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Give me a bit to eat and then do some research.
Even This Power Is Not Enough OOC Thread
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CV12Hornet
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This is as good a picture I have found:
And what it generally looks like on the other side:
Now, from what I've seen the portals can't be seen through, but Bill's tactical use of the portals against Ego suggests that he, at least, knows what lies on the other side when he makes the portals.
This is as good a picture I have found:
And what it generally looks like on the other side:
Now, from what I've seen the portals can't be seen through, but Bill's tactical use of the portals against Ego suggests that he, at least, knows what lies on the other side when he makes the portals.
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Terralthra, important question:
Can Santa Claus fit his own rocket sleigh into his own bag? It would seem logical that he could do so, by the sort of... quasilogic that governs his abilities. Otherwise he'd have to leave it behind, and that would be sad.
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EDIT: I didn't know about this particular ability of Beta Ray Bill's, but my own plan was to have Santa extract a tunneling machine from his bag. He started carrying a few around after one year, when he gave one as a collective present to the children of a village who were all of one mind about what they wanted for that Christmas.
Their fathers had all been trapped by a mine cave-in, you see. And they had been so nice that year.
Well, okay, the children of the village weren't that nice. But still...
Can Santa Claus fit his own rocket sleigh into his own bag? It would seem logical that he could do so, by the sort of... quasilogic that governs his abilities. Otherwise he'd have to leave it behind, and that would be sad.
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EDIT: I didn't know about this particular ability of Beta Ray Bill's, but my own plan was to have Santa extract a tunneling machine from his bag. He started carrying a few around after one year, when he gave one as a collective present to the children of a village who were all of one mind about what they wanted for that Christmas.
Their fathers had all been trapped by a mine cave-in, you see. And they had been so nice that year.
Well, okay, the children of the village weren't that nice. But still...
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You can fit literally infinite matter as described and, presumably, this is where he carries the gifts he leaves behind. Given that the claim of Santa existing would include things like leaving cars as Christmas presents, I would assume the sleigh is, in general, small enough to fit inside.Can Santa Claus fit his own rocket sleigh into his own bag? It would seem logical that he could do so, by the sort of... quasilogic that governs his abilities. Otherwise he'd have to leave it behind, and that would be sad.
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That's what I figured; I'm going to assume that Santa can fit arbitrarily large objects into, and retrieve them from, the Bag. The main limitation is that while it may contain virtually (or even literally) everything Santa could foresee wanting to give someone as a gift or reward... It contains only the things he could foresee wanting to give as a gift or reward.
Given Santa's basic personality this excludes, e.g., torture devices, many forms of weaponry, mass mind control rays, and so on.
Though it may contain surprisingly versatile things that would NOT normally be intended as a weapon, and have the potential to be repurposed as same.
Given Santa's basic personality this excludes, e.g., torture devices, many forms of weaponry, mass mind control rays, and so on.
Though it may contain surprisingly versatile things that would NOT normally be intended as a weapon, and have the potential to be repurposed as same.
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To clarify, lord Boros didn't move at lightning speed. That was an expression.
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Okay, well, I know he's a space-traveling galactic overlord tough enough to survive being punched by One Punch Man. For all I know, he really is a Flash-level speedster, so I wanted to make allowances.
This is the challenge of RPing a godlike being without godmoding.
This is the challenge of RPing a godlike being without godmoding.
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And there we go. Took longer because, horror of horrors, I had to do advanced planning. (but seriously I did have to do some planning and note taking in advance for this thanks to Santa's level of awareness.)
CV12Hornet
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Presents now, replies tomorrow.
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I'm fairly sure you shouldn't be able to hear It-That-Slays through the portal to thus react. So, uh. This can't happen as a response.
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Shoot, sorry, I'll edit it to explain my reasoning. To explain here, Boros sees It-That-Slays slamming futilely on the portal, so he assumes it can't get through. That's his reasoning.
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Well, something is clearly slamming on the portal. From Boros's point of view, the 'something' is either Bill, Santa, or It-That-Slays. Bill created the portal in the first place, so presumably he won't have any trouble going through it, but having to abandon either of their other two allies would be seriously inconvenient.
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On the other hand, some good recon!
@TheMaskedReader
Sorry for the inconvenience.
On the other hand, some good recon!
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Reply will come tomorrow. Presents right now.
Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas!
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Hmm. Okay, I need to put some thought into what Santa will say to the others. I will admit to being a bit confused about which of the five Heralds is the one serving as chief warden of It-That-Slays' prison. Aerguon the Unslain sounds like exactly the kind of guy you'd send to hard-counter a guy named It-That-Slays... or, alternatively, exactly the kind of guy who has a long track record of never ever meeting him.
Santa Claus:
"Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"
Santa Claus:
"Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"
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Aerguon is indeed the closest- by several light years- so unless one guesses the portal to have wound up quite far from It-That-Slays realm (it hasn't, which Bill can tell even if no one else can), his proximity makes him the one.Hmm. Okay, I need to put some thought into what Santa will say to the others. I will admit to being a bit confused about which of the five Heralds is the one serving as chief warden of It-That-Slays' prison. Aerguon the Unslain sounds like exactly the kind of guy you'd send to hard-counter a guy named It-That-Slays... or, alternatively, exactly the kind of guy who has a long track record of never ever meeting him.
Santa Claus:
"Merry Christmas to all, and to all a good night!"
(in fact, he was moving in response to It-That-Slays abruptly breaking pattern.)
And in this case myth is, shall we say, earned, so his status as the unslain is a commentary on his track record. Having a name may imply nothing in particular, but an explicit title tends to imply history and, more importantly and definitively, proficiency.
While Simon_Jester's logic for the response is sound enough for me to accept, with it raised, note that the portals are apparently not possible to see through. (I'm just assuming Beta Ray Bill gets info as to what is on the other side via Stormbreaker, as he apparently does get such info in spite of the not see through nature. It makes enough sense.)
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Note that Boros' reaction, namely to try and daemon-nap that Chanter, is very sensible and exactly the kind of thing Santa Claus might have tried on his little hypervelocity recon mission... except that taking people's stuff is utterly foreign to his nature.
So instead, he just pops in, gathers information, and pops out to confer.
So instead, he just pops in, gathers information, and pops out to confer.
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Sorry I haven't replied IC lately. I'll try to get a post out today.
Sorry I haven't replied IC lately. I'll try to get a post out today.
Inactive Character: Ryougi Shiki
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I'm just making sheets for fun at this point.
Meet Glass Cannon extraordinaire. In that she has horrific offensive potential, is very slow and unwieldy, and will break at the slightest touch in this RP
Name: Ryougi Shiki.
Physical Description:
Mental Description: Calling Shiki 'calm' would be technically accurate, but misleading. Instead, she is apathetic. In her own words, she's never experienced the sensation of being alive, nor the pain of living. Conversely, she hasn't felt anything that would make her attached to her own life, other than her affection for her husband. She is possessed of an instinct that drives her to kill, but the principles instilled in her by her grandfather mean she is incredibly reluctant to do so.
Abilities:
Physical Parameters: Unfortunately, Shiki is only minorly superhuman, in the 'anime character' way, rather than something like a shounen protagonist. She is more agile and fast than strong, but she's reasonably durable. The most out-there thing she's done is leaped from the top of one building to another across the street, and that's kind of an outlier. In general, unless the opponent is incredibly minor, she is outclassed physically.
Fake Arm: After a run-in with the murderous psychic Asagami Fujino, Shiki lost her left arm and had to have it replaced with a prosthetic. Luckily, Shiki was an acquaintance of the foremost Puppet-User in the Clocktower, who replaced the limb with one that is identical in every way to casual observation, save being twice as strong and significantly more durable than her original arm. Touko also imbued in it the power to touch immaterial spirits at a range of about 10 meters.
Instinct: A 'sixth sense' that allows Shiki to perceive danger. It serves to give her about 5 seconds of forewarning, and a general direction the danger comes from. Using this, she managed to evade a serial bomber with the ability to see the future who was targeting her with a variety of timed and remote detonated explosives. According to Aozaki Touko, this ability is so honed it has reached a form of precognition.
Immune to A Very Specific Form of Hypnosis: Any hypnotic suggestion predicated on the idea of 'committing suicide' fails due to incompatible mentality. Total Enslavement or very overtly magical mind control will still work on her, but any attempt to play up feelings of wanting to die just fails.
Self-Hypnosis: When holding a sword, Shiki undergoes a shift in demeanor and mentality that renders her a better swordsman. She basically just becomes better at fighting with a sword than her skill or physical ability would imply.
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception: Shiki's largest advantage, for all its general horribleness. After her brush with death, Shiki opened her eyes able to see and understand 'Death'. Whenever Shiki looks at something with a Concept of Death (That is, it is possible for that thing to die, be destroyed, or cease to exist in some way) she sees the Lines of Death that represent the inherent flaws of that thing. If she touches the line with so much as a finger, it is irrevocably severed on a conceptual level as that things 'Death' is actualized. if Shiki cut off your arm, you could not heal it or grow it back, because you no longer have the conceptual quality of 'having an arm'. Some of the lines cause instant death, rather than simple bifurcation. Shiki's ability is limited, as she is only human, and so she can only kill things she understands to be alive- a living person, an undead, an undamaged object. That being said, if presented an opportunity, she can even kill intangible or conceptual things, such as Fujino's telekinesis or the future created by "Kuramitsu Meruka"'s Future Fixation ability. It should be noted that technically, Shiki does not require her eyes for this ability. It is also important to note that Shiki can cut something that is within something else without cutting the outer object, at least in the case of the human body. She has severed a group of Wraiths possessing her by stabbing herself in the chest without injury, and killed Fujino's appendicitis in a similar manner.
「 」: It probably won't be relevant, but it should be noted. Shiki possesses a second (technically third) personality referred to as Void (Kara), Akasha, or simply those empty brackets. This personality is the closest thing to God we have seen in the Nasuverse, her direct connection to the Root of Existence allowing her to use the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to warp reality, taking the form of "Killing the world and recreating it with differences". She claims restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, going back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, and reconstructing the orders and laws of the world would be easy for her to accomplish. Even without this reality warping power, by definition she understands everything, so the soft limitations on Shiki's use of her Mystic Eyes don't apply to her. She also doesn't care about literally anything, so even if she woke up she'd probably just go back to sleep.
Setting of Origin: Kara no Kyoukai.
History:
Ryougi is a miracle. Born into the prestigious Ryougi clan, one of the four member families in the Japanese Demon Hunter Association, which is now mostly defunct, Shiki can rightly be said to be not supposed to exist.
All humans are born with an 'Origin', the basest, most essential nature that the rest of their soul is structured around. When in a vacuum, or in a high-stress situation, this Origin pushes you in a certain direction. The man who just killed in a fit of irrationality thinks of a manner to hide the body. His Origin of 'Consumption' supplies the answer to eat it. This is an extreme example, but it serves to illustrate the point.
Shiki's Origin was Void. Nothing. The 'starting point' of her existence was a null value, in most cases this means the child dies in the womb, but the Ryougi family apparently has techniques to bring such a child to term. Somehow.
Here's where things get interesting. Due to having a hole in her soul leading to the place souls come from, Shiki's personality at birth was not a human being. It was the source of everything, Akasha, puppeting a human body. Akasha is everything, has experienced everything, been everything. Thus, it is fundamentally a static, uncaring being. Simply put, it couldn't be bothered being a human, so it created a human personality to inhabit the body and went to sleep.
More specifically, it created two personalities. This is a good thing, because the Ryougi clan are a group of psychics who strive to form a pair of personalities inside themselves. There is their 'natural' personality, and a second of the opposite gender, given the same name but in different kanji. In English, we usually render this as putting the second personality in all-caps.
Shiki grew up with, essentially, a twin brother in her head. Where Shiki was apathetic, SHIKI actually cared about things. SHIKI was the one to approach Mikiya Kokutou, now Shiki's husband, while they were in school, and talk to him and push Shiki to form a connection with someone. Of course, SHIKI also represented Shiki's murderous impulse, so there was an inherent issue with him having the lead.
Anyway, there was a string of murders and Shiki and Mikiya thought it was her (or maybe SHIKI) because the disagreements the two personalities were having was starting to separate them, and Shiki no longer knew what SHIKI did. Mikiya, being quite smitten with Shiki, tried to prove to himself she wasn't the killer (even after he saw her standing over a dead body) by watching her house all night to see if she went out, and that eventually came to a head when Shiki came out and tried to murder him.
He ran, and that situation ended when the Magus Araya Souren showed up and tried to kidnap Shiki because she has the root of all existence in her head. She stabbed him, got away, and got hit by a car and went into a coma.
In the coma, her second personality died, and Shiki experienced 'Death' personally, while remaining alive. When she eventually awoke, 2 years later, she had awoken the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
Shiki met the Magus Aozaki Touko in the hospital, who managed to convince her to keep living even though she was in despair that her other self was dead, and after dispatching the wraith-possessed corpse sent after her by Araya, Shiki got out of the hospital and met Kokutou again. Hanging around Touko's supernatural detective agency where Kokutou worked, she encountered a pair of murderers who were also related to the Demon Hunters Association and dealt with them (Fujino lost her desire to kill and went back to school a cripple, Kirie committed suicide) before meeting one Tomoe Enjou. Intrigued by the young man's claim that he murdered his family, she let him stay in her apartment, and eventually went with him to his home, where they discovered puppets of his parents and himself acting out a murder-suicide.
In a very trippy sequence Shiki meets Araya, fights him, and gets captured, the Magus planning on using her Eyes to reach the Spiral of Origin, aka Akasha, but Shiki breaks out and kills him with her sword. Araya left something of a parting gift however, in the form of the cannibalistic killer Shirazumi Lio, who was the true killer before Shiki went into a coma and who is obsessed with her. Shiki eventually kills him, finishes school, marries Kokutou, takes over the Ryougi clan (which is basically a Yakuza family) and has a daughter.
Meet Glass Cannon extraordinaire. In that she has horrific offensive potential, is very slow and unwieldy, and will break at the slightest touch in this RP
Name: Ryougi Shiki.
Physical Description:
Mental Description: Calling Shiki 'calm' would be technically accurate, but misleading. Instead, she is apathetic. In her own words, she's never experienced the sensation of being alive, nor the pain of living. Conversely, she hasn't felt anything that would make her attached to her own life, other than her affection for her husband. She is possessed of an instinct that drives her to kill, but the principles instilled in her by her grandfather mean she is incredibly reluctant to do so.
Abilities:
Physical Parameters: Unfortunately, Shiki is only minorly superhuman, in the 'anime character' way, rather than something like a shounen protagonist. She is more agile and fast than strong, but she's reasonably durable. The most out-there thing she's done is leaped from the top of one building to another across the street, and that's kind of an outlier. In general, unless the opponent is incredibly minor, she is outclassed physically.
Fake Arm: After a run-in with the murderous psychic Asagami Fujino, Shiki lost her left arm and had to have it replaced with a prosthetic. Luckily, Shiki was an acquaintance of the foremost Puppet-User in the Clocktower, who replaced the limb with one that is identical in every way to casual observation, save being twice as strong and significantly more durable than her original arm. Touko also imbued in it the power to touch immaterial spirits at a range of about 10 meters.
Instinct: A 'sixth sense' that allows Shiki to perceive danger. It serves to give her about 5 seconds of forewarning, and a general direction the danger comes from. Using this, she managed to evade a serial bomber with the ability to see the future who was targeting her with a variety of timed and remote detonated explosives. According to Aozaki Touko, this ability is so honed it has reached a form of precognition.
Immune to A Very Specific Form of Hypnosis: Any hypnotic suggestion predicated on the idea of 'committing suicide' fails due to incompatible mentality. Total Enslavement or very overtly magical mind control will still work on her, but any attempt to play up feelings of wanting to die just fails.
Self-Hypnosis: When holding a sword, Shiki undergoes a shift in demeanor and mentality that renders her a better swordsman. She basically just becomes better at fighting with a sword than her skill or physical ability would imply.
Mystic Eyes of Death Perception: Shiki's largest advantage, for all its general horribleness. After her brush with death, Shiki opened her eyes able to see and understand 'Death'. Whenever Shiki looks at something with a Concept of Death (That is, it is possible for that thing to die, be destroyed, or cease to exist in some way) she sees the Lines of Death that represent the inherent flaws of that thing. If she touches the line with so much as a finger, it is irrevocably severed on a conceptual level as that things 'Death' is actualized. if Shiki cut off your arm, you could not heal it or grow it back, because you no longer have the conceptual quality of 'having an arm'. Some of the lines cause instant death, rather than simple bifurcation. Shiki's ability is limited, as she is only human, and so she can only kill things she understands to be alive- a living person, an undead, an undamaged object. That being said, if presented an opportunity, she can even kill intangible or conceptual things, such as Fujino's telekinesis or the future created by "Kuramitsu Meruka"'s Future Fixation ability. It should be noted that technically, Shiki does not require her eyes for this ability. It is also important to note that Shiki can cut something that is within something else without cutting the outer object, at least in the case of the human body. She has severed a group of Wraiths possessing her by stabbing herself in the chest without injury, and killed Fujino's appendicitis in a similar manner.
「 」: It probably won't be relevant, but it should be noted. Shiki possesses a second (technically third) personality referred to as Void (Kara), Akasha, or simply those empty brackets. This personality is the closest thing to God we have seen in the Nasuverse, her direct connection to the Root of Existence allowing her to use the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to warp reality, taking the form of "Killing the world and recreating it with differences". She claims restructuring the laws governing atomic matter, going back in time to change the evolution and development of all life, and reconstructing the orders and laws of the world would be easy for her to accomplish. Even without this reality warping power, by definition she understands everything, so the soft limitations on Shiki's use of her Mystic Eyes don't apply to her. She also doesn't care about literally anything, so even if she woke up she'd probably just go back to sleep.
Setting of Origin: Kara no Kyoukai.
History:
Ryougi is a miracle. Born into the prestigious Ryougi clan, one of the four member families in the Japanese Demon Hunter Association, which is now mostly defunct, Shiki can rightly be said to be not supposed to exist.
All humans are born with an 'Origin', the basest, most essential nature that the rest of their soul is structured around. When in a vacuum, or in a high-stress situation, this Origin pushes you in a certain direction. The man who just killed in a fit of irrationality thinks of a manner to hide the body. His Origin of 'Consumption' supplies the answer to eat it. This is an extreme example, but it serves to illustrate the point.
Shiki's Origin was Void. Nothing. The 'starting point' of her existence was a null value, in most cases this means the child dies in the womb, but the Ryougi family apparently has techniques to bring such a child to term. Somehow.
Here's where things get interesting. Due to having a hole in her soul leading to the place souls come from, Shiki's personality at birth was not a human being. It was the source of everything, Akasha, puppeting a human body. Akasha is everything, has experienced everything, been everything. Thus, it is fundamentally a static, uncaring being. Simply put, it couldn't be bothered being a human, so it created a human personality to inhabit the body and went to sleep.
More specifically, it created two personalities. This is a good thing, because the Ryougi clan are a group of psychics who strive to form a pair of personalities inside themselves. There is their 'natural' personality, and a second of the opposite gender, given the same name but in different kanji. In English, we usually render this as putting the second personality in all-caps.
Shiki grew up with, essentially, a twin brother in her head. Where Shiki was apathetic, SHIKI actually cared about things. SHIKI was the one to approach Mikiya Kokutou, now Shiki's husband, while they were in school, and talk to him and push Shiki to form a connection with someone. Of course, SHIKI also represented Shiki's murderous impulse, so there was an inherent issue with him having the lead.
Anyway, there was a string of murders and Shiki and Mikiya thought it was her (or maybe SHIKI) because the disagreements the two personalities were having was starting to separate them, and Shiki no longer knew what SHIKI did. Mikiya, being quite smitten with Shiki, tried to prove to himself she wasn't the killer (even after he saw her standing over a dead body) by watching her house all night to see if she went out, and that eventually came to a head when Shiki came out and tried to murder him.
He ran, and that situation ended when the Magus Araya Souren showed up and tried to kidnap Shiki because she has the root of all existence in her head. She stabbed him, got away, and got hit by a car and went into a coma.
In the coma, her second personality died, and Shiki experienced 'Death' personally, while remaining alive. When she eventually awoke, 2 years later, she had awoken the Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.
Shiki met the Magus Aozaki Touko in the hospital, who managed to convince her to keep living even though she was in despair that her other self was dead, and after dispatching the wraith-possessed corpse sent after her by Araya, Shiki got out of the hospital and met Kokutou again. Hanging around Touko's supernatural detective agency where Kokutou worked, she encountered a pair of murderers who were also related to the Demon Hunters Association and dealt with them (Fujino lost her desire to kill and went back to school a cripple, Kirie committed suicide) before meeting one Tomoe Enjou. Intrigued by the young man's claim that he murdered his family, she let him stay in her apartment, and eventually went with him to his home, where they discovered puppets of his parents and himself acting out a murder-suicide.
In a very trippy sequence Shiki meets Araya, fights him, and gets captured, the Magus planning on using her Eyes to reach the Spiral of Origin, aka Akasha, but Shiki breaks out and kills him with her sword. Araya left something of a parting gift however, in the form of the cannibalistic killer Shirazumi Lio, who was the true killer before Shiki went into a coma and who is obsessed with her. Shiki eventually kills him, finishes school, marries Kokutou, takes over the Ryougi clan (which is basically a Yakuza family) and has a daughter.
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I like the bio.
On a more general note, Santa is trying to rally Beta Ray Bill, Lord Boros, and It-That-Slays to form a plan of action before Aerguon fully understands the situation and seizes the initiative. He's trying to pump It-That-Slays for information (in hopes of finding a weakness in Aerguon, or at least a mode of counterattack likely to work), and is realllly anxious to get Boros back through the portal so they can all coordinate.
On a more general note, Santa is trying to rally Beta Ray Bill, Lord Boros, and It-That-Slays to form a plan of action before Aerguon fully understands the situation and seizes the initiative. He's trying to pump It-That-Slays for information (in hopes of finding a weakness in Aerguon, or at least a mode of counterattack likely to work), and is realllly anxious to get Boros back through the portal so they can all coordinate.
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I'll note here that It-That-Slays can render life in it's Territory sentient but is unlikely to do so of it's own initiative. It certainly isn't doing so now.
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Thanks; didn't really think it would, it doesn't seem the type.
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I mean, that's accurate, but that framing is a bit odd from the perspective of why. I'm used to seeing that framing for more like 'too moral for'.
Whereas the reasons It-That-Slays isn't inclined to make sentient life are...
- It isn't a social creature by any stretch. It doesn't need intellectual peers to discuss with, or lord it's superiority over, or receive praise from, or what have you, because it's mind doesn't function that way.
- Planar patterns. Each Plane has different patterns and norms. The Wood Plane is by far least inclined towards assuming sentient life, favoring megafauna (and megaflora) as the weapons of the day. In this case, part of why It-That-Slays doesn't need sentients is he can basically hardcode a hatred of 'things not alive' into the plants and animals, because Castae stuff is uniformly not alive. Instant passive IFF.
- Sorcery mandates sentients. It's also basically worthless against Castae. Sorcery is the normal tool It-That-Slays would make a sentient population to access.
... I'd probably hesitate to say all this but this is mostly stuff almost literally etched into It-That-Slays root being/character, and Santa would be able to discern the values etc parts there.
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Eh, I'd pretty much already sussed the broad outlines of all that out, except the very specific parts involving technical details of how the Wood Plane works and what It-That-Slays can and cannot hardcode his personal collection of friendly megafauna and killer flora to do.
It-That-Slays really does come across as an asocial loner-being to a much greater extent than Leviathan, let alone Revolution Dawn, for instance. It was pretty obvious that there were reasons both Leviathan and Revolution Dawn had armies of created self-aware mortal minions, but It-That-Slays din't.
By contrast, if Leviathan were penned up by Castae instead of Honox, I'm pretty sure he would have at least seriously considered 'retiring' his fishmen minions, though he might not have decided to actually do that. And I'm pretty sure Revolution Dawn would NOT have considered doing that, and would still have a big city full of budding martial arts heroes planning to shonen her way out of the trap.
It's a personality thing, not just a "this is the optimal way to power my escape attempt" thing.
It-That-Slays really does come across as an asocial loner-being to a much greater extent than Leviathan, let alone Revolution Dawn, for instance. It was pretty obvious that there were reasons both Leviathan and Revolution Dawn had armies of created self-aware mortal minions, but It-That-Slays din't.
By contrast, if Leviathan were penned up by Castae instead of Honox, I'm pretty sure he would have at least seriously considered 'retiring' his fishmen minions, though he might not have decided to actually do that. And I'm pretty sure Revolution Dawn would NOT have considered doing that, and would still have a big city full of budding martial arts heroes planning to shonen her way out of the trap.
It's a personality thing, not just a "this is the optimal way to power my escape attempt" thing.
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That tells me I've done a good job of representing differing drives, then.
Though Dragon personalities actually tend to tie into a (certain amount of) 'optimal play'. Revolution Dawn taking the role of protective teacher is rooted in Revolution Dawn's Quirk. Which I think I haven't revealed enough of to want to say more than that.
By the same token, It-That-Slays is particularly uninclined to make sentients in part because of what it's Quirk fundamentally does. Mostly, that it can kill Dragons via Wyrms straight up, when normally Sorcery is more effective at hurting Dragons than Wyrms are.
But, well, it's kinda in the name- part of It-That-Slays Quirk is being extra effective at killing per se. In other words, it has been thwarted by Castae in part because the Daemons aren't alive. The other thing keeps getting low key alluded to- It-That-Slays can cut a range of non-physical things.
Including Dragon Territories, Jind Taint, and Weaving constructs.
(A 'normal' Dragon, not coincidentally, would be unable to kill Honox. Mind you, that clearly didn't stick, but a normal Dragon wouldn't have been able to make it happen at all. Now, all Dragons have Quirks so a 'normal' Dragon is less a properly existent thing and more 'well, when you have a Dragon who's Quirk is irrelevant'.)
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Clearly, it involves some manner of training and refinement of personal martial arts techniques, up to and through shonenesque levels of accomplishing feats like punching explosions (seen on camera), and ultimately culminating in "OURS IS THE DRILL THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!" or something simliarly overwrought and glorious.
The fact that Honox is still being used to entrap other Dragons suggests this being the case. After all, while Honox might not hard-counter just any old Dragon, if Honox's legions weren't effective against the forces of Leviathan or Revolution Dawn, another Jyre or other entity would have been found to do the same job.
Sort of like how Raliant and/or his minions came out to play after Zoss started kicking improbable amounts of ass over on the Metal Plane.
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EDIT:
Also now hoping It-That-Slays and Meti get to compare notes some day.