I'll pop in and say both ShadowJack and Sun Tzu's IWIW's served as inspiration for my own efforts and there are many parts of my presentation that I have derived from their styles. And 32nd Freeze has credited me as inspiration for their thread.
So, uh, congratulations Sun Tzu, your grandbaby is an IWIW thread.
Still working on Episode one of season 3.
Saw into the Spiderverse. It was pretty gosh dang swell.
It's another new hero. Though I don't remember seeing a Chameleon Kwami…
Oh. Yeah that would kind of be the point wouldn't it?
I wonder how much of a direct follow up this will be to Mayura, since Le Collectioneur happened directly as a result of Volpina.
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We open onto what has become a very typical day over the past year(s?) of Marinette's life.
She's running late for school. Possibly slightly later than normal since she has to ask the guy closing the front door of the school to wait for her.
But then we see her get to class (more on that in a moment) so she's actually earlier than average?
Now, the mundane (and probably canon) explanation is that they simply don't lock the front doors once school starts and literally anybody can just walk into the place. This isn't America, so nobody has enough guns to make that a serious problem. So Marinette probably just opens the door and heads on whenever she feels like it. Also, in less than a minute after leaving her front door, since she lives literally across the street from her school and I will never ever be over that.
A more fun explanation is that most days Marinette is locked out, and then has to duck around a corner and turn into Ladybug to go in through the roof. Just the casualness of routinely using your superpowers to break into your school for the utterly mundane purpose of being slightly less tardy than you would otherwise really hits me in the funny bone for some reason. I'm just sitting here cracking up at the entire concept.
But let's go galaxy brain here. Marinette has had her clumsiness and poor scheduling problems since long before Ladybug came into the picture.* Therefore: Marinette knows at least one, possibly multiple, ways of breaking into her school that require no superpowers whatsoever and routinely uses them. They are far more difficult to enact than the Ladybug stratagem would be, and preferably include at least one second story window. Marinette continues to use them because it has become habitual. If someone in the know, such as Tikki, were to point out how much easier it would be to just use Ladybug for this, Marinette would just stare into space for a long moment before deeply facepalming at herself.
*And mostly fixed the former while greatly exacerbating the latter.
And now it's later and we talk about her getting to class. The seating has been rearranged. And it appears the only open seat is the one next to Adrien! Marinette sneaks around the entire room to thank Alya, including Juleka's new seatmate:
Shrek.
Also worth noting: Marinette's top tier stealth skills. She's beauty, she's grace, she's already punched everyone in this room in the face.
So Nino moved up to sit with Alya, meaning that really all that need to be done is have him and Marinette switch seats. Since, as we saw in origins part one the seats aren't actually assigned, this would be simple and clean. (Oh baby) But nearly everyone else has moved as well. Juleka and Rose have switched sides but stayed in the back. Nathaniel has moved up and now shares a seat with Alix. Who used to be sitting with Kim but know he's with Max.
Speaking of Adorable couples, IVAN and Mylene should probably switch seats. Because Kim might be tall enough to see over IVAN's shoulder, but Max sure as hell ain't. Eh, the boy's building Akuma capable A.I. in his spare time. It's not like he actually needs anything they're teaching in this class. School. Entire national education system.
Marinette: I'd like to congratulate you on another excellently executed scheme, Lady Competence. Lady Competence: Wut? Marinette: Convincing everyone to switch seats so I can sit next to Adrien without drawing attention to the move. I assume you have a plan to help me focus in class so I don't flunk out fail at life and never be able to afford a house and three point five
kids and a hamster with Adrien? Lady Competence, internally: Okay, first of all, Adrien is rich as balls you'll never have to work a day in your life if you marry him. Second of all you have a decently established reputation as a fashion designer already and that in no way is dependent on
earning a high school degree to claim success in that field, though having it certainly makes many other aspects of life easier. Third of all, The Ladybug Anime and related paraphernalia has seen yet another popularity spike
after the whole Day of Heroes thing. (Thanks again by the way, everything except the Rena Rage parts were awesome.) So the licensing rights from that give you another source of financial security that will last your entire life
and has nothing to do with your high school grades. Alya, externally: Wut? Me no scheme. You sit back of class. Marinette: Why you do dis? Alya: The person joining class today has hearing issues so she gets a seat in the front.
Marinette: And you couldn't arrange to send Chloe to the back of the classroom where no one has to look at her perfect blonde hair lurking in the corner of their eyes all day? Basking in the glow of a summer afternoon, evoking those bygone days of childhood when life was spent running wild through the fields of our ancestral farm. Nothing to hold us down. Or apart. No need to keep up appearances anymore. Just us, and our enjoyment. Sorry, got distracted for a second. You couldn't send that bitch as far away from me as possible? Alya: Delphma likes sitting in the front of the class. So sending Chloe to the back would deprive her of Bourgeois time and you remember what happened last time, right? Marinette: Yup yup good call solid choice very wise never should have questioned you. Alya: And besides, Lilalulelo wanted to sit next to Adrien. And what she wants, she gets. Because she's so kind and brave and sexy and generous and kind and giving and honest and it's not weird at all how nobody ever catches on to like even a single one of her lies apparently.
But Marinette doesn't hear anything after that first sentence because she can't hear Alya over the screeching of the Kill Bill soundtrack suddenly invading her mind.
And then… she arrives. And I'm forced to tolerate her on my screen again. Remember back in the earlier parts of season two when I kept yelling that Lila should exist on screen again? I deeply regret getting exactly what I asked for.
Hisssss
(Miss Bustier, what even is that face?) I now kin Marinette.
Marinette: So you have a hearing problem now. That never came up during any of your previous interactions with the class. Lila: Lies. Marinette: Pointing out inaccuracies in the lies. Lila: More lies. Marinette *gets distracted from pointing out inaccuracies because Lila is flirting with Adrien.*
*roll 1d20 for diplomacy to get Lila moved to the back.*
Result: 1. Critical failure. Miss Bustier: Marinette, since you don't have any serious, horrible, hearing issues that are truly inspirational to overcome, unlike Lila's tinnitus in one ear, you can sit in the back. Where you belong. Meanwhile, Lila can just go ahead and touch Adrien constantly despite how clearly uncomfortable he is. Marinette: This makes me angry. Hawkmoth: BAZINGA!!!! Nathalie: Sir, if you ever say that again I'm taking our wifcicle and leaving you. Hawkmoth: Sorry, it's just I'm finally going to get every other student in Adrien's class and failing to complete the set was really bothering me. I mean, after last week I've gotten everyone else there twice! Nathalie: And the Bourgeois three times. Actual quote from Hawkmoth's actual mouth: Fly away and evilize this Angry Highschool Girl!
With like, emphasis on every first syllable and all the gravitas the VA can muster. It's so fucking silly and I love it.
And then, just moments before the Akuma can infect Marinette and Hawkmoth wins everything forever, Miss Bustier starts class and Marinette is immediately too focused on classwork to be angry. The akuma is unable to penetrate Marinette's dense skull.
Hawkmoth: [censor bleeps interspersed with incomprehensible angrish]
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Later we cut to the Lunch room. Where everyone is fawning over Lila and her sprained wrist, running around grabbing her food for her and standing attentively around her while she sits and lies to them.
Marinette is mad again. Alya is confused, because only Marinette's miraculous can fight off the narrative warping powers of the Mary Sue self-insert that Lila is so clearly parodying.
Even Delphma? Really!?
Nathaniel is a wise and good boy, eating all alone.
I can't decide if it's funnier to say that Alix's family is far enough ahead of their times to transcend the need for petty matters such as food, or to claim that Alix is in this picture next to Lilalulelo it's just that she's too small to be seen. Therefore, have both.
Because Alix is really really tiny. And also her family owns/lives in the Louvre. That isn't relevant to the current situation, it's just something that no one should ever be allowed to forget. It haunts my waking hours, and so too should it haunt yours.
Actual quote out of Marinette's actual mouth, to Alya and Nino: All right, I'll tell you everything.
Fifteen quataloos she's not about to tell them that she's Ladybug. Any takers? Any at all?
Yeah, didn't think so.
But way more importantly than that, Marinette drops some time line info on us.
Lila only "showed up to classes for one day, right after summer break." As far as I can tell from a quick google search, French Summer breaks work just like American summer breaks. As in, they last for about three months, and mark the transition between school years.
Marinette became Ladybug on the first day of a school year. Volpina happened after summer break. I.E. after the start of Marinette's second year as Ladybug. Tbh, I'd always pegged Volpina as happening somewhere around March or so. Towards the end of the school year, but not excessively so.
But no. Marinette's one year anniversary came and went within the first season, and it happened entirely offscreen. And it's been month(s?) since Volpina.
Master Fuck-up let these kids run around for over a year with absolutely no support or outside help or further information than whatever hints Hawkmoth or their Kwami accidently dropped. And even when he was forced to interact with Marinette he still left Adrien to sit and spin for however long it was between Volpina and Shyren. The more I learn the more I despise this man.
Which, of course, is nothing compared to how much Marinette despises Lila.
So she's telling Alya and Nino all about how Lila lied to Adrien about being friends with Ladybug. And Alya just asked Marinette to cite her sources on that one.
Since I don't have nearly enough quataloos to cover the alternative, I'm going to go ahead and write that Marinette totally chickens out and does not confess her secret identity in the middle of a crowded cafeteria.
Since she has no way whatsoever to get Ladybug to declare she has no idea who Lila is, Marinette just throws a napkin at her.
At Lila. Not Ladybug. Obviously.
Lila catches the napkin with her "sprained wrist."
Marinette is triumphant, until Lila belatedly cries out in pain and explains how she's previously seen someone's eyeball get gouged out by the corner of a napkin, and she just saved Max's life.
… That's not how any of this works. Not sprained wrists, not eyeball gouging*, and certainly not napkins!
*Citation: I read Worm, and that's not how Taylor does it.
So as Max, smartest, most anal about facts and statistics person in the entire city adjusts his thick, heavy, protective glasses, what do you think he says?
Cause I bet you fifty quataloos that it ain't gonna be calling her on her bullshit.
Oh hey look at that, everyone loves her even more now.
God.
Fucking.
Dammit!
Can you at least make her lies slightly believable writers? And not force everyone except Marinette to be a complete thundering dunce around Lila? Please? Really?
A fucking napkin to the eyeball.
Reallty?
Can Lila have some aspect to her personality aside from literally always lying about everything?
Gods she was so much more interesting before we knew anything about her.
I mean, FUCK, this is so dumb. This is garbage. Literal, nigh-incomprehensible garbage. How am I suppose to invest anything in these characters if they're all gonna be this fucking stupid at the drop of a hat.
There's no consistency. In anything! It's just whatever the writers need in that exact moment to move the plot forward. That's no way to write! That's no way to draw people in!
Like, sure, this is a kids show. But that doesn't acutally mean you have to dumb things down that far. I can think of -Several- -Excellent- -Shows- that do not do this thing. (Gravity Falls, Star Vs., Big Butt Sluts Vol. 9, Steven Universe, New Netflix She-ra, etc.)
And then this hot mess with it's eveball gouging napkins freaking out people that average at least one near death experience a week. This is the group that has started running towards the akuma attacks, instead of away. And we're supposed to buy that Max is aftradi of FUCKINGI NAPKINAS? Son of a bitch!
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Much, much later
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Fine. Whatever. Moving on.
Marinette storms off from the cafeteria to go hide in the bathroom like an adult.
Then Lila shows up. Joy.
They talk, and eventually Lila finally admits that she is fact a lying liar immune to pants being on fire because she's built up an immunity through sheer repetition of exposure.
Boy, I sure hope one of the 15 cellphones Marinette currently has on her was recording that.
When Lila fails to win over Marinette's compliance via dangling Adrien in front of her (whoo! Character growth! Season 1 Marinette would have absolutely agreed at first and then backpedaled on it later.) she switches gears directly to threatening to destroy Marinette's social life.
So Lila's just like straight up a sociopath right? Like, that is the vibe I'm getting from this scene. All "I just tell people what they want to hear." And being superficially charming, and criminally adept, and there's like zero sense of guilt or empathy for Marinette's struggles. I think we may have a second character that's morally worse than the Bourgeois. (Mom Bourgeois remains the absolute worst, btw.)
This would also work as a meme format. (Lila: My responsibilities, Marinette: Me. It would also work with Marinette labeled as "my responsibilities" and Lila as "shitposting on the internet")
Lila leaves with a menacing laugh, and Marinette upgrades from sulking in the bathroom to sulking in a bathroom stall.
Hawkmoth is apparently unaware of her current location, so his utter glee at this turn of events is only accidentally super creepy.
All our angsty hopes and dreams are dangled before our eyes.
Marinette chases away the evil butterfly with the power of positive thinking.
Meanwhile, Lila hits on Adrien and he calls her out that he also knows she's a lying liar immune to pants being on fire because she's built up an immunity through sheer repetition of exposure. But he's still willing to be friends with her and stuff and he encourages her to start being more honest with everybody.
Lila accuses Adrien of being a superhero and storms off angerly. Adrien is bluescreening as he tries to come up with a denial about how he's totally not Chat Noir and it's crazy that Lila would even suggest that.
Meanwhile, Hawkmoth will take what he can get. Volpina rides again! I assume.
WOW, Lila literally just grabbed the akuma out of the air and stuffed it in her earring. As much as I hate her personality, she's really interesting from the standpoint of "Character actively willing to be akumatized and help Hawkmoth cause she just hates the heroes that much."
Anyway, I'm just going to link back to the Heroes Day episode and assume everything plays out in exactly the same way as it did last time.
Good review, see you next week, hopefully with less Lila.
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Finnnnnnnnne.
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There is a nice moment when Lila is the one making the sales pitch to Hawkmoth instead of the other way around. Hawky sounds genuinely fond when he says he remembers her and gives her a different set of powers.
So not only can Hawkmoth reinfect people with Akuma's, but he can just straight up give them entirely different powersets as well.
Moth Kwami OP PLS NERF!
Next scene is an entirely normal looking Lila bursting in on Adrien and recanting everything she said in the scene before it, even promising to never lie again. Then she kisses him on the cheek and Chameleon shapeshifts into the only being worthy of Adrien's majestic form.
Adrien.
Adrien is knocked the fuck out, and Liladrien is just like "Whoops, I lied."
Okay, so assuming she can just turn back into Lila as she wishes this is a very interesting akuma, because she looks completely normal so there's no way to tell that she is an Akuma unless you catch her in the act.
It's a pity this episode's first half has so thoroughly soured me on it's entire existence, or else I might get really into this. Also the ruse can now only last until Adrien wakes up, so that saps a lot of the potential as well.
And NOPE NEVERMIND NOT EVEN GONNA BE REMOTELY SUBTLE.
Liladrien steals Nino's hat, declares she is returning to her rightful home at the top of the Eiffel tower and starts super leaping across the rooftops like a bamf gazelle.
Now, obviously Marinette transformed right after she almost got akumatized, so Ladybug is right behind … let's go with her, for the sake of ease.
Along the way to the tower, Liladrien bodychecks an entire city bus, sending it swerving towards a Lady and the thing that comes after love and marriage.
So Chameleon confirmed for a very physically strong akuma, and also Lila confirmed for attempted baby murder. She really is entirely without redeeming features, isn't she?
Blah blah, assorted jackassery at the tower, Ladybug and Liladrien fight. Liladrien keeps trying to land a kiss on Ladybug during the fight. So that's probably giving Marinette flashbacks to Zombizou. Can I go watch Zombizou again? Cause that was a much better episode than this.
Anyway, Ladybug beats Liladrien down and rips Nino's hat in half. Since for some reason she thought that was the akuma object despite the fact that she saw Liladrien steal it from Nino. While Ladybug was distracted, Liladrien somehow just fucking disappeared.
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We cut away from the fight to go back to Plagg.
Who is low-key freaking the fuck out.
He eventually reaches the conclusion that the only way to break an enchanted sleep is with a kiss, and that he's going to have to be the one to do it.
Fortunately (sadly?) Adrien wakes up just before he can upgrade from his first gay kiss to his first gay interspecies kiss. I don't think it'd technically be bestiality. Deusality?
Whatever. Claws out, Chat in. Etc.
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Tracking a supervillain is hard when they're a shapeshifter.
Lila has assumed the guise of a young boy named Quinten*. Lilqainten almost gets the drop on Ladybug and steals her form/knocks her the fuck out, but there's a last second Chat Noir interrupt.
Things that have kissed or tried to kiss Adrien this episode: A sociopath. Himself. A magic cat spirit. A little kid.
Stop molesting Adrien 2kalways!
Anyway, Chat Noir is out of the fight, and Ladybug must now face an enemy who possess all the powers of CHAT NOIR! How can our peerless heroine possibly get out of this pickle!
And here's where I would link Copycat if I wasn't feeling lazy. Or Zombizou. Or Heartbreaker. Or Puppeteer. Or Princess Fragrance. Or any of the other times I've forgotten or happened off screen.
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Ladybug runs away to gain some distance from Liladrien(Chat Noir form), because reasons I guess.
Hawkmoth is finally, finally smart enough to order his akuma to just steal the incapacitated Chat Noir's miraculous, but Liladrien(Chat Noir's form) is too pissed off to listen and goes charging off after Ladybug instead.
This is going to reflect poorly on her employee review. I'd say it'd cost her her spot as employee of the month, but let's be honest. It's Nathalie. It's literally always Nathalie.
Once she's successfully lured Liladrien(Chat Noir form) back to her rightful home at the top of the Eiffel Tower, Ladybug summons a deus ex Tikki in the form of Off-brand Ladybug souvenir store junk!
Specifically, a t-shirt. Cause you can't actually trademark polkadots.
My immediate thought is that Ladybug turns herself into a t-shirt ninja, and thus becomes immune to getting kissed. Because she's clearly proven herself superior to both Liladrien and Chat Noir in hand to hand combat on multiple previous occasions, so a straight fight with Liladrien(Chat Noir form) should be comfortably within her wheelhouse.
Ladybug wraps the shirt around her arm, and I assume it's going to be used as ablative armor against the cataclysm. Which would be nonsense if that was what happened, since cataclysm has clearly effected multiple parts of what's considered a single object before, so a t-shirt should provide zero defense against it.
But instead the Ladybug redirects the cataclysm into the floor, and then tricks Liladrien(Chat Noir form) into kissing the shell of a clam. Which forces her to transform into an clam.
I guess. That doesn't seem right since she just kissed the shell instead of the actual meat of the clam but whatever. It means this fight is over and the episode can end faster so I'm all for it.
Also Chameleon doesn't seem to have any way to cancel the transformation from a clam to turn back into Lila. So if someone were to safely store this clam, in say, Master Fu's refrigerator, Hawkmoth wouldn't be able to make any new akuma and the threat would be dealt with forever!*
But we can't have happy endings on this show so that's not what they do.
*Hawkmoth can take away an Akuma's power whenever he feels like it, leaving Lila to suddenly revert to normal teenager size while locked in Master Fu's fridge. Hope the old bastard has fun explaining that one to the police.
Instead Chameleon is defeated by the power of *drumroll* a professional waitress!
What? Did you think I was joking?
Ladybug politely hands over the akuma to the lady manning the food counter at the top of the Eiffel Tower (also there's a food counter at the top of the Eiffel Tower that serves clams. Don't worry about it.), the lady politely accepts it, and then politely jams the utensil into Liclam's mouth and forces it wide open. Then Ladybug reaches over and pinches Lila's precious pearl betwixt her latex clad fingers and I'm going to stop describing this scene before the NSA bursts down my door.
De-evilize etc.
Huh. We get a shot of Nino being insecure without his hat. That's kinda cute. Also Alya forwent chasing down Ladybug to get pics of her fighting Adrien in order to comfort him. Awwww.
P.S. That scene did more to sell me on the depth of their relationship than the previous two seasons combined.
Ladybug offers a truce with Lila which seems kinda weird to me since Marinette was given no reason to forgive her and Lila has in no way retracted her threats to ruin her life. It's like the forgive people and give them another chance to be good Aesop that got crammed down her throat at the end of Zombizou was a terrible idea?
But no, Lila is entirely onboard with this and is "honored to call Ladybug her friend." And responses to Ladybug's Mr. Rogers moment by giving her word to stop lying.
I BELIEVE HER COMPLETELY!
HOW WONDERFUL THAT LILA HAS FOREGONE HER EVIL WAYS AND NOW SHALL TRULY BECOME THE PARAGON OF RIGHTEOUSNESS THAT WE HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN HER TO BE. THIS MESSAGE NOT IN ANYWAY COERCED OR PAYED FOR BY LILA, LILA'S FANS, OR ANY LILA BRAND SUBSIDIARIES. REALLY. YOU CAN TRUST US. HONESTY.
(Fucking hell.)
STRANGELY HAWKMOTH DOES NOT BELIEVE THE PILLAR OF HONESTY AND TRUSTWORTHINESS THAT IS LILA AND HAS A FORESHADOWING MONOLOGUE ABOUT HOW SHE'LL PROBABLY BE USEFUL AGAIN IN THE FUTURE OR SOME SHIT. WHICH IS NONSENSE, BECAUSE LILA IS NOW AND ALWAYS TOO GOOD AND PURE TO BE TURNED INTO AN AKUMA. THIS MESSAGE NOT IN ANYWAY COERCED OR PAYED FOR BY LILA, LILA'S FANS, OR ANY LILA BRAND SUBSIDIARIES. REALLY. YOU CAN TRUST US. HONESTY.
(It's also nonsense because she's never managed to do anything useful for him before, so why start now?)
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JESUS FUCKING CHRIST IT GOT WORSE
JOKE CANCELD I AM NOW TOO FURIOUS FOR HUMOR.
Marinette has a perfect chance to call Lila out when she fucks up mentioning which ear has a hearing problem.
Adrien fucking stops her and encourages Marinette to let Lila keep lying to everyone. Because and I FUCKING QUOTE "Making a bad guy suffer has never turned them into a good guy."
Okay conscientious objector Chat, I'll be sure to remind you of this the next time you try and stop and akuma from hurting people.
Because GOODNESS KNOWS THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE PEOPLES BEHAVIOR IS TO MAKE SURE THEY SUFFER NO CONSEQUENCES WHATSOEVER FROM THEIR ACTIONS. ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. YOU MUST GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE SURE TO STOP ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING TO THEM. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DISCOURAGE BAD ACTIONS. BY ENABALING THE fuck! OUT OF THEM!
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No one else picks up on Lila's gaffe.
Adrien goes to sit next to Marinette in the back rather than sit with Lila.
Marinette is too distracted sitting next to Adrien. Miss Bustier puts her up front next to Lila.
Lila terrible acts surprised that her hearing problems are magically fucking gone and moves to sit next to Adrien.
Alya moves next to Marinette. Adrien moves next to Nino. Everybody moves back to their original seats. Nathaniel winds up stuck with Lila next to him.
This is cute.
If only I weren't so UTTERLY INCANDESCENT with rage.
Also, you two were already sitting next to each other in your new seats. Why you both looking like the other one just came back from the war? This is some unnecessary cuteness and you keep it up right now you hear me?
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Lila threatens Marinette again after school. Marinette now knows what Lila's insides look like, and is thus utterly immune to her threats. I'm sure allowing a 'master manipulator'* such as Lila complete access to your social circle will in no way have any negative effects. It's not like the entire city or Paris depends on you never having a bad day or anything. Not like her incidental effects on your life within 24 hours of spending time with you almost pushed you over the edge or anything. This is fine.
*I joke, because her lies are blatantly obvious to the viewers, but in-universe she basically has mind control powers.
Finally, finally, an ending.
Final thoughts:
FUCK.
It's not even Lila herself who pisses me off. It's everyone interacting with Lila that's making me mad.
Everyone except Marinette and Adrien are fucking tripping all over themselves to lick Lila's boot at the slightest provocation. It's not like she even has to put any fucking effort into it. Everybody just loves Lila automatically like she's blasting Princess Fragrance perfume 24/7. And then there's Adrien the Enabler. Wow. Just fucking wow.
Done.
Also, I know the word gets thrown around a lot, but I think Lila might actually be a sociopath. Like, clinically.
I was planning to do a full analysis blurb with citations and checklist of actually symptoms and shit. but screw putting any more effort into this dumpster fire.
See you next week, and I pray to god Lila just disappears from the narrative till the season finale.
Honestly, there have been a few fanfics where Lila does have a flat out "nobody notices my lies" field going on, because that's the only way to really explain her, because those lies are just so transparently terrible.
IUt's a shame, because other than that she's actually a pretty... Interesting nemesis, in that she's an honestly bad person, rather than someone who had a bad day.
She's arguably worse than Gabrial, who at least has an end goal that is more complex than "fuck everyone elses life up."
Given how terrified people are when they see a butterfly? Not well.
Because GOODNESS KNOWS THE ONLY WAY TO IMPROVE PEOPLES BEHAVIOR IS TO MAKE SURE THEY SUFFER NO CONSEQUENCES WHATSOEVER FROM THEIR ACTIONS. ACTUALLY, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. YOU MUST GO OUT OF YOUR WAY TO MAKE SURE TO STOP ANYTHING FROM HAPPENING TO THEM. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DISCOURAGE BAD ACTIONS. BY ENABALING THE fuck! OUT OF THEM!
Of course, the problem is hat Akuma home in on people who are feeling bad or have bad things happen to them. Given that punishing a bad guy makes them feel bad... It likely results in a bad guy who is now an akuma.
Also, I think that neither Chat nor Ladybug realize the full depth of what their dealing with, being two kids, one upper middle class, one rich, who before this had their main experience with evil being Chloe (which is pretty good). I mean, Lila is straight up "smile at you as you walk down the stairs, right before she shoves and while preparing to convincingly scream at your brock-necked body at the bottom of the stairs." No joke, if this wasn't YA, I'd expect her to end up with a flat up murder attempt.
Like I said before in a spoilerbox: I'm impressed and somewhat scared that they actually managed to sell me on Lila being a genuinely worse person than Chloe.
On everyone buying Lila's lies... well, my headcanon is "everyone can see it on some level, but in-universe they're entertaining lies, so people pretend not to notice. Since most of them aren't aware of Lila's darker side, Marinette calling her out on her bullshit feels less like being an intrepid warrior of truth and more like being the Stop Having Fun Guy."
On Adrien being an enabler... Well. Yeah. I'll chalk it up to naivete on his part, but Adrien does have an unfortunate tendency to rank "don't hurt people" so far above "don't allow people to be hurt" that he keeps treating Chloe's bullying as not that big a deal. I have to wonder if that position would change if he ever got bullied himself.
On Adrien being an enabler... Well. Yeah. I'll chalk it up to naivete on his part, but Adrien does have an unfortunate tendency to rank "don't hurt people" so far above "don't allow people to be hurt" that he keeps treating Chloe's bullying as not that big a deal. I have to wonder if that position would change if he ever got bullied himself.
The problem is that IMO, Adrien is so starved for affection, given his toxic environment, that the fact that Chloe was a childhood freind renders him blind to a lot of stuff. Even if he doesn't say it, the idea of losing her, of losing anyone is terrifying to him and he shies away from it. Marinette is better--but Marinette never had to live in a bedroom that looks more like a luxury prison than a place someone lives.
So I give Adrien a bit of a pass because I think you can argue he has legit mental issues that he hasn't yet handled, though granted, he's a lot better than dad.
(I mean, hell, I have an idea for a fic where they capture Gabrial it all comes out, and suddenly Adrien just fucking loses it, grabs the butterly Miraculous and then Akumaizes the best doctor in all of France to come and look at mom, where his supernaturally empowered skill brings her back. Then he, mom, Marinette and likely Ayla chase Gabrial around Paris with a variety of sharp and/or burning implements.)
(I mean, hell, I have an idea for a fic where they capture Gabrial it all comes out, and suddenly Adrien just fucking loses it, grabs the butterly Miraculous and then Akumaizes the best doctor in all of France to come and look at mom, where his supernaturally empowered skill brings her back. Then he, mom, Marinette and likely Ayla chase Gabrial around Paris with a variety of sharp and/or burning implements.)
Also, I know the word gets thrown around a lot, but I think Lila might actually be a sociopath. Like, clinically.
I was planning to do a full analysis blurb with citations and checklist of actually symptoms and shit. but screw putting any more effort into this dumpster fire.
Well, you know, they haven't been able to do full studies because of my archnemesis, ethical review boards (shakes fist at the heavens) but there is some pretty good case-study evidence, mostly from really shitty Eastern European orphanages, that a lack of affection in the early stages of development drastically increases the odds of developing Anti-social Personality Disorder. So... Probably.
(I mean, hell, I have an idea for a fic where they capture Gabrial it all comes out, and suddenly Adrien just fucking loses it, grabs the butterly Miraculous and then Akumaizes the best doctor in all of France to come and look at mom, where his supernaturally empowered skill brings her back. Then he, mom, Marinette and likely Ayla chase Gabrial around Paris with a variety of sharp and/or burning implements.)
One of the problems, with both lila and Chloe, is the fact that this series isn't designed to be watched in ny special order, at least within a season.
And that means you can't relaly "slow burn" their development. YHou've got to have it out there, and have it resolved in the context of a single episode. Now say, if it didn't, then things would be much easier-- if you expectd episodes to be watched in order then you could introduce Lila in episode X and between X and X+N episodes, show her lies and show how she gradually brings the class around to her. Which is much easier to take than "hey, Lila is actually an In Nomine Balseraph rocking out her lying resonance."
But again, the very nature of the series organization militates against that.
Well, obviously it's gonna be someone's daddy-o. And since we've already had Chloe, Mylene, and Adrien's dads getting Akumafied, that only leaves… Alix's dad!
Or I guess they could introduce a different classmate's father.
Those are the only possible options. It's not like there are any other main characters that have FATHER's that have yet to be akumatized after two whole seasons or anything. So really, there are no other possible explanations for who will be the akuma this episode.
Given Anarka seems to be a single mother to Juleka and Luuka, I vote we introduce Rose's single father and then make him extremely shippable with Juleka's mom. And thus the main thrust of the episode will be reverse parent trapping them so Juleka and Rose don't accidentally end up as step-sisters. Let's call him something thematic like… Fascisto.
Now, as for the other half of the title: Garou.
Presumably it's not a reference to French Canadian singer Garou.
Instead, I bet it's a reference to Garourumon from Digimon.
Those are the only possible options. It's not like Loup-Garou is the French version of a werewolf or anything. So really, there are no other possible explanations for who will be the akuma this episode.
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The episode opens with a deleted scene from Gigatitan. Because I don't remember the giant baby wandering that far away from the Eiffel Tower. Like, he's right outside of Marinette's house. So that's like… a whole three blocks!
But then Ladybug and Chat Noir show up and Chat Noir is flirting up a storm and Ladybug has a moment where she's romantically attracted to the lips of a giant billboard (Adrien's). So if this is a dream sequence or a flashback or whatever it's from Ladybug's point of view.
But currently the most likelyexplanation seems to be that Hawkmoth has akumatized the same damn baby for the third fucking time. For some reason. Like what the hell man? You did it the first time on accident and spent most of the fight getting frustrated with how the baby was too young to actually understand your instructions. So why do it again? Was it another accident? This baby just like akuma catnip or something? Is it a different baby? I mean, I don't want to be racist, but all babies do look basically the same to me. Is it just that Hawkmoth really likes watching babies get punched? Cause I feel like that might be something he'd do.
Anyway, Ladybug lucky charms it up and gets a giant plastic doughnut for her troubles. And I mean giant. The weight of it nearly crushes her, and she's running around with Kwami strength. Gigatitan takes the bait immediately, but then realizes it's just plastic and he's hungry… for blood. And then he tosses the doughnut into the top floor of the neighboring building.
Marinette's building. Into Marinette's room of Marinette's house. While her parents watch it happen. Boy it's a good thing Ladybug's powers fix everything afterwards or else she'd have been real annoyed with herself later. But since her parents are two of the five people in Paris that don't know who Ladybug is, they're a bit freaked. TOM goes charging up the stairs to assure himself of his daughter's safety, and all I can say is that it's a good thing Hawkmoth isn't catalyst'd up right now because TOM would definitely get aku- maaaaa …. tized.
Oh No.
Oh no no no no, I've made a terrible miscalculation. You can't do this to me Ass-truck. I'm not emotionally prepared!
Sabine is obviously the one who gets akumatized this episode and I'm not ready for that yet!
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But we'll just have to deal with Sabine's despair when it comes, for now, TOM is saving his daughter.
He runs up stairs, ignoring Gigatitan punching a hole through his house, and
Hold on, wait a second. Let me check my notes real quick.
(running up stairs, fight happening outside, giant monster bursts through wall as character turns corner, after brief stumble monster is ignored to continue climbing.)
Son of a bitch this is just another fucking Skyrim port.
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Anyway, Tom gets through to Marinette's room just as the fight ends and everything is put back together properly. Which means the room is perfectly clean when he finds Marinette's decapitated head. Awkward.
Also a false alarm, since it's just a fake Marinette made to help her hide her secret double life of violence and performance enhancing 'cookies'.
Outside, it apparently took TOM a whole entire five minutes to climb three flights of stairs, because Ladybug is down to only one spot on her earring and it looks pretty mad about still being there. She hands the baby (confirmed to be the same one, and implied not to be the first time he's been reakumatized) to Chat and flips up to the roof to de-transform.
Since she has compulsively stolen the baby's pacifier* Chat Noir follows her after a short delay. Specifically, about the amount of time it takes her to change back into civilian form. And so Chat Noir finds Marinette holding the baby's pacifier not thirty seconds after Ladybug went in that direction to detransform holding the baby's pacifier.
*Clearly the closest thing a baby has to a cell phone.
Chat Noir: I've gained many strange and wonderous powers over the course of my superhero career. Most recent and strangest among them being basic pattern recognition. Marinette: Listen Partner I don't know what you mean my dear Chatton. CN: This isn't the first time I've seen you right after Ladybug says she's going to detransform. Marinette: Okay but this is literally my house. Where I live. CN: Fair point. Guess I have no further questions. Marinette: Excellent, now here, baby Augustus Emperor of Rome needs his pacifier back. CN: Wait! Wait hold on. Something's not right here. How… did you… Marinette: *sweats* CN: Know what Augustus wants so easily!? He can't talk he's just a baby! M: Well, I babysit kids on the regular, though less so over the last [exact time frame of Ladybug's career], but still- CN: Nope! It's clearly magic, which means that you're… M: In love with you! *goes in for the hug of distraction*
Which means when TOM comes up to the roof he sees this: I'll take Awkward ways to find out your daughter has a son for $5,673
Meanwhile, Marinette and Chat see this:
CAPTION DAILY DOUBLE DOUBLE DOUBLE!
TOM.exe has crashed, please reboot.
So, this is how Chat Noir dies*
This would be much freakier if they didn't know he was Marinette's dad.
TOM's mustache shows what he was up to before the akuma attack.**
He's too freaking big to fit through the freaking trap door holy shizz that's hilarious.
TOM-in-a-box! Much less scary than Jack-in-a-box.
*To thunderous applause.
**Crack Cocaine.
… actually, more thoughts on the Crack Cocaine crack at the end of the episode.
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Surprisingly, TOM approves. Which I guess a superhero would be a good match for your kid if you aren't worried about the danger aspects of that lifestyle.
TOM invites Chat over for breakfast tomorrow(Sunday). Chat is initially going to refuse because he knows it's a bad idea, but his resistance collapses immediately when Tom mentions he's making macaroons. Seriously, those things are like crack.
cocaine.
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Chat rushes off to return the baby home, and then he drops a line I call bullshit one.
"It's the first time a girl has confessed her love for me."
BULL!
He gets love confessions all the time. Even if I'm to somehow believe he's never gotten one as Chat Noir somehow he's still definitely gotten multiple as Adrien.
So maybe it's more like: First time a girl I know as a person and don't actively dislike has confessed her love to me.
Stupidest reveal plot, Adrien just shows up tomorrow in his civilian form.
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Marinette is freaking out about this ridiculous idea that she's in love with Chat Noir.
TOM is the world's most precious cinnamon roll. I love this man so much and am so scared for him. But like, he is geeking out about their relationship and when questioned can't fathom Chat Noir not being in love with Marinette back because how could someone possible not love Marinette.
Meanwhile, Adrien is a little surprised to find out Marinette is in love with Chat Noir. He didn't think he was her type.
Plag just wants to eat cheese in a bakery.
Adrien launches into a Shakespearian monologue about his love for Ladybug is true and cannot be swayed even by this extensive listing of Marinette's personal charms and the promise of unlimited access to her father's macaroons*.
*Seriously, those things are like crack.
Plagg just points out polyamory is an entirely legitimate strategy and the only thing standing between them and delicious delicious bakery cheese is Adrien's mononormative biases. I feel like Plagg maybe doesn't know how bakeries work. (And also he knows LB and Mari are the same person, but he can't actually say that.)
Adrien decides to attend, but only so that he can let them all down gently. I'd say that that scenario is super obviously going to end in an Akumatization, but honestly? Not going would produce basically the same risk, and he wouldn't be immediately on hand to deal with it, so I can't fault Adrien for this one.
Also Marinette isn't actually in love with him, so him politely turning her down is not going to get the reaction he expects. Hopefully he offers to be her friend and she is 500% okay with that because I am a huge sucker for MariChat brotp friendship feels.
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Next morning
TOM is superhyped about this meal. It continues to give me the supersads.
Marinette is confident that Chat Noir won't show up because he's in love with Ladybug. She is weirdly confident and comfortable with how devoted he is to that love despite her repeated and increasingly strong demands that he stop pursuing her romantically. In fact, she even gets jealous of herself when he does actually show up and gets mad that he could apparently be interested in anyone besides Ladybug.
Sending some mixed signals there Maribug. It's not a good look on you.
Meanwhile, Adrien isn't scheduled to eat with his father again until Thursday. For a grand total of 15 minutes. What, Gabriel too busy evilizing babies to sit down for a meal? Jackass.
Plagg is bad at humans, and Adrien isn't much better. So Chat shows up with a rose* in order to make the breakup easier. Somehow.
*Not, sadly, a Rose. She would have made everything much more cheerful. If only due to her confusion at getting kidnapped by one of Paris's heroes to help him breakup with her classmate.
So the canon fake dating Au begins.
And we can't get any shenanigans out of it because TOM is being creepily supportive and excited about the whole thing. All that bigness and not a single ounce of chill anywhere to be found.
It's a whole sequence of cringe comedy of TOM being overbearing/the kids being awkward and I cannot into cringe humor.
I do like two parts. One, TOM brings up the pair of them getting a hamster, just like Marinette always does. And two, Chat Noir in the background just steadily going to town on the pastries as he listens to TOM embarrass everyone in the room.
Eventually Sabine gets TOM to chill long enough for Chat to speak. And he gives an actually really good and kind break-up speech to Marinette. Repeatedly mentioning how awesome she is and how flattered he is, but regretfully he can't reciprocate because he loves Ladybug too much.
Marinette is very very pleased to hear that confession of love to Ladybug for reasons she will not examine later, but then realizes she has to sell the act and goes too far in pretending to be sad about being turned down.
The dinner party splits up, and TOM is very sad/angry about how hurt his daughter appeared to be. And we all know what happens to sangry people in Ladybug Paris. But more importantly, for all those people into size difference ships and whatnot, your faves could never.
Hamster/banana pic
Seriously, her entire hand goes around one of his fingers. Him sitting on the floor is STILL probably taller than her. This is absurd and I love them so much.
So Sabine is like, right there when TOM gets akumatized. That's gotta sting.
And then we go Jack and the Beanstalk with it? Papa-Garou and Marinette get pulled way up into the sky on a giant thorny beanstalk of doom. We don't get to see what Papa-Garou looks like yet, but we do get to see Marinette get separated from Tikki.
Chat rushes back in to save the day, and has a nice little moment with Sabine. It's a pity that Marinette didn't handle the breakup better, or I could see/read/write endless fanfic about Chat Noir(but not Adrien yet) getting adopted by the Dupain-Chengs and Marinette just having to deal with that entire thing. (And, of course, falling in love with Chat Noir for real.)
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Anyway, the top of the beanstalk is a gaint tangle of thorns. Marinette and Tikki try and find each other inside of it, while Chat Noir faces off against Papa Garou.
Who I think actually shrank a little.
He looks kinda like a god of war villain, ya know? It's the thorn chains around his wrist that do it.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't get the connection between the werewolf thing and the giant plant thing and the being a baker thing. Like wolf and beanstalk are classic fairy tale things, but the big bad wolf isn't actually part of the Jack and the Beanstalk story as far as I remember. The Giant, sure! But not a wolf. And like I said, Tom is clearly shorter now that he's hulked out. (Complete with torn pants in a pleasing Hulk-green)
But I don't see how either of those relate to him being a baker in real life.
And I can easily see the thorn castle in the sky being about protecting/isolating Marinette, but how does being a wolf tie into it?
Thematically speaking, this akuma is a mess and Hawkmoth clearly needs to spend more time eating with his son.
I can't guarantee it'd improve the creative process but clearly, it can't make it much worse.
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Chat Noir and Papa Garou talk a lot as they fight, and Chat Noir does a much better job of getting through to Papa Garou then is normally possible with akuma. Not enough to stop fighting, obviously, but Papa Garou gets way less aggressively murderous as the fight goes on.
Meanwhile, the magic prison keeps Tikki and Marinette from meeting up, but inadvertently leads Marinette straight to TOM's akuma object. (Chat's rose-not-Rose) There are defenses, but Marinette's an accomplished superhero by now and doesn't actually need powers anymore in order to be a badass.
Marinette ain't got time for this damsel in distress nonsense. Fuck you, I'll save myself!
And also since Chat Noir is getting his face beat in by Papa Garou, she'll also save Chat Noir.
And since TOM is brainwashed by evil, she'll also save Papa Garou at the same damn time.
Only problem: She's saved them several hundred feet up in the air, and no akuma means no giant plant to keep them there safely.
More sudden death freefall transformation time!
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Ladybug purifies the butterfly, but for some reason doesn't just hit the reset button. Given previous precedent, that should just teleport everyone safely to the ground.
But no, we have to be dramatic.
The character's talk freely during free fall. Which is not actually possible. Wind at terminal velocity is LOUD.
But whatever.
Utterly unnecessary Lucky Charm go!
Try saying that three times fast
The toy boat is actually a life sized boat.
Which Ladybug then has Chat Noir cataclysm everything except the mast and sail.
So that the three of them can construct a giant three person hangglider mid-freefall.
There are so many reasons none of this would work that I don't even know where to start.
So we're just going to move right along, because the writers/animators clearly decided to go full looney toons, so there's no point in trying to figure anything out.
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Land, Miraculous Ladybug, everybody except Marinette rushes off to find Marinette, Marinette rushes off to be Marinette.
Marinette affirms Chat Noir's feelings are valid and he has a right to feel them (hopefully without encouraging the toxicity of Frozer or Glaciator) and offers to be friends with him instead.
Chat Noir is 500% down with having more friends. Also, instead of thinking she was Ladybug, he claims that he was going to say he thought Marinette was his number one fan at the start of the episode.
It's painful how dumb these Pandas are.
TOM is now happy again, and offers to help teach Chat Noir how to bake crossiants in order to seduce Ladybug. Though he wonders if his secret ingredient* will even be effective on Ladybug.
*Crack Cocaine.
Also, I like to imagine he'd be too busy for it if Chat actually took him up on the offer, leaving it in Marinette's capable hands. To cook food with the guy that has a crush on her. So that he can give it to her later as a gift.
Has anyone written that fanfic yet? Cause I'd read it.
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Final Thoughts:
Mundane side: Marinette clearly needs to sort through some issues about her relationship with Chat Noir. Because the big thrust of this episode beside secret identity shenanigans was her getting jealous of Chat Noir appearing interested in someone besides Ladybug. And if she still doesn't want to date Chat Noir ever, than that's just a dick move.
Magical Side: Chat Noir and Papa Garou are both operating on a deep love for Marinette, though Papa Garou's protectiveness has clearly been twisted to extremes. So the pair actually understand each other very well and if Chat Noir hadn't been the exact boy to trigger this akumafication Papa Garou may have actually taken a fall so that Chat Noir could take over protecting Marinette for him. Thematically his powers were still a mess though.
This episode felt like popcorn. Fun, light, a bit of crunch, but overall it's mostly empty air. Not much actually happened here. But after the pain of last episode, this was a nice palate cleanser. And also I didn't have to deal with too much TOM angst, so that's nice.
But seriously this episode was so shallow, that in retrospect, it leaves my review feeling really empty. But the only interesting plot thread would be Marinette's complicated response to the idea of Chat Noir loving someone besides Ladybug. But I don't trust the writers to actually handle this in any reasonable way. And given how Glaciator and Frozor seemed to be largely supportive of Chat's actions there, I'm just really leery of any LadyChat content that canon gives us.
Okay, so the Crack Cocaine joke sent me down a rabbit hole. Chasing the white rabbit, as it were. So, my initial thought was "There's a reason everyone says he's the best baker in Paris." With the implication he was lacing his products with actual cocaine and that's why it's so popular. Been then my mental voice put a weird twist on "baker" that turned it into a euphemism for making/dealing drugs.
So drug dealer AU where the bakery is a front for TOM and Sabine's drug running operation. Operated in close partnership with Don Cesaire, of course. You could make a fun fic out of that without even involving the Kwami. Though it is an extra little fun to have all the canon superheroism happening in the background. Of all the drug dealing.
Or, bonus points, non-magic vigilante Au where the Miraculous Animals are like codenames the kids take as they fight this massive crime empire (may or may not knowing they're trying to take down their own families). Or like animal themed enforcers for the Crime family if you want to go full gangAu with it.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on Miraculous Ladybug Crack fics.
Assuming I can find a video, see you next week for Season 3: Episode 3!
Edit: Oh! I get it. He's a papa wolf.
still doesn't explain the Jack and the Beanstalk stuff though.
Okay, so the Crack Cocaine joke sent me down a rabbit hole. Chasing the white rabbit, as it were. So, my initial thought was "There's a reason everyone says he's the best baker in Paris." With the implication he was lacing his products with actual cocaine and that's why it's so popular. Been then my mental voice put a weird twist on "baker" that turned it into a euphemism for making/dealing drugs.
So drug dealer AU where the bakery is a front for TOM and Sabine's drug running operation. Operated in close partnership with Don Cesaire, of course. You could make a fun fic out of that without even involving the Kwami. Though it is an extra little fun to have all the canon superheroism happening in the background. Of all the drug dealing.
Or, bonus points, non-magic vigilante Au where the Miraculous Animals are like codenames the kids take as they fight this massive crime empire (may or may not knowing they're trying to take down their own families). Or like animal themed enforcers for the Crime family if you want to go full gangAu with it.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on Miraculous Ladybug Crack fics.
Chat Noir and Papa Garou talk a lot as they fight, and Chat Noir does a much better job of getting through to Papa Garou then is normally possible with akuma. Not enough to stop fighting, obviously, but Papa Garou gets way less aggressively murderous as the fight goes on.
I actually love this part! Adrien (somewhat) getting through to the Akuma, and Weredad planning not to keep Marinette rapunzeled forever, but only until a worthy prince manages to defeat him and rescue her. And then Marinette proceeds to rescue herself.
The toy boat is actually a life sized boat.
Which Ladybug then has Chat Noir cataclysm everything except the mast and sail.
So that the three of them can construct a giant three person hangglider mid-freefall.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't get the connection between the werewolf thing and the giant plant thing and the being a baker thing. Like wolf and beanstalk are classic fairy tale things, but the big bad wolf isn't actually part of the Jack and the Beanstalk story as far as I remember. The Giant, sure! But not a wolf. And like I said, Tom is clearly shorter now that he's hulked out. (Complete with torn pants in a pleasing Hulk-green)
My guess is that they worked out a really good "Hey, he's huge, we'll make him a giant and have the cloud-castle represent his protectiveness" bit and then someone high up insisted that he had to be a wolf for some reason. Or possibly the other way around, with the wolf part first but then they couldn't think of anything to do with that, so they just did their own thing.
Okay, so the Crack Cocaine joke sent me down a rabbit hole. Chasing the white rabbit, as it were. So, my initial thought was "There's a reason everyone says he's the best baker in Paris." With the implication he was lacing his products with actual cocaine and that's why it's so popular.
Also, Rex, fair warning...
While the episode that's coming up is OK, the one after that...
...is frankly terrible. As in, "this being the clip show episode isn't even the main reason it's bad" terrible. More like, "we spend the episode asking the question of whether things ever change around here, and ultimately, our lips say yes, but everything that happens says no".
Hey @Rex looking through the thread again I realized that nobody mentioned this. In the Christmas special you expressed confusion and a breaking of SOD that all these people were up and having a meal at 1 in the morning on Christmas. This is Réveillon, a traditional French (and other places) Christmas meal held, in fact, shortly after Midnight Mass. Or around 1 AM.
Just got back from a long week-end in Paris. Made sure to visit the area surrounding the Eiffel Tower (didn't get on the tower because I didn't want to spend time waiting in line).
I assure you, this thread was very much on my mind at the time. :lol
Well I just had a sort of depressing realization about this series that I think needs to be shared. At some point somebody has to nake a PSA/educational video for small children to inform them on what to do in an Akuma attack. What's more they have to also make sure to reasure the kids that "Little Timmy" will be fine once Ladybug and Chat Noir defeat the akuma and that "Timmy" wasn't responsible for their actions as an akuma so you shouldn't be mad at them. Because Hawkmoth is 100% willing to target these kids and the adults need to reassure them that if they do become an akuma everything is going to be okay.
