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Wiegraf: "So, you've come. Draw your sword, Ramza." [Ramza does not do so.] "Not in the mood? I hope you will not object to me drawing mine."
Ramza: "I pity you, Wiegraf. More than you know. What must Milleuda think, to see you now? You would sell your soul to the Lucavi to slake your thirst for revenge."
Wiegraf: "Revenge? You think that is what drives me? I have no such petty concerns. I do not fight to avenge Milleuda's death. I sow the seeds of chaos in the world of men, and reap the anguished cries of the weak. But worry not, Ramza. Yours is a special case. I shall kill *you* myself!"



Welcome everyone to the "Let's style on Wiegraf" hour, where I'll showcase strategies for this duel.
Now this is not a comprehensive list and it doesn't aim to be one, it's just a collection of strategies I've seen around. This list can work as inspiration if you find yourself stuck.

Let's first check who our opponent of the day is:
Okay, let's talk specific parameters.

Wiegraf is lv 28, and Ramza is also lv 28. So in theory, we are level-appropriate for this encounter. Of course, that's not the full story.

He's tough one! Diamond Helm + Armor is +180HP right here (you can get better, though, and at Orbonne he did have a better helm. What happende to that?), Diamond Shield is about as good as you can buy right now and the Diamond sword is ok; the Diamond Bracelet, meanwhile, gives +1 PA, +1MA and immunity to Slow. Safeguard means that this equipment won't come off, so leave your Rend Helm/Armor/Weapon/Shield at home (OTOH Rend Power works, keep that in mind).
Between the Diamond Bracelet and Boss immunities the only status that work are Blind and Silence; Silence is useless and Blind is not much better. Also, while you can decrease his Bravery, he won't turn into a chicken when Bravery goes lower than 10.
Now of course the main problem is here Holy Sword: Wiegraf will blast you with Hallowed Bolt if given half a chance, to the tune of about 140 damage with neutral compatibility and a 25% Silence chance on top. He only has this one Holy Sword ability, so you don't have to worry about, say, Stop from Judgement Blade or KO from Northswain's Strike. Note that it can critical hit with a normal 5% chance: due to how critical hit works the damage is randomized and goes from normal damage (floor) to a bit less than double (ceiling).
As for Martial Arts, he has Aurablast and Shockwave; those are way weaker than Hallowed Bolt (about 60 damage for Aurablast, 50 for Shockwave on neutral compatibility) and are rarely used; you may see Shockwave if you're out of range for Hallowed Bolt, but that's it. Luckily he hasn't Chakra, so no self-healing.
Counter makes melee a dicey proposition, since with Bravery 71 there's a 71% chance you'll eat a counterattack for about 100 damage, and you have to deal with evasion if you don't attack from the back.
Safeguard is a pain, since it means we can't break or steal Wiegraf's sword to disable Holy Sword, nor any other equipment. Guess Wiegraf learned that being disarmed sucks.
To close the section he has Move +1; this, with the small area, the starting positions and Wiegraf's range make playing keep away difficult.

The objective here is twofold: survive and bring Wiegraf's HP under 20% (it's not necessary to KO him). Let's see how to do it.
  1. The One Punch Man strategy (aka Omi's choice): Just one-shot the guy, he can't hurt you that way. Here's some ways to go about it:
    1. Doublehand with a Sword or a Spear. Best buyables are the Partisan (11 WP) and the Platinum Sword (12 WP), you can get a better spear by this point but it's a pain in the ass. Then equip the Bracer for +3 PA, an on-level Dragoon should one-shot. You can also use Geomancer, Doublehanded Platinum Sword with Headband + Power Garb + Bracer (+7 PA in total) should one-shot if you have at least 14 PA. Hit from the sides or the back if you can, that way C-EV doesn't apply. You could try to use Teleport for the back attack (the "Nothing personnel, kid" special).
    2. Dual Wield. More or less the same as above, but with 2 weapons. Here you have a bit more options, you can use Swords (Platinum Sword is the best), Katanas (Kiyomori) or Ninja Blades (Ninja Longblade). Ninja Ramza with 2 Ninja Longblades, Headband + Power Garb + Bracer should be enough to outspeed and one shot (more like two tap) Wiegraf; you can use Concentrate to ignore Evasion or Attack Boost to secure the kill. As above, side or back attacks are preferred.
    3. Magic. The most realiable way is Holy, have a Japa Mala equipped for the 20% elemental boost and at least 10 MA (Wizard's Robe + Celebrant's Miter is +3 MA, Mage's Staff is another +1MA and Wizard's Rod a +2MA) and Faith around 80. It's about 300 damage with neutral compatibility. Flare also works, use a Magepower Glove (best) or a Diamond Bracelet (acceptable) instead of the Japa Mala in this case. Swiftness is good for faster casting time, Arcane Power is better if you want a sure kill. You could use Firaja/Blizzaja/Thundaja with a Japa Mala, but then you borderline need Swiftness and Flare probably still outdamages. Anyway you will have to contend with the 15% evade from the shield and the fact that Wiegraf has 64 Faith, this makes him slippery against magic. Also you need high Faith, but that's a given for mages in general.
  2. First survive, then attack: you set up a way to not get killed in 1-2 hits, then either power up and oneshot or whittle Wiegraf down slowly. Some ways to do it:
    1. I got money: Wiegraf deals around 140 damage a turn on neutral, 170 on best compatibility. X-Potions heal 150. Auto-Potion will only use X-Potions if you don't have any other potion, and are buyable at this point. Now Auto-Potion has to trigger, but it triggers Bravery% of the times and Ramza can have high permanent Bravery and has Steel to increase it further if needed. From here you can do more or less what you want, just be mindful of Counter and keep an eye on how many X-Potions you have. Easy setup is Chemist Ramza, Auto-Potion, Mettle as secondary; equip any gun (Mythril Gun is the best right now), run away and Tailwind yourself until you double-turn or more Wiegraf, healing as needed if Auto-Potion doesn't trigger. Then shoot him dead, he can't heal and will go down eventually.
    2. Mana Shield, son: when it trigger Mana Shield lets you use your MP as a secondary HP bar; notably any damage in excess of your MP just disappears. This means that as long you have at least 1 MP Mana Shield will absorb any single hit. Manafont lets you recover MP every time you move. The combination means that as long as you move you're invincible (barring Mana Shield not triggering); hit Wiegraf from non-adjacent spaces and he can't even Counter you. You could throw stones at his face while slowly dancing around him until he dies if you really wanted; other ranged options are Shockwave/Aurablast, any straight damage Iaido, guns, bows, bowguns, poles, spears, instruments, dictionaries, Throw, Elemental, Jump (if you can land it before Wiegraf moves), Darkness (though with a Dark Knight Ramza and the grind needed chances are you'll outlevel Wiegraf significantly!) and low-level magic if your MP hold. Again, you can Tailwind until double-turn then switch to Focus; at around 25 PA you can just one-shot Wiegraf and with the Speed you have by that point you can wreck havoc on Belias as well. Or you Tailwind to 50 Speed and Throw a Fuma Shuriken to Wiegraf and a Morning Star to Belias, that's 350 and 800 damage respectively. If Belias still lives Ramza has Speed:Yes and goes again, Throw another Fuma Shuriken and close this fight.
    3. I can't believe this works: Disclaimer: this strategy is based on a bug, so if you want a "fair" fight maybe don't use it. Holy Sword abilities are internally tagged as Holy-elemental, even if they in practice use the sword's element (so usually end up as non-elemental); the AI won't use attacks that your units will absorb. You can just equip Ramza with a Chameleon Robe and Wiegraf won't ever use Hallowed Bolt; you still have to contend with Martial Arts and normal attacks/Counter, so some self-healing is needed but in effect you more than halved Wiegraf's damage per turn. Also note that with this strategy you also reduce Wiegraf's effective range, Shockwave is a line and can be avoided (Winged Boots/Levitate make you immune, if you prefer) and Aurablast is range 3 without AoE, do keeping away is now easier.
    4. Where's your PA gone?: This feels very much like playing with food, but whatever. So, Safeguard means you can't break or steal equipment. Rends though can also reduce stats, and that we can still use. Here we have options: we can go ranged (Archer, Chemist or Mediator with guns, any Job with Equip Crossbows or Equip Guns) for a safer approach, or go risky with Dual Wield to get 2 chances per Rend. Rend Power is -3PA if it hits, so each one reduces Hallowed Bolt damage by 42 for a minimum 14 damage with neutral compatibility. Then go on with Rend Speed so that Wiegraf moves once every 3-4 of your turns. At this point just kill the guy, he's suffered enough. You'll likely need healing for this to work (though Lifefont might be enough) and high PA/Attack Boost helps in landing Rends. Note that any of the strategies above work in buying you enought ime to Rend his PA/Speed to the ground before going for the kill; Rends also work on Belias.
So yeah, there's more than one way to go about this fight. I'm sure there's more strategies, these are just examples. I'm sure someone in this thread will correct me and/or add their own examples.
 
You can actually check which enemies have the "cannot enter water" condition and the game will tell you; about half of the monsters do. All of the Lucavi also have the condition, even if obviously it doesn't matter when there's no water on the battlefield you face them in, such as with Cuchulain.
Something something creatures of evil cannot cross running water something something Dracula.
 
That's all about squeezing as much power out of a single unit as you can, which is not really a challenge the game gave you before that, so you may well be completely unprepared for that (and if you do find yourself unprepared, well, see others talking about softlocks and how, even if you do have saves you can fall back on, you'd have to do the castle gates battle again).
I think the game did kind of give warning that maybe Ramza should be able to hold his own; there are a number of fights that start with Ramza out of position, putting him ahead of the party or off to the side, and at least one instance of isolating him from the rest of the party.

Like, sure, the game doesn't tell you flat out that there's going to be a 1v1 duel, but a number of battles, (as well as the last Gaffgarion fight) kind of hint that maybe you should think about it.
 
It's entirely possible for Rapha to die before you get to move if you don't have enough speed.
yes it is

IIRC I eventually got around it with the "unequipping someone draws the enemy's AI to them" tactic but this is actually the battle in the Riovanes Gauntlet that haunts me.

RIP to every character who died in a Final Fantasy game before but it turns out you can, in fact, just cast Raise if you want it hard enough.
Delita confirmed quitter. RIP Tietra. "Blame yourself or God" turns out to just be his self-recriminating motto.
 
Increasingly, with each crushing defeat, the inevitable conclusion draws closer, until it dawns upon me, terrible and beautiful; this is how Moses must have felt when God told him to go forth and announce the Plagues.

We have to kill Wiegraf in a single hit.

Tank the first Hallowed Bolt. Move up. Hit him hard enough to delete his entire HP bar, meaning he never gets off a Counter.

Win.

<snip>

It's done.


Omicron's epiphany, rendered in song form:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-lroAtSTgU
 
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I do kinda love how the guards in that meeting room look shredded by giant claws. Just cut to ribbons. Great use of the sprites.
Elmdore being a Sephiroth analogue, some manner of bloodthirstiness,
He rolls around with a pair of assassins that look like this:

What could his sin possibly be...?

For being basically Elmdore's version of The Blorbos, though, Celia and Lettie got hands. Omi kind of breezed through, but those guys were kicking my ass (because I was trying to steal one of the samurai swords Celia and Elmdore were rocking). Yes, they're dual wielding swords that do 100 damage a swing, but they can also cast Break, instantly petrifying a character at range, or freakin' Ultima.
 
Elmdore being a Sephiroth analogue
Honestly this is really funny, at first I assumed that was mostly a joke and the parallels were limited to "war hero" and "silver hair," but it's not just silver hair, he literally has the same bangs as Sephiroth:



And now with the last update, we've found out that:
1) He is believed to have died at war by the general public, but is in fact still alive
2) While he enjoys great popularity, he actually bears a dark secret and evil intent
3) He is connected with an evil from outside the world
4) He is actively looking for important magic stones
5) His weapon of choice is the katana.

It's comprehensive!
 
So much happened in this update that I completely forgot about Isilud!

Goodbye, One Good Man In The Conspiracy (that also practiced kidnapping, so whatever). It was a heck of a send-off for someone we'd only known for like an hour. Your character class was lame, but your heart was redeemable (for a free slurpee) in the end.

 
Honestly this is really funny, at first I assumed that was mostly a joke and the parallels were limited to "war hero" and "silver hair," but it's not just silver hair, he literally has the same bangs as Sephiroth:

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And now with the last update, we've found out that:
1) He is believed to have died at war by the general public, but is in fact still alive
2) While he enjoys great popularity, he actually bears a dark secret and evil intent
3) He is connected with an evil from outside the world
4) He is actively looking for important magic stones
5) His weapon of choice is the katana.

It's comprehensive!

Anyway, you know the drill. We run around doing random battles and some errands until we're ready, none of it very notable except for that one time our quest reward was the stone of the apocalypse with the power to end the world.
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Why is the black goddamned materia an errand for arresting a famous thief? Who knows. Nobody in the group would know how to use it, anyway, so it's probably safe with us.

distant Latin chanting gets louder

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*linkpearl chime*

"Hester? It's Osric, don't talk. I need you to take that black stone we found last month, get to a port, and launch that thing as far into the ocean as you can make it. Use one of those old chocobo cannons if you can find one; force-feed it to a whale if you have to, but get that thing off this continent. I'll fill you in later. Go."
 
Yeah, Elmdor would need to do a lot of work to take the "most memorable villain" spot for FFT from Weigraf. Being a Sephirot clone isn't enough to beat that kind of record without some more solid showing... then again, there's a good deal of game left still.
 
I was waiting to see how you would handle Wiegraf, this fight is one that I didn't actually have any problems with on my first playthrough.
But only my first playthrough, after that he kicked my teeth in more times than I care to count.

I'd lucked out with my set up and Wiegraf couldn't actually do any damage, Manafont and Manashield on my Squire-Mystic Ramza let me more or less act with impunity.

Rapha on the other hand decided to choose death for at least four attempts straight.
 
Lots of sidequests are opening up, IIRC, including new recruitable characters.

And you've got two more characters to join the party as part of the main story.
 
There's something very sad about how Wiefgraf sells his soul, his flesh, everything he has and he laid it on the table "Now grant me vengeance!" and then...

It's not that he didn't get his vengeance and even with the power of Lucavi he's just one more corpse in Ramza's wake, it's that he made the deal and even if one of the timelines where he carved through Ramza like a cake was the true one he still wouldn't have gotten the catharsis, the satisfaction, all the things he wanted so badly he was willing to sell his soul for.

Sure, he confronts Ramza in a one on one duel but it's with an air that he remembers he should be doing this, that it was important to him at one time, but now he's just going through some motions because he can vaguely recall that at one point he wanted to do it this way.

Argath and Gaffgarion hurled threats and justifications and whole soliloquies while they fought Ramza, Wiefgraf has as much history with Our Hero as both of them and he grumbles about true power and worthless mortals, he could be any Generic Demonhost and it wouldn't change much.

And to be clear I don't think this is bad writing, I think it's intentional, to show just what it means when you tell the Devil(s) "I'll give up EVERYTHING for what I want."
 
With Wiegraf's death, this actually marks the end of Ramza's personal antagonists right? Argath tackles his conflict as a half-blood noble born (he chose to walk away), Gaffgarion tackles his personal resolve as a wandering swordsman (he aims to help those that need it, not pledging/selling his sword to a lord), and Wiegraf is Ramza finally putting his past to rest.

Chapter 4 is Ramza is paving his own future through tackling the final overarching conflict- the civil war itself, via tracking down the Lucavi. He can't fight armies sure, but he can kill a couple demons.
 
With Wiegraf's death, this actually marks the end of Ramza's personal antagonists right?
I dunno, I think he may have unfinished business with his brothers both on a prosaic and a character-arc level. Like yeah he walked away from the expectations of nobility in general but I don't think he's done with his family members, specifically, or he would have shrugged Alma off instead of trying to rescue her twice.
 
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With Wiegraf's death, this actually marks the end of Ramza's personal antagonists right? Argath tackles his conflict as a half-blood noble born (he chose to walk away), Gaffgarion tackles his personal resolve as a wandering swordsman (he aims to help those that need it, not pledging/selling his sword to a lord), and Wiegraf is Ramza finally putting his past to rest.

Chapter 4 is Ramza is paving his own future through tackling the final overarching conflict- the civil war itself, via tracking down the Lucavi. He can't fight armies sure, but he can kill a couple demons.

I submit there exists one Mr. Delita Heiral still out there somewhere :D
 
I submit there exists one Mr. Delita Heiral still out there somewhere :D
I think between the two of them, the relationship seems quite amicable, if a bit cold. I mean, when one is currently courting a Princess while the other is a heretic.... 👀

I dunno, I think he may have unfinished business with his brothers both on a prosaic and a character-arc level. Like yeah he walked away from the expectations of nobility in general but I don't think he's done with his family members, specifically, or he would have shrugged Alma off instead of trying to rescue her twice.
Alma is his actual full-blooded sister. They have the same set of parents, instead of just sharing the same dad with Zalbaag & Dycedarg.

For his brothers, well, Ramza can't exactly return to Eagrose without a very good reason. Zalbaag already disowned him, while
Dycegard doesn't give a shit. Maybe later in the civil war he will find reason to return, but his heresy charge won't let him rejoin as part of the family anymore. His Beoulve chapter is closed once the Church labeled him a heretic.

Which, now that I think about it, Ramza's heresy charge is one of the most mundane 'reason why JRPG protag can't return to their old life anymore'. Usually, there's some sort of magical reason why they can't- trapped in different time/space or become a god or have their hometown destroyed.

Ramza simply got labeled a heretic, and then was disowned. There you go, no home anymore.
 
Honestly this is really funny, at first I assumed that was mostly a joke and the parallels were limited to "war hero" and "silver hair," but it's not just silver hair, he literally has the same bangs as Sephiroth:



And now with the last update, we've found out that:
1) He is believed to have died at war by the general public, but is in fact still alive
2) While he enjoys great popularity, he actually bears a dark secret and evil intent
3) He is connected with an evil from outside the world
4) He is actively looking for important magic stones
5) His weapon of choice is the katana.

It's comprehensive!

This leads me to have additional concerns in re: Alma.
 
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Given Mustadio's talk of how some machines reacted to the Stone he'd had, we know there's SOME non-demon-summoning use for the things. We don't know how far that goes, but a True Resurrection when wished for genuinely by someone of pure intent isn't the most outlandish possibility.

Marach's words: A voice called to me in that land of pure white light, though whose it was I cannot say. "Return," it said to me. "Return to the side of the valiant - the one whose heart beats true." - also suggest whomever is 'up there', they're in Ramza's corner. Since the only people that seem to be a case of 'the valiant' are his sister or Ramza, and his sister... isn't all that valiant, in action or in game mechanics, but Ramza is the very image of his legendarily heroic father...

I mean, makes ya think, right? Maybe our heretic really does have the power of god and anime on his side.
 
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