Headway/Nexus Quest 4 (Worm/Gamer-lite/Multicross/Dimensional Travel/One Piece/X-Men Evo)

It seems likely to me that Sanji is worried about just how much of his backstory Taylor knows. Or he might just assume that she knows it all when she doesn't.
 
---Clockwork Engineering 1: This is a specific type of engineering to do with conducting power though gears and springs, and with piezoelectricity and water and steam power. You have some knowledge about this.
Hey QM. I just cheak and in the third thread, the Clockwork Engineering was at 2.
So it means this option is wrong.
-[ ] Clockwork Engineering. This is a specific type of engineering to do with conducting power though gears and springs, and with piezoelectricity and water and steam power. 40% Clockwork Engineering 2. Potential increase in Earth-Bet Engineering.
The next Lv is 3, not a 2.
 
I don't think it's something worth putting effort into.

If Taylor feels the need to look different (though I think she should be comfortable in her own skin as is), she kind of already can. And I don't mean sube sube.

Disguise 7 means she can pretty much shape-shift with makeup already.
 
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Kinda of wish there was a story thread where I could read the whole quest.

Might do this someday, but it's way down the priority list. There are links to the prior threads in the first post of this thread, and if someone's looking to cite something, searching the Quests forum by users jcw3, SynchronizedWritersBlock, and bookworm702 works well enough.

And the rest of the Strawhats kind of have a way of gravitating towards suitable opponents as well.

This has been less true than in canon in this quest - see how Clockwork Island was a bit of a clusterfuck, for example.

hey so out of curiosiyt, on raw physical stats how storng is taylor? with Fitness 10 and Weight Lifting 10 and being able to match early paradise Zoro she has to count as some level of superhuman strength wise. Where does that sit compared to Bet brutes like Glory Girl or Mush?

I'm not super interested in doing the 'she can output x in joules!!1' thing, but I can tell you how a serious fight between her and Vicky would go, assuming both were bloodlusted and that Taylor was sandbagging - only using her current presentation of General Skills +.

Taylor is faster than her, a better tactician than her, and more skilled than her. This is not me insulting Vicky - she is not some collateral damage bimbo, this is not a fic that overrelies on cruel, vaguely misogynistic fanon about her. She is a well-trained, competent cape with a methodical thought process in combat. - but Taylor is just a far better tactician than any human alive, and most Thinkers. Contessa, Shen Yu, Number Man - capes like that and above (hi, Ziva) can likely outcompete her on that field, but Tactics ability alone makes her a contender for one of the most capable combat Thinkers in North America.

This is to say nothing of Perception, Sleight-of-Hand, Stealth, and skills like that once fully leveled. Do you remember how, when Contessa was being pursued by the Irregulars, she was able to use a tree and branch falling in to magma (something like that) to fake her death, just by her power being able to guess what would fool them? Taylor will absolutely be doing things like that in serious fights once those skills are leveled. (Right now, Sleight-of-Hand is good, you'd be a capable pickpocket, but you aren't doing shit like that until 8 or 9.)

Brute strength will take you far, but the Thinker part of combat thinker is more important.

But let's talk about brute strength. I am not a mathematician, I'm not super familiar with the calcs and feats side of things, and it kind of makes my eyes glaze over after a certain point. I think Taylor can, with moderate difficulty, lift the average pickup truck. With a decent bit of difficulty, she could probably toss it 10 feet or so.

EDIT: Not extreme difficulty. A decent bit of difficulty. It would be a bit of a strain, but nothing she couldn't do.

Comparing her to Zoro is a bit unfair - Mayim humans have different limiters than Bet humans, and Zoro is an exception amongst exceptions. Zoro's limits of strength are higher than Taylor's, and he can do absurd things like lifting a house off of himself (at least, his Alabasta self was). Taylor is able to cheat a bit with high Weightlifting, whereas Zoro is just Built Like That (to say nothing of what he's capable of when he's pumping a bit of his soul into things, like I suspect he was doing when he lifted that house in the Mr. 1 fight in canon).

So, we're back to Glory Girl. I suspect that in pure lifting strength, they're rough peers. Victoria talks a lot in Ward about how power testing is a bit rough for Brutes - it's tough to gauge each cape's powers, because each cape is different, and no one in the PRT testing labs wants to be the guy who killed a young superhero while trying to test their limits. I think current Taylor, straining herself, could also lift a cement mixer. That's basically her limit as she is now - she'll need to hunt down other Brute/Brute-adjacent powers for higher lifting capability.

But if facing Glory Girl, and both are out for blood, I don't think I've seen speed feats from Victoria impressive enough to convince me she could blitz current Factota. So the likely end result is that two very rapid punches in quick succession hit the shield, the first breaks one of Taylor's hands, and then another punch with the left hand splatters her. In a friendly sparring match (possible and likely if you improve relations with New Wave*), I suspect Taylor still comes out on top, but finds it an educational experience.

*No, this would not give you Victoria's power. Friendly sparring matches with allies will not give you powers. I remember in a past thread, someone asked something to the effect of 'can we get ourselves Mastered and kill our allies that way to get their powers?' I may be being uncharitable with that memory, but it's those kind of suggestions that really go against the spirit of the quest.

(Mush isn't really relevant here - his Changer form isn't especially strong, per se, depending on the materials - there are probably plenty of times regular people have driven him off because the trash he was absorbing was, like, aluminum soda cans and paper plates and not!BurgerKing boxes. If you can break through his trash defense, you can absolutely beat him with baseball bats or crowbars. Each tendril is probably about as strong as a human hand, which is impressive, since the tendrils can get pretty small - not quite needle thin, but close, once he's had time to build up. But that's not really how most people imagine super strength - three dozen tendrils as strong as a hand lashing out.)

Glory Girl will win because her shield can absorb an atomic bomb

Raise the bar a bit further. Glory Girl's shield can take hits from Scion.

Mush depends on the garbage, but Taylor would have been able to just throw him around in any case.

There's the chance that he might have been able to start pulling off bits of her costume, or at least loosening it, before she managed to get him off. Even a combat thinker is going to have problems fighting off a hundred grabbing tendrils at once.

Aegis and brow beat has no chance because they are both limited by actual biology and the squarecube law. I think we're around GG's level and alexandria should still be stronger then us imo

I think this is on point. Don't underestimate Aegis' ability to control his momentum in flight, but I don't think it would let him overcome your advantages.

It seems likely to me that Sanji is worried about just how much of his backstory Taylor knows. Or he might just assume that she knows it all when she doesn't.

Aw man. Was hoping this would be a surprise.
I feel like we are all jumping on the same plan so that jcw3 will update faster.

I'm taking it a bit easy going forward - I might do rolls if Final Preparations is still winning on Thursday, but I'm giving myself a bit more of a break between updates. So if y'all are bandwagoning for faster updates, that's probably not going to be as effective as you want lol.

I suspect that's part of it, but guess is - it's just a case of players going 'eh, there are a lot of options here... that plan came first and looks good enough to me.'

Plan: Final Preparations - 11 (LightLan, Kejmur, fictionfan, sleepypanda, gjones600, Chiperninerm, wizig, Daniel14541, BunnyLord, Bolo, Darklord.)
Plan Calm Before the Storm - 1 (Ompa60)
Plan: Preparations for the future - 1 (hakunoX)

Current votes.

I'm surprised by how many likes the last update got. I can't tell if people are just *that* excited to be out of the First Stretch with the mandatory actions, or if due to the relative shortness of the update, it's the only one people actually read. Like, ten more reacts than Taylor's first major confrontation on Bet - the prior update.
 
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What would it take for Taylor to realize the more esoteric uses of the Sube-Sube as it can slide stuff off of her and unless jcw3 has said other it's awakening level Technique(which I think of that kind of fruit is changing your surroundings).

Shouldn't Taylor be able to slide master/attack effects off of her? As no fruit is bad just bad users kind of thing?

I understand if it a nexus limitation(gameplay) to keep the quest more engaging story aka the lack of flaw removal.
 
Hmmm... We need to learn Strategy and Logistics. Not sure if those are applicable skills that we can learn or are already covered, but long-term planning will be key.

And yeah, Victoria is a pretty good cape and will only get better, but she's ultimately limited by Bet standards of skill limitations and learning speeds, and Taylor can go FAR beyond those. Stealth is a very important thing to remember, as in that example fight, she can't punch what she doesn't know is there, and Taylor is specced for ambushing...
 
hey @jcw3 before i forgot, will we be getting "LEVELS of devil fruits?" because for an example, Taylor has the Sube Sube no mi and the Kaci Kachi no mi, but both of them are at the most basic form, that said, Slide things and harden and heat yourself, what about the learned aspects of the devil fruits? what about the AWAKENING of the devil fruit (which are BIG THINGS in OP world).

i mean, just to name 3 awakenings that were game breakers are: Luffy's Hito Hito No Mi: Model NIkka, which greants the fucking Toon Force, Kaido's which acts as a literal flame shield and weather control. and Big Mom which allows her to create a new race of sentient beings
 
I'm surprised by how many likes the last update got. I can't tell if people are just *that* excited to be out of the First Stretch with the mandatory actions, or if due to the relative shortness of the update, it's the only one people actually read. Like, ten more reacts than Taylor's first major confrontation on Bet - the prior update.

More like it is easier to scroll down to leave a like.
That, and also you explicitly mentioned watchers/audience at the bottom which reminded me, at least.
 
Nami drops down over the balcony railing and rolls her landing. You, however, have other ideas. Quicker than the pirates can react, you draw Kishi-ko and deliver two swift cuts. They fall, crying in pain and bleeding from superficial wounds.
This is an interesting one piece convention. In bet it would feel odd if we could so easily incapacitate mooks without really hurting them using swords. I don't know if that is because of Mayin toughness or some other difference, but it is clear things just work differently in different worlds.
 
This has been less true than in canon in this quest - see how Clockwork Island was a bit of a clusterfuck, for example.

True. Hopefully we'll be able to leverage Taylor's strength with tactics to know the match ups and how to keep/split the party and make it happen.

Though that might depend on Luffy being able to control himself and not jump into things, for Zoro not to get lost, Sanji not to perv, Usopp not to be cowardly, Nami not to be greedy, and just to be fair, for Taylor not to ruthlessly escalate.


....who the fuck am I trying to kid? 😅 😭
 
Also re Sanji screentime in quest. I hope Sanji's perving is toned down here. I know its kinda an Anime archetype but he still goes extremely creepy with for ex wanting invisible devil fruit to stare at naked girls etc
 
....who the fuck am I trying to kid? 😅 😭
There, there. Everything is not gonna be fine.

In bet it would feel odd if we could so easily incapacitate mooks without really hurting them using swords.
This remind me. Isn't it about time that we make a new sword, for that one we lost.
Also didn't someone say in the the other threads, that the swords we had right now isn't up to the task.
 
Shouldn't Taylor be able to slide master/attack effects off of her? As no fruit is bad just bad users kind of thing?

This is a cheeky answer, but it depends on the power/Master effect. You should go into combat assuming that every enemy you face will be the one that can bypass it.

Also, if Alvida's Devil Fruit was *that* impressive, it wouldn't be in the East Blue, a pirate would have snapped it up and likely taken it to at the very least, Paradise, if not the New World. Same reason we only started seeing fruits like Law's or the Mythical Zoans in the Grand Line in canon. The super-duper impressive Fruits tend to go to people in the more powerful parts of the world. (Before people start jumping in with exceptions, please note my use of the word 'tend'. I'm not saying it's a certainty, but it's a useful heuristic.)

Keep in mind how Smoker was able to restrain her with his Logia, before he learned Haki, she's likely still vulnerable to fire, heat, cold, etc. Alvida+Bear King is a potent defense, but it won't make you invincible.

I understand if it a nexus limitation(gameplay) to keep the quest more engaging story aka the lack of flaw removal.

Not really - I'm just not convinced Alvida's Fruit is potent enough to justify it no selling everything or even most parahuman powers on Bet. Distinction between useful and invincible.

Hmmm... We need to learn Strategy and Logistics. Not sure if those are applicable skills that we can learn or are already covered, but long-term planning will be key.

Probably covered under Tactics. If you want to do large-scale stuff, best to delegate it to an unchained Dragon.

hey @jcw3 before i forgot, will we be getting "LEVELS of devil fruits?" because for an example, Taylor has the Sube Sube no mi and the Kaci Kachi no mi, but both of them are at the most basic form, that said, Slide things and harden and heat yourself, what about the learned aspects of the devil fruits? what about the AWAKENING of the devil fruit (which are BIG THINGS in OP world).

I've spoken about this before. If you search my posts for 'Awakened', you'll find it. On my to-do list is to make an informational post like the one I have for parahumans that includes Devil Fruit powers - just haven't had the time to do so yet.

Short answer: You unlock the ability to awaken fruits once you master 10 different fruits. It will be very difficult to train them up once you've gotten them there.

This is an interesting one piece convention. In bet it would feel odd if we could so easily incapacitate mooks without really hurting them using swords. I don't know if that is because of Mayin toughness or some other difference, but it is clear things just work differently in different worlds.

It's a One Piece convention I'm probably going to tone down for this quest.

....who the fuck am I trying to kid? 😅 😭

:Evilgrin:

Also re Sanji screentime in quest. I hope Sanji's perving is toned down here. I know its kinda an Anime archetype but he still goes extremely creepy with for ex wanting invisible devil fruit to stare at naked girls etc

It will be. Brook's too, I have something special planned for that.

I hate the pervert archetype myself, and characters like that will be toned down or sidelined.


This is a good place to say it - ask questions here about power interactions/questions you have about mechanics on Mayim and even Mahon. I'll be working on the informational post for those before I write 2.26. Having plenty of material to think about and consider for that would be good - I'd rather not have a post that's just 'nope, Awakening's a ways off, more content to be added later!'

There are already characters I have in mind to add clarification for - Mystique's been mentioned by me before, Quicksilver won't let you bypass the 7 action limit, etc., but I could always use more questions just to have them all put in one place.

EDIT: This will likely be my last post for today until the evening - I'll be around, lurking, but won't have the availability to answer questions.
 
I forget and I can't find it in the search, but does letting themselves get punched/knocked out count as defeating someone?
 
Also re Sanji screentime in quest. I hope Sanji's perving is toned down here. I know its kinda an Anime archetype but he still goes extremely creepy with for ex wanting invisible devil fruit to stare at naked girls etc
Sanji normally a perfect gentleman. If you just look at his words and actions and ignore the over the top art style with eye hearts and spinning legs he is the soul of courtesy.
 
@jcw3 I mentioned write-in options for Physics, Masonry, Construction, and Architecture if possible at one point. Most likely theory books or internet surfing anyway for now. Unless you want me (or someone else) to do our own Write-Ins for some options, once we get to them?

Disguise 7 means she can pretty much shape-shift with makeup already.

Very, VERY much this. You may be shocked how good make-up can DRASTICALLY change how someone looks like. And Taylor is in supernatural theory, so yes, she may look however she wants at this point.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJb47igmaG4

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcWidXocG1c

Yeah.

This has been less true than in canon in this quest - see how Clockwork Island was a bit of a clusterfuck, for example.

Honestly, it's kind of weird how organized those fight picks are in canon One Piece, taking into account how chaotic the forces of nature's Straw Hats can be. I feel like doing it the way you do feels more natural.

But if facing Glory Girl, and both are out for blood, I don't think I've seen speed feats from Victoria impressive enough to convince me she could blitz current Factota. So the likely end result is that two very rapid punches in quick succession hit the shield, the first breaks one of Taylor's hands, and then another punch with the left hand splatters her. In a friendly sparring match (possible and likely if you improve relations with New Wave*), I suspect Taylor still comes out on top, but finds it an educational experience.

The only speed feat I remember from canon is this one:

Speed

Can fly around 80mph

Interlude 2.x

Moves as a "blur"

Agitation 3.11
At the same moment I uttered the word 'Who', one of the windows at the side of the bank shattered. A blur of white and gold slammed into the center of the lobby hard enough to send fragments of marble tile skittering over the floor to my feet, halfway across the room.
There were very few things, in Victoria Dallon's estimation, that were cooler than flying. The invisible forcefield that extended a few millimeters over her skin and clothes just made it better. The field kept the worst of the chill from touching her, but still let her feel the wind on her skin and in her hair. Bugs didn't splat against her face like they did against car windshields, even when she was pushing eighty miles an hour.

80 miles per hour by superhuman standards is surprisingly mild, seeing some other parahuman examples.

*No, this would not give you Victoria's power. Friendly sparring matches with allies will not give you powers. I remember in a past thread, someone asked something to the effect of 'can we get ourselves Mastered and kill our allies that way to get their powers?' I may be being uncharitable with that memory, but it's those kind of suggestions that really go against the spirit of the quest.

To be clear - I'm happy if the answer is no, but it's me simply being curious, as let's be honest - there are so many evil/neutral options around, that we can get all kinds of powers anyway. If someone would let's say control Vicky, and use her to attack us, while we defeat her, would this count?

I'm taking it a bit easy going forward - I might do rolls if Final Preparations is still winning on Thursday, but I'm giving myself a bit more of a break between updates. So if y'all are bandwagoning for faster updates, that's probably not going to be as effective as you want lol.

Lol, not really. This time I simply went with a vote I'm fine with. Previously I suggested my own vote. Also as someone who REALLY struggles with consistent writing myself, I know the pain, and I'm far more understanding than many other people on the subject.

Hmmm... We need to learn Strategy and Logistics. Not sure if those are applicable skills that we can learn or are already covered, but long-term planning will be key.

Physics, Masonry, Construction, and Architecture are something I would also add in, but I guess Masonry may fall under construction anyway.

Something I would also add to the list is Military Science - sooner or later Taylor will get in close contact with governments/military groups, and knowing how they could also react to Taylor not only politically, but with force, maybe a valuable thing to know. Also, I suspect groups like SHIELD or World Government would fall under this, with how militant they can be. Should also grant knowledge and know-how about anything military related in technology.

This is an interesting one piece convention. In bet it would feel odd if we could so easily incapacitate mooks without really hurting them using swords. I don't know if that is because of Mayin toughness or some other difference, but it is clear things just work differently in different worlds.

I would also mention that we may see something similar in X-Men Evolution as well. Not to the extreme of Mayim, but may still be there.

Sufficiently trained 'badass normals' in universes like Marvel / DC can absolutely break through human peaks as we know them. Yes, I talk about you as well, Batman. 'Normal' my ass. Some mooks can also take surprising beatings in some cases.

This remind me. Isn't it about time that we make a new sword, for that one we lost.
Also didn't someone say in the the other threads, that the swords we had right now isn't up to the task.

Fun suggestions for a potential social. Crafting our own badass blade.
There are already characters I have in mind to add clarification for - Mystique's been mentioned by me before, Quicksilver won't let you bypass the 7 action limit, etc., but I could always use more questions just to have them all put in one place.

I can imagine the potential headache if Naruto and Shadow Clones would be unlocked. Yet another reason to avoid it, lol.

Any questions? Hmmm... if we beat Magneto, do we only get his Magnetism as the power, or do we end up with more options? His X-Men Evolution is one of the weaker versions of the character, but depending on the version he can even get powers like light manipulation. Magneto is more than skilled and experienced enough to pull off a good impression of the Eidolon, as long as he is one of the versions that has lots of powers (like Ultimate or Classic ones).

Or it may be some sort of 'dice roll' to decide what we get from characters that have several powers to give.

Sanji normally a perfect gentleman. If you just look at his words and actions and ignore the over the top art style with eye hearts and spinning legs he is the soul of courtesy.

Very much this.
 
You shake your head. "I've got alternative means," you say. If there was anyone to show off in front of… You give a quick glance to the apartment, before you sprint towards it, Fitness, Running, Acrobatics, and Freerunner synergizing to let you scale a four story building in the space of fifteen seconds, before you break out into a sprint, jumping rooftop to rooftop, only occasionally pausing to get a grip in the side of a structure with a story difference. You hear Sophia murmur 'holy shit' as you do, and you allow yourself that petty bit of oneupmanship.
Somehow this remind me of this video

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRaly9tk8v0

Also this theme song would fit this Taylor well good.

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_75Gjpmi1k

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6xWSSaYecQ
 
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