Let's Play Every Final Fantasy Game In Order Of Release [Now Finished: Final Fantasy Tactics]
- Thread starter Omicron
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- Let's Play
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This is the best moment in the game IMO, and one of the best moments in the series.
I do think there's one other death scene that gives it a run for its money, but I love this moment's feelings, the gameplay and story integration, and especially that the game doesn't take away an entire party member from you FF7 what the hell was that.
I do think there's one other death scene that gives it a run for its money, but I love this moment's feelings, the gameplay and story integration, and especially that the game doesn't take away an entire party member from you FF7 what the hell was that.
Also, incredibly funny talk about how much they show Exdeath's power and his ability and willingness to commit mass destruction one game out from the single best example of that in the series.
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Omegahugger
Inattentive Idiot
If anyone asks, you were really in character as the hapless heroes getting fooled by the treacherous villain.
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Galuf has also been with us for 20 gameplay hours at this point, which isn't something that can be said of any of the previous games' heroic sacrifices, except technically Minwu.
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- Canada, probably
I missed commenting on Ghido, but it looks like everyone was able to appreciate his awesomeness.
Here we are in the Forest of Moore!
This is an Idiot Ball the size of the goddamned moon and my immersion is gone forever. After all the brilliant moments we've had (and will continue to have) the story is ultimately just yet another stupid JRPG with rusty screeching rails painted by a hack GM.
It makes me very, very sad.
Here we are in the Forest of Moore!
Wait… is that is the GBA port? I don't remember it.
Yeah, that's definitely new. It always used to just open up, with no glowy friend. Makes more sense than asking a knothole to open up, but it's a little jarring when I'm so accustomed to it not being there.The wood sprites, as it turns out, aren't as talkative as might have been suggested, but they are helpful, opening up new pathways for us:
Fun fact: if you get to this chest before the fire, it's an Aegis Shield. So the theming is not a coincidence. No idea what the Flametongue would have been though, I'm pretty sure you can't get there before the fire.
Gee. I wonder what those crystalline objects could possibly be, Bartz.
I have never heard of anyone actually getting surprised by that twist. I'm so glad it actually landed for someone!
Yyyyyyyup. The whole time.
Yeahhhh. I really dislike this part, because it's just so stupid. It gets us from the torching of the forest (amazing scene) to Galuf's glorious sacrifice (awesome scene), so I can't get too worked up about it, but… no. I refuse to believe they couldn't tell these were the crystals. I refuse.
This is an Idiot Ball the size of the goddamned moon and my immersion is gone forever. After all the brilliant moments we've had (and will continue to have) the story is ultimately just yet another stupid JRPG with rusty screeching rails painted by a hack GM.
It makes me very, very sad.
But Krile makes me feel better! Krile is just the best.Let's take a look at Krile's job sprites!
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- The Great Beyond
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- He/She/They
I believe that's not technically true- Summoner stops at 5, as I recall.
This is the best sequence in the series in my opinion and the fact that they explicitly invoke the gameplay healing mechanics as a desperate effort to save him and the entire fighting at literal 0 HP are a really big part of why.
This however is also cool.
Fun fact: Krile is not a one to one Galuf replacement. She inherits all his job masteries, but she doesn't have his base stats.
Galuf is high Stamina (the highest) and high Strength (second or third place, competing with Bartz at top- I think he ties Faris?), but low Agility (the lowest) and Magic.
Krile, appropriate to being a magical little girl badass and not a hardened old warrior defined by dogged durability above all else, is the lowest Stamina and I believe also Strength, and the highest Agility and like second on Magic (Lenna is top if I remember right).
This is one reason I basically said to ignore the base stats. They don't have as large an effect as class stats, and FF5 pulls an interesting trick here. If you build Galuf to be classes his stats are 'suited' to, and make him a warrior, then Krile will have an ability set at odds with her natural inclinations. Conversely, if you know Krile is going to show up and try to build around her stats, that means spending like twenty hours having Galuf try to mage it up while his stats want him to be a warrior.
In practice it's just better for Krile to carry on her grandpa's legacy rather than trying to completely retrain her, since the character level difference in stats is much smaller than the class level difference.
Incidentally, her stat totals are better than Galuf's by a small margin- she's around middle of the pack, while Galuf is at the very bottom (and Faris at the absolute top).
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- Phoenix
It's because for a lot of westerner fans, FF7 was the first one that they played. Back then older video games were harder to get, the used game industry just didn't really exist back then, so most of those fans didn't play FF1 through 6 until much later when they could get stuff like updated re-releases.
Emy
Artificial Defender
Not just updated re-releases. FF5 only had its initial English release in 1999, two years after FF7.
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More importantly FF5 was not originally released to the west. Remember, it was FF1, then FF4 branded as 2, and then FF6 branded as 3, and then 7, and then the rest of the other first six got rereleases and so forth over the following decades to actually hit the west.
Oh boy, and here's one of the updates I've been waiting for for a good long while, let's goooooo
And then Krile just cheats and flies straight in later, and after the events of this update there's a thin strip that opens up so you can fly in whenever you want
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU_LfS4ODFs
I mean, it's not a series. But for whatever reason, there is totally a feature length Final Fantasy animated movie that is apparently based in the world of FFV, just hundreds of years later. ...Honestly I thought it was an adaption of FFV until I looked it up for this post. Probably spoilers or something in there so I wouldn't actually advise watching it right now, but fun to throw out that "this exists."
And yes, Krile just spontaneously flying around half the world is goddamn hilarious.
And what a way to go. Regardless of what setup you have on Galuf, he's absolutely hitting 0 HP in the first couple rounds, because ExDeath hits like a truck and is very clearly designed to have a full party to split the damage, but he just keeps going. If HP tracked into the negatives, he'd probably break the HP cap in the wrong direction this fight.
Can confirm I also spent a good ten to fifteen minutes struggling with this, rubbing my ship and submarine up against every corner of the continent going "how the hell do I get in here."
And then Krile just cheats and flies straight in later, and after the events of this update there's a thin strip that opens up so you can fly in whenever you want
Yup, it came up way earlier in the LP I think, but most forms of magic actually max out at Level 6 in FFV, with the exception of Summoning for whatever reason. Personal guess is they just didn't have enough ideas for more summons at some point, because tbh the power curve of summons also spikes heavily in the near future.
Also something that was going through my head replaying FFV after reading the LPs if the other games. Exdeath is a villian who... shock of shockers, actually does things. The moment he's released, he's starting shit left and right for the rest of the game. He's warring with everyone else in the Second World, he's throwing up his barrier in an attempt to crush Galuf's entire army, he's sinking islands, burning forests... he's a pretty hype villain for it all, that's for sure.
You know, speaking of Final Fantasy the Animated Series...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU_LfS4ODFs
I mean, it's not a series. But for whatever reason, there is totally a feature length Final Fantasy animated movie that is apparently based in the world of FFV, just hundreds of years later. ...Honestly I thought it was an adaption of FFV until I looked it up for this post. Probably spoilers or something in there so I wouldn't actually advise watching it right now, but fun to throw out that "this exists."
And yes, Krile just spontaneously flying around half the world is goddamn hilarious.
And here we are: the moment I was hyped for this entire playthrough, and IMO the best character death in the entire series. Obviously and easily outstrips everything before it too, because Galuf was there for you this entire game, he's been in the party since what, minute 5 of gameplay? It's just... really well done, compared to all the "whoops I sacrifice myself but not really" going around in FFIV, or FFII's rotating cast of characters, or FFIII's side character deaths.
And what a way to go. Regardless of what setup you have on Galuf, he's absolutely hitting 0 HP in the first couple rounds, because ExDeath hits like a truck and is very clearly designed to have a full party to split the damage, but he just keeps going. If HP tracked into the negatives, he'd probably break the HP cap in the wrong direction this fight.
And yes, having played FFV way back in the day as well... Aerith has also annoyed me for a good long time. FFV makes it very clear that Raise/Phoenix Down is an abstraction for gameplay purposes.
And as Terrabrand already went into detail on, this also changes up those small stat changes you have per character... and why they don't really matter. Like just to note: The widest gap between Galuf and Krile (and the widest gap between any two character's base stats)... is only 4 points. It's fairly negligible when most specialized classes give you things in the range of +30 and endgame Freelancers can draw from mastered classes to have those buffs in every stat. Plus, most of the damage and defense and the like formulas use Level as an important part of them, so Level tends to matter more than raw stats in many situations.
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Also, looks like I was closer to job mastery than I thought. I just mastered Ninja on Bartz and Time Mage on Krile. That's now Mystic Knight/Ninja + Knight at LV 3 for Bartz, and Summoner/Time Mage + White Mage at LV 3 for Krile. I'm... Not sure what to swap them into next? The Ranger doom combo is tempting but wow I just tried Bartz as a ranger and the sheer fall-off in offensive power in the middle of a tough dungeon hurts real, real bad.
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There's always the option in the short term of just making Bartz a freelancer for MORE POWA rather than training him in the tough dungeon. With multiple mastered classes Freelancer will be very strong since it inherits best stats+ all fully passive effects, I think Berserker's auto berserk is the only thing you get from just being in a certain class that Freelancer won't swipe for its own use.
Frankly, the fact that you have multiple mastered jobs at all is kind of ridiculous at this point in the game. I'd say just go with Terrabrand's suggestion of blitzing through the upcoming dungeon with some Freelancer Fun as a taste of the power you'll have in the endgame, I'm pretty sure the difficulty drops back down a bit after this one anyways.
As Warclam mentioned, the Flame Shield is actually accessible before jumping down with the Moogles, and is an Aegis Shield at that stage. The Flame Shield is statistically superior and has a Fire absorption effect over the Aegis Shield, which provides an immunity to Petrify and a unique 33% chance to block negative spells.
Both are useful in their own way, but the petrification immunity and spell block of the Aegis Shield generally wins out in my mind as the only other way to obtain them are rare steals from a late game encounter and a late game boss, while there are 2 other guaranteed Flame Shields. Bit of a dick move to put a brief time window for a near one-of-a-kind item but this is far from the most egregious example in the series.
FunkyEntropy
Occasionally insightful, possibly grumpy
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- Los Angeles
I'll have more to say later, but just for now I want to state plainly and clearly that Krile in a tiger onesie is objectively the best thing ever.
Zap Rowsdower
Ex-cultist vagrant
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You'll have to master Ranger eventually if you want the combo. For now, yeah, going Freelancer may be for the best. Or go with Monk/Thief for the pure stat boosts (though Monks should lag behind the damage curve at this point, I think, and Thief's agility is only marginally better than Ninja's).
For Krile, well, keep in mind that you can only give her two active skills as a Freelancer. If you keep her as Summoner/Time Mage, she doesn't need more magic skills, and Summoner already gives her the best magic stat, so I guess she's just done. You can also try to course-correct her into White Mage/Time Mage and give Summoning to Faris, since Dualcast Summoning is dope (and also increases your magic stat), and concentrating support/healing magic on one character is not a bad idea. Or just master White Mage for passives to pass onto Freelancer.
Or turn her into a Monk/Thief for stats as well.
Normally, there would be room to advance Blue Mage, Beastmaster and Chemist, but since you aren't actively using Blue Magic or Mix, it's not super relevant to you.
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Monk damage depends on Omicron's actual level; since Monk's base unarmed damage goes up by a couple points per level (in addition to the normal multiplicative modifier for level), so whether or not it's better than current gear available does depend on where exactly Omicron is on level.
(other classes are a bit more straightforward to compare since you can make meaningful statements about who's available weapons for each phase of the game are stronger)
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- Te Ika-a-Māui
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- She/Her
And that's only if you were a Yankee; PAL territories didn't get any of the (S)NES-era games until after FF9 came out.
