So that's Maxwell Lord ruled out. But the tragedy inherent in Harvey Dent's character arc might make the role interesting to Bale. Plus the first movie he'd be in would have him still be a normal man.
Imaginary Stories: A DC Producer Quest
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Henry Cavill is still my favorite, but i have no problem with Routh or Bale taking the role either. The only one i don't want to pick is Jude Law, and it's only because of the cited complications his age would bring.
February 2003: LL Callbacks Pt. II & The L-Word
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Richard Schiff, Ralph Fiennes and Mark Strong are brought in for follow-up interviews and screen-tests against your four Supermen candidates for the role of Lex Luthor. There's some disappointment among your colleagues that you didn't reach out to Hanks or Brosnan for interviews and potential autograph opportunities, but it largely subsides as the three potential Luthors get acclimated. Fiennes and Branagh get on well immediately and you're thankful that you have Ford to counter-balance any bias that might bring to the casting process.
Going from the normalcy and efficiency of that part of production to the rather muddled and hectic proceeding of the love-interest audition tapes could not be more of a change.
On the hastily re-arranged office-lobby furniture, you and your colleagues in the production team jockey for any sort of comfortable position while your intern hastily flicks through audition tapes for the girls. There's a sort of rhythm to the click of the tape into the VCR, Branagh's interested hum, Law's quiet comment of "a bit young, isn't she?", the click of Ford's tongue and his veiled frown of disapproval at less "comic accurate" depictions, your own sigh and the ticking of the clock behind you all. There's a collective groan with each "rerun" on the screen; you love the intern's effort in setting this up, but you wish that he'd have had the good sense to sort the candidates who set in tapes for both roles out of the general pool.
There are eight women who jump to the front of discussion over the course of your studio sleepover. For Lois Lane, the first name to seriously come up in the discussion is Emmy Rossum—incredible audition, a strong fit for Alex Ford's vision of Lois and already sought out by directors as storied as Eastwood and Emmerich. Unfortunately, you have to agree with Law: she's very young for the role. Sixteen, though she'll be eighteen by the time you expect the movie to release, potentially paired against men in their mid-to-late twenties… The saving graces are Ford's insistence as Lana Lang as the primary love interest and the presence of Cavill as a potential younger Superman. It isn't too hard to imagine the minor script changes that would be needed to make a young take on Lois work, if Rossum and Cavill have any chemistry at all.
Arden Cho is only a bit older than Emmy Rossum and comes with the mixed bag of being a complete unknown: no film or television history and no professional acting experience at all, only the recommendations of her high school acting teacher, her ballet instructor's advice and a short list of Korean-American modeling gigs. Still, her quick audition shows a talent and gut for the role that breathes energy into Lois Lane. A part of you wonders where she was in the Catwoman audition; though she's no Kareena, you can't help but think her clear talent in ballet and martial arts would have made her a good fit for one of the Gotham City Sirens. Like Rossum, you'd be looking to pair her with Cavill over the other candidates for the Superman role, which makes the question less of a Cho-vs-everyone and more of a comparison of Cho-against-Rossum. She's earmarked as an interested candidate for both the Lana and the Lois role, if you wanted to pursue both of the young actresses…
The next candidates who caught attention are thankfully out of their teens. Rose Byrne (23) is an award-winning actress and a Star Wars alum (even if it was an admittedly bit role!) who much like Rossum perfectly fits Alex Ford's ideal Lois Lane image. Branagh is happy to see her audition; he isn't as familiar with the Sydney Theatre Company as he'd like to be, but he's interested in reaching out to some colleagues who caught her performance in La Dispute (2000). She's on positive momentum in Hollywood that you think you could turn to real stardom, with enough proven experience acting against talents like Heath Ledger that you're confident even at her worst she won't sink the production.
Dania Ramirez (23) might not have the largest profile or the strongest history of film, but her references and recommendations are hard-to-ignore. A personal friend of Spike Lee with plans to be a frequent collaborator and co-signs by music industry legends Jay-Z and De La Soul, there's a sense to everything in her audition tapes that she wants the role to be something bigger than her. Ford isn't so sure she's a good fit for the role, but Branagh is an instant fan. Ramirez believes there's a lack of strong Spanish women in American films, and believes that this role could be a stepping stone to inspire a new generation of women and actresses. It might be worth considering the potential for backlash involved in having an actress outspoken about the race-bending of their character; while you're sure cooler heads among the fanbase will prevail, you've heard far too many of the media soundbites on different Catwoman castings not to anticipate the threats and letters Ramirez will receive for her stance on the role.
Olivia Cheng (23) is an interesting candidate: she's got a substantial amount of on-screen experience, but it comes from her work as a reporter, not her work as an actress. A videographer, journalist and bit-role actress from a working-class background with a reputation for speaking her mind and a strong sense of justice, Cheng breathes Lois Lane in every part of her audition tape and story. Ford's usual complaint is gone—he's hooked on the idea, really—but there's some questions from Branagh and Law on if she has the experience for the role. You'd never call her a safe pick for the role. The fit for Lana Lang is less inspired than her fit for Lois, but the amateur actress is nonetheless interested in either role should a different candidate for Lois be chosen.
Isla Fisher (27) was Scooby-Doo's Mary Jane just a year ago, but that doesn't stop you from recognizing her clear talent or fit for the role of Lana Lang when you see her audition tape (hell, her middle name is even Lang!). The actress is working to move into more "serious" roles and make a true breakthrough into Hollywood, and this role would certainly do that for her. She's certainly charming in the role, and there's enough depth to her acting that both Ford and Branagh are interested in working with her more. Age-wise, she's a much more palatable pair for Jude Law or the other older Superman candidates, something that many of your fellows on the not-so-proverbial casting couch vocally appreciate.
Jamie Ray Newman (24) is something of a newcomer to Hollywood, but her work with live theatre outlives her through the Ignition Festival for Women in the Arts she founded and her award-winning work as a high school actress. Ford thinks she's a perfect fit for the role, appearance-wise, and you don't have to look back at Branagh to know he's interested to work with the theatre aficionado as well. There's a sort of elegance to Jamie Ray Newman's wardrobe that could really play well with the themes Branagh's costume designer, Alexandra Byrne, hopes to explore in Lana Lang's character.
Zhang Ziyi (24) made her Hollywood debut with Rush Hour 2, if you're being technical, but the room recognizes her immediately from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon instead. Her audition is flawless, from top to bottom, and it's the first of the day to provoke a reaction from Christian Bale. Though her name might not be a household one in the states, there's no doubt in your mind about the star-power she can command abroad. There's a longer message attached with her audition, provided by her agent: Ziyi is interested in the role, and the opportunity to be a part of something as powerful as the Superman mythos, but she's not at all interested in playing the role of a victim, a trophy or a trope. There's a level of care involved in the script-treatments that she's been read that Ziyi evidently adores—the range of emotion, the ability to deftly lead the Superman without resorting to base instincts or violence, the wisdom beyond her years—and a chance at a non-traditional love arc that's "worthy of being told."
[] [LOIS]
[] [LANA]
[] [PAIRING]
Fuller Lois and Lana casting lists are available here. The candidates highlighted were selected for an appearance in this chapter based off the roll of dice on discord. Please use the PAIRING task vote to designate potential Clark-Lois and Clark-Lana combinations to be prioritized in screen-testing. Due to the raw number of candidates involved, no pictures are included in hyper-link here.
With Zhang Ziyi's tape finishing, there's a collective sigh of relief in the room. That's the end of both audition folders and hundreds upon hundreds of clips of inexperienced actresses and amateurs giving their best Lois and Lana impressions. You stand, starting to debrief the room, when your favorite intern steps into the room with a third envelope. He gives a nervous cough.
"I didn't know exactly how to sort these ones, sir. They've been coming in with the others, but they're not quite targeted at the same roles—" As he speaks, Branagh laughs and waves to the name scratched off on the envelope. Kara.
"Ever since word got out on the Lucas Wainwright draft, sir, we've been turning back audition tapes and CDs for Supergirl. And, well, I thought I might as well sort them too,"
You're shaking your head no, not tonight before the words fully process. No, not the words. The word. The word got out?
What?
Lucas Wainwright's "SUPERGIRL and the RISE OF BIZARRO," along with Wainwright's "CATWOMAN: Diamonds are Forever," Vijay Sahni's "CATWOMAN & KING TUT," Darren Aronofsky's "BATMAN: YEAR ONE" and several other, smaller scripts and idea treatments have LEAKED to the public. Though you'd prefer not to jump to conclusions, all of the materials leaked entered circulation during Aronofsky's time with the studio—nothing since his departure has been brought out to the light of day. The studio's tech-wizards are out in force trying to see if they can pinpoint the source of the leaks to any legally relevant standard, but you've been around enough to know there's a very slim chance of that.
The reaction to the leaks is very mixed among the public and the studio. Aronofsky's own script has been lambasted by members of the media for failing to understand what makes Batman tick, a criticism you would be more comfortable with if Miller wasn't still using good chunks of the wretched thing. The Catwoman scripts are mere curiosities, though there's some tabloid riffing off of the idea of Catwoman & King Tut with their own proposal for WonderCat and the Egyptian Bat—which you're going to pretend you never saw and hope the shivers go away—but the Supergirl script has legs.
One, it's clearly hit a chord with the public. Girls of all ages and all backgrounds are sending in their audition tapes for a chance to be the next Supergirl. As soon as word breaks that your team is actually keeping the tapes, and you're sure it will break soon enough, you can expect you'll never have an empty voicemailbox again. You should call Helen Slater and give her a warning. Despite yourself and the situation, you smile. Clearly, there is interest out there in women-led superhero films.
Two, it's hit a chord with the other departments at WB. When you shift your email to the "spam" tab, it's sure enough full of different coworkers you'd prefer not too hard about with ideas on how to market Supergirl to the next generation. Ideas on different costumes, different styles of hair, have you considered this "Power Girl" character's appearance—ignoring everything else, do they really think you're going to have a superhero in thigh-high teal boots?—all spell out to you that you're going to have to have a chat with the men upstairs about just what you're thinking trying this Supergirl movie experiment again.
Of course, there's time to deny it all and run a campaign against future leaks—it wouldn't do to have any of your other ideas in the pipeline coming out to the public so early. Or, on the flipside, you could try to pivot and release more tidbits on films you've thought of for the future and try to drown the news out as one of countless movies being discussed. In the process, you'd have a decent chance of sounding out the public's interest in any of the stranger properties you might be interested in adapting.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Open the faucet.
Going from the normalcy and efficiency of that part of production to the rather muddled and hectic proceeding of the love-interest audition tapes could not be more of a change.
On the hastily re-arranged office-lobby furniture, you and your colleagues in the production team jockey for any sort of comfortable position while your intern hastily flicks through audition tapes for the girls. There's a sort of rhythm to the click of the tape into the VCR, Branagh's interested hum, Law's quiet comment of "a bit young, isn't she?", the click of Ford's tongue and his veiled frown of disapproval at less "comic accurate" depictions, your own sigh and the ticking of the clock behind you all. There's a collective groan with each "rerun" on the screen; you love the intern's effort in setting this up, but you wish that he'd have had the good sense to sort the candidates who set in tapes for both roles out of the general pool.
There are eight women who jump to the front of discussion over the course of your studio sleepover. For Lois Lane, the first name to seriously come up in the discussion is Emmy Rossum—incredible audition, a strong fit for Alex Ford's vision of Lois and already sought out by directors as storied as Eastwood and Emmerich. Unfortunately, you have to agree with Law: she's very young for the role. Sixteen, though she'll be eighteen by the time you expect the movie to release, potentially paired against men in their mid-to-late twenties… The saving graces are Ford's insistence as Lana Lang as the primary love interest and the presence of Cavill as a potential younger Superman. It isn't too hard to imagine the minor script changes that would be needed to make a young take on Lois work, if Rossum and Cavill have any chemistry at all.
Arden Cho is only a bit older than Emmy Rossum and comes with the mixed bag of being a complete unknown: no film or television history and no professional acting experience at all, only the recommendations of her high school acting teacher, her ballet instructor's advice and a short list of Korean-American modeling gigs. Still, her quick audition shows a talent and gut for the role that breathes energy into Lois Lane. A part of you wonders where she was in the Catwoman audition; though she's no Kareena, you can't help but think her clear talent in ballet and martial arts would have made her a good fit for one of the Gotham City Sirens. Like Rossum, you'd be looking to pair her with Cavill over the other candidates for the Superman role, which makes the question less of a Cho-vs-everyone and more of a comparison of Cho-against-Rossum. She's earmarked as an interested candidate for both the Lana and the Lois role, if you wanted to pursue both of the young actresses…
The next candidates who caught attention are thankfully out of their teens. Rose Byrne (23) is an award-winning actress and a Star Wars alum (even if it was an admittedly bit role!) who much like Rossum perfectly fits Alex Ford's ideal Lois Lane image. Branagh is happy to see her audition; he isn't as familiar with the Sydney Theatre Company as he'd like to be, but he's interested in reaching out to some colleagues who caught her performance in La Dispute (2000). She's on positive momentum in Hollywood that you think you could turn to real stardom, with enough proven experience acting against talents like Heath Ledger that you're confident even at her worst she won't sink the production.
Dania Ramirez (23) might not have the largest profile or the strongest history of film, but her references and recommendations are hard-to-ignore. A personal friend of Spike Lee with plans to be a frequent collaborator and co-signs by music industry legends Jay-Z and De La Soul, there's a sense to everything in her audition tapes that she wants the role to be something bigger than her. Ford isn't so sure she's a good fit for the role, but Branagh is an instant fan. Ramirez believes there's a lack of strong Spanish women in American films, and believes that this role could be a stepping stone to inspire a new generation of women and actresses. It might be worth considering the potential for backlash involved in having an actress outspoken about the race-bending of their character; while you're sure cooler heads among the fanbase will prevail, you've heard far too many of the media soundbites on different Catwoman castings not to anticipate the threats and letters Ramirez will receive for her stance on the role.
Olivia Cheng (23) is an interesting candidate: she's got a substantial amount of on-screen experience, but it comes from her work as a reporter, not her work as an actress. A videographer, journalist and bit-role actress from a working-class background with a reputation for speaking her mind and a strong sense of justice, Cheng breathes Lois Lane in every part of her audition tape and story. Ford's usual complaint is gone—he's hooked on the idea, really—but there's some questions from Branagh and Law on if she has the experience for the role. You'd never call her a safe pick for the role. The fit for Lana Lang is less inspired than her fit for Lois, but the amateur actress is nonetheless interested in either role should a different candidate for Lois be chosen.
Isla Fisher (27) was Scooby-Doo's Mary Jane just a year ago, but that doesn't stop you from recognizing her clear talent or fit for the role of Lana Lang when you see her audition tape (hell, her middle name is even Lang!). The actress is working to move into more "serious" roles and make a true breakthrough into Hollywood, and this role would certainly do that for her. She's certainly charming in the role, and there's enough depth to her acting that both Ford and Branagh are interested in working with her more. Age-wise, she's a much more palatable pair for Jude Law or the other older Superman candidates, something that many of your fellows on the not-so-proverbial casting couch vocally appreciate.
Jamie Ray Newman (24) is something of a newcomer to Hollywood, but her work with live theatre outlives her through the Ignition Festival for Women in the Arts she founded and her award-winning work as a high school actress. Ford thinks she's a perfect fit for the role, appearance-wise, and you don't have to look back at Branagh to know he's interested to work with the theatre aficionado as well. There's a sort of elegance to Jamie Ray Newman's wardrobe that could really play well with the themes Branagh's costume designer, Alexandra Byrne, hopes to explore in Lana Lang's character.
Zhang Ziyi (24) made her Hollywood debut with Rush Hour 2, if you're being technical, but the room recognizes her immediately from Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon instead. Her audition is flawless, from top to bottom, and it's the first of the day to provoke a reaction from Christian Bale. Though her name might not be a household one in the states, there's no doubt in your mind about the star-power she can command abroad. There's a longer message attached with her audition, provided by her agent: Ziyi is interested in the role, and the opportunity to be a part of something as powerful as the Superman mythos, but she's not at all interested in playing the role of a victim, a trophy or a trope. There's a level of care involved in the script-treatments that she's been read that Ziyi evidently adores—the range of emotion, the ability to deftly lead the Superman without resorting to base instincts or violence, the wisdom beyond her years—and a chance at a non-traditional love arc that's "worthy of being told."
[] [LOIS]
[] [LANA]
[] [PAIRING]
Fuller Lois and Lana casting lists are available here. The candidates highlighted were selected for an appearance in this chapter based off the roll of dice on discord. Please use the PAIRING task vote to designate potential Clark-Lois and Clark-Lana combinations to be prioritized in screen-testing. Due to the raw number of candidates involved, no pictures are included in hyper-link here.
With Zhang Ziyi's tape finishing, there's a collective sigh of relief in the room. That's the end of both audition folders and hundreds upon hundreds of clips of inexperienced actresses and amateurs giving their best Lois and Lana impressions. You stand, starting to debrief the room, when your favorite intern steps into the room with a third envelope. He gives a nervous cough.
"I didn't know exactly how to sort these ones, sir. They've been coming in with the others, but they're not quite targeted at the same roles—" As he speaks, Branagh laughs and waves to the name scratched off on the envelope. Kara.
"Ever since word got out on the Lucas Wainwright draft, sir, we've been turning back audition tapes and CDs for Supergirl. And, well, I thought I might as well sort them too,"
You're shaking your head no, not tonight before the words fully process. No, not the words. The word. The word got out?
What?
Lucas Wainwright's "SUPERGIRL and the RISE OF BIZARRO," along with Wainwright's "CATWOMAN: Diamonds are Forever," Vijay Sahni's "CATWOMAN & KING TUT," Darren Aronofsky's "BATMAN: YEAR ONE" and several other, smaller scripts and idea treatments have LEAKED to the public. Though you'd prefer not to jump to conclusions, all of the materials leaked entered circulation during Aronofsky's time with the studio—nothing since his departure has been brought out to the light of day. The studio's tech-wizards are out in force trying to see if they can pinpoint the source of the leaks to any legally relevant standard, but you've been around enough to know there's a very slim chance of that.
The reaction to the leaks is very mixed among the public and the studio. Aronofsky's own script has been lambasted by members of the media for failing to understand what makes Batman tick, a criticism you would be more comfortable with if Miller wasn't still using good chunks of the wretched thing. The Catwoman scripts are mere curiosities, though there's some tabloid riffing off of the idea of Catwoman & King Tut with their own proposal for WonderCat and the Egyptian Bat—which you're going to pretend you never saw and hope the shivers go away—but the Supergirl script has legs.
One, it's clearly hit a chord with the public. Girls of all ages and all backgrounds are sending in their audition tapes for a chance to be the next Supergirl. As soon as word breaks that your team is actually keeping the tapes, and you're sure it will break soon enough, you can expect you'll never have an empty voicemailbox again. You should call Helen Slater and give her a warning. Despite yourself and the situation, you smile. Clearly, there is interest out there in women-led superhero films.
Two, it's hit a chord with the other departments at WB. When you shift your email to the "spam" tab, it's sure enough full of different coworkers you'd prefer not too hard about with ideas on how to market Supergirl to the next generation. Ideas on different costumes, different styles of hair, have you considered this "Power Girl" character's appearance—ignoring everything else, do they really think you're going to have a superhero in thigh-high teal boots?—all spell out to you that you're going to have to have a chat with the men upstairs about just what you're thinking trying this Supergirl movie experiment again.
Of course, there's time to deny it all and run a campaign against future leaks—it wouldn't do to have any of your other ideas in the pipeline coming out to the public so early. Or, on the flipside, you could try to pivot and release more tidbits on films you've thought of for the future and try to drown the news out as one of countless movies being discussed. In the process, you'd have a decent chance of sounding out the public's interest in any of the stranger properties you might be interested in adapting.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Open the faucet.
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Voting will open at 11:00 AM CST 2/27/2023, ~approx. 6 hours from the time of this post. Plenty, plenty of thoughts to share on the actress candidates here, but I've been having trouble actually getting this update out and I've written and discarded chunks of it too many times to write a coherent blurb here about it all. Suffice to say, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. It is worthwhile to take a look at the full list of candidates here--there are a lot of really talented actresses available for consideration here, and as we continue through the Superman casting process, I'll probably have more of them making full appearances in the narrative. These early bloomers are just going to get a few more chances to shine than the others do. The staging of this update isn't the most sensible thing in the world (the cast hopefuls and staff all crowded together to watch audition tapes is certainly fanciful), but it was fun and the chapter was otherwise fighting me, so here we are.
The Flash Chapter No2 post is really interesting, but I need sometime to read it over again before I'm ready to give my full thoughts on it; it's been up for a while, but unfortunately I've been busy with my work and covering for some members of my management who've fallen ill. In the meantime, I've included it in the contribution ledger with the first Flash Chapter and awarded 2 more Contribution Points and more Flash Interest/Directorial Interest.
The first leaks have come, a potential consequence of the negative way things when with Aronofsky, Weisz and now Miller. Whether the leaks are a good or bad thing for Mr. Weisinger and for the interests of the thread are up to you to speculate on.
The Flash Chapter No2 post is really interesting, but I need sometime to read it over again before I'm ready to give my full thoughts on it; it's been up for a while, but unfortunately I've been busy with my work and covering for some members of my management who've fallen ill. In the meantime, I've included it in the contribution ledger with the first Flash Chapter and awarded 2 more Contribution Points and more Flash Interest/Directorial Interest.
The first leaks have come, a potential consequence of the negative way things when with Aronofsky, Weisz and now Miller. Whether the leaks are a good or bad thing for Mr. Weisinger and for the interests of the thread are up to you to speculate on.
[] [LOIS]
[] [LANA]
[] [PAIRING]
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Open the faucet.
[] [LANA]
[] [PAIRING]
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
[] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Open the faucet.
CoreBrute: 3 Contribution Points for Vijay Sahni's Catwoman and King Tut treatment
KreenWarrior: 1 Contribution Points for Lucas Wainwright's Supergirl and the Rise of Bizarro treatment + (???) Supergirl Interest; 1 Contribution Points for Lucas Wainwright's Diamonds are Forever treatment + (???) Jane Goldman collab. interest
Thinker90: (+) Hawkman Interest and (+) Hawkgirl Interest for ??'s Hawkman and Hawkworld Thoughts
Kir the Wizard: 5 Contribution Points for Chris Baraniuk's Flash Chapter №1 & 2 + (+++) The Flash Interest and (++) The Flash Directorial Interest
The Red Lady: 2 Contribution Points for Anna Lee's Batman: Battle for the Cowl + (???) Robin Interest and (+) Azazel Interest
KreenWarrior: 1 Contribution Points for Lucas Wainwright's Supergirl and the Rise of Bizarro treatment + (???) Supergirl Interest; 1 Contribution Points for Lucas Wainwright's Diamonds are Forever treatment + (???) Jane Goldman collab. interest
Thinker90: (+) Hawkman Interest and (+) Hawkgirl Interest for ??'s Hawkman and Hawkworld Thoughts
Kir the Wizard: 5 Contribution Points for Chris Baraniuk's Flash Chapter №1 & 2 + (+++) The Flash Interest and (++) The Flash Directorial Interest
The Red Lady: 2 Contribution Points for Anna Lee's Batman: Battle for the Cowl + (???) Robin Interest and (+) Azazel Interest
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Mine didn't leak-
Unsure if good or bad though, so it's a bit worrying. I am...unsure of our Lois and Lana. I am less familiar with these people, but I do think we should at least keep the age thing in mind.
Unsure if good or bad though, so it's a bit worrying. I am...unsure of our Lois and Lana. I am less familiar with these people, but I do think we should at least keep the age thing in mind.
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I think that the youngest Lois Lane should be around the ages of Rose Byrne and Dania Ramirez of 23, no matter which Superman we pick.
This is a really tough choice, though.
This is a really tough choice, though.
On the one hand, boo, leaks.
On the other, they liked it!
I'm not sure I have any preference other than middle ground right now. We don't want to overcommit when we haven't even started talking to directors, but it also seems a shame to waste the buzz on a denial.
On the other, they liked it!
I'm not sure I have any preference other than middle ground right now. We don't want to overcommit when we haven't even started talking to directors, but it also seems a shame to waste the buzz on a denial.
Either Deny or Cautious Confirmation seems like the best here. As for Lois, I'm a tad stump on the choice, but Olivia Cheng's prior experience as a reporter could benefit a lot for Lois Lane role.
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Also, I didn't understand properly completely about the votes: do we have to use only those mentioned in the chapter, or can we choose from the entire list? If it's the latter, then I have a few ideas.
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Go ahead and choose from the entire list. The ones highlighted in chapter had a :good first audition" and will receive small benefits for it, but it's not an insurmountable bonus. You can also just let the CC play out longer and the MCs will naturally consider more candidates.
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Okay, so I have few ideas:
[ ] [LOIS] Natalie Portman
While I did say that 23 should be the youngest for an actress for Lois Lane because it would make her be a top reporter credible, I do believe that Natalie Portman has a lot going for her: She's a child actress with quite a track record (Leon the Professional, Heat, Beautiful Girls), making her a very good seasoned actress who is still young. The con with her is that she is still committed to the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, which could heavily clash with her schedule.
[ ] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
The description in the chapter sold me on her as a leading option.
[ ] [LOIS] Rachel McAdams
I love Rachel McAdams and I can easily imagine her as Lois Lane.
For Lana Lang, any of the four who are marked are fine with me. I'm sold on Newman, Wong, Fisher and Ziyi from the descriptions given in the chapter. But... I have one additional one that interested me.
[ ] [LANA] Kate Bosworth
Yet, Superman Return's Lois Lane. I think she could work despite her age. I say give her a shot.
By the way, remind me who are all of our Superman actors? I remember Bale, Law and Cavill, but I don't remember the others. It will help me with the pairings vote.
[ ] [LOIS] Natalie Portman
While I did say that 23 should be the youngest for an actress for Lois Lane because it would make her be a top reporter credible, I do believe that Natalie Portman has a lot going for her: She's a child actress with quite a track record (Leon the Professional, Heat, Beautiful Girls), making her a very good seasoned actress who is still young. The con with her is that she is still committed to the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, which could heavily clash with her schedule.
[ ] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
The description in the chapter sold me on her as a leading option.
[ ] [LOIS] Rachel McAdams
I love Rachel McAdams and I can easily imagine her as Lois Lane.
For Lana Lang, any of the four who are marked are fine with me. I'm sold on Newman, Wong, Fisher and Ziyi from the descriptions given in the chapter. But... I have one additional one that interested me.
[ ] [LANA] Kate Bosworth
Yet, Superman Return's Lois Lane. I think she could work despite her age. I say give her a shot.
By the way, remind me who are all of our Superman actors? I remember Bale, Law and Cavill, but I don't remember the others. It will help me with the pairings vote.
[x] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
Like I said, seems a shame to miss out on the buzz. Buzz is good, even if we have to hire a few more interns to sort through tapes and e-mails
[x] [LOIS] Rosario Dawson
I'm a fan.
[x] [LOIS] Krysten Bell
[X] [LANA] Zhang Ziyi
I was a huge CTHD fan, so I'm interested to how this goes.
Like I said, seems a shame to miss out on the buzz. Buzz is good, even if we have to hire a few more interns to sort through tapes and e-mails
[x] [LOIS] Rosario Dawson
I'm a fan.
[x] [LOIS] Krysten Bell
[X] [LANA] Zhang Ziyi
I was a huge CTHD fan, so I'm interested to how this goes.
[X] [LOIS] Kristen Bell
Veronica Mar herself! And we know Kristen Bell is a great actress in the future, such as The Good Place. If we need a strong screen presence and blonde Lois Lane. Kristen Bell is definitely the one!
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
Olivia Cheng is a solid choice her from her past experience working as a reporter alone. She's new, yeah. But her experience could make up for her newbie status a lot. It's another very cool choice.
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
Krysten certainly proves herself in the future with Jessica Jones and Breaking Bad so this shouldn't be underestimate. But at this point, she gonna starts out a tad new as well. But while some may hesistate on her hair bang look, but she's blach hair and I think it adds charm and make our version of Lois Lane recognizable.
[X] [LOIS] Sarah Paulson
Sarah is a strong older actress on the list. She's also a strong match to Christian Bale or Jude Law if we really want them as our Superman.
For Lana Lang, I will mostly based on what I look for in a country small town girl look but don't overpower Lois in the confidence reporter role in term of appearance and presence. Two feels are better than one. So these are what I have in mind:
[X] [LANG] Lizzy Caplan
[X] [LANG] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [LANG] Anna Torv
Just for reminder for everyone, the finale Superman cast currently from last time are:
Christian Bale (28)
Henry Cavill (19)
Jude Law (30)
Brandon Routh (23)
And so, my pairing for the try out is:
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Anna Torv (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Lizzy Caplan (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Sarah Paulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Sarah Paulson (28)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
Btw, here's an image to try to convince that Henry Cavil and Krysten Ritter pairing as Clark and Lois might work!
Veronica Mar herself! And we know Kristen Bell is a great actress in the future, such as The Good Place. If we need a strong screen presence and blonde Lois Lane. Kristen Bell is definitely the one!
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
Olivia Cheng is a solid choice her from her past experience working as a reporter alone. She's new, yeah. But her experience could make up for her newbie status a lot. It's another very cool choice.
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
Krysten certainly proves herself in the future with Jessica Jones and Breaking Bad so this shouldn't be underestimate. But at this point, she gonna starts out a tad new as well. But while some may hesistate on her hair bang look, but she's blach hair and I think it adds charm and make our version of Lois Lane recognizable.
[X] [LOIS] Sarah Paulson
Sarah is a strong older actress on the list. She's also a strong match to Christian Bale or Jude Law if we really want them as our Superman.
For Lana Lang, I will mostly based on what I look for in a country small town girl look but don't overpower Lois in the confidence reporter role in term of appearance and presence. Two feels are better than one. So these are what I have in mind:
[X] [LANG] Lizzy Caplan
[X] [LANG] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [LANG] Anna Torv
Just for reminder for everyone, the finale Superman cast currently from last time are:
Christian Bale (28)
Henry Cavill (19)
Jude Law (30)
Brandon Routh (23)
And so, my pairing for the try out is:
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Anna Torv (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Lizzy Caplan (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Sarah Paulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Sarah Paulson (28)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
Btw, here's an image to try to convince that Henry Cavil and Krysten Ritter pairing as Clark and Lois might work!
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[X] [LOIS] Kristen Bell
[X] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
[X] [LOIS] Rachel McAdams
[X] [LOIS] Sarah Poulson
[X] [LANA] Kate Bosworth
[X] [LANA] Ellen Wong
[X] [LANA] Isla Fisher
[X] [LANA] Zhan Ziyi
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kate Bosworth (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Ellen Wong (18)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Sarah Poulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Isla Fisher (27)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Sarah Poulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Isla Fisher (27)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Kate Bosworth (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Ellen Wong (18)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
Okay, so for the pairing I did waaay too many, but my justification is that I want to try everyone so that we would have the best set toether, to see who goes well with who.
Not sure if it's acceptable, but that's what I'm going with, dammit!
[X] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
[X] [LOIS] Rachel McAdams
[X] [LOIS] Sarah Poulson
[X] [LANA] Kate Bosworth
[X] [LANA] Ellen Wong
[X] [LANA] Isla Fisher
[X] [LANA] Zhan Ziyi
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kate Bosworth (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Ellen Wong (18)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Sarah Poulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Isla Fisher (27)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Sarah Poulson (28)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Isla Fisher (27)
[X] [PAIRING] Jude Law (30) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Rachel McAdams (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Kate Bosworth (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavill (19) - Ellen Wong (18)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
Okay, so for the pairing I did waaay too many, but my justification is that I want to try everyone so that we would have the best set toether, to see who goes well with who.
Not sure if it's acceptable, but that's what I'm going with, dammit!
- Pronouns
- She/Her
I'll have to think on the casting more, but for now...
[x] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
[x] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Cautious confirmation.
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- the point is of no return and you have reached it!
Yeah, the selections of which ones leaked is based off of when they were submitted to the thread (Aronofsky departure is Dec. 27~28 in thread/February in universe, the leaked projects are all posted in thread on or before Dec. 27~28).
I didn't explain what I meant by this [PAIRING] task well enough and I apologize for that.
The goal for that task vote isn't to spell out every potential pairing of actor/actresses; you can assume that general compatibility tests will take place in universe and that I will be rolling the results for them even if they aren't chosen. This task vote is more for special pairings that you want to hone in on—say, "[PAIRING] Christian Bale & Zhang Ziyi," (signaled out because of the reaction Bale has to her audition in the text), "[PAIRING] Henry Cavill & Krysten Ritter" (based on the photo of the two of them together and the suggestion that they'd make a strong pair) or "[PAIRING] Henry Cavill & Arden Cho" (signaled out because the other Superman candidates would be too much of an age gap)—and run more specific screen tests on.
This vote will tentatively stay open for the next ~24 hours. I'm available in thread or on discord to workshop potential votes and answer other questions as they develop.
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LANG] Lizzy Caplan
[X] [LANG] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [LANG] Anna Torv
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Anna Torv (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Lizzy Caplan (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LANG] Lizzy Caplan
[X] [LANG] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [LANG] Anna Torv
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Anna Torv (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Kristen Bell (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Lizzy Caplan (20)
[X] [PAIRING] Christian Bale (28) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [LEAK-STRATEGY] Deny, deny, deny.
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Hmm, okay, so I've thought about it a bit and I'm pretty happy with my Lois selection. Lana, I'm less sure of, but this is what I've got.
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
[X] [LANA] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LOIS] Rose Byrne
[X] [LANA] Zhang Ziyi
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Krysten Ritter (21)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Rose Byrne (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Olivia Cheng (23)
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Zhang Ziyi (24)
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
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[X] [LOIS] Kristen Bell
[X] [LOIS] Rosario Dawson
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LOIS] Mila Kunis
I saw she was an option and thought she had the right kind of attitude to play Lois, and a very distinct look.
[X] [LANA] Isla Fisher
[X] [LANA] Ellen Wong
[X] [LOIS] Rosario Dawson
[X] [LOIS] Olivia Cheng
[X] [LOIS] Krysten Ritter
[X] [LOIS] Mila Kunis
I saw she was an option and thought she had the right kind of attitude to play Lois, and a very distinct look.
[X] [LANA] Isla Fisher
[X] [LANA] Ellen Wong
Why would anyone care, it's a movie, you can change a hair style for a movie. We've got blondes auditioning to have dark hair or be a red head, this is a minor point.
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[X] [LANA] Courtney Ford
[X] [Lois] Courtney Ford
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Courtney Ford (24)
If we go with Brandon as our Superman, I suggest casting his future wife as Lana for extra chemistry. She can sell both Lana or Lois, actually, from what I've seen of her on DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
If we go with Henry, I think this one is the most important choice.
Not sure on the leaks.
[X] [Lois] Courtney Ford
[X] [PAIRING] Brandon Routh (23) - Courtney Ford (24)
If we go with Brandon as our Superman, I suggest casting his future wife as Lana for extra chemistry. She can sell both Lana or Lois, actually, from what I've seen of her on DC's Legends of Tomorrow.
[X] [PAIRING] Henry Cavil (19) - Krysten Ritter (21)
If we go with Henry, I think this one is the most important choice.
Not sure on the leaks.