What else having a ghost in a animatronic, despite the enormous search in looking for a ghost that is both friendly and willing to do this, be not military matter?

And once again you have to give Karl good motivation to even try this idea and that he needs some sort of edge.
1. ??? What makes it a military matter? And even if I agreed that it was technically a military matter, it feels like you're playing word games here because your previous argument was that a private military would be too expensive, not that 'anything that technically falls under military because it can be weaponized is prohibited on principle'.
(Also, finding a ghost that is cooperative in a more general sense is something the UPS would already be invested in. Similarly, they would be interested in the idea of housing a ghost in a mechanical medium. The manpower for searching would come from their wide network, not from us paying interns to randomly stumble into abandoned houses.)

2. Yes? I repeatedly acknowledged this. I just happen to think that we'll get to this point before, let's say, summer next year. If I'm wrong, then it takes a bit longer, no big deal. It happens when it happens.

I don't think this conversation is really productive since it seems to mostly be about how soon this kind of project might be viable, not if it would be viable at all. If it helps, just write me off as unreasonably optimistic. In the end it depends on what actions and roles happen until then, and what the QM thinks makes sense at the time.
 
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1. ??? What makes it a military matter? And even if I agreed that it was technically a military matter, it feels like you're playing word games here because your previous argument was that a private military would be too expensive, not that 'anything that technically falls under military because it can be weaponized is prohibited on principle'.
(Also, finding a ghost that is cooperative in a more general sense is something the UPS would already be invested in. Similarly, they would be interested in the idea of housing a ghost in a mechanical medium. The manpower for searching would come from their wide network, not from us paying interns to randomly stumble into abandoned houses.)

2. Yes? I repeatedly acknowledged this. I just happen to think that we'll get to this point before, let's say, summer next year. If I'm wrong, then it takes a bit longer, no big deal. It happens when it happens.

I was meant more that haunted animatronics, never mind the fact Karl really does not like the idea of ghost running around the Freedy's, sounds like a huge escalation what is he willing to do at the moment.

And well this is a Quest based on numerous horror settings finding friendly ghosts will be a rarity at the best of times and one that is willing to help even more.

It is actually more easier to forcefully bend the sispirts to your will but leaving aside the ehtical and moral concerns of such practice, it is one that backfire horrible in one way or another.

Edit: besides this being horror we can aleays create those animatronics of Security Breach that are so life alike that they may as well be real people.

I guess we can always go search for that studio that make the My Friendly Neighboorhood, that is one of the few exanples the supernatural is friendly and helpful.
 
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I was meant more that haunted animatronics, never mind the fact Karl really does not like the idea of ghost running around the Freedy's, sounds like a huge escalation what is he willing to do at the moment.

And well this is a Quest based on numerous horror settings finding friendly ghosts will be a rarity at the best of times and one that is willing to help even more.

It is actually more easier to forcefully bend the sispirts to your will but leaving aside the ehtical and moral concerns of such practice, it is one that backfire horrible in one way or another
Once again, you're arguing base on Karl right now, not how the status quo may change in the future.

And once again, I acknowledge that finding a fitting ghost would be difficult, and only made viable by a wide network of informants.
Edit: besides this being horror we can aleays create those animatronics of Security Breach that are so life alike that they may as well be real people.

I guess we can always go search for that studio that make the My Friendly Neighboorhood, that is one of the few exanples the supernatural is friendly and helpful.
Edit: My reasoning behind the ghost possession was that it'd give the animatronics a supernatural punch that mere robots would lack, being able to interact with the immaterial and so on. I understand that it may seem a bit far fetched. To aid in understanding, I should explain that I'm coming from the perspective of trying to find a workaround for our limitations when it comes to defending against the supernatural. That involves a good bit of speculation. If you don't think it'd work, that's alright. Let's just leave it at that to spare Martin the stress.

Cheers
 
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Okay to stop this argument what Jastolus is proposing is possible as is finding a good spirit but very difficult. So how about change of topic huh. Will answer any question in non spoilery way! Also you are overestimating how big UPS is
 
Okay to stop this argument what Jastolus is proposing is possible as is finding a good spirit but very difficult. So how about change of topic huh. Will answer any question in non spoilery way! Also you are overestimating how big UPS is
We definitely couldn't count on the UPS like that right now. We're still only slightly involved in their wider community, meaning less pull. I was once again making assumptions about how things might look 6+ turns from now, namely after the UPS had more time for recruitment and info gathering, and we gained more pull within the organization. ("My plans are measured in centuries, etc, etc.")

But, yes, questions. I don't know if this counts as spoilery, but let's try it: How much is the FBC on the general lookout for things like weird serial killings, large scale hauntings and cults at this time?

My current assumptions are that they are a bigger organization than in canon because of how much more is happening in their domain, but I couldn't say how much they are actually on top of things. Probably not that much, given the state of... waves at the world.

(I'm partly asking because I'm curious if we might get some FBC agents checking out Hurricane if the cult continues to grow or some other phenomenon makes waves. At this point in time, Trench should still be a field agent. And the interesting thing about Trench is that a few years before becoming director, he lost his daughter to a supernatural illness because he accidentally 'brought work home', which subsequently destroyed his marriage. After that, he threw himself into his work for the bureau, and when he picked up the service weapon it was in part because he didn't much care whether he lived or died. So, he could be an interesting mirror for Karl if they meet, depending on how things play out.)
 
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How much is the FBC on the general lookout for things like weird serial killings, large scale hauntings and cults at this time?
These things are sadly a norm in this world so finding out what is real and whats not is hard. But they do send teams to investigate into most probable places where weird stuff is going on or where The Board knows something is up.
My current assumptions are that they are a bigger organization than in canon because of how much more is happening in their domain, but I couldn't say how much they are actually on top of things. Probably not that much, given the state of... waves at the world.
yeah basically this. They are somewhat bigger but the US government is diversifying so to speak.
 
Out of curiosity, for entities like jason vorhees, michael myers, leather face and freddy kruger, are they usually handled by the F.E.A.R division or the FBC?

The FBC is not really part of the US goverment anymore, rhey don't share nor cooperate woth them in any capacity.

I suppse the FBI probably handle them. Although the FBC likely would target Freedy Krugger, if they are aware of his existence.

FEAR I think at this point is the one that likely handle them, if they see as a laughing stock and not have much respect as they do in they games.
 
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Out of curiosity, for entities like jason vorhees, Michael Myers, Leather Face and Freddy kruger, are they usually handled by the F.E.A.R division or the FBC?
Only Freddy is something supernatural and the FBC is trying and failing like wow the hidden rolls have been unlucky for them anyway they are failing to stop or contain him. Keeping him to Utah is the most they managed to do. FEAR is handling the more physical stuff. They are researching what is up with the slashers and killers from creepypastas like Jeff
The FBC is not really part of the US goverment anymore, rhey don't share nor cooperate woth them in any capacity.
Actually in this setting they do sometimes still cooperate with US government to handle bigger threats. The Government however cannot call them for help. To explain FEAR and some other agencies are Prince Factions while USA is their King. FBC is an occasional ally.
 
Actually in this setting they do sometimes still cooperate with US government to handle bigger threats. The Government however cannot call them for help. To explain FEAR and some other agencies are Prince Factions while USA is their King. FBC is an occasional ally.

I suppose the FBC likely stay on the background and nobody sctually remembers to call for them, Oldest House effect, and they have to go looking for the goverment to warn them or trying to cooperate with them
 
The FBC is not really part of the US goverment anymore, rhey don't share nor cooperate woth them in any capacity.

I suppse the FBI probably handle them. Although the FBC likely would target Freedy Krugger, if they are aware of his existence.

FEAR I think at this point is the one that likely handle them, if they see as a laughing stock and not have much respect as they do in they games.
The FBC is nominally part of the government, and has authority given to them by the government.

But you make a good point in that their secrecy about their purpose, and the Oldest House suppressing awareness of them turns them effectively independent, barely accountable, and not contactable by the rest of the government unlike e.g. the FBI. (Also, they have dual loyalty towards the Board, though the average employee is probably more loyal to the country than the polyhedron.)

The exception, as far as them being contactable, would be informants and maybe high ranking government members that they themselves picked and disclosed their existence to.
 
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Scared of You New
Ralph

If someone told me last year that working at Fazbear Entertainment would involve haggling over bulk orders of cheese in a semi-abandoned industrial district under gray skies and birdless trees, I'd have said, "Neat! Sounds like an adventure."

I don't know if I should be proud of my optimism or deeply ashamed.

The warehouse door creaked open and the supplier stepped out, wiping his hands on a red-stained apron that might've once said "Kiss the Cook." Now it just said "K Cook," which sounded like some sort of weird band if you said it fast enough.

"Ralph, good to see ya," he grinned, revealing two gold teeth and what might've been a loose popcorn kernel wedged between them.

"Mr. Green," I nodded, trying not to stare at the very-not-a-cross hanging beside the door.

It was... artistic, in the wrong way. Bones and twine and something red (please God, let it be paint) looped in a strange figure that seemed to shimmer when I looked too hard at it. It hadn't been there two weeks ago when i first came to arrange the deal. I cleared my throat. "New decoration?"

"Oh, that?" Green laughed like a dying engine. "Just... finding a new path, y'know? Hope my change in faith ain't a problem for your boss."

I glanced again at the twisted thing on the wall. It looked like it was breathing. "Nope. Not a problem at all. Live and let... spiritually reconfigure."

He clapped me on the back so hard I nearly stumbled. "You're a good kid. Let's go inside and sort out those buns."

Pete

I had no idea why Corporate sent me, of all people, to look into a cult. I ran maintenance, but apparently if you knew how to fix a fryer, you could also infiltrate paranormal fan clubs. We were near a building which we followed few of the identified cult members into.

"You think they're really a cult?" whispered Gina, one of the two employees I was sent with. She worked in HR. Seemed nice. Normal. Still wore her work blazer like she expected this was going to turn into a performance review.

"They worship someone called Mister Faceless," I muttered as we sneaked closer to the building. "That scream 'normal' to you?"

"Could just be theater kids with bad hygiene," said Sam, their third. He was holding a flashlight like it'd shield him from evil. "Like a haunted Renaissance fair."

I peered through the grimy window with a pocket mirror, doing my best spy impression. Inside, about a dozen figures stood in a circle, cloaked in beige robes that looked suspiciously like hotel bathrobes. They were chanting. Something about "the forest beyond walls" and "we who cannot see, seen by you."

Then someone hit a cymbal.

"Okay, that was kinda spooky," Sam whispered. "Let's get closer."

We crept to the side of the building, where the chant was clearer through a cracked window.

"...He watches behind the static, and our minds are made clean through his gaze..."

Gina scribbled that down. I took pictures with a tiny disposable camera.

"Achoo!"

Me and Gina froze. We glanced at Sam who looked like a guilty golden retriever. The chanting stopped.

I checked through the window and saw twelve hoods staring back.

Fuck.

The door creaked open.

I braced myself for knives, daggers, maybe a human sacrifice pit, or worse, the cops getting called. Instead I was greeted by a smiling man who pulled off his hood.

"Welcome!" said the cult leader, cheerily. "We don't usually get walk-ins."

"We're not here to-" I began.

"Nonsense," said the woman who seemed to be running the show. "You're here, you're curious, you're seeking. Also its raining and you will catch a cold."

"Sorry but we uh got lost," said Gina. "We have friends to meet uh sorry for the interuption."

I looked around. The cultists were smiling. Too much.

"Don't worry we don't do sacrifices for our god," one said, chuckling. "He has a different taste of offerings."

The leader handed us pamphlets which we took just to be safe. "Have you felt his presence? Being seen by the trees? The silence that feels like screaming?"

"No..." Sam muttered, tucking the pamphlet under his shirt.

"Then you should leave now," one of them said, still smiling. "The air will thicken soon. It's not safe for the uninitiated, but feel free to visit again if you change your mind."

They walked us to the door like polite restaurant hosts. Sam bowed for some reason. Gina refused to make eye contact with anyone and I reluctantly shook one of their hands as goodbye.

"Ralph?" I blinked, surprised to see the tall, lanky Phone Guy carrying a signed purchase order and what looked like a box of hot dog buns.

"Hey, Pete," Ralph waved, puzzled. "What are you guys doing here?"

"We could ask you the same question." Gina muttered her eyes narrowed.

"This is one of the suppliers for the Grand Reopening." Ralph said cheerfully.

We looked back at the creepy building.

"This guy sells bread?" Sam asked.

"Yeah! Great rates. Organic. Locally sourced he even has a new... religion?" Ralph rubbed the back of his head. "I dunno, maybe it's a new midlife crisis thing."

Me and Gina glanced at each other. This is concerning.

Then we hard a gasp and alongside Ralph glanced at Sam. "Uh guys...My ID badge is gone."

We stared at him.

My stomach sank.

A robed figure sat in the candlelight, turning a plastic Fazbear ID card over in their fingers. The tiny, slightly awkward photo of Sam stared back at them.

The figure chuckled, low and smooth.

"Fazbear Entertainment, huh?" they whispered, placing the ID gently on an altar made of cables and broken TVs.

(Food and other supplies for Grand Reopening gained! New Actions Unlocked! The Cult is aware you are spying on them! The food you got from Mister Green is safe you checked! DC remains unchanged!)
 
and what is the difference compared to normal factions?
Okay so to explain.
Factions are divided into three types
KINGS: Actually rule their spheres of influence which could be nations unto themselves. For example Umbrellas and Governments and Murkoff. Their rules can be direct but also subtle ie bribing governors and police
Princes: They are less powerful KINGS. At most they control few towns or just are spread out thinly. Usually they are subordinate to Kings like FEAR is to USA but there are independent Princes like Freddy Kruger and FBC, Power in this instance is how much they can manipulate local governments or change laws to their liking.
Counts: Here you are right now as are the various cults and minor corporations. Counts are every other group.
I still don't trust it.
The Cult wont mess with it. They are inderectly earning cash from it after all
Yeah, this version of slenderman is definitley towards the upper end of the scale. Got his own domain and everything.
Funnier still is this fact. He is nowhere near Utah at this moment. He is on east coast doing his thing.
 
I think... is betrer not do this next turn?

WAiting things to cool off, so I hope. Thank god for Karl trait and the upgrade we did in Ash training with the guards.
The benefit of sending Ash is that he's not known to be afiliated with us.
Waiting a turn means if it fails again we can get another reduction in DC, but I'll also point out that we only have Ash for 4-6 more turns, and he's our best piece in dealing with this threat.

Funnier still is this fact. He is nowhere near Utah at this moment. He is on east coast doing his thing.
Huh. That sounds like people's fears about him being behind the forest weirdness were misplaced then.
Which wouldn't be super surprising, since the reason we know the forest is weird is unrelated to him or the cult, but rather to a seperate case of apparitions.
 
Tell that to people who want to do that. Original post my pre-plan to get if people agree with it but some people want to continue investigating the cult rather than do the missing kids one.

I mean the ctul was gatbering in strenght, leaving them runing around wothout keeping tabs on them is dangerous.

Waiting a turn means if it fails again we can get another reduction in DC, but I'll also point out that we only have Ash for 4-6 more turns, and he's our best piece in dealing with this threat.

The dice remain unchanged in that action. We would still have the +10 there to investigate them if we activate the trait but the dice remains the same.

Huh. That sounds like people's fears about him being behind the forest weirdness were misplaced then.
Which wouldn't be super surprising, since the reason we know the forest is weird is unrelated to him or the cult, but rather to a seperate case of apparitions

Nah he is there, Slendermen just not something tied to borders.

Investigating the cult is ironically less dangerous than dealing with the Slendermen since he, I hope, barely pays attention to them except when he wants something.
 
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