Fiend: Thread Two, the Rethreading [Exalted/Worm]

Odysseus2099 said:
Also, how much protection does Scar-Writ Saga Shield actually give? I think it should at least protect from small arms fire(still hurt like a bitch every time she gets hit though), probably not AK though.
Just to address this - a single purchase of Scar-Writ Saga Shield at Stamina 3 has given Taylor a Soak of 3B/3L (B being "Bashing" - fists, clubs, etc, stuff that bruises before breaking the skin, while L is "Lethal" - knives, bullets, etc, stuff that slices and tears). To expand on that, a revolver does 5L when it hits someone (plus a little extra from accuracy), while an assault rifle does 7L. Taylor reduces these by three - assault rifle shots do less damage to her than pistol shots do to normal people, while pistol shots do a little bit more damage than a throwing dart.

She also has a Hardness of 3B, which means any attack doing 3B or less is just outright ignored. If she's punched and just barely hit by an average human (Strength 2, where 1 is below average, 3 is above average, and 5 is peak human), it doesn't even register for her.

Now, if she'd purchased it a second time (which she could do, being Essence 3, but probably won't, being sneaky-sneaky and quick to burn through xp) then she'd add her Essence to her Soak, putting her up to 6B/6L. That's enough to reduce any pistol shot to minimum damage - at this point, her bare skin offers better protection against bullets than a bullet-proof vest, and applies that kind of toughness to blades, fists, fire, etc.

A third purchase (at Essence 4, which is currently above her paygrade) would give her a Hardness equal to her (Stamina + Essence), for 7B/7L. Assault rifles do 7L. Assuming she wasn't standing still and being shot at point-blank range, she could ignore AK-47 fire entirely, and even with some attack successes (from skilled marksmen or a lazy Taylor), she'd be reducing the damage they do to a bare minimum.
 
Revlid said:
Just to address this - a single purchase of Scar-Writ Saga Shield at Stamina 3 has given Taylor a Soak of 3B/3L (B being "Bashing" - fists, clubs, etc, stuff that bruises before breaking the skin, while L is "Lethal" - knives, bullets, etc, stuff that slices and tears). To expand on that, a revolver does 5L when it hits someone (plus a little extra from accuracy), while an assault rifle does 7L. Taylor reduces these by three - assault rifle shots do less damage to her than pistol shots do to normal people, while pistol shots do a little bit more damage than a throwing dart.

She also has a Hardness of 3B, which means any attack doing 3B or less is just outright ignored. If she's punched and just barely hit by an average human (Strength 2, where 1 is below average, 3 is above average, and 5 is peak human), it doesn't even register for her.

Now, if she'd purchased it a second time (which she could do, being Essence 3, but probably won't, being sneaky-sneaky and quick to burn through xp) then she'd add her Essence to her Soak, putting her up to 6B/6L. That's enough to reduce any pistol shot to minimum damage - at this point, her bare skin offers better protection against bullets than a bullet-proof vest, and applies that kind of toughness to blades, fists, fire, etc.

A third purchase (at Essence 4, which is currently above her paygrade) would give her a Hardness equal to her (Stamina + Essence), for 7B/7L. Assault rifles do 7L. Assuming she wasn't standing still and being shot at point-blank range, she could ignore AK-47 fire entirely, and even with some attack successes (from skilled marksmen or a lazy Taylor), she'd be reducing the damage they do to a bare minimum.
Infernals, especally does that go heavy into Malfeaes defense charms, are some of the hardiest Exalted in the entire game. The ability to ignore wound penalties, soak and hardness boasters like Veridian Exoskeleton their equivalent of Ox-Bpdy technique all make Infernals very tough nuts to crack. I won't even go into what By Rage Recast mutations can do...
 
Fiach McCarthy said:
Infernals, especally does that go heavy into Malfeaes defense charms, are some of the hardiest Exalted in the entire game. The ability to ignore wound penalties, soak and hardness boasters like Veridian Exoskeleton their equivalent of Ox-Bpdy technique all make Infernals very tough nuts to crack. I won't even go into what By Rage Recast mutations can do...
Oh, a Solar who heavily explores Resistance can match up to a Slayer in terms of toughness. It's just that it's not always on for them, which makes it a weirder experience for the Infernal. They don't learn to clench their muscles so hard that blades bounce off or create a skintight ki-barrier or focus their sheer grit into being bulletproof - they just get ridiculously tough skin, which picks up scars like they're on sale and shifts them into oddly-coherent patterns.

Same kind of capability, different kind of experience.

This is, uh, kind of shot in the foot by the Ink Monkeys Charm that just hands Solars the same kind of "you are always this tough, no motes" stuff and lets them match Infernal soak for a third of the motes and no need to constantly wear a big glowing brass demonic exoskeleton, but whatever. It's not as though ignoring great chunks of Exalted mechanics is unusual.
 
Hmm. That didn't take into account the 1/2 stamina for lethal? Or did I just miss how the original 3Lethal was figured?
 
arthurh3535 said:
Hmm. That didn't take into account the 1/2 stamina for lethal? Or did I just miss how the original 3Lethal was figured?
Sooner or later, "read the fucking rules, arthur" is going to be turned into an image macro for easy use.
 
Revlid said:
Sooner or later, "read the fucking rules, arthur" is going to be turned into an image macro for easy use.
Or, you know, I was asking a quick question while I was writing. So quit being a damn jerk.
(Edited to be less crude and stupid. Sorry, that just pissed me off because I asked a quick question.
 
SolipsistSerpen said:
Well, Revlid did address it a couple posts above yours, so he's probably annoyed at what seems like needing to immediately repeat himself. "A single purchase of Scar-writ Saga shield gives..." he gave the numbers but to go a little more in depth. one thing a single purchase does is stop halving stamina soak against lethal. Which is a fun combo with things like the Gargantuan mutation, that can give you superhuman stamina.
I did not get that the original 'three lethal soak' actually took the 1/2 stamina into account (or that it turned the full stamina into lethal).

It seemed to skip over the stamina part of the equation when I read it.
 
21
Operation Wyldhand 5.7

What do we do now, she had asked. I didn't quite know. I stood, motioning for her to follow me. I told her over my shoulder, as I led her to the apartment's bathroom, "First, the bullets. Then we can plan. You weren't injured much, were you?"

"Just sore," she said, before gently touching her back and wincing, "And a scrape or two. I've had worse."

In the bathroom, I took off my jacket and top. Modesty be damned, I needed to see how hurt I was. I frowned at the grimy shirt, wondering just how much of the East River I picked up during my little swim. Small favors that I had been shot after. Damsel averted her eyes, sitting on the closed toilet. I tossed the shirt in the hamper and looked over at her, "How long have you been a cape?"

"Two years or so. But every-time I come here, ready to make it big, I get sent home with nothing to show for it but aches and pains."

My shoulder had a thin film of dried blood, extending out in a v-shape from my gunshot wound. The hole on my forearm, aside from having a partner on the other side of my arm, was much cleaner. The bag with my drugstore purchases from last week was under the sink, and I pulled it out, removing the bandages.

"Pass me a few sheets of toilet paper, please," I said to her. She ripped several off, and handed them to me. As I wet them to clean off the blood, I could see her internally debating something.

"What is it?"

"Uh, it's, just... Uh, could you turn the light on? It's pretty dark in here," She said, waggling her fingers in front of her face.

Ah. Right. She didn't have night-vision. I leaned over, flicking the light-switch, adding the overhead light to the faint illumination coming from the lights outside the bathroom.

"Sorry."

"It's fine. So, like I was saying, two years."

I nodded, less from a need to respond, and more from a lack of anything to say. Forearm clean, I wrapped it, before pinning the bandage together with a safety pin. Now for the shoulder. Did I have to remove the bullet? Would my healing power work, with something in the wound? Using my fingers, I did a closer examination. It wasn't a pleasant feeling, torn and tender flesh moving, but I could see the dull metal, about an inch in. Right underneath my collarbone, and barely missing the rest of the bones in my shoulder. Lucky.

"So you were the one," she asked, making wavy motions with her hands, "doing that whole mess?"

"Hitting the gangs? Yes."

"They are pretty mad," she said sounding impressed, and with a hint of envy.

"I destroyed over a million in drugs, even before tonight, and stole over two hundred grand. I'm not surprised they're angry."

"A million- and did you say two hundred grand? Cash?"

"Cash," I confirmed.

"Wow. What did you say about tonight?"

"I wrecked a semi full of five million bucks worth of cocaine, right in the middle of a gang meeting, and called in the Protectorate to pick them all up."

"Then all those helicopters were from you?" She asked, now very impressed.

"That, and Legend, and probably three dozen other heroes."

"Uh, wow. Can I say, that I'm really glad I've signed on with you?"

"Sure," I said, bemused, before asking her, "What exactly is your power?"

I could see her face darken slightly, but whether from a blush or from anger, I couldn't tell. She said, "I can't demonstrate in here, but I can warp space."

"Warp space? Like, tear it apart?"

"Yes. So, the plan is to keep robbing gangs?"

I shrugged, but only with one shoulder. I didn't want to move the injured one. "I'm not sure at the moment. I hadn't seen the effects on them. For all I know, they are still going strong, even with their now reduced manpower."

And she was on-board with the plan to rob gangs? Why?

"Five million is a huge amount, Defiler. Or, Taylor. What do you want me to call you?"

"Either is fine," I replied. I didn't particularly care. My mind whirred. Was she a hero then? She hadn't had any objections to my plan, and seemed quite happy with the idea of taking money. What kind of hero- Oh, a vigilante. That would make the most sense. She wanted to do damage to the gangs, without the rules of the normal capes holding her back.

"Taylor, when we aren't public, then. Like I said, five million is a huge amount of money."

"Nearly an entire month's supply," I confirmed, adding, "For big deals and for local usage, both."

Damsel pulled off her domino mask, and said, "And if I'm calling you Taylor, you should call me Daphne."

"Nice to meet you, Daphne," I said, mostly from habit.

"Same. If we make more money, I could really use a new costume. No one was willing to sell to me," she said, pinching her shirt with her hand, and releasing it. She wore black – all black – clothing, a skirt, long sleeve shirt, and a vest full of doodads. I could see what had to be a cellphone, and what was probably pepper spray. We both didn't look very professional, now that I thought about it. And if she was a no-name vigilante, she probably couldn't get rogues or whoever made costumes to work for her.

"A set of costumes for both of us, then. Well, not immediately. No one else knows I am here, in New York, and I want to keep it that way for some time," I said, finishing my contemplation.

"Sure, so we can make a bigger entrance, right?"

"Not quite, but that's not too far off my train of thought," I replied. I pulled my knife from its sheath at my belt, and put it over my wound, leaning forward as well to get a better look.

"Uh, what are you doing?" Daphne asked, looking askance at me.

"I need to get the bullet out. I'm not sure if my power can heal it, otherwise."

"You can heal, too?" She said, surprised.

"Yes. It just leaves my flesh bronze for awhile," I said as I gestured at my varying wounds.

"Handy."

"Yeah," I grunted out, as I dug the tip of the knife into my wound. A trickle of blood accompanied the cold metal pain. Gritting my teeth, I dug further into the wound, getting leverage underneath the bullet. My other hand was nearly cracking the cheap counter, as I gripped it tightly from the pain. I felt the bullet catch, and pulled it slowly out, wound probably twice as wide. Blood pulsed out of it, before I stopped it with a burst of will. The bullet fell, and landed with a tink on the counter.

"You okay?" she queried, now looking at me with concern.

"I will be," I let out, through gritted teeth. A quick rinse, and my knife was clean, and I set it on the counter to dry. I wiped off the new blood from my shoulder, and started wrapping it in a bandage.

"Tomorrow we go out, get some money?"

"Tomorrow, we plan. And get supplies."

"Okay. So, would it be possible for me to stay here then?" She asked.

I nodded, motioning towards the living room. "Take the couch. We can talk in the morning, when we aren't falling asleep."

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I woke up, and went straight for the shower. I hadn't taken one last night, and I felt gross. Both from the night, and from the swim. I opened the bathroom door, and immediately turned right around, blushing. A shouted, "Occupied!," accompanied me.

"Sorry!" I squeaked out, slamming the door behind me. Who was- Right, Damsel. Or Daphne. Embarrassed, I sat on my bed, and picked out clothes to pass the time. A few minutes later, I heard the bathroom door open in the hall, and Daphne walk out. I passed by her, carrying my clothes, and keeping my reddened face looking down, and went right into the shower.

I washed my hair, even though it would take time to dry, as I had no idea what all had been in the river. Probably half the sewage in New York. Feeling like a new Taylor, I checked on my newest addition to my wounds. Bronze-tinged, but not covered yet. A new bandage for my forearm, and I made a mental note to get some more, as it was my last one.

Dressed, I left the bathroom and found that Daphne was waiting in the kitchen, leaning against a counter.

"You don't have any food," She greeted me.

"Another thing on the list, then. Let's go eat."

"Uh, about that. Do you have anything I could wear? Going around in the same clothes as the Damsel of Distress..," she trailed off, before I finished her thought.

"I don't know if anything of mine will fit you, but we can look," I offered. She was an easy four inches shorter than me, and more, uh, developed. A quick ruffle through one of my suitcases, and Daphne had one of my final shirts from the Salvation Army, along with a Christmas-themed sweater. She kept her dress, though. Together, we left the apartment.


A/N: And edited.
 
Orm Embar said:
This is pretty good stuff, and the update rate is amazing. I do think your dialogue could flow a bit better, though, particularly with secondary characters like the Number Man.
Wait, what's the error up there.

And yeah, I'm already working on rewriting Chapter One, and then will go through Especially as this is a learning experience.
 
Odysseus2099 said:
Can you tell us when you're finished with that? I'd like to see the changes.
Probably not for a few days. Because I'll need to have it redited too.
malhavoc431 said:
The update rate on this fic is PHENOMENAL! It is one of the stories I frequently anticipate. Keep up the amazing progress logiccosmic!
Gonna try for two tomorrow. Or at least make a serious dent in the Rebuild of One, You can(not) take a Second Breath.
 
Orm Embar said:
Another character introduced, another ship launched. The shipyard operated by Worm's fanbase is industrious, to be sure, but perhaps the romance can wait until she's overcome issues like isolation, purposelessness, and guilt over being a mass murderer?
If we had to wait for Taylor to solve some of her biggest issues before thinking about her hooking up with her teammates we would never be able to ship her with people at all.
 
I find it a bit odd that Taylor hasn't asked Damsel what her power is yet.
unless that will come up in the planning of the next job.
 
I think it would be far more interesting and character developing for Taylor to make her first actual friend since the bullying started without romantic/sexual overtones, and see how it's distorted by the nature of her Yozi patrons.

What, for example, does Witness to Darkness do to your ability to develop a genuine friendship?
 
illhousen said:
I guess it can be explained by wounds and exhaustion getting to her, so she wants to deal with one thing at a time and can't spare a moment for idle thoughts, but it wasn't very clear.
Nah. Her problem's easy - too much Yin, not enough Yang. She's slipping into an Ophidian mindset.
Not enough fire in her stunts, you see. Give it an old-fashioned flare or two, possibly some radiant fury or scorched fields, and she'll be brimming with vim and vitriolic vigor like never before.
 
Robo Jesus said:
Hollywood Movie Studios + Taylor (once she starts pulling out her Hollywood-esque stunts publically). OTP.

:D:p
That makes me wonder why there don't seem to be cape movies on Earth Bet. That should be huge.
 
Guile said:
That makes me wonder why there don't seem to be cape movies on Earth Bet. That should be huge.
It's entirely possible that there are, but they haven't been mentioned because such things haven't intersected with Taylor's life in any significant manner.
 
Delusionist said:
It's entirely possible that there are, but they haven't been mentioned because such things haven't intersected with Taylor's life in any significant manner.
If Taylor managed to mention her old Alexandria lunchbox and all Glenn's action figures and posters and stuff, you'd think it'd come up at some point in 28 arcs.
Robo Jesus said:
...who says there aren't any rogues working in Hollywood, or that logic and I didn't bring that very topic up in our various convos?
Nice. Stunt effect capes, or actually popular actors in their own right I wonder?
 
Guile said:
If Taylor managed to mention her old Alexandria lunchbox and all Glenn's action figures and posters and stuff, you'd think it'd come up at some point in 28 arcs.
Well, if you want a Doylist explanation, perhaps the idea just didn't occur to Wildbow in the timeframe when he was putting his setting together.
 
Cape movies are likely closer to cop movies in our world than what we think of as "superhero" movies.

Similarly, I'd expect the term "cape" to be far more rare as it applies to the actual item of clothing, especially when worn by non-parahumans. Modern publications want to avoid ambiguity, and so are likely to use "cloak", "mantle", "capote" or borrow a word from another language entirely, like "pijian". Older publications that go through revisions will have the word similarly replaced, so that references to "caped figures" or "swirling capes" are edited out. Eventually it'll become a weird relic-use of the word that people occasionally stumble onto and have to wiki the origin of. In countries where "cape" isn't the accepted term but English is still the dominant language, this might well result in a linguistic split - one can imagine British people still using the term to refer to clothing, for example, and referring to parahumans as "bennies" after the first famous British parahuman, Big Ben*.

*Or, god help us, calling a parahuman a "drunken crewman" in Cockney rhyming slang.

"Villain" certainly isn't likely to be used in its context as "fictional antagonist" or "bad person" at all. No literature teacher is going to say that Iago is the villain of Othello, not when that could cause confusion or side-track the class into discussing Shakespearean parahumans. No film summary is going to describe Kevin Smith as playing the villain, not unless he's actually playing a law-breaking parahuman character.

In any case, this is all a topic for the actual Worm discussion thread.
 
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