Then all the more reason to wait and set everything up so everything goes right when the time does come, because she has a safety net in place should things not go as planned.
Faith in Superior Firepower [Planetary Annihilation Multicross SI]
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Anouther point in my favor, better to have your fleet in Reserve should someone with sufficient power do something stupid.
There's also the fact that everyone is forgetting the people native to the Galaxy
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What about them?
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I don't even pretend to understand.
You're saying "They need to have reserves"
We're pointing out that she can instabuild reserves of her own.
And.
Fusou has enough ships to crush the repears with gravitational effects alone.
And... what? You're saying that those reserves aren't... reserve-y enough? How many ships d'you want, exactly? They're both commanders that can violate conventional physics by creating matter and mass out of nothing, who can build literally infinite amounts of ships, AND, they've got enough production facilities now to build ships every few seconds. Or possibly more than one ship per second. Perhaps faster.
They have literally infinite reserves. Given that we have three commanders NOT counting Gamma or Drich, they have triple infinity reserves.
The enemies they want to kill are hiding, away from the artifacts that let them travel quickly. They aren't exactly poised over populated worlds, waiting to strike.
The reapers cannot even run away effectively. ALL the commanders have ships that are faster, can see better, and in some cases, can probably just plain interdict the Reapers entirely, and shut down their FTL.
What about this situation, exactly, requires a plan more subtle than "Hey, those poor bastards over there, the ones that can't run away or fight back, curbstomp them until they are gone."
how about the fact that dealing with a galaxy full of sapient beings, and waiting means that those beings are more likely to be able to defend themselves should the Reapers actually menace a planet.There's also the fact that there no garentee that the reapers will be the same as in the game, and Murphy just loves it when people go in with plans like you describe.
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They have firepower the likes of which gods could not conceive.
I don't think you're quite giving this enough credit.
Also, do you invite people to punch babies? Because that's babypunch logic right there. Hey, if you wait, and invite the babypunchers later, the baby might be old enough to defend itself.
Except.
You could just, y'know, not require that in the first place because it's bloody stupid.
The sapient beings of the galaxy do not need to defend themselves, because the reapers don't need to be allowed to attack them.
It's like saying you shouldn't stop murderers from shooting people, because maybe the victims really just need to learn how to dodge bullets. It's neither likely to occur fast enough to matter, nor is it at all helpful.
Except Fusou has been taking steps to accelerate tech development by everyone, and Tiki is just flat out selling weapons, armor, and vehicles to anyone who cares to buy them, which makes your analogy rather faulty.
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From a location at the center of the visible/physical universe it would take roughly six and a half fours to for Fusou to utterly erase a universe.
I don't blame you for being afraid loosing control.
Talking about something else, like her dealing with the batarian government, but the collectors thing too, remember the awakened collectors?
vyor
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And then the reapers detonate the relays, killing every sapient in the galaxy.
GG
how do you...???? what kind of special idiot are you? Unless the relays are like some kind of cut rate Halo what makes you think that they are capable of "killing every sapient in the galaxy"? At worst the relays being blown will trash the systems that they are present in (see alpha relay explosion), and make all the ships that relied on them have to use ME FTL exclusively.
Drich
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More accurately:
Relays begin detonating.
Fusou blinks.
Solar system eradicating supernovae explosions are promptly displaced into Slipspace.
Reapers die about three seconds later.
vyor
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It's stated to detonate with the force of a supernova.
Those are deadly in a several hundred light year radius, most worlds are within that radius.
The systems they were in would still be rather dead(bar earth as the relay is a few light minutes away) mostly because fucking hell light is really fucking fast.
If Fusou's reaction time is less than 1 minute the sun could explode and all we'd notice is that someone turned off the sun (and made nearly all the mass disappear so all orbits around it become... interesting.) In fact, the Sun is some 8 minutes and 20 seconds away from the Earth at light speed, so she doesn't even need to be that fast.
Distance from the Sun tends to increase faster than the count of planets in that distance's orbit. At Pluto's orbit (and as such the Charon Relay's, approximately) light will take roughly 5.5 hours to reach Pluto from the sun, and likewise any lightspeed shockwave from Pluto to the Sun. At time spans this great the 15 minutes or so of room you've got depending relative positioning around the Sun for the Earth and Pluto isn't really that important.
Worst case scenario? Fusou has 5 hours or so to react to save the Earth.
Oh, and funny thing about supernovae?
They are explosions. They obey the laws of physics as such, and a planet behind a humongous mass (like the Sun) would not be facing anywhere near the same energy output as a planet caught out in the open.
Of course, timing etc, and the Sun's not likely to enjoy such a massive pulse of energy. But that's for later and physicists.
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vyor
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I am in fact aware that earth would be fine. I specifically noted such.
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... where does the delay come from?
'Engage' shouldn't take three whole seconds ...
Getting units into position. Fusou's ships are fast as hell, but they aren't capable of instantaneous travel. Yet.
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... Distributed across the galaxy every few %of a parsec ...
Well, yes, but there is also rate of fire and the spacing of Reaper forces to take into account. If the Reapers are all entering the galaxy in the same place all at the same (roughly) time, even if she has a Cathedral already present, her guns can't hit everything hard enough for mission kills all at once, so it would take some time to kill all of the Reapers. The three seconds is probably the amount of time it takes to get ships to where the rest of the Reapers that aren't part of the invasion force are coming from.
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They're fast enough that they might as well be instantaneous within a galaxy.
Fusou actually only needs one ship to destroy all the Reapers instantly.
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Still, unless you swapped one of the Existence-class ships over to a sort of spreadshot mode, you can't kill all of the reapers at once instantly.
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*laughs softly* You have no idea just what sort of terrifying ships and weapons I've come up with that have yet to even be referenced in the story and in fact might never be seen because I can't think of a scenario where they'd ever be needed.
... I just can't win can I. Welp, gg well played.