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I got to thinking that maybe the name 'Necrophobe' could refer to how he could be trying to stave off death by remaining undead lich-style. That'd also tie in with his invincibility barriers
Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
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If I'm reading the screenshot right, it's the LEGENDARY FUMA SHURIKEN
Oh and I guess Gilgamesh is here too.
Gilgamesh is just the greatest of bros and I love him for it. I mean sure when you think about it, guy prooooobably killed a bunch of Galuf and Xexat's soldiers back in the second world... but hey they aren't around anymore to complain about that
So a bit late now, but while doing a bit of ABP grinding in the rift myself, I discovered something quite fun:
Just about every single encounter isn't immune to Break, so I can cheese every single one of these encounters by just going spellblade Break -> Rapid Fire.
Only enemies I do anything else with are necromancers (undead just cast raise lmao) and Crystal Dragons (which are fairly rare).
You did have the right ability though, it's right there: Scram.
Okay so obviously this isn't telegraphed in any way shape or form because it's a boss battle, why would you be able to run from a boss fight, but... yes, for whatever reason you can run from Shinryu, so you totally could have done that here instead of a fully party drowning. Not that it makes it any less stupid to have a superboss hanging out in a random unmarked treasure chest 20 minutes from the last save point.
And yes, agreed. Gearcheck bosses are never fun, especially in a game as freeform as FFV with its class system.
Idunno, could probably whip together some lore ideas from "Afraid of Death", "Weak to Every Element", and "Has Super Barriers that block all attacks" for some guy who delved deep into dark magics because... well, he was just that afraid of the idea of dying.
(Unfortunately for Gilgamesh, he was unable to survive his Self-Destruct attack without his legendary Genji Armor. Whoops.)
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Shit I gotta go kill Exdeath and get started on FF6 if I'm gonna keep up.
Emy
Artificial Defender
There are, if I remember right, more or less 3 main strats for Shinryu.
The first is turtling up with immunities like you did, the second is jumping with dragon lances like you mentioned. Both of those require good amounts of specific gear. The third doesn't, which is... berserk Shinryu ASAP, so you only have to deal with physical attacks. Shinryu will kill a character any time it lands a hit, but you can mitigate that with blind status, image effects, golem, etc.
I guess there are also weird edge cases and exploits like the "zombies + hiding bard" or QuickLeak, but those are the normal approaches.
(edit: I really wish games like this gave you a better way of figuring out what status effects are valid to use, particularly on bosses which are immune to most status effects)
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Honestly, I'm used to these big series LP efforts dying way before we get to my favorite part, but I'm absolutely stoked for you to experience FFVI!
Zap Rowsdower
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Shinryu appearing out of nowhere via Superboss In A Box here actually determined his role in XIV's plot; IIRC YoshiP said he made sure Shinryu's every XIV appearance was an unforeshadowed out-of-nowhere surprise to homage his place in V.
We have a little more information on Shinryu than we do Omega, oddly, even though he appears less, mostly because of his role in Dissidia. Which basically just repeats that he's nemeses with Omega and that rather than direct self-improvement through combat he goes through complicated plots to manipulate locals on worlds he visits to gather power and knowledge from them without their awareness.
On Gilgamesh, here's a good place to mention that, as XIV highlights, most appearances by Gil in the series are the same guy wandering the Interndimensional Rift. And its definitely the guy from V - in both Dissidia and World of FF he's ecstatic to meet a Bartz and demands a rematch.
Except, we know he dies to Necrophobe. Which leaves a mystery. Did he survive his sacrifice and get lost, his cameos his wandering adventures on his way home, or are all his cameos set between his banishment by Exdeath and his sacrifice as he tries to get back to help his friends? Its not clear, and probably never will be, especially considering we dont even know what order his cameos are (or if some of them are even him - Final Fantasy Type-0's Gil is hotly debated, being either an origin story or a local variant).
We have a little more information on Shinryu than we do Omega, oddly, even though he appears less, mostly because of his role in Dissidia. Which basically just repeats that he's nemeses with Omega and that rather than direct self-improvement through combat he goes through complicated plots to manipulate locals on worlds he visits to gather power and knowledge from them without their awareness.
On Gilgamesh, here's a good place to mention that, as XIV highlights, most appearances by Gil in the series are the same guy wandering the Interndimensional Rift. And its definitely the guy from V - in both Dissidia and World of FF he's ecstatic to meet a Bartz and demands a rematch.
Except, we know he dies to Necrophobe. Which leaves a mystery. Did he survive his sacrifice and get lost, his cameos his wandering adventures on his way home, or are all his cameos set between his banishment by Exdeath and his sacrifice as he tries to get back to help his friends? Its not clear, and probably never will be, especially considering we dont even know what order his cameos are (or if some of them are even him - Final Fantasy Type-0's Gil is hotly debated, being either an origin story or a local variant).
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At this point it is growing apparent that I can't defeat Shinryu with strategy as things stand. I can reload repeatedly and hope at one point I get lucky in the specific pattern of attack he decides to use, but that's about it. I have no other shot at victory.
Does that make Shinryu the true hardest boss of the game, harder than Omega?
Well, not really. But the reason why not is kind of annoying.
This is me teleporting out of the Interdimensional Rift, taking the airship and flying all the way to the Phantom Town to buy some specific equipment.
Yes, this does mean I have to go through the entire Rift again on the way back.
Well, I hate to be the one to say I told you so, but,
I TOLD YOU SO!!
...To tell you the truth, there is another way to defeat him; Shinryu is weak to Berserk. This effectively seals away all his magic. He will hit you for about 7k, but it will only target one guy and can be dealt with with Golem
I grinded out every Job before fighting him. I was fine after getting the coral rings. I used Hastaga, hit hard and healed constantly. Turns out Mastering the Monk is a big help. It's a massive HP buff.
The room with Necrophobe in it has a rare encounter of three Movers. Killing them will net you 199AP and 150000 gill. And it's here I'll tell you something. In the GBA version of the game, Loading up a quick save meant that your second encounter would always be the rare one. This made this room easily the best way to master jobs... in the American version. In the European version of the GBA game which I got off Ebay, this Glitch was removed along with some others.
One more thing. The GBA had a bonus dungeon for after this; the Sealed Temple. You actually find the regular behemoth there, Learn there are Petrification spells too powerful for even Gold Needles (you need a special lotion) and terrifyingly enough, there are 6 Omegas in there, along with Omega Mk II, Neo Shinryu and the big boss in the dungeon Euno, who you should know plenty of about by now. The chemist was essential. The Potion that makes you immune to encircle works on a ton of other things, and there is a potion that doubles your HP. This and White Wind are the only real way to survive.
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So that's where that came from. (Yes, I've used the same strat before. Oftentimes it's easier to run than stand and fight.)Random side note: this game doesn't have standard Behemoth, only the "King" version, which is an odd twist. And they have a very funny answer to any attempt at using magic against them:
Because they are most often encountered in pairs, any use of a spell or a summon results in two Meteors, which is a quick way to wipesville. Of course, once you know that this is because of the magic weakness, it's easy to get around by just having Faris and Krile sit out the fight, which isn't a great feeling? Apparently Berserk nullifies their counters but how would I know that without a wiki. Anyway, that's how I TPK the moment I set foot in the Rift. Reload, fight them 'correctly,' and here's what happens:
At a certain point, you don't need EXP anymore. Only one thing left to face. Least you have a save point!
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GilliamYaeger
M'crazy.
Third option: The party blew through Necrophobe's last 9999 HP in one go like most players did and completely skipped the cutscene!
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The key factor here is that I'm being compensated for this, you can help ensure this LP keep going by donating to my Ko-Fi-
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I... I think I need to go sit down for a while.
What the fuck, Yoshi-P.
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...you know what I almost have to respect that. It's terrible, but it's also hilarious.
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I mean, if the guy's running around other FFs, what's to say he didn't pick up something with re-raise (or an equivalent) on it at some point? Option three: He actually did die, but it didn't stick.
... alternatively to re-raise, things go in and out of the afterlife in some other FFs, too, so. Kicked the bucket here, walked off the metaphorical station somewhere else? i probably should use different wording there consider the next game, but... i can't help myself...
Can't speak for other games in the series, but in FFVIII at least Scan has this whole thing where it brings up the enemy (or ally) you use it on on a blue computer-looking background where you can fully rotate the model, read flavor text and tips about it, and I'm pretty sure it even fully lists out resistances, weaknesses, and status immunities.
Pretty dope honestly.
Alternatively, maybe his gaydar is so finely-tuned that he can tell the genderqueer pirate captain doesn't understand themself as well as they think. To be fair, it probably doesn't help to figure things out when your first girl-crush turns out to be your long-lost sister.
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Why are we assuming Gilgamesh actually died from that rather than blasting off like Team Rocket?
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My theory is that Enkidu wandered by with a Phoenix Down or something.
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Not Crystal Dragon Jesus, 0/10.
But that's wrong though? Every appearance is clearly foreshadowed well in advance. The actual homage is that
He's stuffed in a box in both major appearances
did not die here, because there's a later appearance where he's missing two arms, which he notably is not here.
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SolipsistSerpent
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Wow, that Necromancer design you skipped over when you started running from encounters is awesome, very metal. Makes Necrophobe a bit of a let down, frankly. He looks like the most boring sentai villain design possible.
Honestly, I wonder if the game designers did know what they were doing when they named him that, considering he goes around surrounded by four different barriers that each serve to absorb all damage directed at him. This is clearly a guy who doesn't want to die.
Honestly, I wonder if the game designers did know what they were doing when they named him that, considering he goes around surrounded by four different barriers that each serve to absorb all damage directed at him. This is clearly a guy who doesn't want to die.
I literally laughed out loud here.
Oof, that really sounds boring. It's also a curious step back since IV already managed to design endgame encounters that are still fun and now it's back to the mess of the early parts.
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It's nice to see the origin of how FFXIV Shinryu tends to wipe the party at the very first Tidal Wave mechanic.
I admit I don't know if it's just how the game does spell effects, or if this screenshot was made mid-effect, but it looks like the party is very specifically choosing to Holy Necrophobe's head.
Not Necrophobe. Just his head.
Presumably Necrophobe's head has offended them in particular.
