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Lords of Cymrudonia (CKII GSRP) (8/8)

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Napolean_Barca said:
Interesting. That means I really have to think about what troops I want for the Northshire army.

Might I ask how your gonna implement the tactics system? Will there be percentile rolls or d20 rolls to determine tactics?
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Yep, I'll also be taking into account your traits for the battles. It'll be percentile dice.

Like I said, each trait may have random events appear in the course of the game.

Also, I'm finishing up on the Technology/Buildings doc. Would you guys like to discuss the religion for the game? I'd especially like @Taricus' input on this.
 
Well, I think the best base to start with building the religion is what religion is it based off of to start with, or if it's a totally new thing.
 
Taricus said:
Well, I think the best base to start with building the religion is what religion is it based off of to start with, or if it's a totally new thing.
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I was thinking of basing it off the Greco-Roman pantheon, but adding in a couple of changes.

For example, rather than having a King God (Zeus/Jupiter) the rank of each god would be determined by the worshiper. Some worshipers would demand others to raise the rank of their preferred god, and some others would go to war with worshipers of the same god to curry favor with them (the god).

Of course, we could also base it off the Abrahamic religions, or even go for a more pagan tone.
 
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Fullyautomagic said:
I was thinking of basing it off the Greco-Roman pantheon, but adding in a couple of changes.

For example, rather than having a King God (Zeus/Jupiter) the rank of each god would be determined by the worshiper. Some worshipers would demand others to raise the rank of their preferred god, and some others would go to war with worshipers of the same god to curry favor with them (the god).

Of course, we could also base it off the Abrahamic religions, or even go for a more pagan tone.
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I like that idea. The concept of different players trying to elevate the dominance of their religion could lead to alot of religious tension.

Especially when a new god comes in to try and supplant the established gods.
 
Well, given the virtues are more in line with an abrahamic religion, using a greco-roman panthenon might be a bit awkward if the church looks fondly on chastity and yet the chief god is going around ravishing anything on two legs with some improbable forms.
 
Taricus said:
Well, given the virtues are more in line with an abrahamic religion, using a greco-roman panthenon might be a bit awkward if the church looks fondly on chastity and yet the chief god is going around ravishing anything on two legs with some improbable forms.
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I meant more like having several gods, each with its own domain, not essentially ctrl+c ctrl+v'ing it
 
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Moonlight said:
We worship the god Cardea, Goddess of Hinges
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Honestly, even that could be used as inspiration for a much larger concept. I mean, what constitutes hinges? It could refer to the hinges of fate, or the birth and rebirth of an immortal soul, it could also refer to the sudden swings in mood many people oftentimes experience in times of great stress.
 
We could just have 2 pantheons. One sanctioned and one heretical with the holy gods embodying the virtues and the evil ones taking the place of sins.

We could then choose which one we want to venerate until we either die or get converted.
 
Seems like way too complex for it to be formally organised to the point where it does have bishropics. At the very least it'd need a head god of sorts.
 
Taricus said:
Seems like way too complex for it to be formally organised to the point where it does have bishropics. At the very least it'd need a head god of sorts.
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There could be a head god and everyone still venerates their own. Similar to the Spartans worshipping the Greek pantheon but focusing solely on Ares.

The Bishopric could be the same way. A Bishopric that worships a chaste god or something
 
Taricus said:
I dunno, I feel a god of chastity isn't going to be a popular one for some reason :p
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The gods have been worshipped by the area for a good while now, the change is that a proper church has formed and a majority sub-sect of said church has started to focus on a singular virtue each god holds, along with either a vice the same god holds, or how devils/demons take advantage of the lack of virtue.

That gives the church something of a sub-plot that can shake things up, provides a bit of history for the land, and gives us the virtues and sins while allowing for people to end up 'worshipping' gods or devils/demons. There's also a bit of space for the gods to actually have a portfolio of some substance instead of them just each embodying a virtue, said portfolio does appear to be shrinking however...
 
Troglodyte said:
The gods have been worshipped by the area for a good while now, the change is that a proper church has formed and a majority sub-sect of said church has started to focus on a singular virtue each god holds, along with either a vice the same god holds, or how devils/demons take advantage of the lack of virtue.

That gives the church something of a sub-plot that can shake things up, provides a bit of history for the land, and gives us the virtues and sins while allowing for people to end up 'worshipping' gods or devils/demons. There's also a bit of space for the gods to actually have a portfolio of some substance instead of them just each embodying a virtue, said portfolio does appear to be shrinking however...
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I like that idea. Gives the players major religious differences while at the same time uniting them under a singular church.

Think about it like what would happen if the varying Protestant sects gathered together and all decided to try and work together to form a papal style religion or the differing factions of Catholicism before the great schism deciding to try and coexist with each other.
 
Well, I could definitely see different sects happening, but different gods entirely is pushing it in regards, as there's an entire problem of actually keeping the religion unified and coherent enough to actually expand and maintain authority over all the various bishropics and such. Not that there can't be some syncreticism between the new faith and the old, just means the church is trying to stamp out the heathens at the current time.
 
Taricus said:
Well, I could definitely see different sects happening, but different gods entirely is pushing it in regards, as there's an entire problem of actually keeping the religion unified and coherent enough to actually expand and maintain authority over all the various bishropics and such. Not that there can't be some syncreticism between the new faith and the old, just means the church is trying to stamp out the heathens at the current time.
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What about a sort of god and saint system? There is one main god while the others are either saints or viewed as saints.
 
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That actually works out pretty well with an Artwork pieces I was doing for the gods. Rather than having a Head God and many subordinates, it can just be straight-up a single god and saints who embody the virtues. How does this look so far?



(Left to Right: Saint, God, Saint)
 
Hey while you're here @Fullyautomagic, do ya plan on adding building stuff for cities and temples?

Also, I had some ideas for some filthy Pagan religions. My first thought was maybe to try and insert Native American spirit animal stuff.

The Bear spirit is the god of strength, the hawk the god of foretelling ect.
 
Napolean_Barca said:
Hey while you're here @Fullyautomagic, do ya plan on adding building stuff for cities and temples?

Also, I had some ideas for some filthy Pagan religions. My first thought was maybe to try and insert Native American spirit animal stuff.

The Bear spirit is the god of strength, the hawk the god of foretelling ect.
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I do have plans for the cities and temples, I've actually got most of it finished. However, classes end at 7:35 today. x.x
 
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