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Echo of Choice (A Destiny Plan Quest)

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I would keep in mind, neither Destiny nor Halo are settings where we see robot armies. (Unless you count the Vex)

The Last Cities 'Frame's are known to be pretty terrible in a straight fight. Sure they are being compared to Lightbearers, but the certainly werent able to do much even when Guardians werent around. Sure, Rasputins own special mecha were fairly potent in Season of the Worthy, but the security frames in the Bray labs on Europa were getting utterly ruined by the Hive.

The UNSC never really got into drones or other autonomous weapons systems either. We see a UAV in ODST, but I cant recall anywhere else we see unpiloted craft or platforms. Probably something to do with worry about getting compromised by enemy AI.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
I would keep in mind, neither Destiny nor Halo are settings where we see robot armies. (Unless you count the Vex)

The Last Cities 'Frame's are known to be pretty terrible in a straight fight. Sure they are being compared to Lightbearers, but the certainly werent able to do much even when Guardians werent around. Sure, Rasputins own special mecha were fairly potent in Season of the Worthy, but the security frames in the Bray labs on Europa were getting utterly ruined by the Hive.

The UNSC never really got into drones or other autonomous weapons systems either. We see a UAV in ODST, but I cant recall anywhere else we see unpiloted craft or platforms. Probably something to do with worry about getting compromised by enemy AI.
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we aint limited to only using destiny tech or halo tech
the existance of metal gear nanobot expies show that
 
So if I remember the order in destiny the traveler terraformed two of jupiters moons first. Then it was Mercury, Venus afterwords was Mars. So there should be a lot of free real estate if we can somehow manage to get up there. But not sure if we are going to get wiped out first.
 
JohnDoe22 said:
So if I remember the order in destiny the traveler terraformed two of jupiters moons first. Then it was Mercury, Venus afterwords was Mars. So there should be a lot of free real estate if we can somehow manage to get up there. But not sure if we are going to get wiped out first.
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We currently have no meaningful spacelift capability to even begin colonizing.

The Mars mission would have, for obvious reasons, been using the absolute best ship we had available and it only sat three people. And I'm not sure we are getting that ship back any time soon.

Colonizing any of the worlds the Traveller has so politely prepared for us is gonna be a matter of decades on the low end. Especially now that our technological gifts are slowing to a crawl.

I don't believe we have interstellar engines to reach Mars in a reasonable timeframe, let alone Mercury or the Jovians. We are about to go into a Death War with the Chimera, so resources for survey missions to the new worlds will be short in coming unless world governments deem it a strategic imperative to get boots-on-ground.

We dont have orbital infrastructure to make assembling larger ships outside the gravity well possible. Nor experience in building space ships that can move more than a couple dozen people safely into orbit, let alone the passenger lines we would need to get seed populations out there. So even with Traveller gifts that would be several years of testing before we start bringing people up. And that before finding people willing to fly to another planet to stay for the foreseeable future to build colonies.

Venus is a question mark, because there is some lore saying that a group called the 'Hesperonauts' were involved in terraforming Venus. And Mars is infested with Chimera, which makes it both the most likely in the long term and least viable in the short term. Mercury... should be fine?

And obviously if the Chimera start building warships, which... they probably will, they will seize control of the orbitals effectively uncontested.

It really is not looking great.
 
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Roaming_Guardian said:
And obviously if the Chimera start building warships, which... they probably will, they will seize control of the orbitals effectively uncontested.
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russian chimeras are stuck at working with currently avaible industry and it will take years before they can begin to develop truly alien stuff

mars chimeras worries me,they have access to cloning tech that speaks of high tech infrastructure,who knows how long before they begin to up tech and produce warpships aiming at earth
 
armentho said:
This one is neat as it gets

A +10 per dice means we get a exponential increases of positive crits

(To hit a crit we only need roll a 90 or higher once from the dozens of dices,every dice has 10% crit chance)
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+20. His bonus just increased.
armentho said:
I reccomend doing armor integration,given destiny earth is late 2020s to 2040s maybe even 2050s level of tech (drone and AI integration)
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This is a phased project and I doubt any individual phase is going to amount to much against the Chimera.

There is alien tech under major cities, such as Moscow and saint Petersburg.
 
...I actually need to retract a lot of my pessimism. I forgot one simple fact.

The Traveller is awake and uninjured.

In the full breadth of its power.

And anything short of the full might of the Black Fleet or Oryx Dreadnaught cannot touch it. Hell, even still wracked with scars it was able to zap Rhulk like a naughty child when he tried to take Light from a Ghost.

I question why the Traveller wasn't able to STOP whatever killed the Speakers or the Chimera from reaching Earth. But it will intervene. It SHOULD have done so already.
 
Randino Treviani said:
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on the ruins:
yeah,but it will take them time to roll out things even if they scavenge grey tech
it took well over a decade for the chimera to take over the world in resistance

ideally the world would do a ''scorched earth policy",evac as many russians as possible and nuke every city west of the urals
if russia falls entirely,then do the same but include western russia too

good luck building shit with your barehands

on the phased project:
the way dice works seems to be that bonuses apply to rolls.with +20 to every dice,thats roughly a 89% crit chance on at least 1 dice out of 10

now that we unlocked bonuses per dice instead of just flat bonuses we can snowball just as quick as the chimera done so far,is a matter of choosing where to put our MC bonuses
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
...I actually need to retract a lot of my pessimism. I forgot one simple fact.

The Traveller is awake and uninjured.

In the full breadth of its power.

And anything short of the full might of the Black Fleet or Oryx Dreadnaught cannot touch it. Hell, even still wracked with scars it was able to zap Rhulk like a naughty child when he tried to take Light from a Ghost.

I question why the Traveller wasn't able to STOP whatever killed the Speakers or the Chimera from reaching Earth. But it will intervene. It SHOULD have done so already.
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It opposed the roll. For some reason, it had a bonus 10 less than it's opposition before M, and the clash was decided in a single set of rolls. I don't understand how that lead to such a colossal, over the top victory either, but we're stuck with it.
armentho said:
the way dice works seems to be that bonuses apply to rolls.with +20 to every dice,thats roughly a 89% crit chance on at least 1 dice out of 10
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Right. John's bonus. Okay, yeah, you have a point, though the odds of 1 dice out of 11 being 80 isn't actually that high, since it has to be precisely an art nat 100.
 
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Randino Treviani said:
It opposed the roll. For some reason, it had a bonus 10 less than it's opposition before M, and the clash was decided in a single set of rolls. I don't understand how that lead to such a colossal, over the top victory either, but we're stuck with it.
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Ok. Yeah I missed that. And I too question why what is arguably the single most powerful single entity, at the least part of the most powerful twinned pair, in the universe gets a smaller bonus on ANY roll than anything short of Witty and the Triangles.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
Ok. Yeah I missed that. And I too question why what is arguably the single most powerful single entity, at the least part of the most powerful twinned pair, in the universe gets a smaller bonus on ANY roll than anything short of Witty and the Triangles.
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Yup. Darkness is supposed to be weaker than Ball Mom but more numerous, and deciding something like whether every speaker besides john lives or dies off a pair of competing rolls that beat Ball Mom by less than 30 is just a ridiculous scale.

When the whole premise of the quest start we voted for was an early start where we are smaller but can build up in time to shift things when they get serious, applying this scale of events we have no way of appreciably influencing in an appropriate time scale, utterly annihilates quest balance.

At this point we're effectively single handedly shouldering the ascension of mankind with no one onside but an isolated Ball Mom, ineffective M, and S, because of a single roll, while we are still in single digit turns on the lowest resource and tech quest start.
 
Randino Treviani said:
At this point we're effectively single handedly shouldering the ascension of mankind with no one onside but an isolated Ball Mom, ineffective M, and S, because of a single roll, while we are still in single digit turns on the lowest resource and tech quest start.
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…At least the attack scale roll wasn't a natcrit…
edboy49 said:
How many were killed (not counting John):
94+ 30 (Direct attack)= 124
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It was exactly one away from 95…
Edit:More accurately 4 away. 😅
 
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Themarineguy said:
…At least the attack scale roll wasn't a natcrit…

It was exactly one away from 95…
Edit:More accurately 4 away. 😅
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Which makes it even more brutal that they got LITERALLY ALL OF THEM.

Couldn't miss a few thousand, or even a few hundred. Or even ten.

The only survivors were us, by sheer chance, and the one Speaker who happens to be effectively camping underneath the Traveller itself.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
We do at least still have Clovis Bray.

...that was physically painful to type.
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Clovis hates our guts. A collaboration is not on the table.
Themarineguy said:
…At least the attack scale roll wasn't a natcrit…

It was exactly one away from 95…
Edit:More accurately 4 away. 😅
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It was a crit.
edboy49 said:
Where:
1-Personal
2-Group
3-Company
4-Nation
5-World
Roll= 5
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The roll to determine the target was 5, which might as well be a crit. Why world was a rollable option when we're playing a single company with limited assets that just started out, I can only guess at.
 
Okay, several things to talk about.

First...
Cyberphilosipher said:
A Great Whisper of Terror
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Good omake.
Canon.

As to say what happening, one thing that Speakers could be considered for is that they were the ones that had the most potential to change humanity for the better (leaders, researchers, warriors, etc)

Obviously in the case of MA, the R&D nerds that died were the ones that would have developed the first versions of Halo UNSC weapons we all know and love.

As for reward, choose one:
A. +10 to an action
B. +15 to attempt to create UNSC weapons from MA.

Roaming_Guardian said:
The Mars mission would have, for obvious reasons, been using the absolute best ship we had available and it only sat three people. And I'm not sure we are getting that ship back any time soon.
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I guess I forgot to mention but the Ares One orbital ship looks exactly like the one used in The Martian.
 
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