God Save The Queen (Post-Apocalyptic Britain Quest)

[X] Plan: From the Ashes
[X] James Bond (No relation)
[X] [Past] Member of Parliament. You were one of Parliament's youngest members before the Collapse. Since the Old World ended, you have been running the country's government, establishing it in Winchester when most of the British Isles collapsed into anarchy and chaos. Continuously re-winning the elections you have made sure to keep alive, you have kept most of the old government organisations alive even if they are greatly diminished alongside the rest of the country. The Civil Service, the NHS, MI5, MI6 are all things that continue to exist to this day and it is thanks to you. Alas your feats have come with recognition as the Anglicans to the east have declared a holy war against the United Kingdom to try and extinguish what you have kept alive.
 
[X] Plan: Britain of the World
Adhoc vote count started by Chrestomanci on Apr 23, 2019 at 12:38 PM, finished with 33 posts and 28 votes.

  • [X] Plan: The Industrialist
    -[X] Alexander Dzulkarnain
    -[X] [Past] Aspiring Businessman. You were an aspiring businessman before the Collapse, running a successful business in Hampshire that was going to spread to the rest of the country and maybe aboard. Since the Collapse has happened, you have kept things running. You have ensured that what is left of the United Kingdom has been a major centre of trade and you have kept both railroads and the power grid running in addition to keeping the secret of electricity alive.
    [X] Plan: Britain of the World
    [X] Aarav Smith
    [X] [Past] University Professor. You were a professor at the University of Southampton before the Collapse, the youngest of your colleagues. After the Collapse, you have down your best to keep knowledge alive. You have kept the public school system running and you have made sure that people have remembered how to generate electricity and build computers. The people of the United Kingdom still use plenty of Old World tech in their everyday lives and they are eager to reclaim the level of technology that the Old World had.
    [X] Plan: From the Ashes
    [X] James Bond (No relation)
    [X] [Past] Member of Parliament. You were one of Parliament's youngest members before the Collapse. Since the Old World ended, you have been running the country's government, establishing it in Winchester when most of the British Isles collapsed into anarchy and chaos. Continuously re-winning the elections you have made sure to keep alive, you have kept most of the old government organisations alive even if they are greatly diminished alongside the rest of the country. The Civil Service, the NHS, MI5, MI6 are all things that continue to exist to this day and it is thanks to you. Alas your feats have come with recognition as the Anglicans to the east have declared a holy war against the United Kingdom to try and extinguish what you have kept alive.
    [X] Plan: Rules the waves
    [X] [Name] Adam Clarke
    [X] [Past] Naval Officer. You were a Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy. As older and more senior officers either died or abandoned their posts, you kept the Royal Navy mostly intact and brought it back to the United Kingdom. It is diminished and weakened compared to what it was before the Collapse, but it still exists and thanks to that, Britannia still rules the waves. Something you will teach the Atomic Sons as the French cultists seek to steal your warships once again.
 
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Vote Tally : God Save The Queen (Post-Apocalyptic Britain Quest) - Original | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 4-34]
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[X] Plan: The Industrialist
-[X] Alexander Dzulkarnain
-[X][Past] Aspiring Businessman. You were an aspiring businessman before the Collapse, running a successful business in Hampshire that was going to spread to the rest of the country and maybe aboard. Since the Collapse has happened, you have kept things running. You have ensured that what is left of the United Kingdom has been a major centre of trade and you have kept both railroads and the power grid running in addition to keeping the secret of electricity alive.
No. of Votes: 11
[X] Plan: Britain of the World
[X] Aarav Smith
[X][Past] University Professor. You were a professor at the University of Southampton before the Collapse, the youngest of your colleagues. After the Collapse, you have down your best to keep knowledge alive. You have kept the public school system running and you have made sure that people have remembered how to generate electricity and build computers. The people of the United Kingdom still use plenty of Old World tech in their everyday lives and they are eager to reclaim the level of technology that the Old World had.
No. of Votes: 11
[X] Plan: From the Ashes
[X] James Bond (No relation)
[X][Past] Member of Parliament. You were one of Parliament's youngest members before the Collapse. Since the Old World ended, you have been running the country's government, establishing it in Winchester when most of the British Isles collapsed into anarchy and chaos. Continuously re-winning the elections you have made sure to keep alive, you have kept most of the old government organisations alive even if they are greatly diminished alongside the rest of the country. The Civil Service, the NHS, MI5, MI6 are all things that continue to exist to this day and it is thanks to you. Alas your feats have come with recognition as the Anglicans to the east have declared a holy war against the United Kingdom to try and extinguish what you have kept alive.
No. of Votes: 5
[X] Plan: Rules the waves
[X][Name] Adam Clarke
[X][Past] Naval Officer. You were a Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Navy. As older and more senior officers either died or abandoned their posts, you kept the Royal Navy mostly intact and brought it back to the United Kingdom. It is diminished and weakened compared to what it was before the Collapse, but it still exists and thanks to that, Britannia still rules the waves. Something you will teach the Atomic Sons as the French cultists seek to steal your warships once again.
No. of Votes: 1
Total No. of Voters: 28
 
Ultimately, it comes down to what you want as a starting advantage and what the leader will prioritize. I'm of the opinion that maintaining pre-war infrastructure and economic prosperity will lead to scientific and educational revival to a greater degree - as well as a proficient military, motivated populace, functional government, etc - than having a functional scientific enterprise and education system will cause the latter.
 
Ultimately, it comes down to what you want as a starting advantage and what the leader will prioritize. I'm of the opinion that maintaining pre-war infrastructure and economic prosperity will lead to scientific and educational revival to a greater degree - as well as a proficient military, motivated populace, functional government, etc - than having a functional scientific enterprise and education system will cause the latter.

I'd like the populous to still be able to read and write.

And already having a basic public education system in place is crucial.

Informed voters make for better voters.
 
[X] Plan: Britain of the World
[X] Aarav Smith
[X] [Past] University Professor. You were a professor at the University of Southampton before the Collapse, the youngest of your colleagues. After the Collapse, you have down your best to keep knowledge alive. You have kept the public school system running and you have made sure that people have remembered how to generate electricity and build computers. The people of the United Kingdom still use plenty of Old World tech in their everyday lives and they are eager to reclaim the level of technology that the Old World had.
Indian British university professor.
 
'd like the populous to still be able to read and write.
I think assuming wide-scale illiteracy from our population is a bit hysterical. While things will have obviously declined, and losing the pre-war education system is bad, whether people learn to read and write or not comes down to whether it's needed, if there's material to read, and if they can afford it. We can fund R&D departments, sponsor literacy programs, and posses jobs which encourage educations to acquire.
And already having a basic public education system in place is crucial.

Informed voters make for better voters.
I think we have different priorities here. While In all for a healthy democracy, in the end having our nation be healthy, wealthy, and secure will do a better job of that than making sure everyone can read and clinging on to pre-war shinies.
 
I think assuming wide-scale illiteracy from our population is a bit hysterical. While things will have obviously declined, and losing the pre-war education system is bad, whether people learn to read and write or not comes down to whether it's needed, if there's material to read, and if they can afford it. We can fund R&D departments, sponsor literacy programs, and posses jobs which encourage educations to acquire.

I'm not trying to fearmonger or be "hysterical" here but just trying to be realistic, and realistically without a "need" as you put it for people to know how to read, without the incentive of wanting to preserve knowledge, things will be lost. It will not take long, in which case we'd just be rediscovering what has already been known.
 
I'm not trying to fearmonger or be "hysterical" here but just trying to be realistic, and realistically without a "need" as you put it for people to know how to read, without the incentive of wanting to preserve knowledge, things will be lost. It will not take long, in which case we'd just be rediscovering what has already been known.
So, what exactly is your point? Yes. That's the trade-off for picking the businessmen over the professor. I think remembering how to run trade lanes and maintain railroads, as well as the numerous knock-on benefits a healthy economy entails, is more beneficial than holding on to the educational system and variousness gadgets like computers. I'm not blind to the benefits of wide-scale literacy and SCIENCE! I just believe the situation is serious and people are prioritizing the wrong thing, going for wunderwaffe instead of boots, if you will.
 
So, what exactly is your point? Yes. That's the trade-off for picking the businessmen over the professor. I think remembering how to run trade lanes and maintain railroads, as well as the numerous knock-on benefits a healthy economy entails, is more beneficial than holding on to the educational system and variousness gadgets like computers. I'm not blind to the benefits of wide-scale literacy and SCIENCE! I just believe the situation is serious and people are prioritizing the wrong thing, going for wunderwaffe instead of boots, if you will.

*shrug*

Then we must agree to disagree, because I find preserving/gaining knowledge to be more important than maintaining the railroads. We can build new ones - knowledge, once gone, is hard pressed to be regained.

As for the "benefits of a healthy economy" I would like to point out that economies rise and fall. Even if by going with the professor at first our economy will not be as strong; that can change and be bolstered.
 
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