Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Playing: Final Fantasy IX]

All I'm getting from this Advent Children discussion is that we should really get at least one post of just "Omi watches Advent Children now with the context of having played FFVII and also with an adult mind that doesn't just go 'wow cool Sephiroths wow cool Bahamuts'". Doesn't need to be some in-depth analysis or anything, but could be a fun bit of discussion,
 
I watched Advent Children and was like "well that was two hours of nonsense spectacle" and then the DVD immediately started playing like some interview with the production staff and I remember one of the writers being like "it is about Cloud seeking forgivance" and I thought to myself "for what? Not handling his terminal magic cancer diagnosis with perfect grace?"
 
"Boss, I need to fix the last version before shipping. I accidentally set the entire sound system to play in MIDI, and worse yet, I might have set One Winged Angel to require a Sound Blaster card!"
"Does that sound like *mydi* problem? Eh, eh, EH!?"
"B-boss, I'm not kidding, it's such an easy fix, barely minutes, you just gotta give me-"
*claxon sounds*
"Ooops, shame, I pushed the button to start shipping. Ya heard the sound blast~?"
"... how did you dumbass even get promoted anyway?"
"I don't care about games or art. I was hired straight from business school."
"That tracks."
 
*heavy sigh*

This is gonna be another one of those "Omi takes incredible pains dealing with the enemy at face value only to learn later that it qualifies as undead and so would die instantly to a Phoenix Down," isn't it.

Pain is the best teacher.



Phoenix Downs have a miss rate, but X-Potions, Full Cure, and White Wind are all guaranteed one-shots.

EDIT: The battle square version has enhanced HP so X-Pots and FC might cap out at 9999 without killing it? White Wind is a guaranteed Petrify, though.


Although... I don't think Omi actually ever learned White Wind -- it's still available, but if you don't get a pointer to it I don't think you'd ever know it existed unless you were someone that tried hitting every enemy you came across with Manipulate, Steal, and Morph in order to see what happened.

But I do know he picked up L4 Suicide and the Ghost Ship is vulnerable to that, which means it can be reliably two-shot.
 
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This is the same ecoterrorist after two years of constant exposure to Big Oil Money and concentrated hydrocarbons:



JUST SAY NO

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Someone was blind as a rat on barbiturates during "let's redesign character #7 for the new adaptation" because holy shit.
 
I think it's worth pointing out that the first Kingdom Hearts' designs have nothing to do with Advent Children - they are very obviously based on the original FFVII, with the exception that Cloud has borrowed Vincent's clothes and attitude. And that is only because Nomura had initially planned to have Cloud in Twilight Town and Vincent at the Colosseum before somebody told him "try to include characters from Final Fantasy other than seven", to which he responded by swapping Vincent with Cloud and then giving Cloud's role to Squall when, given the characterization, it would have made ten time more sense to have Squall the one the group met at the Colosseum - and then swap the end scene where Cloud meet Aerith with a scene of Squall meeting Rinoa.

...why am I talking about Kingdom Hearts again? Whatever. Advent Children provides interesting redesigns, but of them all, I only really like Cloud because, as Omicron mentioned much earlier in the thread, his sword there is more fitting to his design, being based upon the Buster Sword but having appropriate improvements to make it fit as an ultimate version thereof. All of the others I could take or leave.
 
The benefit of watching Advent Children as a teenager who had no idea about FF7 was that I didn't have any opinions on any of that, like sure the plot made absolutely no sense to me but it didn't disappoint me in any way so I was just getting my tiny mind blown away by the CGI and would spend the next several years watching Advent Children AMVs set to Nightwish songs.

Of course today, post-Remake, whenever I see a clip of it it's like... Why are these characters so dripless. Why does Barret look like that.
Advent Children Barret: Goofy buffoon, only in the movie for five minutes, sold out to big oil, dripless, completely forgot how to fight, doesn't even get to use one of his LBs
Remake Barret: The size and dimensions of a fridge and ripped as shit, Gaia's #1 dad, a charismatic leader who always has a speech prepared, also the most beautiful man you've ever seen when he's not wearing his shades

The powergap is tremendous.
 
Which is why I keep thinking the FF7 crew watched Evangelion while working on the game. The only way they could have come up with this during production was either they had sneak peeks of the anime before it aired, or changed their plot halfway through production after the show appeared.

That, or someone was a buddy of Hideaki Anno and got him drunk to ply the story idea out of him.

To expand on this point: Evangelion aired between October 1995 and March 1996, ending just after Final Fantasy VII was initially announced to the public. While FF7's official development cycle began in 1994, actual production of the game didn't start until at least midway through 1995, and substantial content expansion and modification went on right up until its release in January 1997 (with post-release alterations for the Western version continuing after that). That basically positioned NGE as a giant psychic bomb landing right in the middle of FF7's production, which in turn allowed its influence to be felt in the final game.

Of course, if you really wanted the full manifestation of Square's undying love for Evangelion, you only had to wait until 1998...
 
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In the spirit of that post last year where someone found out that Queen Elizabeth had died from this thread, I'd like to say - Hojo has, in this thread, jokingly been compared to Henry Kissinger as two horrible war criminals who nonetheless have inexplicable sexual appeal and success with women, but there is one trait which they do not share at the point of the plot we've reached so far in this LP:

Hojo is still alive.
 
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