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Mellithae said:
EDIT 2: I'm kinda curious. Would a custom gear be known in-setting?
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Nope.

Come to think of it, I forgot to mention that any 'unique' Sacred Gears you buy are actually a copy of the original made by Jump-chan (the current one).

I should probably fix that. :oops:

Edit: as a clarification; I mean that purchasing a Longinus will get you a copy of it, not take the one from its current user and give it to you.
 
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Jack of Olives said:
Nope.

Come to think of it, I forgot to mention that any 'unique' Sacred Gears you buy are actually a copy of the original made by Jump-chan (the current one).

I should probably fix that. :oops:
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You mean that if we chose an existing gear, it's a copy, right? Because if custom gears are copies as well, I will be very confused.

EDIT: Okay. This actually makes me more in favor of a custom one, because I don't think we exactly want the attention of having a cloned longinus. With that in mind...

[x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
-[x] Human
-[x] Independent
-[x] Neophyte
-[x] Sacred Gear - Nemesis Ether[550]
-[x] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling[600]
-[x] Renewable Demonic Contract[Free]
-[x] Tattered Journal[300]
-[x] A Club, All In One[150, Import 3 (Eliza, No-longer-jump-chan, ???)]

Going with Nemesis Ether for now because I feel like it goes well with Vivian's Arcane magic in both effect and theme. Still not that confident about this, but...

Not really sure who the third companion is. Assuming we can leave it blank because several other people have.

On a sidenote, checking the character sheet has made me confident enough willpower wise that I withdraw my specific questioning of the Sephiroth Graal. Still not voting for it ATM.
 
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[x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
[X] Ask her if she has any preferences. That should bypass the pain thing, Right?

Well, while we can always research time magic the hard way the idea of being capable of reproducing different magic styles with unique requirements is kinda tempting. BTW, i wonder how both of the SGs would appear, perhaps magic circles in the eyes and gloves?
 
Just wanted to get all the plans in one place so you guys know your options.

So, without further ado:

Plan #1:
veekie said:
[X] Plan Companions and Future
-[X] Human[Free]
-[X] Independent
-[X] Neophyte[Drop In]
-[X] Sacred Gear - Sephiroth Graal[500 CP]
-[X] Tattered Journal[300, Neophyte]
-[X] Renewable Demonic Contract [Free, Neophyte]
-[X] A Club, All In One[300,Import 6]
-[X] Ritual Room[150, Neophyte]
-[X] The Stash[300]
-[X] 12 Issues of Questionable Magazines[50]
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As stated on the tin, this plan is focused on helping your allies, and prepping for the future. What it lacks in power, it makes up for with support options & DIY stuff. Also includes a Stash for some more knowledge of Anime and Manga for future jumps (although they might not be 100% accurate).

Plan #2:
Hellarion said:
[X] Plan Time mage FTW!
-[X] Human
-[X] Independent
-[X] Neophyte
-[X] Sacred Gear - Telos Karma [500] (CORE version)
-[X] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling [600]
-[X] Renewable Demonic Contract [Free]
-[X] Tattered Journal[300]
-[X] A Club, All In One[200, Import 4]
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Aka: Plan 'Next you are going to say X'. Also comes with the Sacred Gear-making journal. Also includes four (4) companion 'imports'.

Plan #3:
Selias said:
[X] DxD Build Plan
-[X] Race: Human (1400 CP) (200 CP for Sacred Gears)
-[X] Faction: Independent (1400 CP)
-[X] Background: Drop-In (1400 CP)
-[X] Sacred Gear: Sephiroth Graal (1100 CP) (0 CP for Sacred Gears) [First SG is discounted]
-[X] Sacred Gear: Import - Eliza/Absolute Demise (100 CP)
-[X] Chess Set (50 CP)
-[X] Otaku Alarm Clock (50 CP)
-[X] A Club, All In One: Jump-chan/Nameless
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Also known as Plan Longinus. This gets you the life-granting powers of Sephiroth Graal and Merges Absolute Demise with Eliza for some cool new abilities.

Plan #4:
Mellithae said:
[x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
-[x] Human
-[x] Independent
-[x] Neophyte
-[x] Sacred Gear - Nemesis Ether[550]
-[x] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling[600]
-[x] Renewable Demonic Contract[Free]
-[x] Tattered Journal[300]
-[x] A Club, All In One[150, Import 3 (Eliza, No-longer-jump-chan, ???)]
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Or as I like to think of it: Plan Blue-Deck (It's a M:tG joke). Also comes with the Journal for Sacred Gear-making & three (3) Companion 'imports'.

Anyway, Voting will remain open until .

Edit: fixed a few things. :oops:
 
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[x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
-[x] Human
-[x] Independent
-[x] Neophyte
-[x] Sacred Gear - Nemesis Ether[550]
-[x] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling[600]
-[x] Renewable Demonic Contract[Free]
-[x] Tattered Journal[300]
-[x] A Club, All In One[150, Import 3 (Eliza, No-longer-jump-chan, ???)]
Adhoc vote count started by lightningowl15 on Mar 15, 2019 at 8:16 PM, finished with 1360 posts and 1 votes.
  • [x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
    -[x] Human
    -[x] Independent
    -[x] Neophyte
    -[x] Sacred Gear - Nemesis Ether[550]
    -[x] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling[600]
    -[x] Renewable Demonic Contract[Free]
    -[x] Tattered Journal[300]
    -[x] A Club, All In One[150, Import 3 (Eliza, No-longer-jump-chan, ???)]
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Adhoc vote count started by lightningowl15 on Mar 15, 2019 at 8:17 PM, finished with 52 posts and 8 votes.
  • [x] Plan I Have No Better Ideas
    -[X] Human[Free]
    -[X] Independent
    -[X] Neophyte[Drop In]
    -[x] Sacred Gear - Nemesis Ether[550]
    -[X] Sacred Gear - Cassandra Calling [600]
    -[X] Renewable Demonic Contract [Free, Neophyte]
    -[X] Tattered Journal[300, Neophyte]
    -[X] A Club, All In One[300,Import 6]
    [X] Ask her if she has any preferences. That should bypass the pain thing, Right?
    [X] Ask Eliza if she has any suggestions.
    [X] Plan Companions and Future
    -[X] Human[Free]
    -[X] Independent
    -[X] Neophyte[Drop In]
    -[X] Sacred Gear - Sephiroth Graal[500 CP]
    -[X] Tattered Journal[300, Neophyte]
    -[X] Renewable Demonic Contract [Free, Neophyte]
    -[X] A Club, All In One[300,Import 6]
    -[X] Ritual Room[150, Neophyte]
    -[X] The Stash[300]
    -[X] 12 Issues of Questionable Magazines[50]
    [X] DxD Build Plan
    -[X] Race: Human (1400 CP) (200 CP for Sacred Gears)
    -[X] Faction: Independent (1400 CP)
    -[X] Background: Drop-In (1400 CP)
    -[X] Sacred Gear: Sephiroth Graal (1100 CP) (0 CP for Sacred Gears) [First SG is discounted]
    -[X] Sacred Gear: Import - Eliza/Absolute Demise (100 CP)
    -[X] Chess Set (50 CP)
    -[X] Otaku Alarm Clock (50 CP)
    -[X] A Club, All In One: Jump-chan/Nameless
    [X] HCV DxD build plan
    -[X] Human 1400+200
    -[X] Independent
    -[X] Neophyte[Drop In]
    -[X] Twice Critical 300
    -[X] Cassandra Calling 600
    -[X] The Academy 600
    -[X] Noble Title 100
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Basically for pratical purposes it gives CP for our allies to spend, with the caveat that they must spend 3 full jumps with us. In general is how you drag ppl you like across jumps.
 
Mellithae said:
Switching around your own energies, for people besides Vivian, isn't the important part. It lets you use things like angel light-spears, and maybe you can figure out how to use something more specific, like the power of destruction. Nice, but fairly insignificant. (For Vivian, of course, that aspect is much more useful.) The important part is switching other people's.

You can make most spells (and other supernatural abilities) fail by changing whatever energy is powering them to some other energy. You can definitely make it explode in their hands (or worse) and might even be able to make use of that energy yourself. The potential to kill a god comes in with changing enemy energies directly (remember that you can derive new energies, especially ones opposed to energies you already know, so finding something antithetical to a god isn't that hard) - though changing your own attacks to be of something as antithetical to them as light is to devils is nice too.

There's also the potential to derive new types of energy - and so, new effects or even magic systems.
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Thanks for the elaboration and concept.
I feel changing the might's to affirmatives might make it fit in better as a Longinus, considering the sheer absurdity other Longinus can pull off. For reference, a normal SG like Night Reflection is already able to absorb attacks using shadows and redirect them from any shadow in the user's range.
More importantly, I think added emphasis on the creation part of new energies and system would be a good equalizer. And fitting with the theme of sacred gears being a way to enact miracles on earth.
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all Longinus is just a combination of one ability with another. Essentially, they combine powerful abilities that aren't supposed to be combined.
Source: Azazel
Fits Azazel's definition of Longinus too, with transmutation and creation being combined.
It wouldn't be too broken either since it'll require a lot of time to explore and fully realise its potential — but potential is what it has in abundance and what I think Vivian would appreciate.
 
Technically speaking, any Sacred Gear can bypass or partially-bypass the normal rules with their balance breaker.

A good example of this is Yuuto's Sword Birth being able to create Holy Demon-Swords. While, it's been stated that this was only possible due to the deaths of God and the four original Satans; but it's still something that was thought impossible until he achieved it.
 
FatedBread said:
Thanks for the elaboration and concept.
I feel changing the might's to affirmatives might make it fit in better as a Longinus, considering the sheer absurdity other Longinus can pull off. For reference, a normal SG like Night Reflection is already able to absorb attacks using shadows and redirect them from any shadow in the user's range.
More importantly, I think added emphasis on the creation part of new energies and system would be a good equalizer. And fitting with the theme of sacred gears being a way to enact miracles on earth.
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All the "might" and "potential" and such are me going "this is what I would make it do, but @Jack of Olives might take it in a different direction."
 
FatedBread said:
I feel changing the might's to affirmatives might make it fit in better as a Longinus, considering the sheer absurdity other Longinus can pull off. For reference, a normal SG like Night Reflection is already able to absorb attacks using shadows and redirect them from any shadow in the user's range.
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Mellithae said:
All the "might" and "potential" and such are me going "this is what I would make it do, but @Jack of Olives might take it in a different direction."
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I'm ruling that just jamming an opponent's energies with their opposites isn't Longinus-level. Being able to just actually use an opponent's opposite-energy in combat like other magic is longinus-tier. In the first case, a likely Balance-Breaker would be discovering new energies to use; in the latter, you could theoretically create new types of energy to use.

The Longinus power-levels are OP like that.

Edit: and by 'Create' I mean bend reality so that such a thing exists.
 
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Jack of Olives said:
I'm ruling that just jamming an opponent's energies with their opposites isn't Longinus-level. Being able to just actually use an opponent's opposite-energy in combat like other magic is longinus-tier. In the first case, a likely Balance-Breaker would be discovering new energies to use; in the latter, you could theoretically create new types of energy to use.

The Longinus power-levels are OP like that.

Edit: and by 'Create' I mean bend reality so that such a thing exists.
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Do whatever specific thing with it you think is best. I'm just providing the general idea.

The general ideas were just:

-Switch out your own energy, so you can use techniques from any power source/magic system (that you've encountered). (Also for using opposing energies to your opponent, of course.)

-Make spells (or other supernatural effects) fail or explode* or get turned into energy you can use to cast with yourself.

-The magical equivalent of replacing people's blood with magma. (Replacing their mana (or equivalent) with something else, ideally their nemesis.)

-Make (in the same sense you said create) new types of energy (with attendant special traits and potentially magic system), with a specialty in energies antithetical to ones you already know. (Hence the "Nemesis" in the name.)

*or otherwise fail catastrophically. In some systems this would be hilariously lethal.
 
[X] Plan Companions and Future
-[X] Human[Free]
-[X] Independent
-[X] Neophyte[Drop In]
-[X] Sacred Gear - Sephiroth Graal[500 CP]
-[X] Tattered Journal[300, Neophyte]
-[X] Renewable Demonic Contract [Free, Neophyte]
-[X] A Club, All In One[300,Import 6]
-[X] Ritual Room[150, Neophyte]
-[X] The Stash[300]
-[X] 12 Issues of Questionable Magazines[50]
 
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