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How much attention is TRIST paying to pruning unproductive projects? A bunch of students and junior engineers tossed into a government-funded organization seems like a recipe for them to quickly develop a mess of redundant projects all loudly competing for more budget and personnel, and all ready to spend hours telling everyone how their project will be completely revolutionary as soon as they can get it working.
 
As much as I might complain, though, working in TRIST was a pretty sweet deal for a Spriggan who'd picked his race before figuring out that the Gnomes and Leprechauns were the game's designated crafting specialists.
This is why you always read the manual/tutorial.
Now, the TRIST and the boys over in the Metalurgy Team had been working their asses off to breed a better beast of gun
Metallurgy.
Right now, making a cannon was a multi-step process. A foundry like our Metallurgy Team would make a mold, cast a cannon blank, and then ream it out in four stages to get the bore as clean as possible. They'd started at nearly three weeks to build a single sixteen-libre gun, but thanks to managing to scare up a set of Dark Anmaglam boring bars and some good Gnomish boys to run the hand-crank systems, they had managed to break it down to one week. That didn't change the fact we were making Keller sixteen-libres out of good cast iron and low-grade steel. Our metalurgy had managed to keep the gun-founders from pushing for three hundred libre of metal to one libre of shot, but getting that ratio down was critical.
Yeah, making cannons isn't a small project.
 
How much attention is TRIST paying to pruning unproductive projects? A bunch of students and junior engineers tossed into a government-funded organization seems like a recipe for them to quickly develop a mess of redundant projects all loudly competing for more budget and personnel, and all ready to spend hours telling everyone how their project will be completely revolutionary as soon as they can get it working.

The amount of pruning and anglamation is probably directly proportional to the ammount of demand for funds, tools, and manpower in my eyes. TRIST is the sort of organization that hires people with axes to grind, and if you don't have one on signing in, they'll bloody well give you one. Catch is, you can't stomp on things too hard, or people will get ballsy and try and go private with their stuff. That's why my main conflict motive is all about making sure Kenaz is in the best position before he presents, and is working with proven tech as much as possible. The big thing is the matter of scale, and Kenaz is "only" proposing a thousandfold increase in weight of metal being handled. Considering the absolute nightmare getting large sheets of metal to roll correctly is (accounting for deflection in the roller is a bitch apparently) he understands that it's not going to be coming unless he can make damn sure that there's a way to make sure the task fails successfully.

Yeah, making cannons isn't a small project.

I even downsized it, to boot. Right now my going assumption is that the Albish have managed to get Mueller's gunnery reforms online, which is where most of their superiority comes from, despite the fact this is a solid... oh, forty years ahead of time. This brings us down to a 'mere' 187 pounds of metal in the gun per pound of shot, versus the Tristanians at three hundred pounds of metal in the gun per shot. The Fae Field Artillery can probably cut that down to 200 pounds of metal per pound of shot with wrought iron guns, but those will be definitively inferior to bronze pieces. The one area that the Tristanian guns don't suck as much as Aban guns is going to be precision: OTL English doctrine required gunners to be able to pull their shot, so that meant the bore of a given gun was to be 21 parts of 20 parts shot. In plain terms, a 4.00" ball would get a 4.20" bore; versus a French gun with a 4.18" ball and 4.34" bore (which was doctrinally 26:27 shot: bore)

One of my small innovations, which is probably never going to have an effect, is post-Crash the cannon industry probably moves to pure bore drilling, instead of the previous partial bore casting process. This one I'm leaving in, since it's an easy enough fix and a magic metal cutting tip for your boring bars isn't that hard to swing.
 
Low level non lethal combat spells are probably also viewed as mandatory self defense. Things like barriers and bindings. Or Leafa's <<Concussion Shot>> which is basically the non lethal version of <<Wind Shrike>>.

Edit : The big concern is how you prevent Faeries from using extremely powerful magic irresponsibly or outright murderously.

Like the last thing you need is some suicidal nut bucket deciding to trigger self destruct in the middle of Arrun Tower and I really don't have a solution to that seeing as Fae don't really NEED a foci for magic.

I always figured that, given the wide use of dispel magic in their arsenal and the modularity of their magic system, the development of it that we're starting to see would result in them developing things like anti-magic fields and such like. Just enough to turn off certain magic for those not strong enough to punch through it.

Though there is also the simple reality that if someone wants mass casualties they can generally get them and societies always (sooner or later, IRL because of developing technology, here because of magic) have to deal with their populations mental health well enough to eliminate those who are willing to do such things.
 
Though I recall it being mentioned by TH a while back that some very basic spells would be innate/very easy for even children to pull off. Like Cait children instinctively casting 'Beast transformation' to turn into cats/kittens resulting in a mad dash by their caretakers to try and corral the little hellions.

The real dicy ones on the other hand could be Puca. After all, their magic isn't about precise incantations but song and music. So depending on how natural it is for them to figure out magical cadences, child-proofing for Puca could get interesting.

Gotta be careful with those children's songs singalongs, especially non-standard lyrics...

Low level non lethal combat spells are probably also viewed as mandatory self defense. Things like barriers and bindings. Or Leafa's <<Concussion Shot>> which is basically the non lethal version of <<Wind Shrike>>.

Edit : The big concern is how you prevent Faeries from using extremely powerful magic irresponsibly or outright murderously.

Like the last thing you need is some suicidal nut bucket deciding to trigger self destruct in the middle of Arrun Tower and I really don't have a solution to that seeing as Fae don't really NEED a foci for magic.

Mostly, one will have too rely on the rarity of actual "suicide bombers". Also, I assume the spell isn't one prone to being speed cast.
With better understanding of the spell system, it might become possible to set up "security gates" that dispell "pre-loaded/cast" spells, specific spell/spell type/branch debuff/disrupt/negation talismans/artifacts, security personnel with some thing similar...

Designing government/public offices/forums with an eye to mitigating that kind of threat...
 
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I don't think that suicide spell would cause many problems. Isn't this a high-level spell that's now a lot more difficult to learn? Also, the new generation fae would most likely be banned from learning such a spell except for secret fae agents maybe. Probably, there are gonna be restrictions on the destructive spells one can learn as well. I guess the first-generation fae will remain to be the strongest fae demographic.
 
Arrun Parallel Story : Maid in Arrun 14
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Captain Ittetsu' hammered a fist on the iron lockup door. "Key us in!"

"Now Yui-chan, I want you to stand way back with Kuwata, okay?" Leafa instructed her niece sternly.

All of those defense lessons paid off in that moment as Kirigaya Yui nodded her head solemnly. More than anything, she understood what she needed to do, keep out of the way, so that everyone could be safe.

Leafa glanced to the Gnome. Kuwata had his game face on, nostrils flaring as he gave a thumbs up. He'd protect Yui with his life, of that there was no doubt.

"Siesta, you too." The Sylph nodded to the maid servant. "And, are you sure you want to be here? He did hurt you."

Siesta nodded her head. "I do not believe I am in any danger so long as you are here Miss. And I will also ensure the Young Miss does not get any closer than is prudent."

Leafa smiled. "Glad to hear it."

Not that it could possibly be that dangerous. They'd had the Kurotsune contained for over a week. Then again, Suguha thought, they'd had the Kurotsune contained for over a week, and he'd had nothing to do but think of ways to escape.

But when they entered the vaulted stone chamber, the Kurotsune was exactly where they had left him. Looking a week gaunter and more haggard, but just as securely held.

The guards on duty looked alert but Captain Ittetsu squinted, eyeing discarded cards laying beside their chairs. Then looking at the Kurotsune, he grimaced. "Why is the prisoner ungagged?"

"Sir!" One of the on duty Salamander's, a burly new recruit, saluted. "It's just that it's a huge hastle to have to ungag him whenever he starts making noise for water or to use the bedpan. Guess we could just start skipping the bed pan though . . . I mean we only have him a few more d- . . ." The Captain's glare silenced the guard. "R-Right. Sir!"

"Well, has he said anything since you ungagged him?"

"Other than asking for water." The guard shook head. "And the bedpan. When we give him food he eats. When we give him water he drinks. Mutters to himself. Real quiet like."

"Hmm." The Captain nodded. "You'll make sure to gag him, and keep him gagged, once we're done."

"Sir!"

"Well Kirigaya." Ittetsu looked at Leafa. "This is your show. So let's try it again."

"Right!"

"Gino, you and wolf backstop, just in case." Ittetsu instructed, waving the extra guards he'd brough along to enter the cell first. Only when everything was fully prepared did he and Leafa approach.

The Kurotsune's head hung low, his wild autumn hair screening his eyes. His lips moved silently, as if he were in some inner conversation. But as soon as they crossed the threshold of the cell, he spoke.

"I am visted again by a spirit of the winds and the ghost of a giant. Come to ask me more questions?"

"The same questions." Ittetsu growled.

"Ah." The Kurotsune nodded slowly. "The very definition of insanity." Then he frowned, his fox ears piqued as he looked up at Leafa. His eyes were brown red, like autumn leaves, and there was a slight vertical oval to his pupils.

"Maybe not." The Captain said. "We're going to try a little quid pro quo."

"Oh?" The Sionach tilted his head, but his gaze never left Leafa.

"All we want is for you to cooperate in returning what you stole." Leafa stepped in. "Helping to reduce the damages could see your sentence lightened. Can you tell use what you did with everything you've stolen?"

He shrugged, as much as was possible in his condition. "I . . . forget . . ."

"Did you forget?" Leafa asked. "Or are you withholding that information because you want something from us? Your freedom?"

"I cannot imagine you would give me that just for returning some bobbles." The Kurotsune almosted seemed to chuckle. Though there was no mirth on his small mean face.

"But it's all you have to bargain with. Then there's something else. Something more important to you than your freedom. But your afraid to tell us too. Because you don't trust us." The Sylph insisted, receiving a dark look from the Kurotsune. "The Tomoe you attacked Siesta for. Why is it so important?"

"I already told you." He hissed, nose twitching, ears flattening. Those oval pupils were growing smaller and sharper.

"It's not the only Tomoe you've tried to steal." Leafa continued. "You've stolen dozens, maybe hundreds. But this one was so important that you risked exposing yourself to approach me. You were even willing to go after Siesta just days later. You're not stupid, you must have known it was risky. If you tell me why it's important than maybe we can help."

"I already told you . . . It is that which sees what is essential, what is . . ."

"The heart!"

The Kurotsune's eye widened as Leafa produced the item he must have always suspected she was holding from inside of her coat.

"It is only with the heart that one sees rightly." Leafa repeated the words from her niece's story book. "Anything essential is invisible to the eye. This Tomoe . . . But it's not really the Tomoe that's important is it? There's something else here. Something essential. Something invisible to the eye. The heart sees those things. So the heart is also essential. It can't be seen by the eye!"

"Give. It. To. Me." The Sionach hissed. His pupils were now slits, little flecks of blackness in twin oceans of red. Like a burning autumn forest. He began to tremble, his profile vibrating, rattling the chains that held him in place. He teeth grit in pain as he tried to <<phase shift>>.

The guards lifted their staffs but Captain Ittetsu stayed them. The endless shackles were too much. He stayed in place.

"This is what we have to offer Kurotsune." Captain Ittetsu announced. "Explain yourself, and by the authority vested in me by the Faerie Court . . ." The Captain shook his head as if he was never going to get used to saying that ". . . I will ensure the safety of your Tomoe."

The sionach hissed something.

"What's that?"

"He said . . ." Leafa began.

"It isn't mine! Give. It. To. ME!"

"Oh no. That isn't how this is going to work." The Spriggan leaned close, glowering over the hunched Sidhe. "Think. Think! This is your last chance to make things easier on yourself. Because in a few days you're going to be tried, sentenced, and dragged off to the deepest hole this Kingdom's got. Your only company will be a disfigured psychopath and this Tomoe will end up so deep in a TRIST vault that you will never, EVER, see it again."

The Captain didn't even flinch as the Kurotsune threw back his head, snapping at the air inches from his nose. The wild desperation in his eyes was as raw as ever. But underneath, there was something calculating.

"Bastard." The Sionach muttered. "You bastard." Quieter still.

"Now that you got it out of your system. Ready to talk?"

Again the Kurotsune murmured something, so quiet even Leafa struggled to hear.

"Hmm?" The Captain leaned as close as he dared. Listening as the voice repeated a little louder and in a strange cadence . . .

The Kurotsune exhaled, and the Sylph's eyes focused on the way his breath whitened, the tiny waves of frost that played across his chains.

'Oh no.'

"Captain!" Leafa started to move, rising on the balls of her feet just as the Kurotsune finished a miniscule chant.

So small that nobody had noticed the magic, but repeated over and over for who knew how many hours. This time, a tiny spark ignited beneath the lock buckling one of his chains to the ground. There was a faint -pop- of frozen metal, followed by a -ping- and the rattling of freeing chains.

The blacks of the Kurotsune's eyes expanded from pinpoints to dark light drinking voids as he moved with predator drive.

So many things happened at once.

The guards had gotten complacent with their prisoner, and maybe all of the Captain's vaunted security had been too much of a good thing. They'd laid all these traps, but never really thought about what it would like when they had to fight around them.

The first <<concussion shots>> from the guards shattered the frozen chains as the Sionach twisted himself, using his shackles as a shield and further freeing himself in turn. One chain, shackled around his ankle, was still anchored into the ground, he yanked it taunt to trip a guard into one of the binding traps, then pulled harder on the brittle chain, shattering it, before leaping to his feet and over the entangled guard.

Still half shackled and bound in a straight jacket, the Kurotsune blurred, finally freeing one of his hands with <<phase shift>> as the panicking watchmen stumbled for a safe place on the trapped floor to stand and fight. Their own bindings and dispells interfered now as the Kurotsune moved around them, his free hand came up in a glitter of runes and suddenly the whole world went black.

'A smoke screen!' Leafa thought. But she was far from helpess, sharpening her gaze until the currents came to her, the faint eddies and movement that would betray the Sionach even in pitch darkness.

Here too, Leafa saw the weakness of their measures playing out. The Kurotsune had spent all of his time lulling them into compacency and memorizing the locations of all their traps. Now, with the guards blinded, he move through them on memory, throwing and kicking guards into their own binds as he made a circle of the room.

"Leafa get down!" GiNo shouted as Akela flared brightly enough to be seen even in the smoke, revealing the wrippling profile of the Kurotsune pouncing, aiming not for Leafa, but the Tomoe in her hand.

Then something grabbed the Sylph by the back of the collar. She was pulled to safey, the Tomoe flying into the darkness and all was silent for what felt like a long time but couldn't have been more than a few moments as sound reached her ears in the slowly breaking darkness.

It sounded like . . . Crying.

"Where is it?" She heard the Kurotsune's hateful voice breaking into fear.

"W-Where is it?! She had it! I felt it! So where is it?!"

For all the trouble he had caused. For all that he had lacked remorse. As the smoke screen cleared to reveal the Kurotsune, Suguha's heart almost broke for him.

The vicious Sionach thief scrabbled blindly on the floor, tears in his desperation maddened eyes as he tried to find the Tomoe Leafa had dropped and the final piece of the puzzle fell into place.

Why had he only tried to take the Tomoe from Siesta? If he knew what he was looking for, then why hadn't he simply pilfered it from the market nobody the wiser?

'Because the mobs are people.' Suguha as she watched the Kurotsune's eyes slide over the Tomoe like glass, his blindly groping hands batting it into the corner. 'The mobs are people. They're just . . . conditioned.'

"Leafa? Are you alright?!" GiNo shouted in her face. Akella loomed behind the Kurotsune, growling, but the Sionach seemed beyond care. He was so close to what he yearned for. But just as far as he'd ever been. The guards, recovering, moved to restrain the thief once more.

"Stop!"

A commanding voice rang out, and at first Suguha didn't recognize it until she realize it was her own. The watchmen stood, dumbstruck as the young Sylph dusted herself off and was helped to her feet by Gino.

"This is our mighty thief?" The Salamander hardly seemed to believe it.

"I know." Leafa agreed. "But I think I understand . . . Siesta?" Despite the possible danger, the maid servant had stepped into the cell and without prompting had gone to retrieve the Tomoe, then brought it back to the Sylph's waiting hands.

"Miss. May I ask what is happening exactly?"

Leafa closed her eyes, and Suguha thought. She thought about GiNo and Akella. And she thought about Siesta. And she thought about the Kurotsune.

'I need to tame him.' She thought. 'I need to make a connection. But a connection means trust. And trust means . . . Someone has to trust first. I'm the one who wants his trust.' The answer was simple, it just wasn't one she could reach as a watch woman. Only as Suguha.

"Siesta." She composed her thoughts. "The Kurotsune has hurt you. And he's hurt many other people without any remorse for what he's done. He is not a good person. And he doesn't deserve your forgiveness. But . . ."

"He's in pain. Isn't he?" The maid said quietly.

"He's . . . Under a terrible enchantment." Leafa answered. "But I think I know how to break it. Would you . . . Like to help me?" Siesta nodded and together they came to stand before the pitiful form of the Sionach Sidhe, almost curled into a ball on the stone floor, sobbing and shaking.

Together they kneeled down and together each of them took one of his hands. And together they both placed the Tomoe.

"Mister Kurotsune, This matters to you so much more than it does to me." Siesta said. "So I would like you to have it."

And the Sionach's shaking stilled. And his palms closed around the cool smooth charm in his hands. And Leafa looked into the raw red eyes that couldn't believe what they were seeing.

"You're . . . giving this . . . to me?" His eyes darted between the human and the Sylph. "Why?"

"I don't think it was ever mine." Siesta answered. "I may only be a commoner . . . But I'm not blind."

"No." The Sionach shook his head. "Not blind at all, Miss. You, both of you, see rightly." Then taking the Tomoe he touched it to his brow. "My Flatha." He whispered. "My Princess . . ."

"Is that what the Tomoe is?" Leafa asked him. "Flatha . . . It's her heart." Someone who he loved dearly. Someone he'd do anything to protect.

He seemed calm now. Beyond caring. The madness that had driven him had melted away, and the guards, even Captain Ittetsu were still for these few precious moments.

"A long time ago, I decided to go on a journey and I left Flatha behind. She was always so difficult. Expecting me to cater to her whims and wishes. And so ungrateful when I did. She was only a little thing, with just her ridiculous nails and teeth to protect herself. Yet she insisted she did not need me when I left. The only thing she thought to do was to give me a charm for my jouney. She told me it was just a triffle and that I should throw it away if I did not care . . ."

He shook his head.

"But it wasn't just a trifle at all. Flatha gave me her heart for safe keeping and when I lost it I could not find it among all the others. I did not know her heart from any other! I look back now and I think . . ." He choked. "I think now . . . That I did not know how to love her properly. I . . . I still do not know . . ."

He looked at the two of them, tired, and wretched, and grateful.

"That's what you were afraid of. That we'd see her as a treasure to lock away. We won't take Flatha's heart from you." Leafa promised. "And if there's anything we can do, to help her, then we will, I promise you, Kurotsune."

"Brenhen." The Kurotsune said.

Leafa tilted her head.

"My name is Brenhen."

"Well then, Brenhen." Leafa said softly as the guards came to restrain him, gently this time, as if everyone sensed the formality of it all. "Why don't we take a short rest. And then I have some questions for you."

And Brenhen, meeting her eyes, nodded.
 
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Ah, so it does seems to be a scenario something like that of the "Mermaid's Ring" from the Beach Episode, where the Mermaid leader was still searching for her husband, who never really existed.

Brehen though was stuck searching for his treasure, presumably unable to actually see the artifact unless in someone else's possession. At least, not until someone actually gives it too him. Because his "backstory" likely proclaimed he was forever searching for what he'd lost, but couldn't find it. That is one nasty mental tangle to be stuck in. Flatha unfortunately is probably like the Mermaid's husband, only having existed in his mind. The thing is, since according to WOG there are only a few Sionnach, they were probably all quest givers... And likely not all of them as straightforward as a treasure hunt.
 
"Sir!" One of the on duty Salamander's, a burly new recruit, saluted. "It's just that it's a huge hassle to have to ungag him whenever he starts making noise for water or to use the bedpan. Guess we could just start skipping the bed pan though . . . I mean we only have him a few more d- . . ." The Captain's glare silenced the guard. "R-Right. Sir!"
Yeah, that guy is getting latrine duty. And FTFY.
"It is only with the heart that one sees rightly." Leafa repeated the words from her niece's story book. "Anything essential is invisible to the eye. This Tomoe . . . But it's not really the Tomoe that's important is it? There's something else here. Something essential. Something invisible to the eye. The heart sees those things. So the heart is also essential. It can't be seen by the eye!"

"Give. It. To. Me." The Sionach hissed. His pupils were now slits, little flecks of blackness in twin oceans of red. Like a burning autumn forest. He began to tremble, his profile vibrating, rattling the chains that held him in place. He teeth grit in pain as he tried to <<phase shift>>.
Hmm, interesting.
So small that nobody had noticed the magic, but repeated over and over for who knew how many hours. This time, a tiny spark ignited beneath the lock buckling one of his chains to the ground. There was a faint -pop- of frozen metal, followed by a -ping- and the rattling of freeing chains.
Oh shit. Relatively ethical imprisonment is very hard.
The vicious Sionach thief scrabbled blindly on the floor, tears in his desperation maddened eyes as he tried to find the Tomoe Leafa had dropped and the final piece of the puzzle fell into place.

Why had he only tried to take the Tomoe from Siesta? If he knew what he was looking for, then why hadn't he simply pilfered it from the market nobody the wiser?

'Because the mobs are people.' Suguha as she watched the Kurotsune's eyes slide over the Tomoe like glass, his blindly groping hands batting it into the corner. 'The mobs are people. They're just . . . conditioned.'
He can't see it unless it is being held by someone.
Together they kneeled down and together each of them took one of his hands. And together they both placed the Tomoe.

"Mister Kurotsune, This matters to you so much more than it does to me." Siesta said. "So I would like you to have it."

And the Sionach's shaking stilled. And his palms closed around the cool smooth charm in his hands. And Leafa looked into the raw red eyes that couldn't believe what they were seeing.

"You're . . . giving this . . . to me?" His eyes darted between the human and the Sylph. "Why?"

"I don't think it was ever mine." Siesta answered. "I may only be a commoner . . . But I'm not blind."

"No." The Sionach shook his head. "Not blind at all, Miss. You, both of you, see rightly." Then taking the Tomoe he touched it to his brow. "My Flatha." He whispered. "My Princess . . ."

"Is that what the Tomoe is?" Leafa asked him. "Flatha . . . It's her heart." Someone who he loved dearly. Someone he'd do anything to protect.
Oh. Oh! He's pretty much still caught in the position placed on him by the game system. Basically he's a quest giver that is endlessly waiting for his quest to be fulfilled.
"Well then, Brenhen." Leafa said softly as the guards came to restrain him, gently this time, as if everyone sensed the formality of it all. "Why don't we take a short rest. And then I have some questions for you."

And Brenhen, meeting her eyes, nodded.
Quest Completed.
 
Honestly, self-destruct spells seem like they'd be not that big a deal in the future. Since everything is real there's no menu to show them the words needed for spells any more and learning one by trial and error, even with understanding of the magic system, is pretty clearly nonviable with the whole blowing your self up part if you got it right. Even more so that with homemade explosives. It'd be the other high level AoE spells you'd have to worry about.

I guess someone could theoretically have a Transition'd fae teach them but that's a good decade plus down the line to hammer in why it's a bad idea.
In the near term it would be a bigger threat from players who knew the spells pre-transition, but they seem like they'd tend more to the 'I want to go home' types rather than people wanting mass casualties. And then Rip Jack would be the really edge case between being antisocial enough to take his guild out to the middle on nowhere and then being sole survivor on top of that.
 
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Honestly, self-destruct spells seem like they'd be not that big a deal in the future. Since everything is real there's no menu to show them the words needed for spells any more and learning one by trial and error, even with understanding of the magic system, is pretty clearly nonviable with the whole blowing your self up part if you got it right. Even more so that with homemade explosives. It'd be the other high level AoE spells you'd have to worry about.

I guess someone could theoretically have a Transition'd fae teach them but that's a good decade plus down the line to hammer in why it's a bad idea.
In the near term it would be a bigger threat from players who knew the spells pre-transition, but they seem like they'd tend more to the 'I want to go home' types rather than people wanting mass casualties. And then Rip Jack would be the really edge case between being antisocial enough to take his guild out to the middle on nowhere and then being sole survivor on top of that.

'Fraid not. We've had it from multiple Fae that you can learn a spell without casting it. That was how Asuna learned Beast Form for the beach episode but didn't know her form ahead of time.
 
'Fraid not. We've had it from multiple Fae that you can learn a spell without casting it. That was how Asuna learned Beast Form for the beach episode but didn't know her form ahead of time.
I don't have time to go back and find the quote, but wasn't that because Kirito taught her the words?

There's quite a difference between being told something that works and trying to guess at what works when you can't actually test it without deading yourself.
 
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Ok, thought: the tomoe 'is like' Yui, right? We know it is the 'heart' of this poor dude's love, and we know there's a *ton* more data in it than the would have been in a wedding ring.

What would it take to have this heart unpacked into an actual person, the way Yui unpacked from Kirito's nerve gear memory? Intervention of Bishop, or do we think Yui might be able to do it on her own, given her experience in reconstruction of characters from data in the fight where Heathcliff reappeared?

Because I'm thinking that there might be a few more cards for Leafa to play in turning an enemy into an ally here.
 
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Captain Ittetsu' hammered a fist on the iron lockup door. "Key us in!"

"Now Yui-chan, I want you to stand way back with Kuwata, okay?" Leafa instructed her niece sternly.

All of those defense lessons paid off in that moment as Kirigaya Yui nodded her head solemnly. More than anything, she understood what she needed to do, keep out of the way, so that everyone could be safe.

Leafa glanced to the Gnome. Kuwata had his game face on, nostrils flaring as he gave a thumbs up. He'd protect Yui with his life, of that there was no doubt.

"Siesta, you too." The Sylph nodded to the maid servant. "And, are you sure you want to be here? He did hurt you."

Siesta nodded her head. "I do not believe I am in any danger so long as you are here Miss. And I will also ensure the Young Miss does not get any closer than is prudent."

Leafa smiled. "Glad to hear it."

Not that it could possibly be that dangerous. They'd had the Kurotsune contained for over a week. Then again, Suguha thought, they'd had the Kurotsune contained for over a week, and he'd had nothing to do but think of ways to escape.

But when they entered the vaulted stone chamber, the Kurotsune was exactly where they had left him. Looking a week gaunter and more haggard, but just as securely held.

The guards on duty looked alert but Captain Ittetsu squinted, eyeing discarded cards laying beside their chairs. Then looking at the Kurotsune, he grimaced. "Why is the prisoner ungagged?"

"Sir!" One of the on duty Salamander's, a burly new recruit, saluted. "It's just that it's a huge hastle to have to ungag him whenever he starts making noise for water or to use the bedpan. Guess we could just start skipping the bed pan though . . . I mean we only have him a few more d- . . ." The Captain's glare silenced the guard. "R-Right. Sir!"

"Well, has he said anything since you ungagged him?"

"Other than asking for water." The guard shook head. "And the bedpan. When we give him food he eats. When we give him water he drinks. Mutters to himself. Real quiet like."

"Hmm." The Captain nodded. "You'll make sure to gag him, and keep him gagged, once we're done."

"Sir!"

"Well Kirigaya." Ittetsu looked at Leafa. "This is your show. So let's try it again."

"Right!"

"Gino, you and wolf backstop, just in case." Ittetsu instructed, waving the extra guards he'd brough along to enter the cell first. Only when everything was fully prepared did he and Leafa approach.

The Kurotsune's head hung low, his wild autumn hair screening his eyes. His lips moved silently, as if he were in some inner conversation. But as soon as they crossed the threshold of the cell, he spoke.

"I am visted again by a spirit of the winds and the ghost of a giant. Come to ask me more questions?"

"The same questions." Ittetsu growled.

"Ah." The Kurotsune nodded slowly. "The very definition of insanity." Then he frowned, his fox ears piqued as he looked up at Leafa. His eyes were brown red, like autumn leaves, and there was a slight vertical oval to his pupils.

"Maybe not." The Captain said. "We're going to try a little quid pro quo."

"Oh?" The Sionach tilted his head, but his gaze never left Leafa.

"All we want is for you to cooperate in returning what you stole." Leafa stepped in. "Helping to reduce the damages could see your sentence lightened. Can you tell use what you did with everything you've stolen?"

He shrugged, as much as was possible in his condition. "I . . . forget . . ."

"Did you forget?" Leafa asked. "Or are you withholding that information because you want something from us? Your freedom?"

"I cannot imagine you would give me that just for returning some bobbles." The Kurotsune almosted seemed to chuckle. Though there was no mirth on his small mean face.

"But it's all you have to bargain with. Then there's something else. Something more important to you than your freedom. But your afraid to tell us too. Because you don't trust us." The Sylph insisted, receiving a dark look from the Kurotsune. "The Tomoe you attacked Siesta for. Why is it so important?"

"I already told you." He hissed, nose twitching, ears flattening. Those oval pupils were growing smaller and sharper.

"It's not the only Tomoe you've tried to steal." Leafa continued. "You've stolen dozens, maybe hundreds. But this one was so important that you risked exposing yourself to approach me. You were even willing to go after Siesta just days later. You're not stupid, you must have known it was risky. If you tell me why it's important than maybe we can help."

"I already told you . . . It is that which sees what is essential, what is . . ."

"The heart!"

The Kurotsune's eye widened as Leafa produced the item he must have always suspected she was holding from inside of her coat.

"It is only with the heart that one sees rightly." Leafa repeated the words from her niece's story book. "Anything essential is invisible to the eye. This Tomoe . . . But it's not really the Tomoe that's important is it? There's something else here. Something essential. Something invisible to the eye. The heart sees those things. So the heart is also essential. It can't be seen by the eye!"

"Give. It. To. Me." The Sionach hissed. His pupils were now slits, little flecks of blackness in twin oceans of red. Like a burning autumn forest. He began to tremble, his profile vibrating, rattling the chains that held him in place. He teeth grit in pain as he tried to <<phase shift>>.

The guards lifted their staffs but Captain Ittetsu stayed them. The endless shackles were too much. He stayed in place.

"This is what we have to offer Kurotsune." Captain Ittetsu announced. "Explain yourself, and by the authority vested in me by the Faerie Court . . ." The Captain shook his head as if he was never going to get used to saying that ". . . I will ensure the safety of your Tomoe."

The sionach hissed something.

"What's that?"

"He said . . ." Leafa began.

"It isn't mine! Give. It. To. ME!"

"Oh no. That isn't how this is going to work." The Spriggan leaned close, glowering over the hunched Sidhe. "Think. Think! This is your last chance to make things easier on yourself. Because in a few days you're going to be tried, sentenced, and dragged off to the deepest hole this Kingdom's got. Your only company will be a disfigured psychopath and this Tomoe will end up so deep in a TRIST vault that you will never, EVER, see it again."

The Captain didn't even flinch as the Kurotsune threw back his head, snapping at the air inches from his nose. The wild desperation in his eyes was as raw as ever. But underneath, there was something calculating.

"Bastard." The Sionach muttered. "You bastard." Quieter still.

"Now that you got it out of your system. Ready to talk?"

Again the Kurotsune murmured something, so quiet even Leafa struggled to hear.

"Hmm?" The Captain leaned as close as he dared. Listening as the voice repeated a little louder and in a strange cadence . . .

The Kurotsune exhaled, and the Sylph's eyes focused on the way his breath whitened, the tiny waves of frost that played across his chains.

'Oh no.'

"Captain!" Leafa started to move, rising on the balls of her feet just as the Kurotsune finished a miniscule chant.

So small that nobody had noticed the magic, but repeated over and over for who knew how many hours. This time, a tiny spark ignited beneath the lock buckling one of his chains to the ground. There was a faint -pop- of frozen metal, followed by a -ping- and the rattling of freeing chains.

The blacks of the Kurotsune's eyes expanded from pinpoints to dark light drinking voids as he moved with predator drive.

So many things happened at once.

The guards had gotten complacent with their prisoner, and maybe all of the Captain's vaunted security had been too much of a good thing. They'd laid all these traps, but never really thought about what it would like when they had to fight around them.

The first <<concussion shots>> from the guards shattered the frozen chains as the Sionach twisted himself, using his shackles as a shield and further freeing himself in turn. One chain, shackled around his ankle, was still anchored into the ground, he yanked it taunt to trip a guard into one of the binding traps, then pulled harder on the brittle chain, shattering it, before leaping to his feet and over the entangled guard.

Still half shackled and bound in a straight jacket, the Kurotsune blurred, finally freeing one of his hands with <<phase shift>> as the panicking watchmen stumbled for a safe place on the trapped floor to stand and fight. Their own bindings and dispells interfered now as the Kurotsune moved around them, his free hand came up in a glitter of runes and suddenly the whole world went black.

'A smoke screen!' Leafa thought. But she was far from helpess, sharpening her gaze until the currents came to her, the faint eddies and movement that would betray the Sionach even in pitch darkness.

Here too, Leafa saw the weakness of their measures playing out. The Kurotsune had spent all of his time lulling them into compacency and memorizing the locations of all their traps. Now, with the guards blinded, he move through them on memory, throwing and kicking guards into their own binds as he made a circle of the room.

"Leafa get down!" GiNo shouted as Akela flared brightly enough to be seen even in the smoke, revealing the wrippling profile of the Kurotsune pouncing, aiming not for Leafa, but the Tomoe in her hand.

Then something grabbed the Sylph by the back of the collar. She was pulled to safey, the Tomoe flying into the darkness and all was silent for what felt like a long time but couldn't have been more than a few moments as sound reached her ears in the slowly breaking darkness.

It sounded like . . . Crying.

"Where is it?" She heard the Kurotsune's hateful voice breaking into fear.

"W-Where is it?! She had it! I felt it! So where is it?!"

For all the trouble he had caused. For all that he had lacked remorse. As the smoke screen cleared to reveal the Kurotsune, Suguha's heart almost broke for him.

The vicious Sionach thief scrabbled blindly on the floor, tears in his desperation maddened eyes as he tried to find the Tomoe Leafa had dropped and the final piece of the puzzle fell into place.

Why had he only tried to take the Tomoe from Siesta? If he knew what he was looking for, then why hadn't he simply pilfered it from the market nobody the wiser?

'Because the mobs are people.' Suguha as she watched the Kurotsune's eyes slide over the Tomoe like glass, his blindly groping hands batting it into the corner. 'The mobs are people. They're just . . . conditioned.'

"Leafa? Are you alright?!" GiNo shouted in her face. Akella loomed behind the Kurotsune, growling, but the Sionach seemed beyond care. He was so close to what he yearned for. But just as far as he'd ever been. The guards, recovering, moved to restrain the thief once more.

"Stop!"

A commanding voice rang out, and at first Suguha didn't recognize it until she realize it was her own. The watchmen stood, dumbstruck as the young Sylph dusted herself off and was helped to her feet by Gino.

"This is our mighty thief?" The Salamander hardly seemed to believe it.

"I know." Leafa agreed. "But I think I understand . . . Siesta?" Despite the possible danger, the maid servant had stepped into the cell and without prompting had gone to retrieve the Tomoe, then brought it back to the Sylph's waiting hands.

"Miss. May I ask what is happening exactly?"

Leafa closed her eyes, and Suguha thought. She thought about GiNo and Akella. And she thought about Siesta. And she thought about the Kurotsune.

'I need to tame him.' She thought. 'I need to make a connection. But a connection means trust. And trust means . . . Someone has to trust first. I'm the one who wants his trust.' The answer was simple, it just wasn't one she could reach as a watch woman. Only as Suguha.

"Siesta." She composed her thoughts. "The Kurotsune has hurt you. And he's hurt many other people without any remorse for what he's done. He is not a good person. And he doesn't deserve your forgiveness. But . . ."

"He's in pain. Isn't he?" The maid said quietly.

"He's . . . Under a terrible enchantment." Leafa answered. "But I think I know how to break it. Would you . . . Like to help me?" Siesta nodded and together they came to stand before the pitiful form of the Sionach Sidhe, almost curled into a ball on the stone floor, sobbing and shaking.

Together they kneeled down and together each of them took one of his hands. And together they both placed the Tomoe.

"Mister Kurotsune, This matters to you so much more than it does to me." Siesta said. "So I would like you to have it."

And the Sionach's shaking stilled. And his palms closed around the cool smooth charm in his hands. And Leafa looked into the raw red eyes that couldn't believe what they were seeing.

"You're . . . giving this . . . to me?" His eyes darted between the human and the Sylph. "Why?"

"I don't think it was ever mine." Siesta answered. "I may only be a commoner . . . But I'm not blind."

"No." The Sionach shook his head. "Not blind at all, Miss. You, both of you, see rightly." Then taking the Tomoe he touched it to his brow. "My Flatha." He whispered. "My Princess . . ."

"Is that what the Tomoe is?" Leafa asked him. "Flatha . . . It's her heart." Someone who he loved dearly. Someone he'd do anything to protect.

He seemed calm now. Beyond caring. The madness that had driven him had melted away, and the guards, even Captain Ittetsu were still for these few precious moments.

"A long time ago, I decided to go on a journey and I left Flatha behind. She was always so difficult. Expecting me to cater to her whims and wishes. And so ungrateful when I did. She was only a little thing, with just her ridiculous nails and teeth to protect herself. Yet she insisted she did not need me when I left. The only thing she thought to do was to give me a charm for my jouney. She told me it was just a triffle and that I should throw it away if I did not care . . ."

He shook his head.

"But it wasn't just a trifle at all. Flatha gave me her heart for safe keeping and when I lost it I could not find it among all the others. I did not know her heart from any other! I look back now and I think . . ." He choked. "I think now . . . That I did not know how to love her properly. I . . . I still do not know . . ."

He looked at the two of them, tired, and wretched, and grateful.

"That's what you were afraid of. That we'd see her as a treasure to lock away. We won't take Flatha's heart from you." Leafa promised. "And if there's anything we can do, to help her, then we will, I promise you, Kurotsune."

"Brenhen." The Kurotsune said.

Leafa tilted her head.

"My name is Brenhen."

"Well then, Brenhen." Leafa said softly as the guards came to restrain him, gently this time, as if everyone sensed the formality of it all. "Why don't we take a short rest. And then I have some questions for you."

And Brenhen, meeting her eyes, nodded.
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May I suggest a threadmark? Again. That said, a very interesting chapter. And I'm definitely keen to see how things develop from here.
 
Yes, I'm chucking a molotov through the window for my own amusement.
-MiA Snip-
*Walks out of burning house. Grabs 3 gallon can of lawnmower gas and old zippo from garage.*
"Oh Author-kun, we'd like to have a word with you."
-Next Snip-
"That's better."
Anyway, we've even got a good source on SV for this, so go read it if you want some nice scholarship on the matter: European Pike Formations in the Pike and Shot Age (Late 16c~ Mid 17c) : A Question of Spacing Essay
Da Rulez: SV is not your Lawyer, it is not your Doctor, it is not your Financial Consultant, nor is it your Therapist or any other professional position, and now we must also add SV is not a valid Source for your Thesis paper or a particularly wise place to post excerpts of it for review before submission. -Dr. Knowetaul (PhD of Bullshit, University of Adequate Motion)
The ROI sidestory has a lot of that going on in the background though it was more of a character piece and deconstruction of the 4X hero surrounded by a gaggle of beautiful women. (i.e. what do they see in him? The answer is nothing sexual, Rute is just their boss and they care about him deeply as the kind funny little man that they all stand comfortably taller than :p )
Comedic Charlie's Dysfunctional Angels.
 
Tangantly related, but I was wondering if there were any plans to update the fanfiction.net versions of Halkgenia online? I was going through and culling some old liked fics from my account and noticed that the beach episode is left without the epilogue, and v3 was never finished, let alone any of the refactored stuff.

It obviously does not affect me any more since I now read everything here on SV now, But I figured there might be one or two fans left on ff.net who might not know about the SV version of the story. Hell, its how I found out about SV when one of the readers here sent me a PM on ff.net with a link to the SV version after I left a review on the fic some 4 years or somthing ago.
 
Da Rulez: SV is not your Lawyer, it is not your Doctor, it is not your Financial Consultant, nor is it your Therapist or any other professional position, and now we must also add SV is not a valid Source for your Thesis paper or a particularly wise place to post excerpts of it for review before submission. -Dr. Knowetaul (PhD of Bullshit, University of Adequate Motion)

That only applies to shit that can have meaningful consequence. Being wrong about military history is typically harmless. Unless you're, like, fighting time traveling Nazis.
 
Ok, thought: the tomoe 'is like' Yui, right? We know it is the 'heart' of this poor dude's love, and we know there's a *ton* more data in it than the would have been in a wedding ring.

Well you're not wrong. There's no physical data there. But there is in fact an immensely dense and interconected informational structure recorded in the Tomoe.

Yui was speaking with a degree of brevity that sort of obscures what she was actually thrusting at.

The Tomoe is like her in that it contains a vast amount of deeply intermeshed information. Essentially all of the associations required for an intelligent mob's starting personality.

Including various . . . cognitive patterns copied and lifted from the most convenient available source during the actualization of ALfheim . . .
 
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That only applies to shit that can have meaningful consequence. Being wrong about military history is typically harmless. Unless you're, like, fighting time traveling Nazis.
Pretty sure being wrong on your Thesis would be pretty meaningful for the people 43k into student debt. Or worse a plagiarism check pinging sections of your paper with posts you made yourself. I know my Senior Research Paper in high school ran afoul of the automated anti-plagiarism system for my posts about it on Facebook when I submitted it.
 
Pretty sure being wrong on your Thesis would be pretty meaningful for the people 43k into student debt. Or worse a plagiarism check pinging sections of your paper with posts you made yourself. I know my Senior Research Paper in high school ran afoul of the automated anti-plagiarism system for my posts about it on Facebook when I submitted it.

I mean I assume said essay is just somebody's hobby paper rather than their dissertation.
 
I mean I assume said essay is just somebody's hobby paper rather than their dissertation.
Yeah, but at this point we're both taking the joke too seriously. I mean most people should already know that posts on the internet should not be taken as any kind of authoritative source... they do know that right? *reflects on society and social media for the last decade* Right?
 
I don't have time to go back and find the quote, but wasn't that because Kirito taught her the words?

There's quite a difference between being told something that works and trying to guess at what works when you can't actually test it without deading yourself.

No, she specifically says that she practised by chanting the words without casting it.

Honestly, she hadn't fully expected the spell to work as she was suddenly engulfed in light. Not the first time anyways. She'd practiced the words without the chanting intonation before, but more out of curiosity than anything. She hadn't really tried to use it until now.

Whether chanting intonation is based on intent, on some vocalisation method, or based on intent that manifests for Fae Magic Users as a vocalisation method, we do not know.
 
No, she specifically says that she practised by chanting the words without casting it.



Whether chanting intonation is based on intent, on some vocalisation method, or based on intent that manifests for Fae Magic Users as a vocalisation method, we do not know.
Which isnt the bit I was thinking of since it still begs the question of she got the words from ______. Which IIRC was Kirito.

That's my point in the first paragraph. Without the menu, if no one teaches people the words for the spell then they don't have any way to find out if they have a functional self-destruct spell without blowing themselves up... at which point they can't go and actually suicide bomb anything.
 
Which isnt the bit I was thinking of since it still begs the question of she got the words from ______. Which IIRC was Kirito.

That's my point in the first paragraph. Without the menu, if no one teaches people the words for the spell then they don't have any way to find out if they have a functional self-destruct spell without blowing themselves up... at which point they can't go and actually suicide bomb anything.

So you assume none of the people who know that spell have written it down and there are no spellbooks of any kind in ALO? Also that none of the magical theory being developed and noted to allow spell creation will inevitably lead to people rediscovering such a spell even if all traces are wiped out?

Again, they are not in a video game any more and can do things like sub-critical spells and chant without casting them. It being a self-destruct does not mean that anyone messing around with it will automatically kill themselves.
 
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