[Mafia] Scarlet Hand Finale

showed up to complain about the tie while not doing anything to break it, didn't vote Pawn or give a reason for not doing so
There was 4 minutes left and at least 10 people around. I was mostly trying to remind people to decide already.

Why would I have needed to say anything about Pawn? I was on Nictis for reasons that had been litigated across the entire day and wasn't willing to switch at the last moment ith no new information from my perspective. QT's argument was good, but I didn't think it worth switching over.
 
Why would I have needed to say anything about Pawn? I was on Nictis for reasons that had been litigated across the entire day and wasn't willing to switch at the last moment ith no new information from my perspective. QT's argument was good, but I didn't think it worth switching over.

And if Pawn had come up as Town then that would have been plenty. As it stands, it would serve Scum well to try & avoid the Pawn lynch happening without engaging with the arguments in its favor, as the latter would potentially establish a suspicious degree of connection.

The fact that the alternative lynch you were sticking to was someone we've now confirmed as Town also doesn't make it better.
 
Stuff has come up, I'm probably going to be unavailable for the remainder of the day. There anywhere I should be voting right now?
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Nictis on Feb 16, 2020 at 2:53 PM, finished with 683 posts and 11 votes.
 
Also: Day ends in five hours and we've only seen one new vote since Rosen's flip. The dead scum alone can currently choose who gets lynched. I want to see people either voting or tagging me with a statement of who they plan to vote and why.
 
Sorry, can't really help you with that right now. I haven't done anything today. Existing small scum reads are ItzNarcotic and Wiadi. The former is somewhat a gut read plus a valid defense of UM EoD2, which COULD be interpreted as soft-defending.
The latter is a left-over that I have to check how well it aged.
I'm not sure yet who to vote, only that my vote on meso would be wasted rn.
 
Also: Day ends in five hours and we've only seen one new vote since Rosen's flip. The dead scum alone can currently choose who gets lynched. I want to see people either voting or tagging me with a statement of who they plan to vote and why.
I still think byzantine is the right lynch, but I could see myself going onto Mesonoxian or *maybe* deathvon.
 
Also: Day ends in five hours and we've only seen one new vote since Rosen's flip. The dead scum alone can currently choose who gets lynched. I want to see people either voting or tagging me with a statement of who they plan to vote and why.
New vote was mine for UM. It's basically just low activity combined with doing a few things he should have known better than to do, ala sheeping.

I'm not sure I really like it but we don't seem to have any direction right now since Meso is being held off and people seem to be avoiding Shadell to see how Meso flips.

As I said earlier I think something if off about Wiadi but I'm not trusting that feeling and don't have anything substantial to support it, just some weak stuff from days ago.

Narcotic showing up and going inactive without anything I can really use to make reads is annoying, but understandable.
 
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Adhoc vote count started by Deathvon on Feb 16, 2020 at 3:18 PM, finished with 688 posts and 11 votes.
 
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[x] Lynch Wiadi

For trying to push off the vigging of Rosen without good reason, and likely some past stuff that I can't really go look into right now.
 
I still think a @-Rosen @Byzantine scum team seems likely.

Then today he decided Rosen was scum even though yesterday it was entirely because Nanook and Rosen were connected. Today it's because Rosen decided to vote for him at EoD yesterday.
Here he defends Rosen, trying to throw shade at @Wiadi for voting Rosen day one.
Biggest problem with that is that the Byzantine suspicion came about from the attempted Jester-dodge, which happened after my vote.
And here Rosen returns the favor, dismissing suspicion of Byzantine, when he quickly nulled out a vote so as not to be on record lynching Nanook. The claim was that he thought there was some exploding imp mechanic, but there was no reason to suspect that. But there is plenty of good reason for scum not to want to not be on record lynching town.
Since that would imply that Byzantine is a killer separate from the SK unless the doctor got lucky and I've already stated my opinion there regarding Byzantine. It just doesn't really make sense to me with what is currently known about the situation.
Here is Pawn disrupting momentum against Byzantine day 2.
I believe you are unintentionally doing quite the opposite - by responding you are playing his game, making you more likely to be lynched rather than less. I learned with Nictis the best thing you can do is spell out your argument then walk away.
And here Byzantine attempts to convince others not to engage with @Nictis early scum reads on Rosen and himself.

Byzantine has repeatedly been defended by and defended scum, while trying to undermine scum reads against them.
[X] Lynch Byzantine
 
And here Rosen returns the favor, dismissing suspicion of Byzantine, when he quickly nulled out a vote so as not to be on record lynching Nanook.
Okay, this has to be intentional, because this is the fourth time I've caught you saying this. I was not voting Nanook before I nulled that vote.

I know we decided to wait and all, but come on.

[x] lynch Mesonoxian
 
Alright, I have a funeral attend today - one I was preparing for during the past couple of days - so I probably won't be here by EoD.

Anyone need me at a vote? I know haven't been active at all, but feel free to point me at someone and I'll see if I can do something to contribute to the thread before I have to leave for the rest of the day.

Also, I woul
 
Okay, this has to be intentional, because this is the fourth time I've caught you saying this. I was not voting Nanook before I nulled that vote.

I know we decided to wait and all, but come on.

[x] lynch Mesonoxian
This is the first time you've said anything about it that I've noticed.

But checking back, you're right. You nulled off your previous vote at the last minute, and said you supported the Nanook lynch but refused to vote it. Then, when you were criticized for it, you did sign on, even though that didn't do anything to make the lynch more secure at that point, so it was clearly done for town cred.

So I apologize for the inaccuracy, but I don't think the facts really do much to exonerate you and they don't change the point I was making by quoting it, which is that Rosen expended some capital defending you.
And I've explained that, too. Yeah, if you aren't scum Meso for the love of god stop forgetting conversations within 48 hours.
If I could do that, it wouldn't just improve my mafia game. ;) But the fact that you've offered an explanation doesn't mean it is an accurate explanation. I know there is not much you can do if people don't accept your defense, and that it is frustrating. I just got a dose of that over one of my lynch votes. But it does contribute to my scum read on you.
 
Alright, I have a funeral attend today - one I was preparing for during the past couple of days - so I probably won't be here by EoD.

Anyone need me at a vote? I know haven't been active at all, but feel free to point me at someone and I'll see if I can do something to contribute to the thread before I have to leave for the rest of the day.

Also, I woul
Don't worry about the game if you've got real life stuff to deal with.
 
For trying to push off the vigging of Rosen without good reason

I already explained this one - my reason was that more information is good, and I hadn't considered the risk that Scum could interfere with Souls. Once the latter was pointed out I agreed that it was good to do now.
Okay, this has to be intentional, because this is the fourth time I've caught you saying this. I was not voting Nanook before I nulled that vote.

I know we decided to wait and all, but come on.

[x] lynch Mesonoxian

Technically true, but...
I'm staying off this wagon just out of general suspicion that when someone wants to die this badly after attracting this much negative attention they may have a scheme going.

...yeah, still not really helping your case. And the fact that you responded by attempting to lynch Meso contrary to acknowledged consensus on the matter is also a bad look. Between that, QT's position, and my own lingering suspicions...

[X] Kill Byzantine
 
Okay, so a Meso lynch doesn't seem good to me right now because we'll know their alignment tomorrow, so it probably makes more sense to lynch someone else for more info this cycle? Downsides might be town!meso misfiring i guess? Byzantine is starting to look appealing with what's going on atm.
 
[x] Lynch Byzantine

This is likely not my final vote but i have a headache and might pass out for a bit.
 
Less certain about Wiadi now. Tempted to just not vote today, but... Mmm.

Kinda want to go with an inactive, but also don't really know who would qualify right now.

Almost want to just throw my vote behind QT and be done with it...

[x] Lynch Deathvon

I guess.
 
Okay, so a Meso lynch doesn't seem good to me right now because we'll know their alignment tomorrow, so it probably makes more sense to lynch someone else for more info this cycle? Downsides might be town!meso misfiring i guess? Byzantine is starting to look appealing with what's going on atm.

Yeah, I've wanted to ask about that. My preferred lynch target got asploded. I've been hoping a clear victim would pop up. My second strong read is my current lynch target. My tertiary read was super weak and has just subbed out.
 
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