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bigreader said:
okay my question if he is me or doesn't know how to use magic in the Skyrim way how is he enchanting his weapons? I mean I know he's supposed to be using the voice but you don't really enchant weapons with the voice in Tamriel
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you do elemental fury for yourself which even its description as well as its lore in stone's you find on your way up to 7000 steps states it is enchantment
for teammates its battle fury if am not mistaken the name

then there are items like mask of alkosh a mask enchanted with draconic divine power (not regular divine power) of akatosh
there is amulet of kings which is enchanted pretty much with divine power of akatosh
the rest of the dragon priest masks you find in skyrim are enchanted by dragons
and dont you think a staff capable of opening a portal to sovngarde a pocket of aetherius the heaven of the 9 gods is a making of draconic power ?

all the more reason that dragonborn is capable of invading tenkai

***Tobi a melted down version of healing ice in form of not holy but rather spirit water can be done and it would be hm "lovely" to think of black mesa's xen healing water and its singing voice
 
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RandomDwarf said:
"okay, you get your powers back, but only if you fight these dragons for one day, and only for a short time then its back to being sealed." kind of deal.
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Yeah, that sounds like something Ouranos may say.......although im not sure he would actually allow gods to use their Arcanum. The whole point of the gods descending was so they could experience a "mortal life".

RandomDwarf said:
meh, those adventurers are scrubs for not going full-tilt "LOOT, PILLAGE, BURN"...bloody scrubs.
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Yeeeeeeaaaaah no, if you try to make adventurers like that you get familias like the Gremlin's (aka Kali) and the great Idiot (aka Ares) besides they already pillage the Dungeon

Tobi said:
Akatosh and Alduin...They will...appear down the line. In an interesting way.
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To what? Alduin to act as his brother's best man and Akatosh to march Hestia to the Altar?
 
bigreader said:
okay my question if he is me or doesn't know how to use magic in the Skyrim way how is he enchanting his weapons? I mean I know he's supposed to be using the voice but you don't really enchant weapons with the voice in Tamriel
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Only due to gameplay and engine limitations; lore-wise a Tongue or Dovah can absolutely enchant things with the Thu'um.

In fact, used correctly, the Thu'um is capable of far greater feats than magicka; as demonstrated by the Dwemer.
 
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Neruz said:
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I see, thanks for all the info. I kinda forgot about tonal magic. It's good to have a refresher and yeah the Thu'um is really diverse but unless your a Dragonborn or a dragon you're not that talented in it. Also indeed from the dragons POV they would see no reason to innovate much.

Damn of course there are mods to make Paarthurnax into a waifu. I am so thankful for the hard work of the modders.


bigreader said:
okay my question if he is me or doesn't know how to use magic in the Skyrim way how is he enchanting his weapons? I mean I know he's supposed to be using the voice but you don't really enchant weapons with the voice in Tamriel
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To give you a simple answer remember how there are word walls in Skyrim. The users of the Thu'um can shout the words into things an example would be the greybeards and Paarthurnax shouting words to teach the Dragonborn into the ground which makes a glowing symbol. I just took that concept, Ysmir remembers that part of the game and tries to shout the word into the weapons he makes. The runes on the weapons are just dragon words that are slapped on.

I hope that's a good answer, the others who answered your questions also bring up good points.

kayra said:
İdont agree with 4.th :D

making paarth female is a weird concept not because his voice is male but because of jill - female children of aka

well did i found this :D
yep its pretty mch H. type anime content

if only those were english if you have english link can i get one :D
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I was only able to find the translated pages for four dragons. Hopefully, the rest can be translated soon.

Here is what I found.






Good, good. I can use this information in future plots. Thanks as always.

kayra said:
you do elemental fury for yourself which even its description as well as its lore in stone's you find on your way up to 7000 steps states it is enchantment for teammates its battle fury if am not mistaken the name.
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Ysmir really should use elemental fury and make a dagger for that. It's got some good uses in battle and everyday life.

Ysmir doesn't have a reason to invade at the moment.


Caldon said:
Huh, Skyrim dragon waifus...
Nice
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All hail the waifus!

Garreon said:
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The gods will be booted back normally but if Oranous agrees they have permission to use some of their powers. Like with the war games in canon Oranous gave the permission to use the mirrors to broadcast the fight.

Speaking of Kali...she and her adventurers should never meet Ysmir. I'm not sure who it's going to end bad on.

As for Alduin, it's still in the works. So I can't say for sure.


Neruz said:
Only due to gameplay and engine limitations; lore-wise a Tongue or Dovah can absolutely enchant things with the Thu'um.

In fact, used correctly, the Thu'um is capable of far greater feats than magicka; as demonstrated by the Dwemer.
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Speaking of how broken the Thu'um is it's fine if Ysmir makes portals right? Like a simple one at first with him having no idea where it leads. Found out the dragon word for it so I've been trying to figure out how to show him using it.
 
Tobi said:
I see, thanks for all the info. I kinda forgot about tonal magic. It's good to have a refresher and yeah the Thu'um is really diverse but unless your a Dragonborn or a dragon you're not that talented in it. Also indeed from the dragons POV they would see no reason to innovate much.
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Indeed, the Thu'um only comes naturally to dragons, anyone can learn to become a Tongue, but only the Dovah become tongues on their own: Anyone else can only learn to Shout if they are taught by another who already knows, be they Tongue or Dov.

(The Dragonborn is technically a dragon, just one with the body of a mortal. But the important part, the part that makes a Dov a Dov, is the soul. Souls are why dragons are special, because the souls of dragons are fragments of Akatosh, who is himself a fragment of Anu; the 'creator deity' of the setting. Being ultimately tiny pieces of the creator, Dovah souls are intrinsically better than everyone else's souls, which is why they (amongst other things) can only be claimed by another Dov; Molag Bal himself was unable to even scratch a dragon's soul.)

Tobi said:
Speaking of how broken the Thu'um is it's fine if Ysmir makes portals right? Like a simple one at first with him having no idea where it leads. Found out the dragon word for it so I've been trying to figure out how to show him using it.
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Absolutely, like I said; the Thu'um is literally reality warping and has no real limit to what can be done with it. The hard part is figuring out how to do what you want to do, as Tonal Magic functions best in triplets; groups of three. That's why all shouts and Dov names are three words (or tones) long, and why Dwemer Tonal Magic stuff typically shows up in groups of three.

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Tobi said:
Speaking of Kali...she and her adventurers should never meet Ysmir. I'm not sure who it's going to end bad on.
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I fail to see how 'and now Ysmir has a harem of busty amazons pining after his sculpted draconic abs' can be considered a 'bad end' for anyone involved.
 
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no daedra managed to steal the soul of a dragonborn not even in their own realms

Hermaus Mora-Miraak

There is the problem; Dragonborn doesnt have 2 souls of his own only 1 otherwise it would be 2 different beings in one body
Dragonborn's powers might activate later in their lives like how it happened in skyrim after killing first dragon but aka sees the future and plans no doubt the child are born as dragonborns
 
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kayra said:
no daedra managed to steal the soul of a dragonborn not even in their own realms

Hermaus Mora-Miraak
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Yep, Mora needed the Dragonborn to wreck Miraak because Mora couldn't get at Miraak by himself; hell just the fact that Miraak was able to live in Apocrypha for so long without going insane is purely down to him having the immutable soul of a Dov.

And when Mora finally ends Miraak; the Last Dragonborn is the one who actually gets his pile of dragon souls, including Miraak's own soul.


Only a Dov can claim the soul of a Dov. Full stop. No exceptions. Others like the Daedric Princes and Ideal Masters can claim the services of a Dov if the Dov agrees to willingly bind itself to such terms, but such service is ultimately temporary and once it ends the Dov's soul will be free once more. It may take the literal ending of a Kalpa for the service to be broken, but unlike almost everything else Dovah normally survive from one Kalpa to the next, so having to wait for Alduin to hit the reset button on reality just isn't a big deal to a Dov.
 
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Neruz said:
Indeed, the Thu'um only comes naturally to dragons, anyone can learn to become a Tongue, but only the Dovah become tongues on their own: Anyone else can only learn to Shout if they are taught by another who already knows, be they Tongue or Dov.

(The Dragonborn is technically a dragon, just one with the body of a mortal. But the important part, the part that makes a Dov a Dov, is the soul. Souls are why dragons are special, because the souls of dragons are fragments of Akatosh, who is himself a fragment of Anu; the 'creator deity' of the setting. Being ultimately tiny pieces of the creator, Dovah souls are intrinsically better than everyone else's souls, which is why they (amongst other things) can only be claimed by another Dov; Molag Bal himself was unable to even scratch a dragon's soul.)


Absolutely, like I said; the Thu'um is literally reality warping and has no real limit to what can be done with it. The hard part is figuring out how to do what you want to do, as Tonal Magic functions best in triplets; groups of three. That's why all shouts and Dov names are three words (or tones) long, and why Dwemer Tonal Magic stuff typically shows up in groups of three.
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Good, good I can use this as a plot point down the line.

As for how I plan to implement the portal shout in the story, I'll just have him shout it and see where that goes. Then have him practice, we do know there is one Dragonborn that was able to make portals. Then again he was the first and with the daedra of knowledge and madness. But as a counterpoint, Alduin was able to make a portal into Norse heaven and there was a portal in his temple.

Neruz said:
I fail to see how 'and now Ysmir has a harem of busty amazons pining after his sculpted draconic abs' can be considered a 'bad end' for anyone involved.
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It's less of a problem for him and the amazons and more of what Hestia would do in response.

kayra said:
no daedra managed to steal the soul of a dragonborn not even in their own realms

Hermaus Mora-Miraak
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Even with that ending, I'm not sure if old tentacle head managed to take Miraak's soul. Another example would be Durnehviir even when he's stuck in Soul Cairn, the ideal masters can't take his soul. He even said so.

Side note Miraak's name is the dragon word for portal.


Neruz said:
Only a Dov can claim the soul of a Dov. Full stop. No exceptions. Others like the Daedric Princes and Ideal Masters can claim the services of a Dov if the Dov agrees to willingly bind itself to such terms, but such service is ultimately temporary and once it ends the Dov's soul will be free once more. It may take the literal ending of a Kalpa for the service to be broken, but unlike almost everything else Dovah normally survive from one Kalpa to the next, so having to wait for Alduin to hit the reset button on reality just isn't a big deal to a Dov.
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I was not aware of that last part. Good to know.
 
Side note anything you guys want me to write about?

Can someone also give me information on Demeter and how she was blackmailed and used as a decoy? I need more info to double-check things.
 
Tobi said:
I was not aware of that last part. Good to know.
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Being fragments of Akatosh, the God of Time, Dovah are not even inconvenienced by timey-wimey shenanigans and consider the process of reality being restarted to be a mild annoyance at worst: While everything else is being unmade and starting again with a new and different reality, Dovah just fly sideways through un-time and pop into the new reality at the start of the Kalpa.

Incidentally, as each Kalpa is different, there is no guarantee that the Dovah will manifest as actual dragons in any given Kalpa. They usually do, but unlike their souls the flesh of a Dov is extremely mortal (hence why the Blades were able to 'kill' and bury them) and thus their flesh can and does change from Kalpa to Kalpa.
 
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kayra said:
Nope its been confirmed dragonborn took it by devs
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Good, good to know.

Neruz said:
Being fragments of Akatosh, the God of Time, Dovah are not even inconvenienced by timey-wimey shenanigans and consider the process of reality being restarted to be a mild inconvenience at worst: While everything else is being unmade and starting again with a new and different reality, Dovah just fly sideways through un-time and pop into the new reality at the start of the Kalpa.

Incidentally, as each Kalpa is different, there is no actual guarantee that the Dovah will manifest as actual dragons in any given Kalpa. They usually do, but unlike their souls the flesh of a Dov is extremely mortal (hence why the Blades were able to 'kill' and bury them) and thus their flesh can and does change from Kalpa to Kalpa.
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.....Ysmir might be tempted to make a new Kalpa just so he can get Dragon waifus.
 
Tobi said:
.....Ysmir might be tempted to make a new Kalpa just so he can get Dragon waifus.
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He'll have to wrestle Alduin for the title of World-Eater first, and Alduin guards that title (and the respective right to eat the souls in Sovngarde for power boosts that comes with it) jealously indeed.

Even after Alduin went rogue and required the Last Dragonborn to invert the prophecy and kill him instead of helping him end the Kalpa, Alduin didn't lose the title of World-Eater; he just got sent back to Akatosh for a very stern talking to.
 
İ want to drop in a lore part from elder scrolls online about the comment " Molag Bal himself was unable to even scratch a dragon's soul. "

Before dlc's that intruduced skeleton dragons ones without soul of one only animated thanks to necromancy and the new dlc's that intruduced real dragons

there was "Titans" daedric titans, you constantly fight them in elder scrolls online's main questline, in coldhabour, in anchors

their lore is there once was a dragon who was very powerfull that took the attention of god of you know what, he decided if aka had such powerfull beings in his disposal, his so called counterpart "himself" (while true one is sithis and molag is merely an arrogant fool) should have his own immortal creatures of such magnificence.

So he invited said dragon to coldhabour, gave him whatever he asked as he enjoyed the fool-er dragon's lets call joy, molag dragged him to a pool of those blue'ish waters you see in coldhabour, animus pools that gave life to daedric creatures even dremora, molag ripped his flesh remaining only immortal undecaying dragon bones, he manipulated them, gave them long arms, made them stronger at least psyhicly, then from the pools those piles of bones has given life, a daedric one. New creature had absolute strength but not the soul of a dragon. Wasnt a demigod nor a time spirit, it was merely a overgrown lizard only capable of breathing cold flames of coldhabour and nothing else, later stronger ones such as ash titan can also summon flame atronachs



Lore link : Daedric Titan (Online)
Picture HD :https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...ard_art.png/revision/latest?cb=20190504142528
 
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Yup; Daedric Titans are made from the mortal flesh and bones of a Dov, but they are ultimately a failed experiment. Molag Bal had been trying to corrupt the Dov's soul along with its body, but the soul proved completely and utterly immune to everything he tried, so in the end all he could do was shove the Animus of a Daedra (what Daedra have instead of souls) into the Dov's bones after its soul inevitably escaped his grasp, creating basically an undead demon golem in the shape of a dragon.

Powerful, yes, but lacking the quality of a true dragon.

kayra said:
İf seeing your divine father means going through that i shall stay on nirn forever :D
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Deciding that 'I shall stay on nirn forever' is basically how Alduin went rogue in the first place. :V
 
Neruz said:
Yup; Daedric Titans are made from the mortal flesh and bones of a Dov, but they are ultimately a failed experiment. Molag Bal had been trying to corrupt the Dov's soul along with its body, but the soul proved completely and utterly immune to everything he tried, so in the end all he could do was shove the Animus of a Daedra (what Daedra have instead of souls) into the Dov's bones after its soul inevitably escaped his grasp, creating basically an undead demon golem in the shape of a dragon.

Powerful, yes, but lacking the quality of a true dragon.


Deciding that 'I shall stay on nirn forever' is basically how Alduin went rogue in the first place. :V
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i shll do my daddys bidding on nirn forever spread his rightous lessons :D
 
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    • Neruz said:
    He'll have to wrestle Alduin for the title of World-Eater first, and Alduin guards that title (and the respective right to eat the souls in Sovngarde for power boosts that comes with it) jealously indeed.

    Even after Alduin went rogue and required the Last Dragonborn to invert the prophecy and kill him instead of helping him end the Kalpa, Alduin didn't lose the title of World-Eater; he just got sent back to Akatosh for a very stern talking to.
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    So in other words Ysmir needs to beat up his tsundere older sibling instead of killing. Then proceed to make the world eater do his job.


    "Bested by a mortal how..."

    On the throat of the world, the mighty Alduin. The world eater was laid low, chains bounded him to the mountain preventing him from even escaping.

    "This is the moment Dovahkiin, vanquish Alduin." Paarthurnax, cheered behind the hero. Finally, his long wait for the prophecy will end.

    "No, I didn't' come here to slay I came to conquer."

    Walking up to the world eater, Ysmir grabbed it's head and yelled.

    "GOL HAH DOV!!"

    The eldest dragon struggled against the power of the shout but eventually, it lost the battle of wills. The dragon rend shout still in effect, the period of weakness was all that was needed.

    "Dovahkiin, what are you doing."

    "I want a waifu dragon. I need Alduin to work for me"

    Both dragons were very confused by that statement. What in the name of Akatosh was a waifu.
     
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    • Tobi said:
    So in other words Ysmir needs to beat up his tsundere older sibling instead of killing. Then proceed to make the world eater do his job.

    "Bested by a mortal how..."

    On the throat of the world, the mighty Alduin. The world eater was laid low, chains bounded him to the mountain preventing him from even escaping.

    "This is the moment Dovahkiin, vanquish Alduin." Paarthurnax, cheered behind the hero. Finally, his long wait for the prophecy will end.

    "No, I didn't' come here to slay I came to conquer."

    Walking up to the world eater, Ysmir grabbed it's head and yelled.

    "GOL HAH DOV!!"

    The eldest dragon struggled against the power of the shout but eventually, it lost the battle of wills. The dragon rend shout still in effect, the period of weakness was all that was needed.

    "Dovahkiin, what are you doing."

    "I want a waifu dragon. I need Alduin to work for me"
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    Alduin: "Why do I keep using that stupid meteor storm shout when all it does is knock me out of the sky!?"
     
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    Alduin: "Why do I keep using that stupid meteor storm shout when all it does is knock me out of the sky!?"
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    "Because your a tsundere onne san, and they are self-destructive."

    "Why do I feel like your mocking me."

    "I would never insult my elder sibling. Fight yes, but insults are a low blow."

    "Then why is that goddess of your laughing every time you use that infernal word."
     
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