Downwind the Mountain: An Amegakure Quest (Naruto)

Except Sand. Everybody laugh at Sand, they needed a Konoha genin to give their superweapon therapy for it to be functional.
I'm pretty sure the manga hints thru the one tailed bijuu's memories at the fact that the first jinchuriki in sand was simply not trusted, imprisoned until his death, and then placed into a teapot at the end of that jinchuriki's life. Hard to say whether it was distrust of the konoha or whatever, but until "not actually qualified to be a kage" 4th Kazekage, no one in sand seems to have bothered to attempt to make a weapon out of jinchuriki, so gara could actually be said to be a first generation of weaponized jinchuriki by the village hidden in the sand.
 
Cool. So is the scale you are expanding it on making it double in size or what? Can't really make it too large, lest you run the risk of breaking some other thing down the line. Maybe make Wind be the size of Austrlia or something (about 3/4 size of china).
 
(Another thing you notice, looking at the map: Konoha's on some geographic destiny bullshit. Sea access to three oceans, geography not defined by deserts or mountains or high latitudes. Mist's the only one half as well positioned but it's a bit busy genociding itself.)
I've long felt that the key to Konoha's strength is economic flexibility.

Like, all the other Hidden Villages are in inhospitable areas where they probably don't have good food production (mountains, deserts, a canyon,) and out of the way enough that there aren't a lot of trade routes.

Konoha has forests, where they can hunt and scavenge for all kinds of foods and medicinal herbs, and it's in the middle of a lot of trade routes.

Chances are this was 100% deliberate, because Hashirama and Madara were founding the first Hidden Village so they got to choose the best possible location for it, while I bet a bunch of other villages that formed in response didn't realize there was more to the location than the defensibility until a bit too late.

That's why Konoha has been able to bounce back repeatedly from what ought to be devastating damage like the Kyuubi attack, the Sound Invasion, etc. They have a strong trade and economic grounding, and the number of trade routes means that even if they aren't directly escorting trade caravans, then the Fire nobility still have good reason to promote the flow of goods by hiring Konoha for bandit-clearing missions.

Notably missing from the canonical map is any scale. The fan-made map makes the countries, honestly, fairly small - Fire Country would be smaller than the primary island of Japan and the combined land area of every country of note would be less than half of China. This is actually coherent with some things we see. The most notable scale-granter we have are the Sasuke and Gaara Retrieval Arcs. The former tells us a fairly mediocre genin (sorry Naruto) can reach, at a conservative estimate, the midway point between Konoha and the Land of Sound in roughly a day of travel on foot. The latter tells us a group being held up by a non-combat chunin (sorry Sakura) can get a message from Sand and then travel the same distance on foot in less than three days. (We don't have travel times for the Wave Arc, but Inari manages to get to Konoha Pretty Quick after Pain flattens it so that's another point in this interpretations favour.) This is internally consistent in the broadest sense. It even gels with some other things: the Konoha Crush, the Demon Brothers just Vibing outside Konoha's gates, Lightning's kidnapping attempts, how every war turns into a free-for-all with people fighting people they don't even come close to bordering, the frankly tiny army mustered for the literal End Of The World and so on.
Also remember that every chuunin ninja can basically maintain an olympic sprinting speed (23 miles an hour) or higher over broken ground without (I assume, thanks to soldier pills,) without needing to break for meals or sleep, so they can do it 24 hours straight.

In the Sasuke retrieval arc they're portrayed as hopping multiple meters between tree branches without notable effort and continuing that pace for hours at a time.

In short, and genin or chuunin with a solid supply of soldier pills can potentially cover (23mph*23hours=) 400-500 miles per day... but it also depends on knowing where they're going and not being intercepted.

In the Sasuke Retrieval arc they had a trail because they were chasing the Sound Four and heading through (mostly known) Land of Fire territory toward the Land of Rice Fields. In the Gaara retrieval arc they presumably either knew where to go to find Suna or were able to flag down Sand ninja and display papers to ask for directions along the way.

Minato and Jiraiya showing up at Iwagakure within a week would require them to know where Iwagakure was and to get there while getting around any detection jutsu and patrol webs... at which point they'd be in Iwagakure and have the Tsuchikage gunning for them personally while backed up by his entire village full of ninja who know the territory and who only need one or two lucky hits.

People in-universe can probably figure out where Konoha is due to how central its location is, but getting there would either require you to go through the official (watched) roads with check points, so there'd be no sneaking in an army, or it would require someone (presumably a native like Orochimaru) skilled in forest navigation to get you through all the giant leeches, poisonous plants, etc., all the while you need to worry about tipping off a passing sensor/Hyuuga/Aburame/Inuzuka who will put the village on high alert faster than you can get there.

None of this is me intending to argue with you, I'm just also pointing out that each of the major countries can be the size of Portugal or Ireland and it will still fit the general theme in my opinion.


EDIT: Remember that while ninja can cover vast distance, the majority of the population aren't ninja, so having really big countries will make it difficult to deliver tax money, keep tabs on distant nobility, travel long distances for civilians... etc. Though a lot of that may be good reasons to hire ninja for many people.
 
Last edited:
Cool. So is the scale you are expanding it on making it double in size or what? Can't really make it too large, lest you run the risk of breaking some other thing down the line. Maybe make Wind be the size of Austrlia or something (about 3/4 size of china).

I don't have and wouldn't give the hard numbers, honestly. Partly because ninja break so many goddamn rules about military supply and movement that trying to pin down exactly how big things should be is pure fantasy. They're at least as fast as cavalry on clear roads, not that much slower on any terrain less obstructive than a sheer cliff, and can carry <unspecified amount of> supplies in magic scrolls. Their army and unit sizes are small and they're superhumanly strong and enduring, so even without magic scrolls they can carry a lot of supplies without pack animals or river or rail and forage nearly anywhere, at any time. They don't use cannon or anything else heavier than what an individual can carry. Quite frankly the biggest issue they have on campaign might be getting lost because they went off-road to avoid checkpoints.

It's bigger enough that campaigns have manoeuvre, no enemy army has so much as seen Konoha's walls and getting places takes a while. But none of the individual countries are China-sized. Any more detail than vague travel times would be committing myself to shit I can't back up.

I've long felt that the key to Konoha's strength is economic flexibility.

Like, all the other Hidden Villages are in inhospitable areas where they probably don't have good food production (mountains, deserts, a canyon,) and out of the way enough that there aren't a lot of trade routes.

Konoha has forests, where they can hunt and scavenge for all kinds of foods and medicinal herbs, and it's in the middle of a lot of trade routes.

Chances are this was 100% deliberate, because Hashirama and Madara were founding the first Hidden Village so they got to choose the best possible location for it, while I bet a bunch of other villages that formed in response didn't realize there was more to the location than the defensibility until a bit too late.

That's why Konoha has been able to bounce back repeatedly from what ought to be devastating damage like the Kyuubi attack, the Sound Invasion, etc. They have a strong trade and economic grounding, and the number of trade routes means that even if they aren't directly escorting trade caravans, then the Fire nobility still have good reason to promote the flow of goods by hiring Konoha for bandit-clearing missions.

I think the geographic location of Konoha was, to an extent, luck - the Uchiha and Senju presumably didn't cross the continent looking for a place to settle down, they went nearby. On the other hand, I do agree that while every other hidden village chose to optimize for defense (mountains, desert, mountains-), Hashirama was an idealist who wanted to make a place people would like to live in. Despite the best efforts of Tobirama and Danzo, that remains Konoha's key advantage. Hashirama doesn't get enough respect in the fandom, honestly, everyone prefers the brother who is the precursor for Danzo, Orochimaru and Minato, for some reason.

Mist almost managed it, because water is actually a good barrier against shinobi while still allowing economic activity, but uh. It wasn't founded and run by idealists and so descended into authoritarian genocide. Woops.

Also remember that every chuunin ninja can basically maintain an olympic sprinting speed (23 miles an hour) or higher over broken ground without (I assume, thanks to soldier pills,) without needing to break for meals or sleep, so they can do it 24 hours straight.

In the Sasuke retrieval arc they're portrayed as hopping multiple meters between tree branches without notable effort and continuing that pace for hours at a time.

In short, and genin or chuunin with a solid supply of soldier pills can potentially cover (23mph*23hours=) 400-500 miles per day... but it also depends on knowing where they're going and not being intercepted.

In the Sasuke Retrieval arc they had a trail because they were chasing the Sound Four and heading through (mostly known) Land of Fire territory toward the Land of Rice Fields. In the Gaara retrieval arc they presumably either knew where to go to find Suna or were able to flag down Sand ninja and display papers to ask for directions along the way.

Minato and Jiraiya showing up at Iwagakure within a week would require them to know where Iwagakure was and to get there while getting around any detection jutsu and patrol webs... at which point they'd be in Iwagakure and have the Tsuchikage gunning for them personally while backed up by his entire village full of ninja who know the territory and who only need one or two lucky hits.

People can probably figure out where Konoha is due to how central its location is, but getting there would either require you to go through the official (watched) roads with check points, so there'd be no sneaking in an army, or it would require someone (presumably a native like Orochimaru) skilled in forest navigation to get you through all the giant leeches, poisonous plants, etc., all the while you need to worry about tipping off a passing sensor/Hyuuga/Aburame/Inuzuka who will put the village on high alert faster than you can get there.

None of this is me intending to argue with you, I'm just also pointing out that each of the major countries can be the size of Portugal or Ireland and it will still fit the general theme in my opinion.

It's been a few decades, I think people know which roads lead to Konoha. Trade happens somehow, people need to eat. Granted those roads have checkpoints, and getting lost is a risk, so your point stands. In canon the patrol webs and detection jutsu are pretty sad - see, the Demon Brothers just vibing by Konoha's gates, Kushina's kidnapping etc. - but I would agree that during war time you're dealing with the potential that some cave you didn't notice has a sensor and that bird is calling for an intercept.

I am toning down shinobi endurance, though. They're better than cavalry on strategic scales, but not as wildly better as the tree-hopping would suggest, at least on average. Jonin are outliers by definition, but even then I don't want them crossing the Land of Fire in a few days, and I don't want to make it bigger than China. The armies are too small already as it stands.
 
Last edited:
I am toning down shinobi endurance, though. They're better than cavalry on strategic scales, but not as wildly better as the tree-hopping would suggest, at least on average. Jonin are outliers by definition, but even then I don't want them crossing the Land of Fire in a few days, and I don't want to make it bigger than China. The armies are too small already as it stands.
Not to put hard numbers on it, but the whole continent being roughly the size of Europe makes the most sense I think (using a different fan-made map that also shows what lies to the east). Fire being roughly the size of Ukraine and Lighting around the size of Germany or Norway (but with longer travel times because of the terrain, Wind and Earth would be a lot bigger, but not crazy huge, and Water is Water.
 
Transportation 2
[x] The best friend.

Takuto is far from thrilled to serve as your guide for the hunting paths, but what could he do? As the younger Sato's best friend, he'd certainly accompanied the man on many a hunt and expedition. He is, quite simply, the best option.

"So how long did you know him?" you ask.

"Uh. About… six years? I think," he stutters. Under your boots the path slowly vanishes as you leave the well-traveled areas. "After the war, you know…"

He is also terrified out of his wits by you, specifically. The testimony of others had painted the picture of a somewhat distant, but confident and capable young man. You haven't seen it, though he is navigating the forest with enviable grace for a civilian. And what you picked up from your pseudo-genjutsu barely felt human at all, it was so entirely frightened.

"How did you find settling in here?"

"Ah, a bit rough, to start," he admits. "Didn't really know anybody or… how things were done. But I was a good hunter. And Sato-" He cut himself off.

"Mmm," you hum agreeably, scanning the forest for human traces. Given how many weeks it's been, you're not expecting much. "I assume you've been looking for him."

"Of course!" he replies, before cringing away again. "Of course I have."

You're beginning to think whatever happened to the younger Sato, Takuto wasn't involved. At least not maliciously so - you can't rule out some youthful challenge or argument gone wrong. Unfortunate: it would've been very convenient to have a murderer in your grasp, far from the village. You'll take a gentler tack, then.

"Is there any place you haven't checked? We might start there."

The young man flinches. "N-no. Not that I can think of, and nearby."

You blink languidly. That seems like a lie. Not one you can simply call out, but maybe… you draw your genin's attention with a quick sequence of hand-signs - repeating them when they seem confused - and then focus your attention on a particularly tricky sort of compulsion genjutsu. The hand seals come slowly as you shape your spiritual chakra. The urge to leap off a cliff, the reckless desire to confront an enemy, the impulse that makes a secret-keeper hint at what they know. You take these within yourself, and then share them with Takuto.

Compulsion Technique: Call Of The Void.

Now to distract his conscious mind. "It's worth keeping in mind the possibility of foul play," you observe. "A body might be hidden away from the victim's usual paths."

Takuto nods jerkily, before looking at you. "You think he was murdered!"

"I'm open to all possibilities," you correct, letting Takuto's feet guide your party wherever it is he doesn't want to go. "I'll admit to being a bit curious about your priest, and his fiancee."

He blinks at you with wide, luminous eyes. A very pretty man, you observe distantly. "They couldn't." He pauses. "Could they…?"

"Those closest to the victim are under suspicion for good reason, and they were somewhat suspicious. I don't suppose there's anything he said to you, about them?"

The young man gulped. "Well, he and his fiancee weren't exactly… close? Just, different people, I suppose. He complained about her a lot - I, ah. Tried to avoid the topic?"

"Did they not get on?" you ask.

He shrugged helplessly. "She seemed… nice? I don't know her very well." A frown. "Her father is trying to push for an arrangement with uh. Me, now. If Mr. Sato would adopt me."

"I suppose that would be reason to get to know her better," you remark, as neutrally as you can manage. You'd not heard of any particular pre-marital troubles, but then, you wouldn't. That was the sort of skeleton people kept very much buried in the closet. "And the priest?"

"He's intense," Takuto remarks, voice growing more confident as he's lost in recollection. "He used to be a girl, or something like that? Before I arrived here. They're hot and cold with each other - arguing some days, close as could be the next."

"Involved?"

He actually laughs. "He's so serious about his duties! That's what they argued about, mostly. Sacred grounds, prospecting-" Takuto stops dead. Your genjutsu snaps.

You take one step forward so you can see his face properly. It's slack and pale. His nose is twitching. A couple quick, well drilled hand signs tell your genin to get ready.

"Is something the matter?" you ask innocently.

His wide eyes turn to you. "We shouldn't be here."

Your genin are circling around him from behind. "Why not?"

"It's-" His nose twitches. "We really shouldn't be here. It's not safe."

On a suspicion, you channel chakra to your nose. It's faint, but… there's a distinct smell of something sweet and rotting. It stings your nose slightly, like the wind that carries it is chilly. "If it's not safe, then surely we should investigate it," you point out. "If anything happened, it most likely happened where it's unsafe?"

"No, no, he wouldn't have- he wouldn't be that stupid-" Takuto freezes, and you see the moment when you tick over from dangerous ally to threat. "You-"

You give the signal. Takashi goes for Takuto's legs, while Yume and Akira each take an arm. It works, for the first few seconds - the man goes to the floor, and the genin are strong enough to overpower a civilian relatively safely, three on one. Idly, you note the forest floor is soft and leaf-covered. Interesting, given the season. Something to do with the chill in the air?

Then Takuto lets out a hiss which registers as absolutely not human, and Yuma goes stumbling back with a cut on his cheek.

It's the work of an instant to throw yourself into a body flicker that separates the surprisingly difficult target from your genin and pins it against a tree. It's only another instant to recognize what's changed, and adjust the incapacitating current you were planning on using to something less likely to be accidentally lethal. You're left with three shocked genin, one minor injury, and an oversized feline weakly struggling in your arms.

Well, you reflect, that would explain the odd feedback on your genjutsu.

~

You never trained your genin to tie a quadruped for interrogation. In your defense, the only way you know how to tie any animal is a dead one, for later consumption. It's not something that comes up very often. So you're reduced to holding the now much more frightened Takuto in your arms and relying on the imminent threat of violence to keep them in line.

"So, uh, is he like a summon?" Takashi asks, as though the subject of his question isn't right there.

"Something like that," you temporize, before squeezing the feline - a particularly large example of a bobcat, if you know your local fauna correctly - gently. "So, Mr. Takuto. You've been hiding some things!"

"Please don't kill me," the cat whimpers in what is unmistakably Takuto's voice. Yuma boggles, and even the other two are clearly unsettled. You don't see this sort of thing in Amegakure, outside the rare summoning contract.

"I'd rather not," you agree cheerfully. This is a much more interesting mission than you thought you'd signed up for. You're in a good mood. "I'm pretty sure you didn't kill Sato. I am less sure you haven't hidden information relevant to an Amegakure mission and a potentially criminal investigation. This is only punishable by death in cases where the mission is considered highly critical."

"Oh."

"Also, Yuma, apply some disinfectant to that cut immediately. You don't want cat-scratch fever."

The oddly mundane order shocks your genin into motion.

"That's not to say the lesser punishments can't be pretty painful," you tell him as Yuma rustles through his supplies. It's very odd, threatening someone who's nearly on your lap. "So why don't we go over anything you might have left out, and pretend this never happened." The bobcat nods as furiously as he can in the hold you've got him in. "So. What's dangerous here?"

"It's… the tiger," he says. "This is her territory."

"And what does the tiger have to do with everything?"

"I-" Takuto makes an odd keening sound, which sets your teeth on edge. "This used to be my territory. Our territory- me and my sister. She-"

"I think I get the picture," you cut him off. Interrogation or not, some wounds don't need to be prodded. You never would have made it as a torturer. "And acting as a human?"

He said nothing.

"Mr. Takuto."

"...revenge," he whispers, paws kneading at the leafy ground. "I… saw what humans did. Even a few ninja. I thought, if I could get someone interested in… building something. Or mining, or- I don't know…"

"That ninja might be called in to deal with your tiger," you finish. Not a bad plan.

"Well, to start I just wanted a hunter. But Sato taught me it wouldn't work," he admits.

"He knew?" you ask, surprised. Not quite the standard fox-wife tale.

"More or less. I don't think he'd be stupid enough to go after her himself, but, if he pushed her territory a bit, or got lost. If she somehow knew-" He shivers in your arms.

"Well," you answer. "If a tiger has been eating people, then ninja might be called in."

"I didn't want him to die for it!" He yowls. "I don't-"

"Sh sh sh, it's fine." You resist the urge to pet him. That would be a bit forward. "You've been very helpful Mr. Takuto." You carefully unwind your arms, and the bobcat darts what he probably thinks is a safe distance away. "So I'm going to offer you a deal. We go meet this tiger, and see if she knows anything. And if she has killed your friend, then I'll deal with her."

"It's not safe," he insists, slipping back into his human skin. Now that you know, you can see some of the similarities - particularly in the eyes. Luminous and ever so slightly slit. No wonder he's a good hunter.

"I'm a jonin," you reply. "Tigers aren't safe from me."

~

The scent of rot and ice serves as a simple guide for where the tiger has made her den. Something about the combination of smells tickles something at the back of your mind, but you can't quite place it. The flowers too - they're becoming more and more common as you approach your destination, a striking mix of white and red and black.

"Uh, ma'am?" Akira asks, when the flowers become too conspicuous to ignore. "What sort of flowers are these?"

"I don't know," you admit. "But they seem somewhat chakra-active, so I'd avoid touching them."

Your genin and Takuto crowd closer to you after that. Eventually you reach the dark entrance of a cave, so festooned with flowers that even you'd be hard pressed to make it inside without touching the strange plants. The smell of cold rot is thick on the air, and you finally place it.

"Naraka," you mutter for the other's benefit. "These are the signs of one of the Yin hells."

They all tense. "That seems… bad, ma'am," Akira says. "What does it mean?"

"It means this isn't just a tiger," you reply grimly. "It's reached beyond the animal realm, and we need to be respectful."

Takuto looks at you sharply, fear blending with indignation on his features. "What happened to 'dealing with her'?"

"Still possible," you reassure him. It might even be true - not every earthly god is particularly powerful. "But that's only if she did kill Sato. Now everyone stay quiet."

You clear your throat, and project your voice into the cave. "Jonin Kitagawa Kohaku comes to the lord of the mountain, on behalf of Rain, to rectify an injustice committed in her territory!"

There's no response for a long moment.

"The lord of this mountain hears your petition." The voice is multilayered. A core of bass rumbling that raises the hair of your arms, but around it is wrapped dozens, if not hundreds of other tones. Beside you, Takuto flinches. "But to gain a boon, something must be offered."

"An offense has been committed against heaven," you retort. "Its resolution is not a boon."

"The offense is not mine," the voice rejoins, closer now. "And a tiger is paid respect to by heaven and hell."

The mountain god emerges from the shadows piecemeal. Pale orange fur with stripes blacker than pitch. One paw, then another, and another, then another pair. Three jaws fit to tear you in half work in syncopated time, festooned with roots and those same white flowers. And above all, the smell of ice and rot, and nine glacier blue eyes.

Your genin recoil, and you hold up a fist to get them to freeze. You grab Takuto by his collar before he can flee.

"This one will accept an offering of blood, flesh or observance," the multilayered voice declares. "Name your boon."

It moves slowly and powerfully. Naraka is not a realm of action and violence. Could you beat it? Maybe.

You'd really rather not try.

"The location of a young man, disappeared a month ago, or of his corpse," you reply. "Is this a boon you can grant?"

"It is," the tiger purrs. "If you can pay the price."

"What prices would you accept?"

A pair of blue eyes flick to Takuto. "For the flesh price, give me the little hunter." Two sets of bared teeth. "His sister misses him."

"You-" Takuto hisses, eyes slitting, before you sharply yank him back.

"My apologies, great lord," you say. "This hunter is not aware of the specifics of your blessing. This one supposes you speak… somewhat literally."

"Those I consume exist within me. Forever."

Fantastic. You jerk Takuto's collar again, just in case. "What of the blood price?"

"For blood, I would have you open a vein over my garden." One of the tiger's massive heads gestures at the ubiquitous white-black-red flowers. "Your spirit blazes, shinobi," she continues, tone appreciative. "Even a fraction of your power and knowledge would be worthy of a boon."

That's both flattering and would break every vow of secrecy you've ever taken, most likely. You also don't really want to give a creature like this a piece of yourself. Forever, as it so generously explained just moments prior.

"And observance?"

"Mmmm." You feel that rumble in your bones. "The old salamander has grown powerful from the worship of your kind. Bring the leaders of the little hunter's den here. They can bleed in your place, and seal a pact."

"Hanzo?" Yuma's face twists in confusion. You start making the sign for 'shut all the way up' but it's too late. "He wasn't worshipped."

The tiger's bulk pauses. "Was?" she purrs. "How interesting."

You say nothing, and think furiously about how to pound negotiating tactics into the heads of genin. You really should have covered this.

"Clever shinobi," the mountain god says, slinking slightly forward. Not quite enough to threaten, but enough to put you all on edge. "But if Ibuse is no longer at the right hand of power- who is?" Nine eyes grow half-lidded, satisfied with whatever she sees. "Here is one last price: bring your leader, whoever they are, to bargain, and make pacts of a different kind."

"For as little a thing as a body?" you reply after a moment.

"An invitation is a little thing, is it not?"

"I could not deliver one to my leader so quickly," you say.

"I can be patient, shinobi. If, by the turning of the seasons, no answer is forthcoming, I will take my own price." Innumerable bared teeth. "With interest."

~

[ ] Takuto's flesh, to settle the tiger's hunger.

In many ways, the simplest option. The bobcat isn't human - his rights, such as they are, are curtailed. One life for all the complications of the other options. If you're willing to make that trade. You monster.

[ ] Your blood, to settle the tiger's curiosity.

Easy - but arguably the least legal of all the options. You are, in effect, telling an unaffiliated individual every secret you might have. A mountain god probably isn't going to sell that information on, but who knows what it might do with it.

[ ] The village's observance, to serve the tiger's pride.

This… really isn't your call to make. You could frame it as necessary to get Sato's body back, and his father would pay any price for that, but what about the rest of the village? They could be brought around, but not necessarily happily.

[ ] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

Hahaha. Oh god. In principle, this is the easiest price of all - just an invitation and a response. Konan might even be interested. But this is dangerously close to trading favors with the Shikigami, and it's absolutely not your call to make.

[ ] Pay no price.

You're contracted to try and find a person. Bargaining with a hell-tiger is beyond what a C-Rank mission ever entails.
 
Last edited:
This is hilariously high stakes for this mission.

I'm leaning towards going to Konan, because it might mean adding a summoning contract to Rain. It'd definitely be overstepping our authority though, and will radicalize our position in the village.

Screw it. Maybe we'd get doubly lucky.

[x] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

Maybe Konan's new position makes bold moves more permissible.
 
Last edited:
Haha, what the fuck.

[X] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

Konan is either going to be very pissed, or very amused, and I'm not sure which is worse.
 
This is hilariously high stakes for this mission.
Fucking off is always an option. You don't have to bargain with the mountain god - this is a C-rank, and it's a completely optional side-quest, so to speak. Failing the mission won't do much besides make one old man very sad. Unfortunately Kohaku is both curious and figured this was, at most, a chakra-capable tiger. (A perfectly normal thing to run into up in the mountains, of course.)

You wouldn't even have run into the tiger if you'd picked any of the other people to take along. I guess I underestimated the appeal of 'what is up with this dude?'.

Haha, what the fuck.
i told you about mountain gods bro, this place is lousy with them
 
Last edited:
[X] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

An easy choice really as this mission has gone way past a rank C, so we'd need to inform our superiors regardless and a decision made about what to do about it. Whether it's in Rains interest to negotiate with it and gain a new summon, or eliminate it which we will need a stronger team.
 
[] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

Konan might actually be interested, although she's also likely to be annoyed at volunteering her.

Still, further cements Kohaku as one of her most interesting subordinates.
 
Last edited:
I will point out though, guys, that bringing Konan to the tiger is specifically going to help the tiger's ambition. Which feels like it's going to have far more long term consequences than the blood or observance packs. Especially since the tiger seems to want to gain power via worship.
 
Wow, credit for the fascinating and novel chapter @NonSequtur .

Did not see any of the plot developments-twists introduced coming but I am pleasantly surprised and enjoying this a lot. The Tiger of the Mountain is creepy in an effective way, not overtop but the way a experienced Jonin gets suddenly very tense and little twists of dialogue-description perfectly combine to convey 'threat' and got my attention.

I might change my vote if the right argument is made but I think I'll go with.

[X] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.

Narratively what's changed with Konan has been a recurring element of this story, the mystery of her transition from Akatsuki member to Rain's new leader who ascended to that position over the bodies of the old guard and her apparently enhanced jutsu is one aspect. Kohaku whether she intended to or not has ended up seen as a bloodthirsty convert to the cause of Rain's New Shadow and I'm really curious about seeing where progressing down Konan's path - getting further involved with her would go.

Given the implications of the Tiger's powers, gaining knowledge and power through blood-flesh given or in the case of Takuto's sister taken, and the fact the Tiger as it is now is powerful enough a Jonin isn't confident on the outcome of a direct fight with the pointed implication it can get stronger-more powerful…….. Yeah I think Konan could get some useful results out a meeting.

It's the risky option true but one where I am interested in exploring the outcome.
 
Last edited:
[X] Rain's Shadow, to serve the tiger's ambition.
I will point out though, guys, that bringing Konan to the tiger is specifically going to help the tiger's ambition. Which feels like it's going to have far more long term consequences than the blood or observance packs. Especially since the tiger seems to want to gain power via worship.
The tiger's more likely to be utterly destroyed than to gain anything over Konan.
 
The tiger's more likely to be utterly destroyed than to gain anything over Konan.
I wasn't worried about Konan, I'm more concerned about how the Tiger's potential pact with Konan might affect Amegakure. Also, I know Kohaku is incredibly biased, but the disconnect between her and Konan when they first interacted has me a bit worried about Konan's social skills.

Mind you, I'm not against the option, I definitely think it's the most interesting of the bunch. But I do think that choosing this option carries it's own risks, and I want people to at least consider that.
 
Last edited:
[X] Pay no price.

Going against the grain here but we absolutely don't need to make any deals. We still have two people to investigate and if Konan wants to deal with the hell tiger she can if we just mention it exists in our mission report. So there is zero benefits to making a deal and a great many possible problems. One, do we really want to teach our students that it is okay to make deals with hell beasts on a c rank job? Its a weird look for a jounin. Two, what if Konan doesn't want to talk to the tiger? Tiger gets angry, Konan gets angry and we're stuck with the bill.
 
Alright, honestly yeah. Probably shouldn't be making any deals at all.

[X] Pay no price.
 
[X] Pay no price.

You're contracted to try and find a person. Bargaining with a hell-tiger is beyond what a C-Rank mission ever entails.


Pay no price yet.

If you have time for the turning of the seasons, then you have time to interrogate the father and the other two candidates before you head back to Rain to report this finding to your superiors.

No matter what, you're going to need to tell Konan that you encountered a mountain kami who wants to make some deal with Rain ninja for power or influence (or possibly take advantage of them). You do not have the authority to decide what happens or even to not relay the message, but you shouldn't commit to making any deal by delivering the invitation until you've actually got some authority to make a deal.

We don't know if the tiger ate or killed the missing guy, so it's entirely possible that mundane investigation could still turn up the body in question, in which case the MC will feel very foolish about making a deal with the tiger that wasn't necessary.
 
Back
Top