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I cannot be caged! I cannot be controlled! - Baldur's Gate 3

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This'll only be relevant to a very select group of us, and doing this thread is either very early or me perpetuating a sick joke, but there's strong evidence that Larian's working on a third numbered Baldur's Gate.

Is this a continuation to the adventures of <CHARNAME> and their fratricidal adventures? Will it actually have anything to do with the titular city? Will best ranger and Boo show up or will we have to deal with knobs like Cernd and Corvan?

No idea. All we do know is that Larian.com is currently showing a giant III on their landing page, and when you look at the metadata you get:


picture showing the words "Baldur's Gate III" in that order in site metadata
text: Someone at @larianstudios is about to learn how to clean up the metadata
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Could be an accident, especially given that Larian's Divine Divinity and Divinity: Original Sin series are both on 2 right now and in need of a 3. But Larian did outsource a direct DivOS 2 sequel to the makers of Expeditions Conquistador in favor of working on some secret project which seems... suggestive.

So. Real, accident, joke, what's your take?

Me, I want to belieeeeeeeeeeeve.

(Also requesting a thread tag for "You must gather your party before venturing forth")
 
And I'm not sure I would want a bladur's gate 3, since the second game had a proper ending to the seriers so instead of continuing the adventurers of <CHARNAME> I would pefer them to be working on a more original adventure in the Forgotten Realms.

Captain Clever said:
(Also requesting a thread tag for "You must gather your party before venturing forth")
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Done.
 
Captain Clever said:
So. Real, accident, joke, what's your take?
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Well, from the Kotaku article and comments by the author's sources apparently it's outright confirmed to be Baldur's Gate's 3.

Baldur's Gate 3, made by the company that made one of the best CRPG's released in recent years.

Yes.

To celebrate, have these Character Portraits for the first and second Baldur's Gate made by the mangaka for Dungeon Meshi:

 
ImmortalsBlade said:
Well, from the Kotaku article and comments by the author's sources apparently it's outright confirmed to be Baldur's Gate's 3.

Baldur's Gate 3, made by the company that made one of the best CRPG's released in recent years.

Yes.

To celebrate, have these Character Portraits for the first and second Baldur's Gate made by the mangaka for Dungeon Meshi:

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I was pretty sure it was real but Larian outright denied they were doing it when PCGamer asked last year, so you literally never know.

Also those portraits are RAD oh my god. And huh, Enhanced Edition characters, literally my first time seeing them in fanart.

How interesting to see BG made it over to Japan, though it probably shouldn't surprise me so much given that I recall Ken Akamatsu made a joke about NWN back during Love Hina.
 
Khona Moshr said:
And I'm not sure I would want a bladur's gate 3, since the second game had a proper ending to the seriers so instead of continuing the adventurers of <CHARNAME> I would pefer them to be working on a more original adventure in the Forgotten Realms.
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Presumably they can do both. Baldur's Gate is a city on the Sword Coast and presumably can be used as a setting for further stories and plots.

Needless to say this news has filled me with unending glee.
 
It's very unlikely that this will take place during the time of the Bhaalspawn, for the simple matter that I think it takes place what hundreds of years before the current date (ie 5E) in forgotten realms? Besides, they won't need too. Bhaal got resurrected in a recent module. Minsc and Boo also got unpetrified and are currently wandering around the Sword Coast (though I haven't read the comic where that happens) so other than obviously them because they're the most popular character in D&D outside of like Drizzt and involving Bhaal in some way it's probably going to be a 5E adventure that shows off the current sword coast. In fact, I think there's a Bhaal related adventure coming out that people can probably bet money on will tie into the game.

So things we can generally assume:
-It'll be 5E and have the PHB races and classes.
-Probably set in the Sword Coast
-Probably involves Baldur's Gate instead of taking place in Amn again.
-Probably involves Bhaal.
-Minsc and Boo will be referenced.
-Fully 3D
-As WotC's big flagship videogame that is a sequel to the most beloved CRPG of all time and 5E's big video game debut probably going to be built to showcase 5E and the Forgotten Realms.
-It will either have a budget of two strings and a potato (like Divinity: Original Sin 2) or ALL the money. There is no in-between.

As well as things that are maybe wishful thinking:
-Minsc and Boo as a party member. Because Hell Yeah.
-We get stuff from Xanathar's and Mordenkainen's, such as player races and classes.
-With better technology and a ready-made engine that allows a great deal of flexibility we get something with a lot more options then BG2
-It won't visibly run out of money half-way through the game like DOS2.
 
A D&D game using the DOS engine?

That sounds interesting. Though it would be odd if BG3 was turn-based, rather than real-time like its predecessors. Not bad at all, just really unusual.

I wouldn't be too surprised if the DOS engine could handle real-time with pause, though. After all, it works for walking around and taking damage from environmental effects already.
 
Hopefully the AI will be a bit smarter.

The BG2 EE AI can't be trusted with fireball or lightning bolt. Okay, it be trusted to fry your party but you know what I mean.
 
Obfuscated said:
Hopefully the AI will be a bit smarter.

The BG2 EE AI can't be trusted with fireball or lightning bolt. Okay, it be trusted to fry your party but you know what I mean.
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That's why I play the mage. More seriously though, I hope that they stick with the 2e ruleset for inspiration because playing mages in 5e sucks, and post 4e Forgotten Realms had had everything fun and good stripped out of it. In some cases in racist as fuck ways. (Example: Chult, the not!Africa of the setting had one of the oldest and most advanced cities and the oldest university in the setting, was ruled by nigh-immortal paladin kings who had domesticated dinosaurs. Then fourth edition roles around, the city vanishes, they return to the stone age and need not!Europe to teach them the concept of trade again 300 years later and are a heavily colonized primitive backwater in 5th, with all the actual large towns and cities being built by colonists)
 
Arawn_Emrys said:
post 4e Forgotten Realms had had everything fun and good stripped out of it. In some cases in racist as fuck ways. (Example: Chult, the not!Africa of the setting had one of the oldest and most advanced cities and the oldest university in the setting, was ruled by nigh-immortal paladin kings who had domesticated dinosaurs. Then fourth edition roles around, the city vanishes, they return to the stone age and need not!Europe to teach them the concept of trade again 300 years later and are a heavily colonized primitive backwater in 5th, with all the actual large towns and cities being built by colonists)
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Don't forget how the entire continent of Maztica was razed to make way for dinosaurs, thus allowing Amn and Helm's actual Conquistadors to dodge responsibility for enslaving and trying to destroy an entire culture!

God, 4e fucking sucked.
 
Yooo I love Divinity and have heard good things about this franchise. I'm hype.
 
Arawn_Emrys said:
That's why I play the mage. More seriously though, I hope that they stick with the 2e ruleset for inspiration because playing mages in 5e sucks)
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lmao what? 2e has aged like milk. 5e is superior across the board - like I doubt it would hard convert 5e mechanics over without substantial changes to lots of necessary things but the idea that 2e is more workable or preferable is just whack.
 
mothematics said:
Yooo I love Divinity and have heard good things about this franchise. I'm hype.
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Basically, if they stick to the old setting lore and style, and apply their already proven skill in design it will be great. If they try and make it 5e FR for PC then it'll suck, because 5e Realms is straight up bad. (Not talking about mechanics, I mean the writing)
 
mothematics said:
lmao what? 2e has aged like milk. 5e is superior across the board - like I doubt it would hard convert 5e mechanics over without substantial changes to lots of necessary things but the idea that 2e is more workable or preferable is just whack.
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Talking about lore/setting. 4-5e raped that setting and ripped out all the parts that weren't generic European Medieval Fantasy.
 
Arawn_Emrys said:
Basically, if they stick to the old setting lore and style, and apply their already proven skill in design it will be great. If they try and make it 5e FR for PC then it'll suck, because 5e Realms is straight up bad. (Not talking about mechanics, I mean the writing)
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I've never liked the FR period, so hopefully I click with this.
Arawn_Emrys said:
Talking about lore/setting. 4-5e raped that setting and ripped out all the parts that weren't generic European Medieval Fantasy.
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Nnnoooo, you made multiple comments, one of which was about the rules. I quoted that - and only that - because it's all I was talking about. Going "but the setting tho" when I deliberately only engaged with the part not about the FR, is irrelevant.

Like I don't care about which edition has the better version of the FR. I probably never will. My bamboozlement is with the idea that in TYOL 2019 a D&D cRPG oughta be getting the its inspiration from 2e over the mechanically superior and streamlined 5e. Certainly I hope casters feel mote engaging than they do in 5e but a lot of their issues there can come down to underwhelming core gameplay loops - which are going to be completely different in a different medium, and so the issues of one probably aren't likely to carry over in this kind of game.
 
It's almost certainly going to be 5E's Forgotten Realms because otherwise Wizard's of the Coast would pull the plug because it isn't advertising their current product. A good chunk of the game is probably going to be subtly going "Hey, you should buy these books and play with your friends" in half the lore. While I have no doubt Larian is more than capable of making this unnoticeable it's probably good to keep in mind WotC's probably breathing down their neck the entire time.

I think it's reasonable to assume that the game will be a "Greatest Hits" version of 5E, with some of the more questionable decisions with the lore and mechanics quietly hidden away. Obviously there'll be streamlining to make it playable in a video game but we can reasonably expect it'll be trying to showcase 5e and the Forgotten Realms.
 
In related news, Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and their expansion packs, Neverwinter Nights, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment are coming to all consoles, most notably the Nintendo Switch.

Yes, Planescape Torment can be played portably. That is amazing.
 
ImmortalsBlade said:
In related news, Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 and their expansion packs, Neverwinter Nights, Icewind Dale and Planescape Torment are coming to all consoles, most notably the Nintendo Switch.

Yes, Planescape Torment can be played portably. That is amazing.
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IIRC they're already on mobile, but I would play the fuck out of them on Switch.

Captain Clever said:
People In The Know have been making kraken jokes for the last two days.

The Kraken Society is an organization in Faerun's Savage Frontier that work for a sentient wizard Kraken.

(Kind of a weak premise, I want CHARNAME resurrected to kill dad in modern Baldur's Gate.)
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The Kraken Society is one of the weaker tentacle villain groups in the Realms. That being said it's not too unusual. All D&D Krakens are sapient and even have like a +10 to their intelligence score in 3.5e.
 
Listened to it for a bit but it's not any BG track I recognize. Coastal Wizards and their lawyers aren't going to come out for this part.
 
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