Fyre, Fyre, Burning Skitter

Of your examples, PossiblyEnos, only the trials in Denmark had one documented witch burning that wasn't done by the Catholics. It was mostly a Catholic thing.

Of course it was primarily a Catholic thing. The Holy Inquisition, the thing that first kicked off the witch trials, was entirely the fault of the Roman Catholic Church after all. Also, were you aware of how the Inquisition got their confessions of making a "deal with the devil"? It was via torture. Of course people would admit to anything to get the torture to stop, even if they were confessing to something they never did. And of course they would then name "members of the coven", even if there was no, witches, deals with the devil, or coven. That's the whole tragedy of the Salem Witch Trials after all. A whole bunch of innocent people got tortured and killed because one malicious little girl accused someone of being a witch, and the inquisition tortured a confession and names of coven members out of that innocent woman, then from the additional people named by the innocent they just tortured.
 
I am well aware of that history, yes. It was a part of history class, and imprinted in my mind because of how horrible the tortures were.

Edit: they weren't described in class; I made the mistake of looking them up after
 
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I think you may be overlooking a significant point...

Look at the general knowledge of history among the UK population, say, about 1990s. Very few cracked a history book (unless you maybe count biographies) after school. Or, encyclopedias. The magical don't... appear to have much respect for history. Otherwise, Prof. Binns would have arguably been lynched decades ago (how do you lynch a ghost?).

So, JKR is stating the general belief about history among the magical population. Which may be flat out wrong. And, the odd few despairing historians among the magicals gave up trying to correct general belief, long, long, ago. So 'Hogwarts: A History', assuming it isn't political propaganda, could be a... tiny bit wrong.

Want to know what really went on? Try and find someone who admits to being alive, a long time ago. Or find the tree Merlin is stuck in? Oh. And, find someone who knew what was going on. And will be truthful.

People past a certain age in the Magical World may be going to considerable lengths to not admit how old they are...

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Is the arrival of Skitter in this world enough to tempt really old people 'out of the woodwork'? Is she/will she shake things up enough?
 
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Do the witch burnings and when the Statute of Secrecy came about matter to this story? Skitter isn't likely to go to the past when the Statute wasn't around, so likely at most whether they'll try to enforce it on her matters to the story.
 
So, JKR is stating the general belief about history among the magical population. Which may be flat out wrong.
I had not considered that. Thanks for pointing that out.
EACH of my other examples has them. For the Fulda trial I even linked to a particular person it is documented for.
Note that I specified legal and Catholic. Look back at what I wrote. The one specified was the only legally ordered execution by burning that was not done by the Catholics.
That was in response to what Sandy River DL said.
I also noted that there were a lot of illegally done ones.
Please read through everything completely.
 
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Unless your name is Sirius Black, apparently.
Well, see, if Sirius was free, that would mean that someone would have a claim on 'The Boy-Who-Lived', since Harry was already being called that. Someone who at least could have been very independent-minded after his best friend died on Dumbledore's recommendations, has a potential power-base as the Heir to a Most Ancient and Noble House, and comes from a Dark family, even if he was showing promising signs of being Light-aligned.

Too much to risk, when Dumbledore needs freedom of action to mould his soldier/sacrifice to whatever is necessary, however is necessary.

EDIT: Also, if people are still claiming Rowling did her research: she literally couldn't be bothered to pick up an old calendar, because almost every single date is the wrong day of the week. And that's something that never truly would have affected the plot! Because if something needed to happen on a Tuesday for some reason, she could have easily made it the previous or following Tuesday, whereas if it needed to be on the, say, 27th of March, she could have massaged things so whatever day of the week that was would have worked! Especially when she never committed or seemingly even created firm class schedules, as the gibbering madness coming from the hospital rooms of anyone who has tried to do so taking into account more than just the whatever-year-Harry's-in Gryffindor schedule can attest!
 
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Either Dumbledore is grossly incompetent and it makes you wonder why he's still Headmaster (let alone all his government positions) if he's this bad at it, or he's deliberately sabotaging his school for some reason and has been since he became headmaster. I'm torn on which to think is true. Either way, why is he still headmaster?!
Honestly the idea that the curse doesn't exist makes sense considering how out there it is compared to the rest of the magic we see. But something has to be sabotaging the defence position but why does it have to be Dumbledore?

Considering Voldemort's personality he totally would decided to get revenge on anyone he perceives as 'usurping' the position he deserves. So making it as goal to tear down the reputations or serious hurt/kill the DA teacher is totally something he'd do. And his followers would agrees assuming he was trying to weaken any threats to him not that he's doing it out of spite.

Then once the first few teachers suffered horrible 'accidents' rumours of the 'curse' start spreading possibly aided by Death Eaters. That will make many people reluctant to apply for the position reducing the candidate pool. The ones who still do it will tend to be arrogant making them easy prey furthering the reputation of it being cursed.

So by the time the war ends few are willing to take the position and Dumbledore is desperate for teachers. This would compound his already questionable skill at hiring leading to the teachers we see in canon.

At least this would be how I would do it without making Dumbledore as evil / an idiot. Since even if he's a pacifist I don't think he's idiot enough to sabotage it while there's a war on. restrict it to non lethal spells and how to escape yes but outright sabotage it completely no.

As for lack of research, her having the Statute being put in place because of the witch hunts, at a time when they were basically over and the Salem Witch Trials being one of the specific incidents cited. Also, witch burnings were mentioned in the story at one point, despite that never actually being a thing.
My personal headcanon is the secrecy was merely formalising something that already existed. Apparently it didn't receive that much protest and the transition happened fairly fast with minimal issue. So suggesting that most wizarding homes were already hidden and had slowly become self sufficient over the last few centuries to avoid the witch hunts makes sense.

So it wasn't ordering everyone to hide away. They already were it merely made it illegal for those minority who wanted to use magic openly to do so.

Or at least that how I would reconcile it with our history. Obviously you can change history but well pop culture history is funny but wrong since people are people.

Honestly, I generally consider the whole Wendelyn the Weird thing pure propaganda. And no magicals dying from the witch hunts? (witches were hung in England as an aside) It's a bloody guarantee muggleborn children died of it. I personally like to imagine Slytherin having advocated to either not inform the parents of muggleborn or to take the children and have magicals adopt them. Which during the actual witch hunts would have been a pretty damn good idea at that.

That people think he was against muggleborn ... well, it has been a thousand years, so propaganda, things taken out of context ...
To be fair with the magic we see a trained witch probably could survive easy. If there not caught off guard or make a mistake. And of course trained is a key word. A witch going invisible; apparating; or protecting themselves all requires warning and knowing the right spells. So an adult could probably do it if there not unluck but a child? Accidental magic might change it but realistically your going to have a decent number of death kids and not all of them muggleborn. Oh and accidental magic would also be harder to hide away making it easier for them to find magical children.

After all if your house isn't hidden by charms what's stopping the muggles attacking a wizarding household? or waiting until you leave the house and then grabbing you. An adult might escape but a child could unwisely leave safety to play and get killed.

Oh and this leads me to an interesting thought about the consequences of the witch burnings. Even if magic allows you to easily survive a witch hunt, what about your belonging and house? Unless your a traveller you live nearby and there probably going to steal/burn your belongings/house as well as you. And your certainly not just going to be able to go home and act as if nothing happened since next time you go out they'll try again.

So even if you not physically in danger your going to lose a lot to the witch hunts. Muggle repelling charms would solve that but then you can't talk to your neighbours so have to go further for supplies. Muggles villagers would be suspicious and if your travelling anyway magical enclaves are just as practical.

At that point your just undergoing an early form of the secrecy and forming your own community sperate from the muggles. Which is my headcanon for how it formed with each enclave deciding to do it themselves and once a critical mass was reached the international version was forced on the rest.

So yes it undoubtably the history lessons have a lot of propaganda to white wash the threat. That also occurring with Slytherin makes a lot of sense.

Unless your name is Sirius Black, apparently.
To be fair Sirius was already on his second chance. Namely the Snape incident. Sirius almost got Snape killed or infected and either way Remus probably would have been executed by the ministry. Basically a betrayal of Remus. Not to mention the extensive bullying of the Slytherins.

Dumbledore could have easily decided that was his first chance and regret not expelling him. After all in hindsight it was clear signs he didn't value his friends and was willing to murder people using others as tools.

Obviously not true but easy to conclude from Dumbledore perspective. Of course how Sirius acted with HP and Hagrid should have confused him enough to investigate but the assumption of guilt make sense.
 
You know, I just found this thread and read through the story chapters. Then I started skimming through the thread after that. And honestly, most of this stuff should be in the general Harry Potter thread. I'm pretty sure there is one.

Because not a lot of the threads after the last chapter had anything to do with the story at all. Just general HP stuff. Or did I miss something because I did just skim through the thread.
 
Back on topic, please.
This thread is not the place to discuss general Harry Potter story elements, J.K Rowling's actions, or real-world Witch Burnings and whether they actually happened. These things may be brought up as they relate to this story, but please don't go into multi-page derails about them. If you want to discuss these subjects in a way unrelated to this story, please take it to the appropriate threads.
 
On that note... Since Hermi and Harry are giving the full backstory to parents, I'm pretty sure Skitter is going to compare hogwarts to winslow... Any guesses on soon to come Fyre Bee infestations? Will there be a hogwarts left when she's done?
 
Right then. Fiendfyre Skitter.
Has anyone made a list of all the critters Taylor has access to now? That would be a nice side piece for the story. Maybe come with names for some magical bugs and/or a description? Maybe some of the stuff she swept into her new utility belt?
here's a couple of bugs:
-the magical variant of Scarabaeus sacer (common name sacred scarab) can heal itself by making and consuming a telecoprid (a ball of dung); can be used in powerful healing potions after being ground up; only found in captivity; used in ancient Egypt exclusively by the pharaohs due to being associated with the sun god Ra​
-Anansi (spider); a spider with a human face found in Ghana and the surrounding area; has near human level of intelligence; very good at tricking the unwary traveler to their doom, which they do to protect their territory; grows to about the size of a large dog​
 
I assume the idea with the belt of many pouches is that for whatever situation comes up, Skitter could plausibly pull out some magical critter to apply liberally to the problem to make it go away... presuming that feeding the problem to the Fyre isn't an acceptable solution.

Given that assumption, she has a breeding population of yes.

Given blast-ended skrewts could exist, there are presumably multiple varieties of "Oh god, why?" in the lower levels, only a small fraction of which were (super)naturally ocurring.


What sorts of problems is Skitter likely to run into that can't be solved by the liberal application of Fyre or bees?

I get the impression that she's already rid the general area (Edit: to be precise, the general area being Great Britain) of most things that have the potential to require a solution other than making the problem vanish in a burst of flame and shower of ash.
 
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Right then. Fiendfyre Skitter.
Has anyone made a list of all the critters Taylor has access to now? That would be a nice side piece for the story. Maybe come with names for some magical bugs and/or a description? Maybe some of the stuff she swept into her new utility belt?
here's a couple of bugs:
-the magical variant of Scarabaeus sacer (common name sacred scarab) can heal itself by making and consuming a telecoprid (a ball of dung); can be used in powerful healing potions after being ground up; only found in captivity; used in ancient Egypt exclusively by the pharaohs due to being associated with the sun god Ra
-Anansi (spider); a spider with a human face found in Ghana and the surrounding area; has near human level of intelligence; very good at tricking the unwary traveler to their doom, which they do to protect their territory; grows to about the size of a large dog​
While she most assured has all kinds of doxies and probably cornish pixies, she probably have those cocoon spiders from the game. As in, just one or two can wrap an adult in a cocoon in seconds. She has swarms.
 
While she most assured has all kinds of doxies and probably cornish pixies, she probably have those cocoon spiders from the game. As in, just one or two can wrap an adult in a cocoon in seconds. She has swarms.
It might be possible that a single one of certain bugs could suit a few situations... For example, the Nyar Spider (the one with the knife and fork...) - it just needs to be effective on magicals rather than Sparks...

Of course, Skitter would never use this creature to... intimidate magicals. :)
(*cough* Draco *cough*)
 
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It occurs to me that Hagrid might have an under-appreciated magical talent, 'Beastfriend'. So, yes, they do like him, and get on well with him. And, no one has ever recognised this, explained it to him, so he... tends to underestimate risks to others.

Can you imagine Taylor and Hagrid sitting down, discussing their shared appreciation for interesting (hideously dangerous) creatures? And, how the world needs more of the 'cute little things'?

Also, Taylor might be able to offer Hagrid enough of a breeding population that in trade he could... do a little bug-y creative work with her? How could anyone object to that? :)

(You might wonder whether Hagrid would object to... mixing half-giant heritage with an acromantula? So as to produce a riding drider (female, of course) that Taylor could... 'adopt', and take home with her to the Bay... Of course, shape-shifting (and flight) would also be useful characteristics, but, best to be realistic. :) )

(A drider with enough magical talent to be listed and enrolled at Hogwarts... That'd never happen! )

((Where do you get a mind for the drider? Well, QA can be quite creative... (Wrong word - 'flexible' would be more accurate...) Do you think (Moaning) Myrtle Warren would be interested in being reincarnated as a drider?))

There's lots of driders...


Lots...


So... Many... Driders...


Some might have more than one shape...

Hint: don't loose your transformation item...

(Yeah. None of the above are drow-ish. But, those are the common drider!)
Want to bet Taylor's not 'acquired' a few transformation items, that let non-humans impersonate humans? :)
 
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It occurs to me that Hagrid might have an under-appreciated magical talent, 'Beastfriend'. So, yes, they do like him, and get on well with him. And, no one has ever recognised this, explained it to him, so he... tends to underestimate risks to others.
At night, when nobody is looking, Hagrid sneaks into muggle towns to where the stray dogs congregate and reminds them they are good boys.
 
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At night, when nobody is looking, Hagrid sneaks into muggle towns to where the stray dogs congregate and reminds them they are good boys.
I could... see him doing that. And, it working...

(Though, most British mundane towns, 1980s/1990s, not so much on the stray dogs. The laws about 'all dogs must be on leads' (on much public property), and later needing ID, really made it easy to spot and snap these up... If he could talk effectively to pigeons or stray cats I'd be really impressed...)
 
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