Glorious Shotgun Princess, Thread 3

Peanuckle said:
Killing the Queen of Hell is also a big no-no.
Well, at least, not yet.

Clearly the real ending of the whole plot of TED's canon marriage escape plan is that Adorjan kills the Empress at the wedding, after silencing the whole area so no one can say their wedding vows, and then laughs at TED because seriously, her excellency has "the unconsidered variable".
 
EarthScorpion said:
Well, at least, not yet.

Clearly the real ending of the whole plot of TED's canon marriage escape plan is that Adorjan kills the Empress at the wedding, after silencing the whole area so no one can say their wedding vows, and then laughs at TED because seriously, her excellency has "the unconsidered variable".
Autochthon: So…you made a remarkably complex plan, which involved the most powerful of the Yozi, which was based on variables of such countless complexity and delicacy…and then you invited Adorjan into it?

The Ebon Dragon: You have no idea how aroused it makes me. My nipples can cut glass.
 
GreggHL said:
Terribly surprised no one picked up on how Norrak mentioned that Path has 'been doing this for almost a century and twenty years.'

Path is an Elder Exalt.
I was curious about it, but I forgot my question by the time that I got back to a computer instead of a phone.

Does this mean that he has been living during the Scarlet Empress' reign? The time differential seems like it's only a few more years at most for the Exalted side of things, which means there was no where enough time for Path to mature to Elder status without time shenanigans or starting before the rest came back.

He must be putting his stealth to good use if it's the latter.
 
GreggHL said:
Autochthon: So…you made a remarkably complex plan, which involved the most powerful of the Yozi, which was based on variables of such countless complexity and delicacy…and then you invited Adorjan into it?

The Ebon Dragon: You have no idea how aroused it makes me. My nipples can cut glass.
Dragons/ World Pantheons have nipples? Huh, learn something new everyday.
 
I've been going back through the old threads and I can't find a discussion on this.. so someone please point out if I missed it.

The title for the story is "Glorious Shotgun Princess." In the actual story, however, Sheppard almost never uses a shotgun.

.. the person who uses one the most is Tali.

Consider where Tali is now. Further consider that Autobot thinks she's valuable enough / smart enough to be a worthy student. Then consider that thanks to her friendship with Sheppard, Tali is likely to be able to survive her "early period" as a Green Sun Prince. Finally consider that Tali doesn't seem to fit the mold of any of the Yozi currently running around the Exalted mythos.

.. and then tell me how likely it is that Tali might survive long enough to become a new, independent Titan ..

Or I am completely off base and Aleph is trying to strangle me through the internet.. Excuse me while I hide..
 
Cytokinesis said:
I was curious about it, but I forgot my question by the time that I got back to a computer instead of a phone.

Does this mean that he has been living during the Scarlet Empress' reign? The time differential seems like it's only a few more years at most for the Exalted side of things, which means there was no where enough time for Path to mature to Elder status without time shenanigans or starting before the rest came back.

He must be putting his stealth to good use if it's the latter.
Or Creation is a lot further on than the canonical Breaking of the Jade Prison. It's entirely possible, since nothing we've had really contradicts that.

Though it's not that surprising either way since Path is, like, the one Night Caste who acts like a Night Caste. :p
 
Nicholai said:
Consider where Tali is now. Further consider that Autobot thinks she's valuable enough / smart enough to be a worthy student. Then consider that thanks to her friendship with Sheppard, Tali is likely to be able to survive her "early period" as a Green Sun Prince. Finally consider that Tali doesn't seem to fit the mold of any of the Yozi currently running around the Exalted mythos.
She also build a miniature Mass Relay by herself... that is a little bit beyond what normal mortals do. ;)
 
SoftRogue said:
Well, considering that they are showing his arousal; as in his body is betraying his mind by showing said arousal...then yes, of course TED would have nipples.

In fact, the mere thought of his body betraying his mind would make TED aroused.
Yeah, let's not start with the flanderising of TED as "BETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYAL AND NOTHING ELSE EVER", shall we? He's also a cosmic yin principle who loves darkness and the doomed, who holds those who change the world even as their doom consumes them dearest to his heart, and who always lies unless the truth hurts more; an antagonistic force who defines himself through opposition, and who understands victory only as a relative term, so that he's happy to lose as long as everyone else loses more, and happy to let you win as long as he wins more.

Which is much more interesting than just a giant 8-ball that comes up with "EVERYTHING I DO IS ABOUT BETRAYING SOMETHING".
 
swordomatic said:
Or Creation is a lot further on than the canonical Breaking of the Jade Prison. It's entirely possible, since nothing we've had really contradicts that.

Though it's not that surprising either way since Path is, like, the one Night Caste who acts like a Night Caste. :p
Our ST refers to games where only Lark and I show up to be the 'Path and Telion comedy hour.'
 
Aleph said:
I read that as "comedy horror".

Given the amount of havoc I suspect they wreak, this might if anything be even more appropriate.
Better analogy is 'Pinky and the Brain.'

Only the Brain here is a frighteningly competent Night Caste tinkerer, and Pinky is an incredibly charismatic martial arts master.
 
Aleph said:
Yeah, let's not start with the flanderising of TED as "BETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYAL AND NOTHING ELSE EVER", shall we? He's also a cosmic yin principle who loves darkness and the doomed, who holds those who change the world even as their doom consumes them dearest to his heart, and who always lies unless the truth hurts more; an antagonistic force who defines himself through opposition, and who understands victory only as a relative term, so that he's happy to lose as long as everyone else loses more, and happy to let you win as long as he wins more.

Which is much more interesting than just a giant 8-ball that comes up with "EVERYTHING I DO IS ABOUT BETRAYING SOMETHING".
It does help that the Dragon is a force of opposition- which means even his allies must have a chance of winning, just as hi enemies. Hence the Reclamation- a powerful force with a chance of freeing the Yozi, but also precarious enough that it can fuckup and seal them in even tighter. The key to the failure of the Reclamation is that the Dragon planned it.
 
Requiem_Jeer said:
Yeah, an awesome crafter that's elder in the second age would have to be real good at the whole 'stealth' thing. He probably has his whole thing a lot more well-hidden then Autocthon's quick finding of it would normally indicate. Or he's slacked off in his security procedures ever since the Empress disappeared, either/or.
Or Auto just found his Decoy Factory Cathedral.
 
Aleph said:
Yeah, let's not start with the flanderising of TED as "BETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYALBETRAYAL AND NOTHING ELSE EVER", shall we? He's also a cosmic yin principle who loves darkness and the doomed, who holds those who change the world even as their doom consumes them dearest to his heart, and who always lies unless the truth hurts more; an antagonistic force who defines himself through opposition, and who understands victory only as a relative term, so that he's happy to lose as long as everyone else loses more, and happy to let you win as long as he wins more.

Which is much more interesting than just a giant 8-ball that comes up with "EVERYTHING I DO IS ABOUT BETRAYING SOMETHING".
You know, thinking about it, this implies that he likes the Exalted quite a bit.
 
Aleph said:
Which is much more interesting than just a giant 8-ball that comes up with "EVERYTHING I DO IS ABOUT BETRAYING SOMETHING".
Shakes ED-ball : "Treason!"

Shakes again : "Betrayal!"

Shakes a third time: "Treachery!"

Throws at the wall : "I win!"

Ball breaks : "Just As Planned!"
 
Destrark said:
"The point I'm getting at here is, they're really smart, but part of their inherent nature also makes them really stupid at times. Up until the Exalted came along, they were powerful enough that nothing could really make them face the consequences of those stupid moments.
The Infernal Exalted were designed by committee.
The Neverborn, to put it very bluntly, have better Exalted for their purposes. They have all the time in the world. The Abyssals are inexorable world-killing weapons. They've got a nice control mechanism, but it really doesn't even matter if it works—the Neverborn think their Abyssals will kill the world even if they're trying not to. They were designed with a unified goal (kill everything), and it's a very simple goal (kill everything) that can be accomplished in an almost infinite variety of ways. It really doesn't matter how they do it. Just wind them up and turn them loose.
That's not the Infernals. The Infernals were designed by five bickering titans whose insanity works at semi-cross-purposes. She Who Lives In Her Name wanted, basically, super-akuma. This would have presented the same problems that already plague the akuma they have. She didn't care. She cannot care about anything more than a place for every thing and every thing in its place. She had to be ordered to stand down from the idea by Malfeas, and that only worked because her place is to do what he says. Malfeas, in turn, wanted to just scream and yell and beat the shit out of the Princes to motivate them, because that's how he motivates everything. He can't, on his own, conceive that them not liking that sort of treatment would matter. The Ebon Dragon, ultimate embodiment of backstabbing fuckery that he is, had to clue the Demon City in on the likely consequences there.
The Infernals are not an ideal design. And they're carrying out a decidedly non-simple goal. And they're not all that elegantly matched to the goal. Instead, they have carrots, and sticks, and these are applied crudely at various intervals. " - Holden, on the Primordials.
Welp. They are worse for the job then the original Solars could ever be for theirs. At least the Solars were created for a specific goal of dealing with the God-Monsters that made Reality..and they were a perfect match for that job.

This is like comparing "Target-Fire-Forget-Kill" missiles (Original Solars) and the "Just Fire-Try To Steer The Fins-Then Forget What Was The Original Goal-Kill Yourself Accidentally With It" missiles that are the Infernals.
TheSandman said:
You know, thinking about it, this implies that he likes the Exalted quite a bit.
Of course! Exalted make Reality interesting and not-boring! They are also perfect random variables that always shuffle the deck and therefore can be great agents of change and general chaos.
 
Destrark said:
"This is like comparing "Target-Fire-Forget-Kill" missiles (Original Solars) and the "Just Fire-Try To Steer The Fins-Then Forget What Was The Original Goal-Kill Yourself Accidentally With It" missiles that are the Infernals."

Can I sig that Durabys?
Sure.

Perhaps I could make it look a little bit more tidy..like this..

This is like comparing "Target-Fire-Forget-Kill" missiles of the original Solars and the "Just Fire-Try To Steer The Fins-Then Forget What Was The Original Goal-Kill Yourself Accidentally With It" missiles that are the Infernals. -Durabys on Solar and Infernal Exalted.

It is inside the sig letter limit, has the link to the quoted post and is graphically small.
 
Destrark said:
Its fine already don't worry.

Gregg, how much of the Exalted campaign you and the others are running with Telion/Path/Kanosak etc's Circle is canon to Glorious Shotgun Princess?
It's complicated. Basically, this is the circle hypothetically in 120 years. Keep in mind, it's not them exactly- we'll get into it, but consider them more inspired than anything.
 
Marsdome_Valkyrie said:
So, assuming that this is taking place at the standard "Empress just disappeared" point, they have been evading the Realm for better than a century?
As Path actually acts like a Night Caste, yes.
 
Marsdome_Valkyrie said:
Damn! I have to wonder how they got and kept a working factory-cathedral without drawing the Wyld Hunt down on their heads though.

Also, where in Creation are they? I'm assuming the East at this point.
They're somewhere in the Scav Lands, about 1000 miles southwest of a Grey Falls. Their capital city, which is named after the wife of the Dawn Caste, is best thought of as Magitech Venice.

Because he told her he would name a city after her.
 
Synapse said:
Overall they aren't. There are far more plausible explanations for why they have a small nation in the scavenger lands without being killed by the wyld hunt.
The most important of them being Creation is really damn huge, "with rivers that would fill up lake victoria in a matter of days" huge. As far as news spread it only takes a moderate care and not be waving around your anima banner all the time and you're already mostly safe from the Hunt.
And even then (cough cough kanosak cough cough) if you're good enough you can erase all evidence of said anima banner.
 
Simonbob said:
Hm.

You know, given Tali and Pria? I can see another end to this plot. Adorjan pops up in the "Chapel", silences everything, and as she ("she?") starts forward, Tali steps forward, takes a knee, and offers her a ring.

Que double wedding. And much confusion.
That sounds like a great way for Tali to be flensed to her bones.
 
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