Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
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Possibly interesting factoid: The Peryton of both legend and of D&D is a part stag, part bird monster. Why they used the name for what looks like a red wyvern, I don't know (the Wiki page doesn't say).
Mainly in the form of two powerful dragon and two encounters with dividing monsters, which are a pain to actually fight.
ZerbanDaGreat
Daemon Noble of D E M O G R A P H I C S
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Funniest part about the dividing monsters is that you could've simply had Mimi spam Jump, because that can do enough damage to oneshot the dividing monsters relatively easily at this stage of the game. I also did that before I realised that magic also doesn't provoke Divide. Unfortunately Multiply still exists and a single Dragoon jumping isn't fast enough to thin the herd in the next dungeon.
God, the first time I stumbled through the waterfall and talked to the mysterious old man he rearranged my bones into alphabetical order, how did you take him down so dang easy.
God, the first time I stumbled through the waterfall and talked to the mysterious old man he rearranged my bones into alphabetical order, how did you take him down so dang easy.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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Because this is a video game. They only have so many enemy sprites/models, and fill out the rest with recolors/skins, applying names to the closest thing they got in the enemy sprite/model catalogue. It's not the first time we see a monster that's clearly a recolor of a different monster with a name that should look much different, and it won't be the last.
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The DRK Identity Crisis: One of this series' most bizarre traditions.
HolyDragoon
Call Gespenst!
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I thought I read somewhere that the JP name was somewhere among the lines of 'Magic Knight', but I can't find any source that confirms it (and the one place that used the term 'Makenshi' translated it as 'Demon Knight'), even though it would make sense (emphasis on the *magic* part of magic blade would mean splitters can't split, after all). Also being a magic blade would make them... an eastern-flavoured Knight, something that would probably explain why there's a Ninja nearby.
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Verdant Maiden in Violet
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FFIII continues to show off. The game's palpable enthusiasm at being the biggest and best Final Fantasy to date is just so endearing.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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The wiki page for translations of three compared to their translation pages for otger games agrees. It was Makensi, Magic Swordsman, in 3, then changed to Ankoku Kishi, Dark Knight, for 4 and onward (including XIV). Looks like they localized the name to match the later versions for 3's belated translations.
Kadmus
Dragon's teeth are surprisingly hard to sow
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Looking it up, the 'makenshi' in question is 魔剣士. 魔 can apparently mean both 'demon' and 'magic', so it's probably a pun of some sort on the variable meaning of the 'ma' part. (This is incredibly common in Japanese. They love their puns on homophones.) For context, that's the same character - and the same 'ma' - used in 第六天魔王, dairokutenmaou, Demon King of the Sixth Heaven, a title commonly attributed to Oda Nobunaga.
A better translation than Dark Knight would probably be Hexblade, in this context. Apparently the same phrase is translated as 'Warmage' in later games.
So basically Dark Knights in FFIII are not the Dark Knights of other FF games, which is why they have White Mage spells.
Oh, so this would have been from when you watched the manga, then?
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I just played it again a couple times and what consistently happens is that on the first turn I have Mimi do a basic attack (~1k damage), Rushanaq summon Titan (700 to 1,000 damage, roughly), have Tsugumi cast Haste on Mimi, have Quaver attack for about 1k damage, during which the Shinobi hits for about 80% of one of my characters' health; then on the second turn I have Mimi either attack or use Jump (1,5k damage or nothing, depending), another Titan summon, Tsugumi casting Curaga on whoever got hurt, and Quaver attacking again for another thousand damage, while the Shinobi attacks again, either killing whoever they attacked last if Tsugumi hadn't cast her heal yet or taking another character down to low HP. The Shinobi either dies to Quaver's attack (he's the slowest character in the party right now), or to Mimi's Hasted Jump at the start of the third round. I end the combat with either two characters at low health or one dead PC, usually either Tsugumi or Rushanaq.
So basically just DPS racing him to death with my high Dragoon level.
I did play Recetear actually, never finished it but I remember having a fun time.
Interesting!
You're quite correct. In the Pixel Remaster, the Dark Knight's KO sprite is simply them lying on the ground unconscious like most jobs, but in the NES original, their KO sprite instead has their armor lying scatted and empty.
This is a pretty weird fact, but a friend had this quote by FF3 sprite artist Koichi Ishii:
Article: "There's others, for example in FFIII I believe there's the dark knight job, and when they're KO'd in battle only their armor is left, as if the body inside has disappeared. The reason for that, in my imagining, is that they have a dark pact where their body is engraved with dark magic runes, and when they're KO'd the dark magic runes take their soul and body so only the empty armor remains. I had that kind of unique image for each job as I was creating it."
So the Dark Knight/Magic Knight/Demon Knight/Warmage was always intended to be using some kind of dark power - in this case, a pact with a dread power that will claim their soul should they die. Which is why they can only use special swords and wear special armor - although that lore exists only in the original designer's mind rather than in the game, where the Dark Knight is only presented as great masters of the blade who have conquered their own fear. From this, we can surmise that, for instance, that dark power might absorb the life force or essence of the things they kill, which in the case of dividing monsters might keep that life force from splitting into another, different monsters, hence their effectiveness at dealing with them?
Yes but also no. Teenage me wouldn't be caught dead listening to Naruto, that mainstream trash for jocks and popular kids. Everyone was reading Naruto and everyone knew it was trash. As a refined connaisseur of manga, I read One Piece, the superior Big Three shounen, alongside with more refined vintages such as Yu-Gi-Oh, Rurouni Kenshin, Shaman King, alongside more obscure delicacies such as Black Cat and Pokémon Special. And also DBZ, because, like, c'mon. You do have to give it up for the king.
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Special swords, conquering their fear, empty clothes when they die... Dark Knights are spooky medieval Jedi.
Amphidsf
The Quipster
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And thus you have reached my head canon for the 5.x series XIV DRK having the best AoE in the game, always just been a job that's very good at dealing with large groups of enemies.
Funny that you'd leave Bleach out of that list! If you haven't had a taste of it, the ghost story plotline is one you could really sink your teeth into.
While the animes that try to have what Bleach had are without number, none feel like you could use them to scratch the same itch.
As masters of the art of Cutting, dark knights require only one strike to sever their enemies from their lives, no matter what abilities and tricks they may posses.
Philistine! Barbarian! Dungeon Meshi is life!
No, but seriously, it's a pretty funny weird off-beat manga that gets really poignant on occasion. Everyone should try it.
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- Singapore
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- Singular They
I admit I'm still a little confused about the timeline in FFIII.
As in, I've forgotten whether the whole "Xande I give you the gift of WELCOME TO DIE" thing happened "a long time ago" on the scale of centuries, or "a while ago" on the scale of years (or decades at most).
As in, I've forgotten whether the whole "Xande I give you the gift of WELCOME TO DIE" thing happened "a long time ago" on the scale of centuries, or "a while ago" on the scale of years (or decades at most).
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Now you betray yourself. Imagine watching Bleach. Life is too short for watching weekly shounen anime adaptations produced on zero budget and death march production speeds that must have one episode every week from now until the angels sound the trumpets of the final judgement or else it instantly dies. Anime is for high-production prestige projects by Ufotable and Trigger; for everything else, there's paper and ink.
Are you saying that the Dark Knights should be more accurately called Dark Kings? 🤔
Right, yes, I remember that one, it's the one with the girl with the funny faces who went to Crimes Against Humanity College and also has never done anything wrong, ever, in her entire life.Philistine! Barbarian! Dungeon Meshi is life!
No, but seriously, it's a pretty funny weird off-beat manga that gets really poignant on occasion. Everyone should try it.
Actually you mostly wouldn't know this from my presence on this forum as opposed to Discord, but one of my major hobbies is home cooking, and as such I have a complicated relationship to this manga which presents me with so much delicious food that I could theoretically make if not for the slight problem that none of it actually exists in the real world.
I mean I could substitute so-called """real ingredients""" but it's just not the same without actual dragon meat, you know?
This is the appropriate reaction.
The game's heavy use of "once" and "long ago" makes it very ambiguous how long ago various events took place, and when they happened in relation to each other, because it appears allergic to naming specific number of years.
According to suplemental material dug up by @Tempera, Noah, Doga, Unei and Xande were active as a mentor-disciple unit doing their great deeds like sealing Bahamut a thousand years ago, which means they're 'ancient' in the sense of it being ancient history, but not Ancients in that their actions post-date the Wrath of Light, the creation of the Floating Continent, and the retreat of the last Ancient survivors to their small village by thousands of years. What Xande was doing during all that time remains ambiguous. As to their actual nature, it remains ambiguous.
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Egleris
Vagrant Dragon
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- Italy
Probably wasn't born yet; I'd be surprised if Noah was, either. That is, assuming the lot of them were born at all; that's another thing the game is ambiguous about.
By the way, since I'm posting anyway, I wanted to mention that, now that you have the Blood Lance and put a few extra levels into Mimi, it might be worth it to try for Odin again. Dragoon + Blood Lance is far more overpowered than it would first appear, or at least, it was in the original NES version.
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I'm going to take another crack at Odin after I post my next update in a little while, enough stuff went on in my last play session that I expect it to be something of a cakewalk.
Morganite
Happiness is a large book.
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Lalafell strike me as a bit less child-looking on average than Tarutaru, though I'm not sure I can point to exactly why. (Though I feel like graphical limitations might have hit them harder than the other player races in FFXI.) Sounds like the personality was changed quite a bit though, that kind of attitude showed up in FFXI but I don't think I remember it being a racial trend.
There's also the pretty common idea of cursed wounds resisting healing, although I'm not sure if I've seen that one in the FF series specifically. It seems like it might fit here, since here they don't seem to have picked up the drain-type abilities that the class later got.
I believe I'm now required to challenge you to a duel on behalf of Kyoto Animation.
-Morgan.
(And Radix Ace Entertainment.)