- Location
- ireland
Can I ask where did you get that map
Empire lost, but The Spark remains - Original setting CK2 quest
- Thread starter yannoshka
- Start date
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
Ah generalists not specialists.
@yannoshka
1. Will the brotherhoods we don't pick start gunning for our heads?
2. Why did the kingdom break down in the end? Run of bad kings, over expansion, aggression, inability to deal with local tensions?
3. Who specifically are the rebels?
4. How common are mages in this world?
5. What can magic do?
6. Is there a pantheon of Gods?
7. What are Gods and what can they do? (spark obviously, but others? More direct blessings?)
- Location
- France
Oh sorry, thought that sable knight gave us drake with wings, i have misanderstood ?
So how many years does a turn have ?
yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
Heh, well, not exactly how Spark works. To reap all of it's benefits you would have to be a god. And then there is the issue your ancestors ran into. It is functionally impossible to reach 100% blood purity because at a certain point you would hit a plateau, where every potential spouse has too small blood purity to contribute.Ahah. So the character we're starting right now wouldn't be around at the start of the turns proper, good to know. I hereby suggest that whichever plan ends up winning, we name all of our character with A starting names.
Also, it does comfort me in the idea of grabbing all of the Spark.
At that point, you can only wait and pray for a spike in your children, or try inbreeding, and that is a can of worms all of its own.
Made it with basic Inkarnate. Since I'm going premium, I can promise future maps will be better.
1. They will not start loyal to you is all I can say.
2. Mostly bad rulers. Your cousins' ancestors tried going the incest route to improving blood purity which introduced a streak of insanity a mile wide. That and they overspecialized their Spark into War and personal charisma, completely ignoring the big picture. Imagine a dynasty consisting in direct line of Ivan the Terrible, Caligula, Erzsebet Bathory, etc
3. Everyone with even a speck of importance in the empire - more or less. The previous generation in power left a REALY bad taste in everyone's mouths. The kind of hatred that is part of national identity centuries later. And, your first PC sealed the vaults holding a treasury of entire continents and generations worth of shiny. Do the maths.
4-5. True mages are gone and have been for a long time. In d'n'd terms, what is left cannot go beyond 2nd level/circle, and even those are once in a century kinda people. Most are stuck at cantrip levels. The Spark makes you the equivalent to mages of old. Get blood purity above 50% and you would be a match for Magelords of old, and they (in large groups pooling their powers) could throw down with gods.
6-7. Yes, there are several feuding pantheons. Your families personal patron is Isanella, who is one of the bigger names around. She mostly stays neutral in the squabbles of others. But, being The goddess of Stars makes it difficult to get ahold of her, which is one reason your cousins dropped the worship of gods (the other being megalomania). So, other gods might be more approachable but would be leary of accidentally stepping on Isa's toes, so no big blessings out of them, unless you've managed to win a favor. As for what they can do - almost anything that is within their domain.
They do have wings, they are just not flight worthy, especially with riders.
100 years would net you 5 turns
150 - 8
200 - 11
- Location
- France
How could we get blood purity in avoiding incest mariages ?
Okay thanks for your answers , i conserve my plan, monstruous cav is always good cav
. And with time maybe hat we will find a way to make them bigger to the point that they can fly.
Doomed Wombat
Let's go Darling!
- Location
- Dancing on wires!
AHHHH JOFFREY!
Still, that is annoying...
mmm.
There are ways to work around this, but the first priority will have to be to establish a kingdom that functions and then reassert the idea that our dynasty isn't ****ing mental.
- Location
- France
It... risk to take some generations for this. I think we should avoid incest marriage for some time... Like always.
yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
Old blood is not something unique to your family. What it means for you is
There are lots of people in the (old) empire with it, and having high 40s is, while rare, hardly unseen. Also, there are spikes in blood purity. Those are children born with purity in excess of what their parentage would indicate.
heck, it is meta information, but why not.
The best source for possible spouses of high(ish) blood purity would be the old nobility.
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[X] Plan Masters of Beasts
-[X] about a hundred and fifty years ago
-[X] Desirae Taskarim
--[X] Female
--[X]
-[X] Owl brotherhood (Spies dedicated to keeping an eye on the empire's administrative organizations agents and functionaries)
-[X] The Order of Sanguine Spear knights chapter (Variable, roll what you get. Primarily infantry, monsterslayers)
-[X] Army support depo (Extra resources. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading elite units. Lowers initial army upkeep. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Royal House of Horse (Start with horses, donkeys and mules. Exceptional horseflesh. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any equines or equinine creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading horseriding elite and knight units. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Royal Aviary (Start with various useful birds. Improved morale. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any birds or birdlike creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Windrider and Sable knights. Affects Diplomacy, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Complete royal kennels (Start with trained canines and felines. Improved morale. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any canines and/or felines or similar creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Greyhowl knights. Potentially affects every/any attribute)
-[X] Royal apiary society (Starts with bees, honey and wax. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any insects or insectile creatures you might encounter. Affects Stewardship)
-[X] Imperial College of Horticulture (Extra resources. Improves food supplies. Improves population growth. Affects Intrigue, Stewardship and Learning.)
-[X] Elements of the imperial VI border legion (counts as 2. Lots of regular troops and their support elements. Skirmishing, scouting and defensive emplacements. Raises morale. Affects Martial and Intrigue. Increases your population by 20%; soldiers and dependants. Decreases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Far south - Nothing is known save that there is land to the south.
--[X] Come from Port Erya
-[X] Tablets of Concordat (???; connected to The Spark)
-[X] Falchion of favorable fortune (start with fortune tier 2)
-[X] about a hundred and fifty years ago
-[X] Desirae Taskarim
--[X] Female
--[X]
-[X] The Order of Sanguine Spear knights chapter (Variable, roll what you get. Primarily infantry, monsterslayers)
-[X] Army support depo (Extra resources. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading elite units. Lowers initial army upkeep. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Royal House of Horse (Start with horses, donkeys and mules. Exceptional horseflesh. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any equines or equinine creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading horseriding elite and knight units. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Royal Aviary (Start with various useful birds. Improved morale. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any birds or birdlike creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Windrider and Sable knights. Affects Diplomacy, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Complete royal kennels (Start with trained canines and felines. Improved morale. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any canines and/or felines or similar creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Greyhowl knights. Potentially affects every/any attribute)
-[X] Royal apiary society (Starts with bees, honey and wax. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any insects or insectile creatures you might encounter. Affects Stewardship)
-[X] Imperial College of Horticulture (Extra resources. Improves food supplies. Improves population growth. Affects Intrigue, Stewardship and Learning.)
-[X] Elements of the imperial VI border legion (counts as 2. Lots of regular troops and their support elements. Skirmishing, scouting and defensive emplacements. Raises morale. Affects Martial and Intrigue. Increases your population by 20%; soldiers and dependants. Decreases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Far south - Nothing is known save that there is land to the south.
--[X] Come from Port Erya
-[X] Tablets of Concordat (???; connected to The Spark)
-[X] Falchion of favorable fortune (start with fortune tier 2)
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yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
You are one over the limit. Legion elements count as 2...[X] Plan Masters of Beasts
-[X] about a hundred and fifty years ago
-[X] Desirae Taskarim
--[X] Female
--[X]-[X] Owl brotherhood (Spies dedicated to keeping an eye on the empire's administrative organizations agents and functionaries)
-[X] The Order of Sanguine Spear knights chapter (Variable, roll what you get. Primarily infantry, monsterslayers)
-[X] Army support depo (Extra resources. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading elite units. Lowers initial army upkeep. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Royal House of Horse (Start with horses, donkeys and mules. Exceptional horseflesh. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any equines or equinine creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading horseriding elite and knight units. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Royal Aviary (Start with various useful birds. Improved morale. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any birds or birdlike creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Windrider and Sable knights. Affects Diplomacy, Stewardship and/or Learning)
-[X] Complete royal kennels (Start with trained canines and felines. Improved morale. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any canines and/or felines or similar creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Greyhowl knights. Potentially affects every/any attribute)
-[X] Royal apiary society (Starts with bees, honey and wax. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any insects or insectile creatures you might encounter. Affects Stewardship)
-[X] Elements of the imperial VI border legion (counts as 2. Lots of regular troops and their support elements. Skirmishing, scouting and defensive emplacements. Raises morale. Affects Martial and Intrigue. Increases your population by 20%; soldiers and dependants. Decreases the chance of getting discovered)
-[X] Far south - Nothing is known save that there is land to the south.
--[X] Come from Port Erya
-[X] Tablets of Concordat (???; connected to The Spark)
-[X] Falchion of favorable fortune (start with fortune tier 2)
Although....
how about this peeps.
Someone make me a small omake, anything will do, so long as it tries to stay in universe, and everyone can pick an eight choice of who/what to bring as well.
Btw, just for my personal curiosity, have you blindly picked where to come from, or did any of you consult the map?
- Location
- Sydney
I looked at the map, and picked Sheya because it looked the most distance from Gurni island. I am hoping that when we depart Sheya and travel south, the people left in Sheya will not realise we then traveled east and then north.
The plan Birds and Boats is aimed at minimising discovery and making a very defensive base.
Also with the Royal Aviary, I am hoping we can tame a large bird or birdlike creature that we encounter (and one that can fly) so we have flying archers. Is that possible?
yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
You can certainly try
whether you could succeed...
Non-Canon Omake EWilanO
Added new option due to omake (Edit in bold)
[X] Plan Northern Ravens v 2.0
[X] about two hundred years ago
[X] Astrid Tasakarim
-[X] Female
Appearance
[X] Raven brotherhood (Those who keep the other five spy brotherhoods in check)
[X] Company of Windriders (elite superfast light cavalry/scouts/messengers. Ride wingless hypogryphs)
[X] The regiment of Blackshaft bowmen (elite longbowmen)
[X] Army support depo (Extra resources. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading elite units. Lowers initial army upkeep. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Medicine (Start with high morale. Easier to find spouses. Increases chances of passing on positive inheritable traits. Reduces the chance for negative traits to occur. Improves population growth. Affects Diplomacy, Intrigue and/or Piety. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Royal Aviary (Start with various useful birds. Improved morale. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any birds or birdlike creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Windrider and Sable knights. Affects Diplomacy, Stewardship and/or Learning)
[X] Complete royal kennels (Start with trained canines and felines. Improved morale. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any canines and/or felines or similar creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Greyhowl knights. Potentially affects every/any attribute)
[X] Imperial College of Architecture (Extra resources. Improves morale. Cheaper and quicker building projects. Affects all attributes. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Philosophy and Arts (Start with exceptional morale. Easier to find spouses. Affects all attributes. Slightly decreases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Horticulture (Extra resources. Improves food supplies. Improves population growth. Affects Intrigue, Stewardship and Learning.)[/QUOTE]
[X] Gurni island - The green hell.
-[X] Come from Garruk
[X] Tablets of Concordat (???; connected to The Spark)
Here am omake for an eight choice:
Astrid Taskarim threw a last, long glance over her shoulder, as the final rope was loosened and the sailer pushed the ship away from the jetty with their long poles and the small fleet of repuposed merchant ship that had been painstakingly assembled out of all the ships she and her close kin, had been assemble on such short notice, in order to transport her people towards safety, got underway.
Her thoughts were tumbling through her head so fast, she hardly could say which emotions she felt in that moment. Anger about what had befallen her sept and those sworn to her, sorrow about all those lost, fear that her enemies miht just catch up to them nd destroy eveythin she, no they, had worked so hard for, determination that her close kin would do everything in their power so that her people would live, hope that they would be able to create a better future and perhaps in the just a smidge of eagerness for something new.
The sudden sound of the ships captain clearin his throat roused Astrid from her contemplation and a strong, callused hand closed on her wrist to prevent her from over-balacing in her new, as yet still unacustomed state of being on the deck of a ship.
"Yes captain?"
"M'h Lady, pardon for disturing yeh. I didna mean to startle yeh."
"That's alright captain.How may I help you? Well, m'h Lady, I meanta report that ev'ryone is settled down and we have one underway just in time. If the comp'ny o' archers, we just loaded. had been just a mite bit later, we couldna have cought the tide just rig't, if ya see what I mean. If we didna make the tide,we would hafta row 'em outta the harbor,ya see. 't woulda'v been a piece of hard graft. They are good ships, ya see, but rowing against the current, well ..."
"It's all right captain, I understand. my compliment to the crews. We owe it to them that we made the tide.I think a small adition to their ration tonight might be in order. "
"Thank ye, m'Lady, ithat's right kind of ye."
"No captain, I just believe that those who do good work need to recieve adequate compensation, and if they were to work for me, it is my duty that they recieve what they a rightly due."
[X] Plan Northern Ravens v 2.0
[X] about two hundred years ago
[X] Astrid Tasakarim
-[X] Female
Appearance
[X] Raven brotherhood (Those who keep the other five spy brotherhoods in check)
[X] Company of Windriders (elite superfast light cavalry/scouts/messengers. Ride wingless hypogryphs)
[X] The regiment of Blackshaft bowmen (elite longbowmen)
[X] Army support depo (Extra resources. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading elite units. Lowers initial army upkeep. Affects Martial, Stewardship and/or Learning. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Medicine (Start with high morale. Easier to find spouses. Increases chances of passing on positive inheritable traits. Reduces the chance for negative traits to occur. Improves population growth. Affects Diplomacy, Intrigue and/or Piety. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Royal Aviary (Start with various useful birds. Improved morale. Improved food supplies. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any birds or birdlike creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Windrider and Sable knights. Affects Diplomacy, Stewardship and/or Learning)
[X] Complete royal kennels (Start with trained canines and felines. Improved morale. Easier to deal with/tame/raise any canines and/or felines or similar creatures you might encounter. Better chance of maintaining/upgrading Greyhowl knights. Potentially affects every/any attribute)
[X] Imperial College of Architecture (Extra resources. Improves morale. Cheaper and quicker building projects. Affects all attributes. Slightly increases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Philosophy and Arts (Start with exceptional morale. Easier to find spouses. Affects all attributes. Slightly decreases the chance of getting discovered)
[X] Imperial College of Horticulture (Extra resources. Improves food supplies. Improves population growth. Affects Intrigue, Stewardship and Learning.)[/QUOTE]
[X] Gurni island - The green hell.
-[X] Come from Garruk
[X] Tablets of Concordat (???; connected to The Spark)
Here am omake for an eight choice:
Astrid Taskarim threw a last, long glance over her shoulder, as the final rope was loosened and the sailer pushed the ship away from the jetty with their long poles and the small fleet of repuposed merchant ship that had been painstakingly assembled out of all the ships she and her close kin, had been assemble on such short notice, in order to transport her people towards safety, got underway.
Her thoughts were tumbling through her head so fast, she hardly could say which emotions she felt in that moment. Anger about what had befallen her sept and those sworn to her, sorrow about all those lost, fear that her enemies miht just catch up to them nd destroy eveythin she, no they, had worked so hard for, determination that her close kin would do everything in their power so that her people would live, hope that they would be able to create a better future and perhaps in the just a smidge of eagerness for something new.
The sudden sound of the ships captain clearin his throat roused Astrid from her contemplation and a strong, callused hand closed on her wrist to prevent her from over-balacing in her new, as yet still unacustomed state of being on the deck of a ship.
"Yes captain?"
"M'h Lady, pardon for disturing yeh. I didna mean to startle yeh."
"That's alright captain.How may I help you? Well, m'h Lady, I meanta report that ev'ryone is settled down and we have one underway just in time. If the comp'ny o' archers, we just loaded. had been just a mite bit later, we couldna have cought the tide just rig't, if ya see what I mean. If we didna make the tide,we would hafta row 'em outta the harbor,ya see. 't woulda'v been a piece of hard graft. They are good ships, ya see, but rowing against the current, well ..."
"It's all right captain, I understand. my compliment to the crews. We owe it to them that we made the tide.I think a small adition to their ration tonight might be in order. "
"Thank ye, m'Lady, ithat's right kind of ye."
"No captain, I just believe that those who do good work need to recieve adequate compensation, and if they were to work for me, it is my duty that they recieve what they a rightly due."
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Dmol8
The Undead Unhinged Lunatic of the Web
- Location
- Belgrade,Serbia
- Pronouns
- He/Him/His
So @yannoshka what does the Brotherhood of Talon give us? I mean they are the Royal Assassins and the only voting option written in invisible text so I'm curious what do they bring to the table.
- Location
- ireland
That's really good
yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
Well spotted, was waiting for someone to notice them!
Unique intrigue options. And significantly reduce the chance of detection.
Also, to all of you folks - Made a correction on the spelling mistake. It is Tasakarim for the empire/continent and Tasakar for the family.
Canon(ish) Omake Kalrotix
- Location
- France
Omake
A serment on blood.
Tears of rage and despair run down the cheeks of the empress as she see the palace of her family burn. This palace was build by her ancestor Turgud Tasakar, and expand by generations of their dynasty. This place saw the greats moments of the dynasty, mighty emperors and empress took place on his throne, treaties who forged the nation, serments made by knights to protect the empire.
Oh, the story of this palace wasn't always shiny and glorious. Terrible conspiracies, murders, horribles actes of cruelty and fights took place here. And from a certain perspective she understood the priests and the rebels who said that this palace was the symbol of the decadence of her family.
But how could she it like this ? This place where she was born? Where she played and hided when she was a little girl ? Where she had her first kiss and first love ? Where she had her family and her friends?
How could she ?
After a last look at her home and her stolen land she turned to her last peoples remaining loyal. She saw their despairs and their doubts. So she took her knife and cut the palm of her hand.
-I swear on the blood of my dynasty, in front of you, my land and the gods that one day we will return take what is ours ! One day ! The empire will be back in our right hands. I made this serment on m'y blood ! And all m'y descendants will swear the oath until we return!
@yannoshka it is good enough to have the bonus?
A serment on blood.
Tears of rage and despair run down the cheeks of the empress as she see the palace of her family burn. This palace was build by her ancestor Turgud Tasakar, and expand by generations of their dynasty. This place saw the greats moments of the dynasty, mighty emperors and empress took place on his throne, treaties who forged the nation, serments made by knights to protect the empire.
Oh, the story of this palace wasn't always shiny and glorious. Terrible conspiracies, murders, horribles actes of cruelty and fights took place here. And from a certain perspective she understood the priests and the rebels who said that this palace was the symbol of the decadence of her family.
But how could she it like this ? This place where she was born? Where she played and hided when she was a little girl ? Where she had her first kiss and first love ? Where she had her family and her friends?
How could she ?
After a last look at her home and her stolen land she turned to her last peoples remaining loyal. She saw their despairs and their doubts. So she took her knife and cut the palm of her hand.
-I swear on the blood of my dynasty, in front of you, my land and the gods that one day we will return take what is ours ! One day ! The empire will be back in our right hands. I made this serment on m'y blood ! And all m'y descendants will swear the oath until we return!
@yannoshka it is good enough to have the bonus?
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
[X] Plan knight drake, birds and knowledge
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yannoshka
Thunda birb
- Location
- Smartarse cramschool
Non-canon but good enough.
Turgud was not the one who built the empire, that was Talasin. Well, not even him, but he started the process. The first Tasakar emperor was, in fact, an empress. One Aseryah Tasakar. Ole' Talasin's great-granddaughter. The generations preceding her up to Tal were more first amongst equals, leaders of alliances, kind of deal. Turgud did have a 'palace' though. Well, a big sturdy fortress. Gudi was not what one might call, much given to aesthetics.
And, your Starting character is more in the lines of 'poor country cousin'. A side branch of the family. That is why you start with low blood purity.
ThatGuyWithIdeas
Treize died for our sins
- Location
- Romania
So... each plan get another choice on the "choose seven" section?
EDIT: Well then... saw the update on the first post... thanks for the info, QM.
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@yannoshka, did the omake I wrote satisfy your requirements?
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- Location
- France
Thanks. I will bring corrections later to try To make it Cannon ^^ Non i'm on my Phone so it isn't est.
So peoples who vote for m'y plan and the others i add army depot To my actual plan because i think that it will be important in the future to conserve the streght of our élites troops. But don't hesitate to tell me what you think and if you have other ideas.