Divergent Codex: The Revised History of the First Contact War (Mass Effect)

We're fighting Batarians. We will have our pops be enslaved even if we picked the mil base, the vote on the ruins is essentially a vote on how many pops you want enslaved. Doom saying would be if I said we'll be completely subjugated as a species
it littary says in the options from the first vote that was chosen that Humanity is made up of Several independent interstellar nations this is not the SA from Cannon and with Multiple Nations of Humans there is going to competition to get better so tech would advance faster than in Cannon anyway. Also with Several Nations the Military forces of Humanity will be way larger than in Cannon
 
it littary says in the options from the first vote that was chosen that Humanity is made up of Several independent interstellar nations this is not the SA from Cannon and with Multiple Nations of Humans there is going to competition to get better so tech would advance faster than in Cannon anyway. Also with Several Nations the Military forces of Humanity will be way larger than in Cannon
Yet none of that matters if we are under teched on the tech tree which has been brought up before.
 
We are still going to depend on Element Zero for FTL barriers and so on, but our tech will be much less advanced...

Yeah, no argument here, but advanced technology and tools aren't a silver bullet. Looking at Vietnam, despite the US military's major advantage in technology, they got clowned on by the Viet Cong. Through the use of guerrilla warfare, digging tunnels, hiding in the thick jungle, and creating primitive traps.

And in case you say "But, the mass effect sensors can see past planetary crust and count the freckles on your face." in the current world, despite major advances in radar tech, drug smugglers are digging tunnels under the USA border and these exist:

View: https://youtu.be/BR18qhnGEpM
 
You really don't understand what interesting means huh.

Humanity clowning over the Batarians isn't interesting, at all.

There are a million ME fics that do that, I'd like to see something different for once.

I actually think a story in which humanity is fully enslaved by the Batarians to be a fairly interesting scenario.

They mentioned NASApunk and humanity developing its own vibe outside of Eezo, not "we will build a whole new and better mode of doing things"

Also most of the anti-crater people are being extremely rude right now.

Ok I admit I may have gotten a bit much here and there and for that, I do apologize, but I have been seeing people throughout this quest pick the options without fail that will screw over humanity in significant ways. I am not opposed to picking the fun options but then I start seeing some options that will blatantly handicap humanity in a way that will not make the quest fun in my eyes.

I personally would have picked a one hundred year start and later I would have picked a small outpost but didn't when I saw people picking the really bad starting options and jumped my voting on a more favorable contender. It isn't as though we'll be beating the batarians completely, humanity is still divided into different interstellar polities and I find it really interesting when humanity comes together to put our differences aside to fight a bigger threat.
 
Did you not see what I said earlier about how the Batarians can't move their entiere military at us and with several nations they can't just send a small amount to occupy or raid Humanity
You mean the whole pirate navy they use for their stuff? Which isn't their official military but they always make use of?

Yeah, no argument here, but advanced technology and tools aren't a silver bullet. Looking at Vietnam, despite the US military's major advantage in technology, they got clowned on by the Viet Cong.
Do you mean something that has way more context then that and has already been proved that isn't why in this thread?
 
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You mean the whole pirate navy they use for their stuff? Which isn't their official military but they always make use of?
they don't have infinite resources and their pirate navy will be worse than standard military vessels and be less disciplined in general so I doubt they could beat an entire species Military especially one made up of Several Nations
 
they don't have infinite resources and their pirate navy will be worse than standard military vessels and be less disciplined in general so I doubt they could beat an entire species Military especially one made up of Several Nations
So a whole group whose job is to get slaves will be bad at its job? I am sorry if I find that outlandish.
 
Yeah, no argument here, but advanced technology and tools aren't a silver bullet. Looking at Vietnam, despite the US military's major advantage in technology, they got clowned on by the Viet Cong. Through the use of guerrilla warfare, digging tunnels, hiding in the thick jungle, and creating primitive traps.
They also had MASSIVE help from China and the Soviet Union who gave them weapons, equipment, and resources that put both USA and the Vietcong close enough to peer level that with their guerrilla tactic they could balance things.

If the Vietcong had had WW1 rifles and tanks there is no way they could have hold the upper hand against the USA
And in case you say "But, the mass effect sensors can see past planetary crust and count the freckles on your face." in the current world, despite major advances in radar tech, drug smugglers are digging tunnels under the USA border and these exist:
And how is this relevant? The reason these things work is because it is too expensive to monitor every inch of land and ocean and because with drugs if one shipment arrives at its destination the drug dealers gain enough to pay for 50 failed shipments...
 
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To add my own two cents to the side of "Promethean big hole" the main reason EZ tech exists is because the reapers (you know, the masters of EZ tech) made it so all galactic civilization could go down one path. Thus easier to face.

I am pretty sure the Reaper trap is the Mass Relay System, not Eezo itself, which is the thing that lets you break the laws of physics to go FTL in the first place. The Relays let civilizations colonize lots of convenient habitable worlds that are thousands of light years apart with very little cost to the people using them, unaware that if a malicious outside force with access to the shutdown codes locked them out of the Relays, all those convenient colonized worlds are now isolated by thousands of light years when without the Relays, ships can go at best 15 light years a day, while the Reapers can still use the Relays at their leisure and Mass their forces for every assault. Even going off the grid doesn't help because the Reapers have better conventional FTL so can more easily catch up, and they know the Relay system so they probably could take a shortcut using unmapped Relays to hunt down those that tried to stay off the Relays.

Also, the Reapers have had billions of years and thousands of Cycles. They have probably seen people diverge from commonplace Eezo tech plenty of times. I doubt humanity will come up with some unique ability when operating within the confines of a non-crossover universe where the laws of physics and the tech used to bypass them are not beholden to the internal logic of the setting.

Booking it to intergalactic space is probably the only way to survive a Reaper invasion.
 
They also had MASSIVE help from China and the Soviet Union who gave them weapons, equipment, and resources that put both USA and the Vietcong close enough to peer level that with their gerrilla tactic they could balancew things

Ah yes, because the AK 47 is on equal footing with an M16. Plus, a good chunk of those weapons was used in WW2 like the M1 Garand, Walther P38, and more. Sure the difference isn't as grand as pre-industrial vs post-industrial, but still nothing to ignore.

And how is this relevant? The reason these things work is because it is too expensive to monitor every inch of land and ocean and because with drugs if one shipment arrives at its destination the drug dealers gain enough to pay for 50 failed shipments...

It's relevant in the fact that despite the US's military advantages and technological ability, random drug smugglers in Latin America can slip by and do business. Scratch built by people who have no formal education. The way you talk it sounds as if this is a pre-industrial meets post-industrial situation. That no matter what we do, we will fail because our tools are worse than at of our enemies. In Cannon, the Charon relay was activated in 2149. Meaning between then and our voted choice, 208 years have passed. Will we bet at a disadvantage, yes. But the way you are framing it is that we will be helpless against the dime-a-dozen pirate band.
 
Adhoc vote count started by chellewalker on Nov 7, 2024 at 6:42 PM, finished with 231 posts and 94 votes.


It's so over!!! We're Bidone :cry: Hopefully it's not as bad as I and others have predicted.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp2r0Ykeq_4
 
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Scheduled vote count started by Thornez on Nov 7, 2024 at 2:38 AM, finished with 233 posts and 94 votes.
 
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