ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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- They/them
Sounds like exactly the kind of excuse someone who would miss a Ribbon would make...
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
- Start date
- Let's Play
Sounds like exactly the kind of excuse someone who would miss a Ribbon would make...
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
Just a shade off "toil, family, fatherland," innit?
- Location
- Phoenix
Yeah, but you can raise it just by taking more tests, and iirc, there's nothing stopping you from just running tests to keep your rank up. FF8 is built so that you need to abuse the systems or you can easily end up soft-locking yourself and ruining your playthrough.
21stCentury
Let's get down to bismuth
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- They/Them
If you're willing to extend from "homosexuality" to "Queerness" in general...
There's Faris from FFV who is some flavor of genderqueer and there's Terra whose whole arc is coming to terms with her own asexuality.
Hey! Persona 3 also had a teacher horny for her student (and saying something along the lines of "his parents are dead... I'll comfort him!" Jesus wept)!
I do like the sinister vibe of French version better*, but judging by other comments, it appears the English translation is closer to the original. Which is to say, the sinister vibes were not intended, and so likely would not see a follow-up (unless, like, the revelation that the whole thing is some kind of Hell civil war is meant as a twist halfway through the game, and the French translation just incorporated future knowledge into exposition or something), so it would probably set you up for a disappointment, even if it could make for interesting speculation on your part.
Also consider that if you go with the French version, you'd have to translate everything for us, you won't be able to rely on screenshot or even just transcribe any text. If there are any more puns or otherwise peculiar wording, well, it would be up to you to convey it.
*Diabolical entities granting you power, foul necromancers passing their vile sorcery through generations, dystopian school... That's all pretty metal.
French FFVIII, apparently.
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I had kind of glazed over that you went to the French version on Steam until rereading. So how much you like quick saves and whether or not you want to mod steam to escape the midi music are also practical factors.
- Pronouns
- He
Did you try the nasty little hard things you buy in bags or the much larger soft ones? Because one of those is disgusting and I rarely see the other kind.
What about non-binary, genderless or plural-bodied GFs?
Petition to rename "Guardian Force" to "Sentinel Omen", or just SO for short.
Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
- Location
- Devon
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I mean, using brazier as a word for a bra is flat-out just incorrect regardless of location; you'll note that even your link simply sensibly reads 'brazier for woman' and understands that you mean brassiere, as can be seen by all of the names of the products being 'bra' or 'brassiere', and none of them being 'brazier'. Brazier does not and has never meant anything but a container for fire, except when people misspell brassiere; I suspect it's a common enough misspelling/spellcheck mix up that most places that sell bras will substitute in the correct word (brassiere) when you mistakenly type in 'brazier'.
To keep this post vaguely on topic, it's fascinating to see how different the French version of the script is to the English; I assume in this case it was an individual translation from Japanese, for the French, given the large differences we've already seen, as opposed to the Japanese to English to French that other games have had?
Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
- Location
- Italy
Yeah, Final Fantasy VIII is when Square opened their European office and began to import their games to us, and so they set up a "proper" translation office. All the European adaptations were translated directly from the original Japanese text.
This didn't stop the French translation from being notably very different from any of the others, in fact it's probably the cause of it. From what I know of the various translations, and having played the full game in both English and Italian, I'm partial to/biased for the one in my own language, but I've heard good things of the German one as well (then again, I live in Germany, so that might be the bias of the people I've talked with who only experienced that one). There is also a Spanish translation, which I don't know anything about other than one very specific, minor factoid.
So... if you expected the fact that they had a team translating the game in an appropriate amount of time to solve the translation issues that plagued FFVI and FFVII, think again; having multiple languages to translate into managed to overcome that progress and make things worse.
This didn't stop the French translation from being notably very different from any of the others, in fact it's probably the cause of it. From what I know of the various translations, and having played the full game in both English and Italian, I'm partial to/biased for the one in my own language, but I've heard good things of the German one as well (then again, I live in Germany, so that might be the bias of the people I've talked with who only experienced that one). There is also a Spanish translation, which I don't know anything about other than one very specific, minor factoid.
So... if you expected the fact that they had a team translating the game in an appropriate amount of time to solve the translation issues that plagued FFVI and FFVII, think again; having multiple languages to translate into managed to overcome that progress and make things worse.
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deadcrystal
Slaaneshi Cultist
- Location
- The Warp
FF8 does have some fantastic cutscenes, with great atmosphere and character, helped by the soundtrack, complete with fake latin chanting on occasion.
It's interesting from a character note though. Character comes across great in that cutscene, and in this case it's definitely not an honor thing. We can see Seifer being somewhat smug and dickish about getting one over on Squall, and crucially Squall getting pissed about it. Given how disaffected he generally tries to act, it's notable to see this flare of emotion.
A lot of people miss the computer, which naturally leads to people venturing out into the wild with nothing but Attack. You missed out on the rite of passage of FF8 players of doing this and then running into the training center.
I assume that should be 'graduate' rather than 'released' as they are clearly still members of the Garden under this set-up. The Garden hires out SeeDs as mercenaries for an unknown amount of money to governments and independent groups, and pays its SeeDs a salary for their work.
I'd note that there are some abilities that only become visible once the GF reaches a certain level as well, so you can't see their full list at the moment.
I can confirm that the roads are completely safe, even if actually sticking to walking on them alone can be awkward with the controls, and even one step to the side is not safe.
From a world perspective it's notable that this is dependent on the characters having access to GFs, which going by FF history its reasonable to assume aren't terribly common. So SeeDs produced by Gardens should form elite mercenary groups, not fodder for the grinder.
Squall wants to be professional, thinks every one around him is immature, and has a gunblade for a weapon. Teenage me did not have a chance to resist this, even if I now can see how mockable it all is. Still cool though.
Plus, hey, FF14's FF8 reference bit has Squall as a goth chick, so y'know, good for her.
Whilst you're not wrong that there's a reward for this, it doesn't work like you'd think. In this case the logic is 'judgement' i.e. correctly judging the situation. It doesn't matter which one you pick in the slightest, what matters is the time remaining on the clock when you finish, the less time the better. You might think being faster proves you're better, but in the eyes of the faculty that just means you misjudged the situation.
It's not a big deal ultimately, and not explained anywhere. This won't be the last time you're given a 'reward' based on your performance, but the others are at least more logical.
And in so doing you have locked yourself into one cutscene, and locked yourself out of another, quite a lot further into the game.
This is not indicated anywhere, you have no way of predicting this, or even telling this has happened except doing a separate playthrough and noticing the difference.
With this being a military academy to train mercenaries that work to make the Garden money, with that starting age I have to question how they recruit children for it. Fairly sure you can indeed see some kids walking around the Garden at several points.
I think the English is more accurate, but the French is at least a semi-valid read of the material, with different choices. So it's interesting to see.
- Location
- England, unfortunately.
- Pronouns
- She/They
First time playing through, and I'm glad to say I didn't!
...if only because my tendency to be convinced that the devs put hidden items and stuff everywhere meant I ended up going back into my seat, then saw the lore stuff and decided to read.
Clearly the Gardens are the true realisation of Big Boss' vision.
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So Donald Duck. . .
God I wish I could delete my own brain right now
Well, you see, with all those mercenaries running around, there are quite a few orphans across the world, mostly from places that can't afford mercenaries while their enemies can. And if a benevolent government-approved institution wants to take them under its wing, it just works out swell for everyone, right?
- Location
- Brittany, France
- Pronouns
- He/Him
What's interesting to me here is that FF8 came out the same year as... The Phantom Menace, the movie which established that the Jedi were an order of warrior-monks who grew their ranks by buying young children with the right psychic gifts to train them and then have them 'graduate' to jedihood as adult but still remain in lifelong service to the order, being dispatched across the galaxy to fight for righteous causes or protect civilians without expectation of personal profit.
The comparison quickly breaks down beyond that, but both those works came out the same year (FF8 before TPM) and couldn't have influenced one another in production, so I find myself wondering what was in the water in the '97s-99s production cycle.
FFVIII was released after Xenogears and shortly before Valkyrie Profile which are whole games with that mechanic for every character, in slightly different way (VP appears simpler, but is more tactical in that you should take into consideration the team combos to maximize experience or money, xenogears is just crazy where you discover combos or wait to level enough to get them for free iirc). FFVIII was the conservative game of the square love affair with hybrid QuickTime combat mechanics.
It gets much much much worse later when the ATB combat system gets replaced by real time. I finished final fantasy type zero, but I did suffer, and just seeing Kingdom Hearts gameplay always cures me of the temptation to play it with a kickflip (metaphorical).
Games like 3rd birthday, besides being travesties, also shook up that formula a little. One thing you can never accuse square of is not trying different things. Although they're not that radical, I've seen RPGs which are much more daring systemwise.
Growlanser IV for instance reminded me a lot of baldurs gate of all things. Specifically, its real time with pause and fighter block system and spell system with delays that can be interrupted, is a very neat implementation of the same style of game with a controller. The surprising part being that it's completely possible to do a game like that without a mouse in a console.
Gungnir also impressed me because it shook up the turn based initiative order idea by allowing the player to interrupt the turn of enemies at a cost (don't remember the cost) and many other systems I didnt have a single clue about the first time I played it (the tutorial is really really bad).
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- Location
- Italy
Also, about the fire cave: if I'm not completely idiotic, the reward at the end does not actually get better by choosing less time to complete the cave, but by actually beating Ifrit with as little time remaining.
Technically, choosing 40 mins and then just lazing around for 35 of them is the same as choosing 10 mins.
Again, if I'm wrong Omi you can choke me with that Ribbon 🎀 you have lying about.
Technically, choosing 40 mins and then just lazing around for 35 of them is the same as choosing 10 mins.
Again, if I'm wrong Omi you can choke me with that Ribbon 🎀 you have lying about.
Connelly
As useless as a penguin with mittens
- Location
- Salamanca, Spain
Actually, not quite. The repeating line, "Fithos Lusec Wecos Vinosec", is an anagram of "Love" and "Succession of Witches". The rest is legit Latin, if not with the best grammar.
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When the Boss told him he was taking him to the "Garden", Chico thought they had raised a literal ass boring garden platform at Mother Base.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
- Location
- Bright lights, big city
- Pronouns
- He/Him
"Sir, this soldier is just sitting downtown playing children's card games for weeks at a time, collecting his hourly paycheck without doing any of his assigned tasks. Maybe we should demote him or something until he shapes up?"
"Nonsense! He keeps passing his written exams with flying colors, maintain his top level salary!"
Thozmp
Gets my kicks above the waistline, Sunshine.
In that case, when you have time, might I recommend the Shadow Hearts series from the PS2 era? The games has in-game bestiaries for the horrifying enemies you encounter, like the the snake that ate a pregnant woman and became an undying amalgamation of agony (and this is a random encounter enemy).
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But, but, but number go up.
Number go up makes monkey brain feel good.
- Location
- Lake Wobegon
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
"Also, report to Instructor Trepe for remedial courses in how playing children's card games is vital SeeD activity, the key to perpetual motion, time travel, and otherwise breaking open the universe."
ApocalypticFish
Been reflecting lately.
You're thinking of Wild Arms 3 there. 2 was for the PS1 and still had the characters all in a line rather than moving around.