Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
- Start date
- Let's Play
JoJa
So close to awesome, but only a bootleg
I wonder if no one simply thought of this, yet...
Once the battle at the executiongrounds is over, you can choose any node past Lionel Castle, and walk over it, not activating the event.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
Is that
New to WotL? Because I remember PSX absolutely forced you to battle the instant you touched Lionel Castle
JoJa
So close to awesome, but only a bootleg
Given the possibility...
I played more of WotL than the og, so it's very likely. My memories of the original are kinda shoddy.
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
man arazlam guess you don't know how Ramza did it so you assumed asspull, bad historian.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"Based on testimony recorded in the hidden papers weeks to months later, it was around this point that Ramza determined his enemies' plan."
"He didn't remember exactly when he had figured it out when the primary source spoke to him?"
"It was a hectic time for him, cut him some slack! Now where around this point can I squeeze that realization in least awkwardly..."
- Location
- The Great Beyond
- Pronouns
- He/She/They
honestly treating all overly weird moments as a product of historian effort and/or overt fanficcing is surprisingly funny to do to Tactics.
- Location
- Malaysia
I genuinely thought that Ramza picking up the 'Zodiac Braves' plan is because Delacroix mentioned the Stone suddenly, and he assumed the Church planning to take over via reenacting the Zodiac Braves story- amusingly, we don't even know if the stone is even an actual magical stone or not at this time.
Sure the masses would like a figure of strength to rally the kingdom around, but old religious stories aren't exactly it tho. Then again, I was a kid back then.
@Omicron the CGI on Warjilis previously had the sprite cutscene with Delita in his full gold regalia actually, not even a cloak on top. The CGI added the cloak.
So the chatter on certain Church factions seeking the Zodiac stones actually reached his ears huh? Delita really was trained as Ramza's intelligence officer back in Gariland and it showed even now. Difference here is he fancied himself Ovelia's saviour for some reason, ironically making himself exactly the same as everyone else seeking to use the Atkascha lineage for their own purposes. He just thought he's more special because he's not nobility.
Sure the masses would like a figure of strength to rally the kingdom around, but old religious stories aren't exactly it tho. Then again, I was a kid back then.
@Omicron the CGI on Warjilis previously had the sprite cutscene with Delita in his full gold regalia actually, not even a cloak on top. The CGI added the cloak.
So the chatter on certain Church factions seeking the Zodiac stones actually reached his ears huh? Delita really was trained as Ramza's intelligence officer back in Gariland and it showed even now. Difference here is he fancied himself Ovelia's saviour for some reason, ironically making himself exactly the same as everyone else seeking to use the Atkascha lineage for their own purposes. He just thought he's more special because he's not nobility.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Mustadio's tricky. I love him, but I'd never want to use him with anything but the earth-shaking range of the Gun.
Unless you're playing with the 2.5 mod, in which case he can always equip guns! Huzzah. I ended up making him an Orator and he became my Bravery/Faith Guy, but having to get him there without guns in the base game sounds awful.
The stones have some mysterious power. The cardinal wants the stones. Maybe that's to summon the Braves (???), maybe that's to make his own Braves, maybe that's to stir the faith of the people with the legend come again in a bid to make some kind of Faith Militant uprising to allow the Church to stand up to the two Lions... Ramza wouldn't know, but he knows it's probably bad, because that guy's a tool. Time to go spoke his wheel.
Unless you're playing with the 2.5 mod, in which case he can always equip guns! Huzzah. I ended up making him an Orator and he became my Bravery/Faith Guy, but having to get him there without guns in the base game sounds awful.
I feel like it would make more sense if Ramza kept things vaguer to cover multiple bases.Omicron said:
The stones have some mysterious power. The cardinal wants the stones. Maybe that's to summon the Braves (???), maybe that's to make his own Braves, maybe that's to stir the faith of the people with the legend come again in a bid to make some kind of Faith Militant uprising to allow the Church to stand up to the two Lions... Ramza wouldn't know, but he knows it's probably bad, because that guy's a tool. Time to go spoke his wheel.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Samurai has a great skill set to use that stays useful throughout the game, but the actual Samurai class's stat mods actually hurt its skill set.
As has been mentioned Iaido utilizes the magic stat to get results. Fortunately faith doesn't factor into it I believe.
Iaido works better as a secondary skill set for a more magical or all-rounder jobs. Geomancers, mages and Ramza's squire class all tend to perform well with it.
As has been mentioned Iaido utilizes the magic stat to get results. Fortunately faith doesn't factor into it I believe.
Iaido works better as a secondary skill set for a more magical or all-rounder jobs. Geomancers, mages and Ramza's squire class all tend to perform well with it.
Guile
Having a really great time right now
Someday, perhaps. Although Summoning never really goes out of style, and my Samurai and Ninja heroically dragged my ass across the finish line of Chapter 2.
Omi didn't say he knows what it was, he said he couldn't describe it.It's one of the many different death rattles that gets played when people die. You've had your people get KOd often enough I'm surprised you didn't recognize it
It's like a death scream echoing through one of those tin-can-on-a-string phones.
I mean... he did eventually! Yes, this involved Mustadio literally walking back to Goug and into his arms. But he did capture Mustadio eventually.
Wait, is that-?
- Location
- Malaysia
I dislike any battles that happened in this area, random or plot-related.
Aside from the Warjilis/Goug/Lionel bottleneck, you get wildly different terrains in each node, along with their associated local monsters.
I hate Balias Tor the most though. Even Tchigolith is better than that hill despite the poison swamp.
Aside from the Warjilis/Goug/Lionel bottleneck, you get wildly different terrains in each node, along with their associated local monsters.
I hate Balias Tor the most though. Even Tchigolith is better than that hill despite the poison swamp.
cB557
voOOP
Shot in the dark, would you call it a splortch.wav?
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
- Pronouns
- They/them
As I had hoped and anticipated, Goug is where we can buy Guns such as Mustadio's, which immediately makes Orator a lot more appealing as a class. They can equip guns natively, which is pretty nice!
Wait sorry back up what-
The third is that we have achieved total ranged dominance.
Back to Mystic, now equipped with a gun, Gillian is able to hit pretty much the entire map from a single position.
Gillian: "I may not look it but I was captain of the Debate Team in school, we won regionals."
Ramza: "What region?"
Gillian: "Texas."
ngl I kind of assumed Ramza thought about the one and only time he spoke with the Cardinal and went "hey wait a second why did he tell us the story of the Zodiac Braves in excruciating detail has he been looking that up recently". It doesn't exactly play out from like, a strictly logical story perspective but simply skimming the update I didn't have a problem believing that Ramza jumped to that conclusion instead of one of the more grounded, politically deft options.
- Location
- Te Ika-a-Māui
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I choose to believe that Ivalice has a "king under the mountain" style story about the Zodiac Braves returning.
Wiadi
Uncompromising Radical Leftist
- Location
- Something Clever
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I mean, it sounds like that's basically just text:
Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
I mean, it almost worked for the Einzberns.
- Pronouns
- She/They
I just had a thought here, could Gaffgarion be using a title in excess of Delacroix's station as a bit of a subtle dig? Almost as a bit of a "I know you're a Cardinal, you know you're a Cardinal, but we both know that you're acting with an ambition and authority far beyond your station here."
I might be reading into it too much, but I kind of like the idea of Gaffy being not just smart enough to navigate the whims of the great and powerful of the realm, but also smart enough to know how to needle the great and powerful in ways that would be beneath them to call out. It takes both an understanding of what insults you can slide in and when, and also a knowledge of exactly how skilled and important he is for their plans to make disposing of him for impertinence not worth the effort.
Given what we've seen of him, I do think there's a heck of a keen mind in there to allow a gruff mercenary commander guilty of a whole bunch of war crimes to stand in the same rooms as nobility and clergy alike. Really the only mistake he's making here is allowing his team to get within range of the delivery team for the Hadrian orbital mass driver.
Thozmp
Gets my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
Given the way it's said, I kind of assume that the Zodiac Braves is more then just "In our hour of greatest need" but that they are more reoccurring heroes. Like that they are mentioned several times in differing eras meaning that there would be some sort of basis for the church plan of "Look, we got the Zodiac Braves on our side!"
So, I'm gonna ask @Omicron to please list the Katanas/Iaido skills that are being used, because guess what? They have chants too! I'm guessing you are using Asura?
Asura: "Legendary sword that kills freely! Asura!"
Thundara/Bolt 2: "Swirling bolts, gather and strike with power! Bolt2!"
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And here you thought I was just speaking about getting to see Agrias as a guest when I said "have Sword skills on your side!" No, it turns out you just get to have a walking sword-cannon, as a treat.... and if you've been grinding like Omi, Agrias vs. your generic blorbos is a question you actually have to think about!
On the other hand, hey, you can have Agrias and an Orbital Kill Dragoon. Frankly, I usually use Mustadio too because 'ranged disables + ranged Petrify Undead' is a pretty handy skill set, and this is about the time I'd like to have a Chemist in the party to start buying some of the higher-tier item abilities (both on the Chemist and others via spillover JP), so once you have Mustadio's staggeringly lengthy list of three base skills, it's an easy switch to make. To be fair, Mustadio still gets cycled in/out for other characters whereas Agrias pretty much never leaves my main party unless it's a random encounter.
On the other hand, hey, you can have Agrias and an Orbital Kill Dragoon. Frankly, I usually use Mustadio too because 'ranged disables + ranged Petrify Undead' is a pretty handy skill set, and this is about the time I'd like to have a Chemist in the party to start buying some of the higher-tier item abilities (both on the Chemist and others via spillover JP), so once you have Mustadio's staggeringly lengthy list of three base skills, it's an easy switch to make. To be fair, Mustadio still gets cycled in/out for other characters whereas Agrias pretty much never leaves my main party unless it's a random encounter.
- Location
- USA
The Japanese line here is まだ大地が今の形を成していなかった時代, which means "an era before the land had assumed its current form." It's a little flowery and makes me think that the story is claiming that the events took place on the Ivalice equivalent of Pangaea before it broke into smaller continents.
EDITED TO ADD: "its current form" may also be read metaphorically as opposed to literally--in other words, ancient borders/nations are not the same as present ones--if you want to square Ovelia's version of the story with the tavernmaster's.
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Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
Yes, that can be done in the PSX version as well. You just need to move directly past the spot, and it will carry you past it.
FourthWall
Love & Destroy
- Location
- Chiraq
Almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades
