Contrast the Androids/Cell saga, where the only time the heroes had the upper hand and blew it was against Gero himself and then when Goku gave Cell a senzu bean - only one rewrite and one mistake to stretch it out unnecessarily, rather than a half dozen of each.
1. Goku coming back was Toriyama's decision, not fan pressureThere were several points where it was only essentially bad luck or author fiat that the heroes lost - Goku trying to pass the torch, Gotenks not taking things seriously enough, Gohan getting one shotted despite being stronger purely because readers and editors wanted Goku back in the main character seat, Vegeto insisting on rescuing the absorbed people despite having access to Namekian dragonballs to bring them back later. Each time the heroes had the upper hand and only lost because the story needed them to or they made a mistake. Hell, they could have easily vaporized Buu's cocoon with no consequences if Vegeta hadn't picked the literal worst time for a midlife crisis, or even if Goku had simply tried to fight Majin Vegeta quickly rather than stretch the fight out.
Contrast the Androids/Cell saga, where the only time the heroes had the upper hand and blew it was against Gero himself and then when Goku gave Cell a senzu bean - only one rewrite and one mistake to stretch it out unnecessarily, rather than a half dozen of each.
Also it's the only arc in all of DBZ where literally every power up is useless. SS3, Fusion, Gohan's full potential unlock, none of them mean anything and they all have multiple episodes dedicated to them.
To make matters worse, the only viable funny traits for Buu are either shared with Cell (you could play Super Buu as incongruously clever and refined, but they did that with Cell) or just rehashing canon (since Buu, especially Fat Buu, was very much a silly character in canon).One factor is outside of Babidi and his minions (who are weak, Dabura aside, and even Dabura only requires SSJ2 to beat), there's no significant sub villains, there's no progress one can make along the way past the early bits.
Saiyan had Raditz, the Saibamen, and Nappa. Namek had Zarbon & Dedoria and the Ginyus. Android saga had Android 21, beating up 17, and forcing Cell to run a lot. Baby had fighting the various possessed people along the way. There's a number of small wins before hitting the brick walls of the main bosses.
Which from the Abridged point of view, what do you do when 2/3rds the arc has one villain to play off? With three forms, one of which barely talks.
"And yes, we know, there's more story to work with. But in all honesty... there just isn't the emotional attachment and passion for the arc that drove the last three seasons. This is another, very personal reason, but it's unavoidable.
We do not enjoy tearing down and mocking the things we love. We want to celebrate them, expand on them, explore them, and sometimes make light of their shortcomings. That's what gave you the best of DBZA up until now, and ultimately, we find ourselves at odds with that approach and the majority of the Buu Saga."
You know, I haven't seen the Buu saga in a long, long time. So I'm kinda curious about this statement?
Yeah that's a big thing. For Team Four Star to actually make it any further in the industry they have to abandon the abridge stuff. Not only has Team Four Star grown beyond DBZA, they have to move beyond it.Also I get the sense from that post that Toei has been leaning on US companies extra hard to keep the TFS folks from getting work.
The movie rehashes in Super were worse than Buu, IMO, but that's an entirely different kinda kettle of fish.
As fantastic a dream that'd be, she's not shown up in the anime
There would be a lot more porn, and vore would be a more mainstream fetish.As fantastic a dream that'd be, she's not shown up in the anime
Imagine how different the past two decades would be if she existed in the story
I mean, there were things I really liked about the Buu saga, but when I look at the number of episodes and those moments, it's kinda comical how spaced out they are. Like, the end of the Buu Saga managed to be as epic as the end of the Cell Saga, with all the people of Earth giving their energy to Goku's Spirit Bomb. But it took a *long* time to get there.
And a lot of the Freeza Saga was the big fight, too. Still long in DBZA, but easy to skip bits as needed.The sheer length of the buu Saga cannot be overstated. It's as long as the two arcs before it combined and the Frieza Saga was already pretty damn long on it's own.