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Knight of Wessex (A Written World Quest)

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AeonIlluminate said:
@DeadmanwalkingXI I think you missed my question, could I get an answer for that?
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I did indeed miss it.

For most Finales weakening it down to 1st Decade is probably viable...for a Counter-Finale however, you need to, uh, counter a Finale for the test. Reinald can arrange that via a trustworthy Norseman and some money or a few other methods, but it makes not using it at full power ill-advised.
 
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Did you still want to talk to the bishop about our revelation? At this point just talking to the bishop, in general, could be good. We did just succeed a test from God (as the most humble Knight in Wessex ofc).
 
Nice play on the title btw. I imagine future readers who weren't around while the votes are counted get tricked into thinking we are about to kill the dragon.
 
Alectai said:
She was no heathen warmain–who was gifted power for doing insane things and telling people the tale. She was to be a Knight of Wessex! the span of centuries was hers to claim as she pleased! Power? Glory? Recognition? They were inevitable as long as she walked the right path! She was a Guardian of the Faith! Not some thuggish brute solely interested in her enrichment!
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'....Wessex! The* span...'
 
Lukepop said:
Did you still want to talk to the bishop about our revelation? At this point just talking to the bishop, in general, could be good. We did just succeed a test from God (as the most humble Knight in Wessex ofc).
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Theres already nearly 20 people voting for the plan, I don't wanna go change a third of our actions now. However, I have started writing down future stuff for turn plans, so I have now put that in as one of our 2 Secondary actions for next turn. Thanks for the reminder.
 
[X] Plan: Gaining Ground
-[X] [Focus Action] Ask Reinald about Hordebreaker Finale's and other rote's and meditations Audrey should get, also if he can look into sorting out a way we can test fire the Clever Deflection + GKB counter finale we are working on this turn so that we can get it to Refined, preferably the turn after the tourney as we have some plans for our current Zeal up until the tourney.
-[X] [Secondary Action] Go out and do minor deeds
-[X] [Secondary Action] Talk with local squires and exchange letters with her friends
-[X] [Chancellery] "To Smite the Wicked"
-[X] Training and Zeal (60 Training, 126 Zeal)
--[X] Spend 27 Training on getting GKB to Mastered
--[X] Spend 8 Training on Hordebreaker Rank 3 -> 4
--[X] Spend 3 Training on getting Gate-Shatter to Rough
--[X] Spend 4 Training on getting Web Shape Rank 2 -> 3
--[X] Spend 3 Training on getting Tremorsense to Rough
--[X] Spend 6 Training on getting Bouncing Leap to Refined
--[X] Spend 3 Training on getting Superlative Counter Not Existing -> Rough
--[X] Spend 6 Training on getting Blinding Beam to Refined
--[X] Spend 114 Zeal on Decade advancement, 0 Beads (60/74) -> 10 Beads/4th Decade. 12 Zeal Remaining
While Tremorsense is not needed, it is good to have as a way to see the things that Web cannot. So Tremorsense & Gate-Shatter, in my mind, are worth it to have if only at Rough. Also any possibility that we could we go & take a look at the Fort again, see if Alfred & his crew missed anything.
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[X] Plan WHATS IN THE BOX
 
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--[] Create a Diplomacy Meditation focused on emphasizing our virtues of Joy and Wisdom which allows us to better ignore the barbs and whispers of any who would seek to provoke our Ira. They shall be remembered, and their offenses punished in due time, but why allow them the satisfaction of showing the wound they have given?

Is a meditation like this viable? It's my largest concern on what I think we should get non-combat wise prior to the tournament - something to help Audrey restrain herself flying off the handle at the first or second or third norseman or noble to look down their nose at her and offer her a snub.
 
MagikarpLvl58 said:
--[] Create a Diplomacy Meditation focused on emphasizing our virtues of Joy and Wisdom which allows us to better ignore the barbs and whispers of any who would seek to provoke our Ira. They shall be remembered, and their offenses punished in due time, but why allow them the satisfaction of showing the wound they have given?

Is a meditation like this viable? It's my largest concern on what I think we should get non-combat wise prior to the tournament - something to help Audrey restrain herself flying off the handle at the first or second or third norseman or noble to look down their nose at her and offer her a snub.
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Meditations can't counter something internal like Ira but absolutely can help counter external things like intentional provocation. That said...this is very much what Litany of Resolve does in non-combat situations. Stacking Meditations works, but it'd need to do something different and this is almost identical.

Audrey doesn't have any real tools for engaging in court intrigue in an offensive sense at the moment, but Reinald comes from a milieu where it's common and he taught her the basics of defending against this kind of thing.
 
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DeadmanwalkingXI said:
Meditations can't counter something internal like Ira but absolutely can help counter external things like intentional provocation. That said...this is very much what Litany of Resolve does in non-combat situations. Stacking Meditations works, but it'd need to do something different and this is almost identical.
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My understanding was that Litany of Resolve was specced into actual supernatural mental attacks, and only has mediocre effect against mundane insults and persuasion. This was meant to mask Audrey's reactions and help her control her impulses to those mundane persuasion/diplomacy attacks in particular, which I felt was worthwhile enough to make a new meditation for.

If Litany of Resolve is actually equivalent to something like this when it comes to mundanity, then that's fine. I just figured that something targeted would be more than "somewhat" helpful
 
MagikarpLvl58 said:
My understanding was that Litany of Resolve was specced into actual supernatural mental attacks, and only has mediocre effect against mundane insults and persuasion. This was meant to mask Audrey's reactions and help her control her impulses to those mundane persuasion/diplomacy attacks in particular, which I felt was worthwhile enough to make a new meditation for.

If Litany of Resolve is actually equivalent to something like this when it comes to mundanity, then that's fine. I just figured that something targeted would be more than "somewhat" helpful
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So, becoming immune to mundane social stuff is just not doable. Cultivators are people and react like people, they don't ever become impossible to piss off or trick, if we're talking mundane trickery or provocation. The lesser bonus of Litany of Resolve against mundane stuff is not because it's focused on the supernatural per se, but because using magic to resist mundane social stuff has limits.

If you buy something very specifically focused on provocation only, that probably would help more and be available, but there's diminishing returns with how high bonuses can reasonably stack on that kind of thing, and Litany of Resolve is already pretty solid.
 
DeadmanwalkingXI said:
So, becoming immune to mundane social stuff is just not doable. Cultivators are people and react like people, they don't ever become impossible to piss off or trick, if we're talking mundane trickery or provocation. The lesser bonus of Litany of Resolve against mundane stuff is not because it's focused on the supernatural per se, but because using magic to resist mundane social stuff has limits.

If you buy something very specifically focused on provocation only, that probably would help more and be available, but there's diminishing returns with how high bonuses can reasonably stack on that kind of thing, and Litany of Resolve is already pretty solid.
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Yeah, the goal was not immune but merely resistant, with increasing levels of resistance as it was mastered. I didn't realize that there was some kind of diminishing returns on using magic for social stuff.

The wording of litany of resolve seemed like it was very much focused on the supernatural with the mundane as only a sort of afterthought, not that it was affecting both as much as said magic could allow; with that level simply not having enough influence on the mundane. What with the whole "this also helps somewhat" as if it was a side effect of the anti-supernatural part.

If that's basically already covered, then it's not worth really trying to come up with anything to me. I do think I would like to know what Reinald's thoughts are on our build before this turn vote, since we were told he'd likely point things out to us in the update and that we should think around a 3 turn instead of 2 turn plan, but it's too far gone at this point for things to really change.
 
MagikarpLvl58 said:
Yeah, the goal was not immune but merely resistant, with increasing levels of resistance as it was mastered. I didn't realize that there was some kind of diminishing returns on using magic for social stuff.

The wording of litany of resolve seemed like it was very much focused on the supernatural with the mundane as only a sort of afterthought, not that it was affecting both as much as said magic could allow; with that level simply not having enough influence on the mundane. What with the whole "this also helps somewhat" as if it was a side effect of the anti-supernatural part.
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I'll maybe see about rewording that to make it clearer. 'Helps somewhat' is still accurate, mind you, it's just a more fundamental limit as opposed to one specifically of that Meditation. EDIT: And adjusted the wording to clarify. The effect is identical to what it always was.

And I meant there are diminishing returns on stacking multiple things more than anything, when talking about a separate Meditation and Litany of Resolve. You could get something specialized that's better within its specialty, but it mostly wouldn't stack, just be somewhat better in its area.

MagikarpLvl58 said:
If that's basically already covered, then it's not worth really trying to come up with anything to me. I do think I would like to know what Reinald's thoughts are on our build before this turn vote, since we were told he'd likely point things out to us in the update and that we should think around a 3 turn instead of 2 turn plan, but it's too far gone at this point for things to really change.
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He definitely thinks you should complete hitting 4th Decade, and none of the Training plans this turn are something he'd actively have objections to. Exactly what is advice is will differ a bit depending on which you pick, but all current plans are pretty reasonable from his perspective. They aren't the only reasonable options, but none of them are too out there.
 
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