So, I need an opinion or two.

What's a realistic timeframe for the JLF to re-organize after Narita?

Also, I fucked up.

Suzaku has killed a handful of people now that I think about it harder and I'm not severely exhausted from staying up well past midnight.

The only ones I remember him killing for sure are the guys who were operating the cannon covering the underwater tunnel at the hotel where JLF was holding Euphemia and the Ashford students hostage.

To the best of my memory, he tried to use less than lethal force the previous times he was deployed in the Lancelot.

Gotta fix that somehow...
 
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Suzaku has killed a handful of people now that I think about it harder and I'm not severely exhausted from staying up well past midnight.

The only ones I remember him killing for sure are the guys who were operating the cannon covering the underwater tunnel at the hotel where JLF was holding Euphemia and the Ashford students hostage.

To the best of my memory, he tried to use less than lethal force the previous times he was deployed in the Lancelot.

Gotta fix that somehow...
You know that, we know that, would the SI remember that?

She seems to have perfect memory now but watching CG was back in meat-space time. It's also possible that Suzaku never even thought about those people he inadvertently killed. Boy has a bit of a case of tunnel vision.
 
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You know that, we know that, would the SI remember that?

Honestly? No. Seeing as I didn't remember it.

But Suzaku? What would explain him just forgetting about the two guys he killed trying to save Euphemia?

Maybe he didn't know there was anyone physically operating the cannon...

Hmm... I guess his response of "not many" is because he both knows it's explicitly a lie due to him killing his father, and because he's actually not sure if he's killed anyone else intentionally. He didn't know for certain if there was anyone physically in the gun he destroyed back in the hotel rescue.
 
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Also, I fucked up.

Gotta fix that somehow...
But Suzaku? What would explain him just forgetting about the two guys he killed trying to save Euphemia?

Maybe he didn't know there was anyone physically operating the cannon...
I can imagine Suzaku being so unnerved from everything in the conversation to completely overlook any inaccuracies Morgan said until afterwards. Given a bit of time for calming down maybe self reflection Kururugi could realize blatant errors in her information.
 
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I can imagine Suzaku being so unnerved from everything in the conversation to completely overlook any inaccuracies Morgan said until afterwards. Given a bit of time for calming down maybe self reflection Kururugi could realize blatant errors in her information.

Not so much an error in information, but a mistaken assumption of his character. That's what it would look like from his perspective.

But then again, is he going to dispute her assumption? If you hated killing people, and aside from that one time you murdered your father you aren't entirely certain you definitely killed anyone else, would you raise an objection to someone telling you you've never had the stomach to kill?

If I was Suzaku, I wouldn't argue with Morgan over that slight inconsistency. If only so I can delude myself further into believing my professed pacifism.
 
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Thinking about it, there is no real reason for that cannon to have been manned at all. It was a giant, mostly immobile gun emplacement that only needed someone to hit a firing switch and then let it reload itself. Zero even shows that it's entirely possible to control knightmares by remote a few times.
 
From http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Raikou

A massive coilgun built from four Glasgows or the Burais variants. It fires a high velocity shell which releases two-dozen steel ball bearings that can tear through Knightmare Frames, as well as most other targets with ease. The four Knightmares are arranged along both sides of the cannon for support, and their heads are attached to a circular disc on the top of the cannon for a 360 degree field of view. The cockpits of the two Knightmares on each side are linked to create a two-seater cockpit.
In addition to the main cannon, the arm on the open side of each Knightmare is replaced with a linkable cannon, creating four secondary cannons in case the main cannon fails to destroy the target.


Would that still be able to be remote controlled?
 
Would that still be able to be remote controlled?

Probably. It doesn't even move.

And there are clearly remote controls for knightmare frames that at least aim and fire their guns.

There really is no reason for that thing to have been physically piloted by anyone.

In fact, that is so stupid I'm going to say that it wasn't and completely ignore canon in relation to it.
 
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Thinking about it, there is no real reason for that cannon to have been manned at all.
There really is no reason for that thing to have been physically piloted by anyone.
Kusakabe and everybody under his command were fighting a literal suicide mission.
Fanatics intentionally putting themselves into a corner.
In context of BONZAI CHARGE having it piloted makes perfect sense.
Raikou team's ultimate goal was an honorable death.
 
Would that still be able to be remote controlled?
Certainly. There are a few limitations on remote controlling something.

The first hurdle is that you need to wire it for digital video so that it can transmit what it's seeing to you. As all knightmares have monitors are the primary (and only) method of sight from the cockpit, this isn't a problem.

The second hurdle is the vehicle having a method of transmitting data and computer controlled everything. This is again cleared due to them being a completely digital interface and having a radio/wifi.

The last one though is what keeps all knightmare frames from being effectively predator drones. And that is range and data throughput issues. knightmares show their best performances in urban environments where a wireless control signal and video feed would degrade rapidly and that isn't even talking about issues like band saturation giving you a limited number of "drone" knightmares in a given battlefield. This one however is also cleared in this situation.

Given that the Raikou is sitting immobile at the end of a long tunnel it is entirely possible to run a data cord from the back of the machine all the way into the hotel's network. If that cord is severed then one of two conditions has already been met. The enemy has destroyed the Raikou or the enemy has bypassed the raikou and it is thus useless. So really, they would have the means, and ability to do so. The only possible stumbling block of this line of reasoning is their own human element. Would they want to control it remotely or not?
 
The man with the Louis Armstrong avatar is totally right.

Guess if they are crazy enough to pull a suicide mission they don't care about the remote control... then again if they are strapped for personnel and they are needed someplace more important (like handling hostages), then a drone could work. It is up to the mentality of the leaders. This is probably where the AU would start to set, among other details.
 
1.7
After leaving Suzaku, I rode silently off into the mountains. I didn't care where I was going. I didn't really care what happened to anyone after the battle.

I just rode onward, no set goal in mind. A few times I caught a whiff of JLF somewhere else in the range as they marched their forces to wherever it was they were going. I assume backup shelters deeper in the mountains, further from urban centers. Their forces are too large to hide in any single ghetto.

I kept away from established mountain roads, choosing to make my way across the most unforgiving terrain I could find in a mostly straight line to the northeast. I didn't stop until nightfall.

This left me a lot of free time. Far too much free time. Thought is the enemy of sanity. My personality is too similar to Lelouch in the sense that I spend way too much time overthinking things.

The things I said back there... the things I thought... Looking back, I'm not sure how much of it makes any sense. I wonder how much my programming caused me to think like that.

Did I rationalize those deaths the same way I would have if I were still human? I'll never know. I never killed as a human, and I never will kill as a human. I can't escape what I am now, as far as I know.

I want to blame the Admiralty Code for what I've done. But that... I can't. She didn't kill those people. I did. She merely enabled me to do so. She just gave me my new body, dropped me in the woods and said "Do what you want."

And I did... exactly what I wanted. I did what a ship of the Fog does. I chose my enemy. I engaged my enemy. I defeated my enemy. They weren't meaningless people. They weren't nameless automatons. But they were the foe in front of my gun.

I can't stop and cry for every life I take in battle. But I can respect those lives and keep moving on.

Moreover, I can't help but feel unnerved by how drastically I've changed from the course of one battle. When I first woke up, I could tell my mind was different. As a necessity of my new existence, my psychology is fundamentally altered. I no longer have basic human motivations or needs. I could accept those. I understand that those changes had to be done for me to function.

But the more I fought, the more I killed, the more I played up my constructed image to everyone... the more I felt like I was being sucked up in my own act. Like my very sense of self was being molded minute by minute. As I think on it, I realize that I'm not the first mental model to go through something like this.

How long did Haruna know Makie before she was laying waste to the Japanese army to protect that little girl? Maybe an hour or two. It's hard to tell. How well did she know Makie's father before the sight of his death sent her into a rage that would have leveled three cities and killed millions? She only spoke to him one time.

Kirishima denies that she's changed, but she still stays a chibi in a teddy bear suit because it makes Makie happy.

Takao became obsessed with obtaining a captain the first time she lost a battle. She ran away from the 2nd Pacific Fleet and, with no outside interference, decided all on her own that she would be Gunzou Chihaya's ship no matter what.

Hyuuga became obsessed with Iona after losing to her. Thinking about her particular weirdness disturbs me.

Hiei somehow came to the conclusion that putting all her subordinates in student council uniforms would increase moral. She probably only thought about it for 5 minutes before doing it.

The Fog are beings of rapid change. Our growth is an exercise of sudden passions and flights of fancy. We're like... we're like children. I thought that I would be immune to this because I was a fully grown human before, but apparently I'm not.

The only thing I can do is try not to get lost in the mask I've put on my face. I can't be a maiden of war all the time. I need to have some other persona to escape to.

I suppose keeping an eye on Lelouch is a good enough excuse to faff about in a normal-ish life.

Where the fuck is Orange when I need some catharsis?
 
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I can imagine you just going and painting orange's apartment orange at some point to amuse yourself when he isn't there, or his car.

Pretty sure his car has already been vandalized in this manner at least once already.

I wouldn't be surprised if people throw oranges at him in public.
 
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Pretty sure his car has already been vandalized in this manner at least once already.

I wouldn't be surprised if people throw oranges at him in public.
So you need some other form of madcap insanity to unwind then. After all, just sticking to Orange-kun would get boring.

Hack the databases, shift to the proper uniform and join Lulu's class. Then ignite the rumor mill by pointing out that he and Miss Stadtfeld seem to be frequently disappearing at roughly the same times after he brought her onto the student council.:ogles:
 
I really want to see Morgan facing off against Mao. Having his Geass working against you would be far worse for him that if you were fully shielded against telepaths. Nothing like having a mind capable of processing more information than the entire Area 11 population. :D
 
From http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Raikou

A massive coilgun built from four Glasgows or the Burais variants. It fires a high velocity shell which releases two-dozen steel ball bearings that can tear through Knightmare Frames, as well as most other targets with ease. The four Knightmares are arranged along both sides of the cannon for support, and their heads are attached to a circular disc on the top of the cannon for a 360 degree field of view. The cockpits of the two Knightmares on each side are linked to create a two-seater cockpit.
In addition to the main cannon, the arm on the open side of each Knightmare is replaced with a linkable cannon, creating four secondary cannons in case the main cannon fails to destroy the target.

Jesus H. Christ, that thing is just ridiculous.

It's like somebody went and designed a vehicle specifically to have all the weaknesses of mecha and all the weaknesses of tanks, with the bonus that if any of the eight legs don't move in perfect sync the entire thing falls sideways.
 
And it's a railgun shotgun as well. Who the hell uses a railgun as a shotgun? Even a suicide mission could do better to simply flood the maintenance tunnels.
 
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