I don't think Silica counts as little anymore. Unless her avatars appearance is exactly the same as her SAO one.linkhyrule5 said:
Halkegenia Online. Thread 2!
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Not anymore, but the fact that she survived at all...scope said:
jwolfe_beta
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OK, off topic though I love the good feels in this snip, can you give quick descriptions of the more common mobs that are taking over the ecosystem? Because at the moment I am picturing Dagger Dogs being like that wolf-thing Klein's party killed back in SAO ep 4. Of course the more lethal fauna and flora gives an advantage against invaders. While the locals will learn to deal with the mobs if the Reconquista forces try to move through the forests for stealth they will have problems.
Reconquista force meet large Terrorantula nest with hungry babies.
Terrorantula nest meet lunch.
Reconquista force meet large Terrorantula nest with hungry babies.
Terrorantula nest meet lunch.
GeshronTyler
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Help, the WAFFS are squeezing out of the computer screen like they were Tribbles!!
Seriously though, Trigger, I think you managed to touch all the relevant emotional points there. I also like the little tidbit we saw about the Mobs, and the general situation concerning them in Tristain. Plus, some nice forshadowing of Suguha looking for her own purpose beyond "staying safe" and teaching newbs to fly. They're both important, but when considering that Leafa was fairly well known as a powerful Sylph player, that may not be the best use of her potential.
Interesting that Yui revealed her human form. I liked the way the whole bath scene flowed.
Anyway, good thing Pina's around to watch over everybody. Somebody has to be the mature, adult one, after all.
Seriously though, Trigger, I think you managed to touch all the relevant emotional points there. I also like the little tidbit we saw about the Mobs, and the general situation concerning them in Tristain. Plus, some nice forshadowing of Suguha looking for her own purpose beyond "staying safe" and teaching newbs to fly. They're both important, but when considering that Leafa was fairly well known as a powerful Sylph player, that may not be the best use of her potential.
Interesting that Yui revealed her human form. I liked the way the whole bath scene flowed.
Anyway, good thing Pina's around to watch over everybody. Somebody has to be the mature, adult one, after all.
mdkcde
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Yui is moe~[3 I has become the <s]moe[/s] blob.
Dagger Dogs? I wonder if they are related to Bladewolves.jwolfe said:
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One: They are likely a lot more organic then that.mdkcde said:
Two: What the hell is that thing?
The mutant offspring of a canine zoid and a knife shop?Edit: apparently it is something from metal gear.
Triggerhappy
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I'll write something up tonight. Basically the way I see it is that ALfheim probably reused a lot of monsters from SAO in dungeons and locations they could get away with, i.e. in enclosed space where the players would have to fight on foot and such. Most ground bounds mobs are either very fast, so they can catch players on the ground while they're recharging their wings, or use the elements of surprise to bring targets down. Dagger dogs hunt in packs and will try to surround and dog pile a grounded Faerie, Terrorantula's are ambush hunters who will string an area with super strong silk to pin a Faerie in place. Flying critters will range from nasty flying insects up to very large birds and dangerous birds.jwolfe said:
Actually, the dagger dogs are partially inspired from the wolf-pack aliens from Vernor Vinge's books. Basically packs of seven or eight individuals that communicate with high pitched noises, though not sentient they can coordinate crazy well. The name come from their tendency to use their dexterous mouths to pick up and use simple tools, they particularly like shiny things.
mdkcde
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It is from Metal Gear Rising. I will leave just this link for those interested as to not derail the thread too much.jwolfe said:One: They are likely a lot more organic then that.
Two: What the hell is that thing?
Now this is podracing. Looking forward to this snip.Triggerhappy said:
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Can I have one? So many wonderful blades...mdkcde said:
Triggerhappy
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I'd remind you that Yui is sort of special. All the shit that happened in SAO broke her, literally, and there's no guarantee that she's any stronger now than she was then. Part of the reason for Suguha developing a closer bond with Yui in this fic is because honestly, think how bad it would be for Kirito or Asuna to die, now consider that Yui is probably even LESS equipped to handle their deaths or deal with the fear of their deaths, she literally needs someone to reassure her and promise things will be alright.linkhyrule5 said:
I can't remember who said it but I'll paraphrase. In so much as she can be compared to a human child, Yui is mentally ten, with the life experience of a toddler, was programmed to 'love everybody', and adores her adoptive 'Mama' and 'Papa' who both smother her with affection. Kayaba could not have engineered her to be more of a Moe blob.
GeshronTyler
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Yeah, ALO Mobs are pretty nasty. Like Dragonflies, or even worse, Ladybugs.
GeshronTyler
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Well, there are bound to be some mobs that are benign, some to act as previous "prey" for the Mobs, pleasant atmosphere (ALO isn't supposed to be a "death world" after all), and or are usefull for their body parts. Well, we've got the Terrorantula thread for nylon/kevlar substitute, possibly up to carbon fiber strength. There would likely be something that produces wool as well, though if it would be "normal" sheep or not...
How about something like the Ohmu from Nausicaää? Not in the sense of Forest Guardians, but insectiods large enough that their cast of carapaces are useful for armor, shields, etc. In essence something pretty big, that isn't agressive when not "aggro'd", when it's left alone it doesn't bother anyone.
How about something like the Ohmu from Nausicaää? Not in the sense of Forest Guardians, but insectiods large enough that their cast of carapaces are useful for armor, shields, etc. In essence something pretty big, that isn't agressive when not "aggro'd", when it's left alone it doesn't bother anyone.
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That is something I constantly wonder about Yui's original design and Kayaba's programing. We know that she is a true AI now but did she start off that way? I always saw Cardinal and by extension Yui originally being something that bordered VI and AI. Very good at doing what they were programed to handle but having difficulties outside of that with a limited ability to adapt.Triggerhappy said:
However the orders to lock Yui down put her program in a catch 22. Yes, the purpose of it was likely to prevent Yui from using admin abilities to help the players by logging them out but it started her breakdown. The very meaning of her existence was to help people's emotional state now she has orders from basically God preventing her from doing so. From that data deadlock she broke down and at some point between then and when she said her goodbyes in SAO recompiled into a true AI.
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I strongly doubt that Yui was originally a true AI. I even strongly question whether she had much of a personality. Her avatar at the time was probably nothing more than a front end interface, like the really advanced quest giving NPCs that would link to Cardinal's natural language recognition system so that they could have a 'conversation' with the player. My pet theory is that when Yui was putting herself back together again, her subroutines were still monitoring all of the players, Kirito and Asuna got special attention because they were some of the few people who were almost at peace in Aincrad and so by observing them to the exclusion of everything else, poor broken MCP-001 was able to shut out all of the horrible voices in its head and stagger along towards something resembling functionality. Eventually, Asuna and Kirito became templates on which Yui nascent personality modeled itself. Likewise for the final appearance of her avatar. The final divergence point between MCP-001 and "Yui" was probably when she decided to defy cardinal and attempt to interact with Kirito and Asuna.jwolfe said:
I'm sure there were a few. Most would either have come back the cities once they realized shit got real or have by now met a bad end.Vaermina said:
Especially sucks if they wondered into Gallia and got disappeared into all those darker than black research programs.
Triggerhappy
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1. Most likely most of the pixies would just pick up whatever scraps are available due to hunger at first. When people realize that they're intelligent beings unto themselves, considerably more care will be directed to them, probably including see that they are fed and well taken care of. The problem is, the basic nav pixie personality is so submissive that I doubt most people have noticed anything yet. Suiseki, Argo's pixie, for instance will probably go quite some time before it starts to occur to her that she can speak for herself, god that's going to be an awesome scene to right.queensarrow said:
Suiseki-"Master."
Argo-"Hmm? Did I forget something?"
Suiseki-"No."
Argo-"Then what?"
Suiseki-"The Bread."
Argo-"Bread?"
Suiseki-"I prefer this one. Yui said its tasty, and I agree. Can we get it instead?"
Argo-" . . . "
2. Probably not yet. All I'll say about Kofu and Sakuya is that Sakuya is one of the few faction leaders that Kofu respects. She hates Rute with a passion and keeps trying to convince Morgiana to switch to swords.
3. Because Yui can do something about while Silica can't. Yui is going to be aware of the effects of the things she does, far more than a normal child. Even asking Suguha if she was her aunt might have some ulterior motive in that it nudges Suguha into a role in Yui and Kirito's lives where she can both stay close to her brother in a meaningful way that gives her a role in his life and vise versa, thus putting Suguha at ease, while remaining a total non threat to Kirito relationship with Asuna. Now consider the horror when Yui begins to play matchmaker for Suguha.
TH, the latest snip almost gave me heart attacks from the fluff in at least 3 different sections. I don't know whether I should blame you or congratulate you.
This is pretty much confirmed IMO. Monochrome Concerto (SAO Floor 3 side story, new chapter parts released in magazines right now) have shown giant spiders as Mobs. On a side note, if the SAO veterans hear about elves they'd probably not think of the epic killing-machines as the locals sees them but go "Elves? Wait, you mean those guys from before Floor 10 of Aincrad? Sure, they had some sweet loot, but those weren't that hard to beat..."Triggerhappy said:
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Please specify the sections. I'd love to get your reactions. (Yes I'm an egotist who likes to hear how people have interpreted what I've written.)Flere821 said:TH, the latest snip almost gave me heart attacks from the fluff in at least 3 different sections. I don't know whether I should blame you or congratulate you.
This is pretty much confirmed IMO. Monochrome Concerto (SAO Floor 3 side story, new chapter parts released in magazines right now) have shown giant spiders as Mobs. On a side note, if the SAO veterans hear about elves they'd probably not think of the epic killing-machines as the locals sees them but go "Elves? Wait, you mean those guys from before Floor 10 of Aincrad? Sure, they had some sweet loot, but those weren't that hard to beat..."
And excellent. Now I'm wondering if I can get away with ripping popular mobs from other RPGs, then see how long it takes people to recognize them.
Oh, a few rogues are going to cause very serious problems in the next arc. Including at least one Spriggan "Assassin" Who's gone totally off the freaking rails and arced off into lala land. Basically, you know the people in SAO who used the excuse that we don't "really know" that we're killing people. Yeah, this guy really believes it.Vaermina said:
"Its all a game, it can't be real, if I acknowledge its real it means I killed my girlfriend and best friend, so its all just a game. I'm just pretending to be an assassin, its a game, game! A game! ahahahahaahahaHAAHAHAHAHA!"
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What about the few that didn't, I could see them causing Tristain no end of diplomatic problems in the near future. It could also be a good way for the Elves to find out about the Fae, since I would imagine at least a couple would have headed towards the forbidden desert.Triggerhappy said:
jwolfe_beta
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Horror, train wreak, comedy sketch, who cares.Triggerhappy said:
Morgiana is going to come down so hard on this nutball people are going to notice a minor earthquake and his relatives back on earth will wonder what hit them.Triggerhappy said:
al103
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Argo-"FINALLY!!!!" *attempts to find a way to hug Suiseki without crushing her*Triggerhappy said:
Corrected.
Mostly from Kirito's farewell, with Argo, Silia + Pina, and Suguha (Kirito apologizing about not being a good brother). And the bit at the end with Yui. Though upon re-reading the scores might have been bumped up slightly due to Pina acting like a draconic version of a purring cat.Triggerhappy said:
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Oh nice, just make sure you don't make them all evil or insane. Having the Fae be ordered to stop a rogue Fae who saw injustice being done in some nobles territory and decided to pull a robin hood would be one hell of an epic moral quandary.Triggerhappy said:
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Oh, I'm sure Argo would find the revelation that Suiseki is a self aware 'person' absolutely adorable and do everything in her power to take good care of her.That doesn't mean she won't be as surprised as everyone else when she realizes it.al103 said:
I mentioned before, I'm actually thinking of doing a side story for the next couple of weeks that follows the mage Trio + Suguha, Yui, Klein, Silica+Pina, and KoKo, basically getting sent off on a short side quest. There's been reports of 'wild pixies' around Tarbes, basically a sort of highly intelligence support type mob and the wild version of Nav Pixies, it will also explore how new Nav Pixies will be created in the future.
The painful thing about this arc and the reason I'm including one of my OCs is Louise + KoKo . . . Yeah, that's going to be both cute and painfully heart braking later on.
Only two of them are insane, and only one of them is outright evil.Vaermina said:
The Spriggan assassin "Rip Jack" is in fact supposed to be somewhat sympathetic in the sense that he doesn't deserve hatred any more than a rabid dog. If anything he deserves pity for what's happened to him. The only thing that can be done for him is to put him down as quickly and painlessly as possible.