Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]

I know I've gassed up Midgar in every way, especially in aesthetics and pacing, but really the entire game maintains a very high level of quality throughout...as you've seen. It's actually starting to become a problem, where my thoughts and input are just becoming "Ah, yes. The game and LP continue to be immaculate, as expected."

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who's main knowledge of Sephiroth mostly came from fandom (and anti-fandom) impressions that were super prevalent back when everyone was 12 year olds with very aggressive opinions on videogames. I had the same shock when playing for the first time that this "overrated" uber-popular villain that had by my time been morphed into a vague anime evil bishonen stereotype wasn't just genuinely cool, but actually well written and compelling.
 
Another says that 'natural resources near the reactor are being sucked dry; we're better off with the Mako energy,' which suggests that he either doesn't see the causal link between Mako use and other natural resources dwindling, or that he does see it and sees the (he assumes infinite) Mako as a replacement for perishable natural resources.
If this is the NPC I think it is, then the Reunion's retranslation is actually a helpful clarification here: he's says, presumably taken more directly from the original script, that Mako energy is convenient so he's glad they have it, but that it's good that it's being extracted somewhere else and exported to them so they can benefit without a reactor sucking the land dry right next to their homes.

Which is of course a fun commentary parallel with a lot of things... NIMBYism, imperialism, you name it.

We know that Aerith was found by Elmyra 15 years ago (she would have been 7) during the war with Wutai; this 'cleaning up' after the war happened 5 years ago, when Cloud was 16. Meaning the war itself lasted something like ten years - no small amount of time to spend conquering and annexing territory.
*Sephiroth, kneeling on a beach with Cloud while Shinra bombers drop napalmFiraga on a treeline full of Wutai guerrillas.*

As we approach Sephiroth, he comments that "the Mako smells pretty bad here." Does he mean the smell of Mako is strong enough to be offputting, or that the Mako itself is tainted, I wonder?
"I love the smell of Mako in the morning... One time we had a whole hill set up with a reactor and used the Materia fresh from the oven right on them. That smell, that raw magic smell... Smells like... victory."

Then again, you also wouldn't book your soldiers into a hotel.
I think I have actually heard of incidences of small towns having all their hospitality services booked due to military events. Would depend on the country, era, and scale of it but for like a small investigation unit like this and in Shinra's weird corporate paramilitary structure I can see it.

Sephiroth: "Hojo of Shinra, Inc… An inexperienced man assigned to take over the work of a great scientist. He was a walking mass of complexes."

…yeah, that sounds like Hojo. He's exactly the kind of man who would arbitrarily rant about how calling it 'magic' is leaning on irrational old superstition and it should be called something stupid like 'aetheric manipulation' or whatever. And Sephiroth clearly doesn't think much of him. I'm assuming that other, better scientist would be that Dr Gast briefly mentioned in the archives.
I love this understated reveal that Hojo is, in fact, a quack and not qualified to be doing this kind of magi-science at all.

This must have been early in Shinra's development history. The Reactor is, for one thing, much, much smaller than any of the ones powering Midgar. It's also more primitive looking; the 'articulated' pipes feeding into the ground look clunky and awkward. Most of all, though, the central shaft of that tower is made of… cobblestone? Some kind of masonry, anyway. Which is jarring for a building that would normally use concrete and metal.
From my understanding from researching the etymology of "reactor" in Japanese to confirm my "FF7 is Anti-Nuclear" suspicion, the word for reactor is also the same as a metallurgical furnace. It's interesting to consider if one evolved into the other in this world.
 
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This is Zangan, a martial arts teacher who travels the world and claims to have 128 students (an oddly specific number!) among whom, in this town, is Tifa. Oh! Tifa backstory! So that's why she punches so hard, she's literally this game's Sabin, complete with an old wandering kung fu teacher. Explains why she's punching (get it) in everybody's league with just her fists. Zangan is kind of a showoff, doing backflips over Cloud as he talks, and wears a cape. He says Tifa has 'good sense,' and will become a powerful fighter.

Been sitting on this since you first got Tifa in her party and it felt like she didn't measure up to Cloud the super solider and Barret the walking artillery piece - Tifa gets to be on the level by being the protégé of a mystical martial arts badass. I mean check out this dude's art-


(original art by Nomura)

Look at that ponytail. Dude practically is an old-man Sabin.
 
Been sitting on this since you first got Tifa in her party and it felt like she didn't measure up to Cloud the super solider and Barret the walking artillery piece - Tifa gets to be on the level by being the protégé of a mystical martial arts badass. I mean check out this dude's art-


(original art by Nomura)

Look at that ponytail. Dude practically is an old-man Sabin.
Those pants with the waist at the ankles are certainly a choice for a guy who presumably does jumping kicks
 
Yeah, I didn't want to spoil it, but I considered Enemy Skill worth it for Matra Magic alone because firing tons of missiles out of my character's back in a fantasy rpg never gets old.
 
"This procedure is unethical, unsafe, and transgressive, and therefore must be inherently more valuable than proper science because it's not bound by standards and limitations" is, like, the defining trait of evil scientists, doctors and engineers in fictional and real worlds alike.
 
My mind also went to Sephiroth dressed up as a cutesy Idol prancing around on stage singing musical numbers. I can't get that image out of my head. So uh, in the politest possible way, screw you for that.

Also I now feel like it would be absolutely on brand for Shinra to have an exploitative Idol industry, and the only reason they don't is they never thought about it.
Maybe they did, it's just that Sephiroth stabbed all the managers to death and the industry collapsed. So they had to re-purpose the project assets, and history was made.

"OK, this whole 'Mako empowered idol' thing isn't working out. But..hear me out on this...what if we made the superhuman idols into super soldiers instead? Eh? Eh?"
 
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Okay, here's the thing, I don't like the first half of the letter, I think the sentences fit weirdly, it's constructed in a slightly offputting way, and as a result I want to check out the Retranslated mod version of that letter.

Letter: Tifa, how are you? I just arrived in Midgar eight days ago. Yesterday, all of Nibelheim got together to welcome me. The only person that we couldn't get a hold of was Cloud. But everyone said he wasn't really that close to us. So even if we asked, he probably wouldn't have come anyway.
This letter is the same as the first one. I assume it was supposed to be the retranslated version and it got lost in copying?

Also maybe this is me just not getting it, but if he arrived at Midgar eight days ago, how did Nibelheim get together to welcome him? Isn't Nibelheim the rural town Cloud is currently in? Is he just referenced the Nibelheim immigrants currently living in Midgar?
 
Hum…So,
Yeah Sephiroth kind of did that, fashion-wise.
I didn't get DIRECTLY blasted with him as a kid but uhh…
Organization 13 which showed up about this time?…
Those black hooded coats man.
If it weren't for the asthetic of Reploid armor from the Megaman X series in general- Not JUST Zero, mind, even if he contributed a good deal…
Thankfully I've kept an eye out for fun fashion and I think I've recovered…
*shoves manga under bed*
 
Sephiroth not being what people expected from the memes is always fun.


Working for Shinra you know he's probably done some horrible things but he's not a total A hole or worst, a another Hojo
 
There's a strong narrative there, of a country kid immigrating for the big city, the land of opportunity, and thinking he might find fortune there, only to struggle to find a job at all - it's an old, classic story, even if it's one that sometimes shares in… problematic ideas about the corruptive influence of the metropolitan city and the wholesome, healthy homogeneity of the rural 'heartland.' But also it's just something that actually happens to people!

It's a little interesting, because while FFVII was created in the middle of Japan's economic downturn, it actually pre-dates (by a few years) the issues Japan has had in the 2000s and 2010s with the hollowing out of its rural population, with all the young people going to the "big cities" (mostly Tokyo). The Japanese government had to try to enact various advertising campaigns extolling the virtues of countryside life.

In FFVII's case, you're probably right that it's just a common story element that's been around for a long time, but in the context of FFVII's social commentary, it's coincidentally prescient.

…You know, I have no idea what the protocol would be here in a real military. I feel like you wouldn't let one of your soldiers go off on his own just because he has local relatives? Then again, you also wouldn't book your soldiers into a hotel.

A hotel is actually one of the first considered options for the military when it comes to housing troops. The "luxury" aspect is irrelevant, since the primary concern is having some kind of common accommodation for a large number of people. Obviously the military isn't going to be paying for any extra amenities, but in terms of room and board, hotels usually have at least some kind of experience in housing large groups.

Of course, just as important is the logistics of transporting troops from where they're staying to the mission location. So if the military happens to have some convenient temporary barracks available that's right next to the mission, they'll use that instead of hotels.

Having said all that, this consideration is primarily for large groups. The Shinra expedition to Nibelheim is literally four people, which is just a section (well, half-section; I think "fireteam" might fit?). The point of preventing soldiers from going off with their own accommodations is to make sure the commanders (from the overall exercise lead to the individual section commanders) know where everyone is, and can call them up at a moment's notice. With just four people, this is not a difficult thing to do, so I can believe it's down to the discretion of the section commander (in this case Sephiroth) to allow a soldier to go bunk at their old home.

Which does add to the general idea of Sephiroth being just some guy, working for Shinra's military arm. He's fine with Cloud going off on his own to presumably catch up with his hometown friends, rather than sternly keeping everyone in prim military protocol.

This is Zangan, a martial arts teacher who travels the world and claims to have 128 students (an oddly specific number!) among whom, in this town, is Tifa. Oh! Tifa backstory! So that's why she punches so hard, she's literally this game's Sabin, complete with an old wandering kung fu teacher. Explains why she's punching (get it) in everybody's league with just her fists. Zangan is kind of a showoff, doing backflips over Cloud as he talks, and wears a cape. He says Tifa has 'good sense,' and will become a powerful fighter.

The first time I played through this, I remember feeling like it's very possible for Tifa to be higher-level (and thus more competent) than the level 1 Cloud, alleged supersoldier.

Which kind of coloured my impression of Cloud going "it's too dangerous" when Tifa is assigned as their local guide. I was thinking Tifa can probably take care of herself far better than Cloud getting KOed by every monster on the mountain.
 
This letter is the same as the first one. I assume it was supposed to be the retranslated version and it got lost in copying?

Also maybe this is me just not getting it, but if he arrived at Midgar eight days ago, how did Nibelheim get together to welcome him? Isn't Nibelheim the rural town Cloud is currently in? Is he just referenced the Nibelheim immigrants currently living in Midgar?
Fixed it. The second, Retranslated text should have said:

Tifa, how are you? I arrived in Midgar eight days ago. Me and the boys from Niblheim got together yesterday. Oh, except Cloud, that is. I didn't have his contact, so I couldn't ask him. Then again, he was never really close to any of us, was he? And if I'd invited him he wouldn't have been any fun. We all thought it was for the best.

"Me and the boys from Niblheim" is very different from "All of Nibelheim came together to welcome me" in a way where it's clear the original translation fucked up because it doesn't make sense in context; the inhabitants of Nibelheim can't 'come together to welcome him' when he went for Midgar. What he was supposed to say is that him and a bunch of other kids who left Nibelheim (dying town out at the edge of fucking nowhere) for Midgar, just like Cloud, got together.

Basically there's a small community of Nibelheim migrants in Midgar, most of them young men who went there looking for work, and who feel kinship with each other that they don't with the rest of Midgar, including migrants from other places.

It's a fairly common story that you can see, even without talking about international immigration, in 19th and early 20th century Bretons coming to Paris, and every European country probably has its own variant.
 
We've never had a Final Fantasy antagonist who's revealed in flashback to just be a chill dude we can hang out with? Garland had already turned evil by the time FFI started, we're told Xande was once cool in a single line of dialogue, the King of Baron was already an evil shapeshifter and Golbez under mind control since childhood, Exdeath and Kefka were always evil - Sephiroth starts the game as an antagonist of sorts (though we never see him), but the game's smartest trick is that after all these hours, when it does finally show us the goods, it's in the past, when Sephiroth is just… Hanging out. Doing Shinra's dirty work, sure, but importantly, he doesn't know about the bad shit. He doesn't know about Shinra creating monsters or the true nature of Jenova, and the fact that he knows her as his 'mother' clearly signals there's something with our boy that's beyond 'he was bathed in Mako a little harder than normal.' He is much more than meets the eye, and he doesn't know it yet; he's still just an elite soldier with high-tier magic, personable, slightly aloof but charismatic, a decent mentor to his protégés.
It won't surprise you to learn that the FF7 fandom is absolutely lousy with time travel fanfiction, specifically so that authors can play with Past Sephiroth.

10% of the 30,000 FF7 derivative fanfiction on fanfiction.net lists Sephiroth as one of its main characters. 29.4% of the 15,000 fics on Archive of Our Own, likewise.
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Our opponent is a giant fucking dragon. Flashback!Cloud is lv 1, has 140 HP, and dies instantly the moment that beast so much as breathes on him. Meanwhile, Sephiroth is lv 50, his equipped weapon is freaking Masamune, and he deals 3k damage with every hit. The 'combat' is mostly just Cloud dying instantly and Sephiroth cutting the opponent in two before striking a victory pose.
The first time I played through this, I remember feeling like it's very possible for Tifa to be higher-level (and thus more competent) than the level 1 Cloud, alleged supersoldier.
He tests well, okay?!
 
Imagine Cloud breaking into his own flashback Prince of Persia style with a "wait, that's not how it happened" and battle-Cloud just stands back up at full hp.
 
Also we're really getting into some classic JRPG villain design here. We saw it in the truck, but with the combat model it's even more obvious how Sephiroth is a handsome, tall, white-haired guy wearing a trenchcoat with armored pauldrons. Iconic design. A generation of anime watchers wouldn't recover in their lifetime.

Ghaleon MAGIC EMPEROR Ghaleon: "Wow, how original."

...Okay yeah, the basic design goes back to Elric*, even if he's more antihero than villain. And er, not from a JRPG.

*Monsieur Zenith if you're feeling really obscure.
One recurring theme I've seen in Japanese media is how excess power can leave you isolated from the people around you.

Citizen Kane too.

It won't surprise you to learn that the FF7 fandom is absolutely lousy with time travel fanfiction, specifically so that authors can play with Past Sephiroth.

"We need to make sure Jenova and Gast meet at the Enchantment Under the Sea Dance!"
 
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Okay, let's pull out that pin we put into Sephiroth's characterization earlier, because this is the point where I want to talk about it.

I know Sephiroth mostly from a mixture of pop-culture osmosis, the Advent Children movie, and Final Fantasy VII Remake, and like, idk, Dissidia clips or whatever. I've seen a bunch of this guy. Not enough that I have a clear idea what his motivations are meant to be, but enough that this feels…

Off.

Obviously we're heading for some kind of dramatic betrayal or, like, insert your "fallen angel" motif there. But the performances of Sephiroth I've seen, their writing, they all lend towards a certain characterization; a distant, ominous, cryptic figure, who's basically always smirking, and seems to express himself only in ambiguous statements of vague ominous import that puts our fates at stake.

Like, I don't want it to sound like a criticism; 7R Sephiroth's performance, for instance, is wonderful, and as a mysterious villain with unknown designs he has real charisma, but also everything he does and says is imbued with gravitas, with weight and import. He's a dude who seems to know everything, and even when you don't know what he's doing, fates or the world is at stake in his actions.

I cannot, for the life of me, imagine Advent Children or 7R's Sephiroth's voice acting and mocap performance saying something like "Tifa has to stay out of the building because there are Shinra industrial secrets inside." Or giving a lecture about Materia functionality and laughing at Cloud for having missed Materia 101 classes. Or shit-talking Hojo behind his back. Or making small talk with a colleague about their respective family lives.

He's just… A dude. He's definitely got a very striking style and personality, he's not necessarily someone you might have a drink with, he keeps things relatively at arm's length and professional, but he's just… A guy. Hanging out.

Obviously there was a transition between "Sephiroth the top-ranking SOLDIER" and "Sephiroth the ultimate JRPG villain," just like there was from "Kefka the court mage" to "Kefka the Laughing Angel," but the laughing angel was still recognizably the same character with the same personality, just handed godlike power and a minor nihilistic breakdown after people kept screwing with his plans. Whereas the Sephiroth I know from spinoff material is unrecognizable here.

It's fascinating.

It's something that Crisis Core carries on too - Sephiroth was built different but there was a time when he was just A Guy, someone capable of having friends, someone whom their betrayal could carry a sense of personal weight over 'oh no Giga-Hitler has gone rampant'. The huge shift in personality is very much deliberate, with one particular aspect that's sadly lost due to it being an untranslateable language nuance; in this Nibelheim flashback and in the relevant Crisis Core sequences he uses 'ore' as his personal pronoun. This is basically the 'shounen tough guy hero' personal pronoun, the one you might hear used by young men shooting the shit - all things that seem wildly antithetical to Sephiroth's image in pop culture. In all appearances after that, like Remake or Advent Children and so on, he uses 'watashi', which is formal and unisex, suitable to his "shall i give you despair? ( :" kind of affect.

This is very interesting to note, because when Cloud and Sephiroth face off at the edge of existence, Sephiroth is using 'ore' again. This is probably the strongest hint that Sephiroth isn't from the Remake's timeline and that his offer to Cloud may be more sincere than it initially seemed.
 
And there it is.

Our first shot of the man himself. The myth, the legend. The defining villain in Final Fantasy history. The great Sephiroth.
You should see this cutscene in the PC port. The characters all had mouths, and they didn't have the budget to animate those mouths all the time. They were just big circles instead, which was...unfortunately suggestive.

This is Zangan, a martial arts teacher who travels the world and claims to have 128 students (an oddly specific number!)
It's a nice round number.

When Tifa is gaining AP for the Fire Materia, she's not learning how to use Fire magic; she's learning how to better understand and read a… magical computer-gem which handles the magic for her, which is why when removing the Materia from her, she loses the ability to use Fire magic entirely.
But the AP gain is on the Materia itself. I see the Materia as a connection to the past knowledge and abilities in the world. The connection grows with use.
 
Maybe they did, it's just that Sephiroth stabbed all the managers to death and the industry collapsed. So they had to re-purpose the project assets, and history was made.

"OK, this whole 'Mako empowered idol' thing isn't working out. But..hear me out on this...what if we made the superhuman idols into super soldiers instead? Eh? Eh?"

I suppose the painful flashback stuff everyone's having could lead to Perfect Blue starring Sephiroth.
 
Fun fact: if you look in her dresser, you find her "orthopedic underwear", which is a nonsensical pair of random words presumably put together to imply even at age 17 she's already suffering lower back pain from gigantomastia.
Wait, she's been that way since when?! Jeez, where'd she get those?! What was her mother like? Did she die of a broken back because she turned around too fast and the sheer inertia of her bust snapped her spine?
 
The phrasing of the replies makes it clear that Cloud realizes that this is a total breach of trust; if we say "I'd never do that!" Tifa replies "Of course!" Because she trusts her childhood friend not to read her mail. But of course, I need the juicy character lore, so we read it anyway, and now I feel bad.
At least you didn't go near her dresser.
The huge shift in personality is very much deliberate, with one particular aspect that's sadly lost due to it being an untranslateable language nuance; in this Nibelheim flashback and in the relevant Crisis Core sequences he uses 'ore' as his personal pronoun. This is basically the 'shounen tough guy hero' personal pronoun, the one you might hear used by young men shooting the shit - all things that seem wildly antithetical to Sephiroth's image in pop culture. In all appearances after that, like Remake or Advent Children and so on, he uses 'watashi', which is formal and unisex, suitable to his "shall i give you despair? ( :" kind of affect.
That is fascinating. It's such a pity personal pronouns don't translate well. I'm guessing he switches to "watashi" in this game after the Incident?
 
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Cloud tries to dodge. Says it has nothing to do with the story of Sephiroth and what happened at the Mako reactor. But it's clear he's deflecting, trying to avoid something sensitive. Barret and Aerith both push him, wanting to hear about him and his family, and there we actually do get a dialogue choice - I don't know if insisting that "I don't want to talk about it" will actually skip the cutscene, but I don't want to skip the cutscene, so…

…oh my god. I, the player, am the one pushing Cloud's boundaries and forcing it to talk about sensitive stuff he would rather not. This is so devious.

Cloud: "I don't know if you'd call it a 'family'... My father… died when I was still young. That's why my mom… Lived alone in this house."
Cloud: "Yeah, I saw my mom. My mom… She was a vibrant woman. Hadn't changed at all. But a few days later, she died… But when I saw her, she looked fine."

So I guess this is the time to mention that I sort of have a utterly meaningless headcanon that Cloud's father is actually President Shinra and that Cloud's mum would have been his mistress whom he sent away tolive in Niebelheim once he got her pregnant.
Aside from this one brief sentence I don't think we ever get any info on Cloud's father so to the best of my knowledge there is nothing in the text that contradicts this so I've just happily made this fact up :D
 
So I guess this is the time to mention that I sort of have a utterly meaningless headcanon that Cloud's father is actually President Shinra and that Cloud's mum would have been his mistress whom he sent away tolive in Niebelheim once he got her pregnant.
Aside from this one brief sentence I don't think we ever get any info on Cloud's father so to the best of my knowledge there is nothing in the text that contradicts this so I've just happily made this fact up :D

So you want Cloud to be Rufus' half brother?
...
I can see it.
 
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