, but the happiest moments of your life revolved around the brief moments of joy that your ancestor had with the Sankt Kaiser. Now that the opportunity to repeat those happy days with Olivie has shown itself, you have decided to selfishly indulge yourself in creating your own. Klaus my be spinning in his grave at your foolishness, but damn it all you couldn't resist...you were just too weak...
 
[X] Cherish her; maybe it was the memories influencing you, maybe Klaus's wistful regrets were stronger than his ambitions, but it ultimately matters not. Maybe it was running from reality, but the happiest moments of your life revolved around the brief moments of joy that your ancestor had with the Sankt Kaiser. Now that the opportunity to repeat those happy days with Olivie has shown itself, you have decided to selfishly indulge yourself in creating your own. Klaus my be spinning in his grave at your foolishness, but damn it all you couldn't resist...you were just too weak...
 
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[X] Protect her; look at her, she is soft, delicate, and clearly a scholar first and foremost given how swiftly she's rattling off facts from such illustrious texts. And why wouldn't she? This isn't an era of war, but of peace; there was no reason for her to take up the Kaiser Arts, especially if she wasn't haunted by the past as you were. No...you could not allow anything to stain such purity and innocence; where Klaus had failed, you will succeed. You will keep her safe, and away from the horrors that had consumed Olivie in the past; you will accept nothing less, and will gather all the power and strength you could to do so.

You spent the rest of your free time at school with Vivio, eagerly discussing various topics pertaining to Ancient Belka; you with actual memories from your ancestor, and her from everything she's read up about the era. The more time you spent in her presence; her earnest joy, her eagerness, her delicate yet exuberant demeanor, the more you were certain about what you must do. This Olivie girl was no warrior, she was not one who had suffered and was forced into adversity and pain solely for the sake of others. The more time you spent with her, the more the echoes of the past reverberate in your head; you refuse to allow history to repeat itself.

For the sake of this innocent maiden, you will fight. You will surpass Klaus by doing what he never could; by protecting Vivio and keeping her away from harm, the way he couldn't do for Vivi Olivie.

But...even as you make this vow, you know that you are still lacking in power. You did not possess the ability to keep a constant watch and vigil no matter how hard you tried. As a protector, the honest truth was that you fell short in many regards, and just thinking about it started to fill you with dread. However, you quickly realized that you were forgetting something, something that you had recently acquired that would aid you in your goals...


The moment school ended and you returned to your apartment, you had called your gang and told them to meet you immediately; hardly an hour passed before J, Ford, and the rest of your crew members save for Stern had arrived. You decided to wait a bit longer for Stern, who eventually arrived several minutes afterwards. You give everyone a moment to get acclimated and seated in your apartment, then you clap to get their attention and take the floor.

"Everyone, I have an announcement to make," you proclaimed, "I...have found the Heiliger Kaiser."

You paused to let everyone fully grasp and comprehend what you just said, but are met with only awkward silence. Was...was it because you used the more archaic and technically more proper 'Heiliger' rather than the more modern transliteration of 'Sankt', thus leading to confusion.

It's Ford who spoke up first, awkwardly scratching the back of his head as he spoke, "That...uh, that's great boss. I just, um, I just struggle to see why this was so...important?" His eyes widened and he started fumbling with further explanation, "I mean, not that it's a bad thing or that I'm discouraging you from-er, that is to say..."

J immediately spoke up and interrupted Ford's bumbling, "I assume that you are not, in fact, referring to having spiritually found yourself and religion as Ford has mistakenly assumed; but, rather, you are referring to some else, my lord?"

Oh...in hindsight, you can see how Ford and the other could make that assumption. "That is correct, J. I am in fact referring to having found the Kaiser in person. Physically. While at school, in fact."

You noticed everyone's reactions to what you just said; Ford and his teammates were dumbfounded, J looked excited, and Stern looked...worried? Huh, you didn't expect that reaction of all things from her. Regardless, now that the misunderstanding is out of the way, you continue on with your speech:

"As I was saying, I have found the Heiliger Kaiser; whether it be her descendant, reincarnation, or something else is irrelevant - I know just from meeting her and talking with her that she is the same as my ancestor's recollection of the Kaiser of long ago, the memories of the Hegemon etched into my bloodline would not allow me to make such a mistake, not when it comes to her.

"As such, I now have a new goal; to succeed where my ancestor failed, to do what Klaus G.S. Ingvalt could never do: protect and safeguard the Saint King. To not falter in weakness as he did and allow her to foolishly sacrifice herself; to become a martyr for the masses."

Merely uttering that sentence caused a wave of memories and nostalgic emotions to hit, but you press on. "As such, I will be relying on you to aid me in reaching this goal; for the rampant gangs could pose a possible threat to the Kaiser, and this cannot stand. Will will go forth and strike them all down; obliterating all who come in our path until there is none who can oppose us, oppose me! And in doing so, we will assure that no harm will ever come to the Heiliger Kaiser."

You continue on, impassioned by the speech and hoping to inspire the same in your subordinates. "And we will not stop there! For even if the North is safe, the other sectors are still rampant with strife; so we will venture East, West, South, and into the very heart of Midchilda itself! And as we do we shall unleash the flames of war and the storm of perdition upon them! For the sake of all that we hold dear, for all that we cherish, we will march...we will ride...and we shall vanquish any who stand in our way!

"So answer me, my warriors! Who among you will follow me against the rising tide to overturn fate itself? Who among you sees fit to follow me, the Hegemon, to oblivion and beyond?!"
Your passionate words stirred the hearts of Ford and the rest of his friends, each of them cheering and chanting in unison, "All hail the Hegemon! All hail the Hegemon!"

J, on the other hand, simply clapped in applause and calmly spoke to you, "My lord, I would be honored to put my technical expertise to use in aid of your objectives; both in arming your troops, as well as for surveillance purposes. Just give the word, and I will have the Sankt Kaiser on watch 24/7; you'll know what she had for breakfast, when she's out with friends, even what shampoo she uses. There will be nothing hidden from you..."

At that, Stern finally spoke up, "Isn't that...excessive? It seems rather-"

"Ah, but Stern, don't you remember?" J responded, cutting off Stern, "Why it wasn't even four years ago when that dreadful incident happened across Midchilda; the psychotic madman who rumor says managed to make the Cradle rise in East Midchilda and almost got it fully operational to raze the planet to the ground? If anything, our liege's recent discovery suggests that the rumors are true, and that the girl was in fact the likely key that was used to trigger such an event."

Upon hearing that your pulse raced, your skin paled, and you broke into a cold sweat; immediately, the most common of your memories hit you:
"Flames and bodies surrounding you, yourself broken-

"Your love with barely a scratch on her, heading off into the distance-

"The accursed Cradle taking to the skies, burning away years of her life every second-

"Oblivion, as both vessel and woman are lost, yourself lift with only-

No, you cannot-you will not allow such a thing to happen. Not again. Never again...

[X] Have J create the surveillance system immediately; assist him in whatever way you can, be it in gathering parts or putting together the system itself. Whatever it takes to get it online and to ensure her safety.
[X] You waited long enough; there are threats out there that need to be eliminated, so eliminate them you shall. You shall nothing to pose any possible harm to her.
[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
[X] Write-in​
 
Your passionate words stirred the hearts of Ford and the rest of his friends, each of them cheering and chanting in unison, "All hail the Hegemon! All hail the Hegemon!"

Yay, we have a cult army :V

J, on the other hand, simply clapped in applause and calmly spoke to you, "My lord, I would be honored to put my technical expertise to use in aid of your objectives; both in arming your troops, as well as for surveillance purposes. Just give the word, and I will have the Sankt Kaiser on watch 24/7; you'll know what she had for breakfast, when she's out with friends, even what shampoo she uses. There will be nothing hidden from you..."

It's such a great thing that we picked J as an ally. Imagine if someone who had ulterior motives for stalking watching Vivio got around to recruiting him and invaded her privacy like this

At that, Stern finally spoke up, "Isn't that...excessive? It seems rather-"

Stop being a stick in the mud Stern it's for a good cause

[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.

I wanna Punch The Strong but I feel like Ender will punish us if we do that without training at least a bit more so let's punch Stern until we get stronger and she stops doubting us and then we can go punch the strong.
 
[X] You must get stronger; you are still lacking in power and this must be rectified, confer with your subordinates to being acquiring more power to accomplish your goals, so that what happened to your ancestor will not happen to you.
 
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