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Fear Cuts Deeper Than Swords v2: A Song Of Ice and Fire/Pathinder 1st Edition Crossover

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-[X] What else can she tell us about the other killings? When did they occur, how were they accomplished, were there witnesses, etc?
-[X] Have any the religions targeted displayed any unusual levels of influence of late, or perhaps access to previously unknown capabilities?
-[X] What is the extent of our 'writ'? Can we kick down doors or start lethal fights, provided we show good reason afterwards? Or do we need to bring evidence to you before taking any action?
 
butchock said:
@Zioneer can we ask for tools and equipment if we accept the task? As well as lodging since the smithy is no longer safe?
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Yes, you can, Nesirah offers the barracks itself as a lodging for the course of your investigation, and it always has a patrol on watch. As far as you know, the Unsullied of Qohor are loyal to the office of Priest-Commander above all else.

The tools and equipment depends on what you're asking for. Feel free to suggest things and I can tell you if Nesirah will give you them or direct you to where to find them.

Uhtread said:
An unsullied would be 1st level?
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DragonParadox said:
Presumably she gave us the worst unsullied she had. Maybe he's old, maybe he's grown fat on the job. Frankly I'm happy he is level one otherwise he would inflate the party ECL and stick us with less XP.
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A relatively "green" Unsullied like Ash Rat are usually around levels 1 and 2, more experienced can end up at 3-4, and I'm thinking the hardiest veterans can get up to an unofficial level cap of 5, though with a heavy restriction on their weapon of choice. After all, in canon, most unsullied appear to be only trained in polearms, especially spears. Ash Rat's advantages are that he's specifically been trained in a variety of weapons, though Nesirah has not yet explained why or how.

theajl said:
Depends if we can retrain it later. @Zioneer can we retrain feats?
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You can, not immediately but over some period of time. I'm not sure what a reasonable amount of time or effort would be, suggestions would be very helpful.
 
Zioneer said:
You can, not immediately but over some period of time. I'm not sure what a reasonable amount of time or effort would be, suggestions would be very helpful.
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Well it depends on what scale you see the quest happening when we are not in the middle of a mystery. Is it weeks? Months? The thing about feat retraining is that it should be some kind of sacrifice, it should be a span of time we could otherwise have used productively for other things so we are not tempted too use feats like spell-slots.

Anyway speaking of character mechanics how much XP did we get from dealing with the thug? Or would you rather deal with it at the end of the whole arc?
 
[X] Accept
-[X] Are there any resources she could lend us for this task beyond Ash Rat? Not merely money or other material, but even a cooperative contact could be very helpful, perhaps someone we could speak with who has been involved in the investigation of the previous killings?
-[X] What else can she tell us about the other killings? When did they occur, how were they accomplished, were there witnesses, etc?

[X] Ash Rat - Skirmisher
 
DragonParadox said:
Well it depends on what scale you see the quest happening when we are not in the middle of a mystery. Is it weeks? Months? The thing about feat retraining is that it should be some kind of sacrifice, it should be a span of time we could otherwise have used productively for other things so we are not tempted too use feats like spell-slots.

Anyway speaking of character mechanics how much XP did we get from dealing with the thug? Or would you rather deal with it at the end of the whole arc?
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I'll likely deal with it at the end of the arc, though for reference's sake, if I go back to the "normal" D&D system, the thug was a 1st-level warrior, about CR 1/2 by this standard. About 200 XP for a 1st level sorcerer like Domeric, I think, though subduing the thug so effortlessly and managing to bring him to an officer of the law without complications might be a one-time bonus of 100 XP.

Also, I think a month of dedicated retraining (a few hours a day?) would be enough to retrain a feat, though I can adjust this as necessary.

Additionally, this arc should involve Domeric and crew getting a permanent residence, but if decisions and rolls don't work that way I have a few ideas...
 
[X] Accept
-[X] Are there any resources she could lend us for this task beyond Ash Rat? Not merely money or other material, but even a cooperative contact could be very helpful, perhaps someone we could speak with who has been involved in the investigation of the previous killings?
-[X] What else can she tell us about the other killings? When did they occur, how were they accomplished, were there witnesses, etc?
 
[X] Accept
-[X] Are there any resources she could lend us for this task beyond Ash Rat? Not merely money or other material, but even a cooperative contact could be very helpful, perhaps someone we could speak with who has been involved in the investigation of the previous killings?
-[X] What else can she tell us about the other killings? When did they occur, how were they accomplished, were there witnesses, etc?
 
So what do you guys think about Ash Rat in general? Should we try to win his loyalty or are we content with a temporary meat shield? I ask because we are in a unique position of being sent out alone with a young and thus potentially impressionable Unsullied. the fact that we are a magician also plays into it. We might actually have a shot at suborning him but it will not be easy or quick to we need to decide now what he is to Domeric.
 
DragonParadox said:
So what do you guys think about Ash Rat in general? Should we try to win his loyalty or are we content with a temporary meat shield? I ask because we are in a unique position of being sent out alone with a young and thus potentially impressionable Unsullied. the fact that we are a magician also plays into it. We might actually have a shot at suborning him but it will not be easy or quick to we need to decide now what he is to Domeric.
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From what I know, there is no such thing as an impressionable Unsullied. "Their training starts at age five and is from dawn to dusk. It is brutal, designed not only to teach them how to fight, but to strip away all individuality, empathy, and self-worth. Slaves that fail any aspect of their training are killed. Only a third of the slaves to enter training survive to become Unsullied".

"On the day a boy is cut, he is given a puppy to take care of. At the end of the first year, the boy is made to strangle the puppy. Should he fail to do so, he is killed and fed to the surviving dogs. During training boys are culled whenever they fail a task, be it running all day in full pack, scaling a mountain at night or walking across a bed of coals. To win their spiked cap they must take a silver mark go to the slave markets and buy a newborn slave child and kill it before its mother and pay the slave's owner for his loss."

We should use him as a meat shield, and trust him to follow orders as long as it doesn't contradict his master's. Also, let's keep our magic under wraps from him.
 
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Mr. Sandman said:
From what I know, there is no such thing as an impressionable Unsullied. "Their training starts at age five and is from dawn to dusk. It is brutal, designed not only to teach them how to fight, but to strip away all individuality, empathy, and self-worth. Slaves that fail any aspect of their training are killed. Only a third of the slaves to enter training survive to become Unsullied".

"On the day a boy is cut, he is given a puppy to take care of. At the end of the first year, the boy is made to strangle the puppy. Should he fail to do so, he is killed and fed to the surviving dogs. During training boys are culled whenever they fail a task, be it running all day in full pack, scaling a mountain at night or walking across a bed of coals. To win their spiked cap they must take a silver mark go to the slave markets and buy a newborn slave child and kill it before its mother and pay the slave's owner for his loss."

We should use him as a meat shield, and trust him to follow orders as long as it doesn't contradict his master's. Also, let's keep our magic under wraps from him.
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That is what the Good Masters are selling, but like any marketing it is at least 50% bullshit. People are not mindless robots no matter how much you might try to make them that. It says for instance that they stopped selling them in small numbers because in their mingling with 'whole men' they could forget their place. Unsullied are people and people can be swayed.
 
DragonParadox said:
That is what the Good Masters are selling, but like any marketing it is at least 50% bullshit. People are not mindless robots no matter how much you might try to make them that. It says for instance that they stopped selling them in small numbers because in their mingling with 'whole men' they could forget their place. Unsullied are people and people can be swayed.
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I think the point stands even if 50% of it is overblown. They might not be robots, but living through that would definitely conditioned them into not questioning their masters. Not saying it would be impossible, but it would take someone more charismatic than Domeric to do so imo
 
DragonParadox said:
So what do you guys think about Ash Rat in general? Should we try to win his loyalty or are we content with a temporary meat shield? I ask because we are in a unique position of being sent out alone with a young and thus potentially impressionable Unsullied. the fact that we are a magician also plays into it. We might actually have a shot at suborning him but it will not be easy or quick to we need to decide now what he is to Domeric.
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It's possible, I suppose, but I'm not going to get attached to him for now. I don't think Domeric currently has the kind of social skills needed to acquire an Unsullied's loyalty, not with the brainwashing they experience.

For now I'll settle for a meat shield. If that changes in the near future, I won't complain.
 
Fair enough meat shield it is, in that case we are really going to have to work on getting someone we can trust to tank mid to long term. I guess we could just pay a bodyguard. We have the gold to spare for it, their cost should be silver and we have silver.
 
Keep in mind that Nesirah is not exactly the most conventional master, and that Ash Rat, while Unsullied, has not been trained in exactly the same way as his 'brothers'...
 
Voted closed, update will be up when it's up. It looks like the questions asked were similar, so I'll probably use a mix of the top two options for the update.
 
Do we have a picture for what Domeric looks like yet?

Because I can try and find one for the character sheet.

Edit: found these two
Credits: Selenada on Artstation
Credits: made by Thrumugnyr on Deviantart
 
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Daredevil_Dave said:
Do we have a picture for what Domeric looks like yet?

Because I can try and find one for the character sheet.

Edit: found these two
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Currently I'm using the two pictures found on Domeric Bolton's ASOIAF Wiki page.

One from his squiring days.


The other a generic picture with Domeric dressed in whatever Boltons do for casualwear.

The second one could be really in any context so I mostly just appropriated it for Domeric wearing the latest Qohorik "fashion".

Both of yours are excellent though, and definitely two ways I can imagine Domeric looking like eventually.
 
This isn't dead, by the way. I have the update half-written but I haven't been in the right frame of mind to write a lot. I might do another lore update for fun and see if I can incorporate it into the formal story update.
 
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