So, can someone remind me what the Vong are, exactly? I'd look it up in Wookipedia (or whatever it's called), but that site drives me crazy. There are so many ads on it that just going to a new page (if it doesn't completely crash) takes forever from all the lag. Can someone give a bit of a summary?

Think humanoids who shape zerg for every possible tool or task. Living biotools, ships, weapons, etc. Also, rampaging religious fanatics who think that all mechanical technology is blasphemous. Ran out of room in their old galaxy.

The Force thought they were jerks, so it kicked them out. Vong are invisible to the Force.
 
Think humanoids who shape zerg for every possible tool or task. Living biotools, ships, weapons, etc. Also, rampaging religious fanatics who think that all mechanical technology is blasphemous. Ran out of room in their old galaxy.

The Force thought they were jerks, so it kicked them out. Vong are invisible to the Force.

Huh, that seems rather silly if you ask me.
 
That is why most authors gloss over that part of the extended universe and skip to after the end of the war.
 
Huh, that seems rather silly if you ask me.


And it took freaking forever too.

Dropped a moon on Chewbacca, wound up corrupting the fuck out of Jacen, ganked Mara Jade and Anakin Solo, and borked over the new republic, to the point that Daala, of all people, chaired the Galactic alliance that was cobbled together out of the Imperial Remnant and the ashes of the New Republic.

A dark time for the universe, and the franchise.
 
You know what? With all the stuff we've seen, I wouldn't be surprised if Torr pops out a System Builder-type thing, kinda like Counterpoint, except instead of taking planetary bodies from other parts of the galaxy, it literally makes them out of mass/metal. Or it's a dyson sphere sized thing.

...Is there a term for a solar system sized dyson sphere? or, knowing the mass of this sucker, a gravitational mass bigger than a solar system?
 
...Is there a term for a solar system sized dyson sphere? or, knowing the mass of this sucker, a gravitational mass bigger than a solar system?
...The term for a solar system sized Dyson sphere is Dyson sphere. Size doesn't matter much, and most depictions of them have suns in the middle anyway. Stellar-scale Megastructure works as well.

I don't know why Megastructure is capitalized, but that seems to be the correct way to write it.
 
Man the Vong are so dead.
I'd hope not.

The Vong are, in the end, just looking for a new home. It's not their fault their culture is such that they can't conceive of peace. In canon after Jacen and Zenoma convinced them that they were in the wrong they tried to fix all the damage they'd done. They certainly don't deserve genocide.
Think humanoids who shape zerg for every possible tool or task. Living biotools, ships, weapons, etc. Also, rampaging religious fanatics who think that all mechanical technology is blasphemous. Ran out of room in their old galaxy.

The Force thought they were jerks, so it kicked them out. Vong are invisible to the Force.
Their home galaxy was devastated by a droid rebellion back when they were still in their agricultural stage of development. Their sapient planet thought this was uncool, so she sent them out to fight in bioships she made for them. Spending centuries fighting machines in the name of their goddess shaped their culture to a large degree, and eventually their planet got too creeped out by them being violent religious fanatics and abandoned them, blocking them off from the force so that feeling them wouldn't remind her of what she'd done to them.

They weren't completely stripped of the force though, it was a plot point that they were just blocked from it, and the block was imperfect anyway.
 
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I'd hope not.

The Vong are, in the end, just looking for a new home. It's not their fault their culture is such that they can't conceive of peace. In canon after Jacen and Zenoma convinced them that they were in the wrong they tried to fix all the damage they'd done. They certainly don't deserve genocide.
Their home galaxy was devastated by a droid rebellion back when they were still in their agricultural stage of development. Their sapient planet thought this was uncool, so she sent them out to fight in bioships she made for them. Spending centuries fighting machines in the name of their goddess shaped their culture to a large degree, and eventually their planet got too creeped out by them being violent religious fanatics and abandoned them, blocking them off from the force so that feeling them wouldn't remind her of what she'd done to them.

They weren't completely stripped of the force though, it was a plot point that they were just blocked from it, and the block was imperfect anyway.

Ah, well, I was a little fuzzy on the details....
 
Well......I've just Binge'd the fic, and like bombed in a carpet manner........

You know, I'm not sure the Empire has many SSD's left.

Which is hilarious as between that and the other thefts, they actually have to be looking at the account books and thinking "We have a serious problem"

All you need to do now is sent a force to capture and reclaim the new Death Star and the military might be deep into the red in their fiscal spending.

Which would also be hilarious. The Death Robot that is a Commander accidently broke the empire with economics.

As for the Vong.... with fifty or so Death Star laser clusters, proper shielding and more defence lasers and weapons than you can shake a large stick at...... I don't think they will last very long.

"Oh noes! They have a trio of Planet Ships!"
*Bzort Gzort Shzort*
"Well, they had three....."

meanwhile you wreck everything else in the area through sheer firepower.

Plus, you can 'de-terraform' planets through weather control, massive explosions or just covering them in Metal Extractors and Generators...

Yeah, It will be a pain and a half to hunt them all down, but they shouldnt be a big threat.
 
He's explicitly doing his utmost best to ensure they don't have any personalities at all.

Unlike some people, the SI hated Threepio the moment he heard his caterwauling, and his opinion did not greatly improve over the various movies.

And he wants a professional army, not little borky complaining quirky soldiers.
True. Threepio is a bitch to listen to.

But you forgot about Artoo, the greatest super-weapon of the Rebellion, who is one badass little droid with the patience of a saint (working around Threepio), and more then able to tear through the Empire on its own.
 
39 – Biding Time
39 – Biding Time
So. What to say about the Yuuzhan Vong.

Let's start with the highlights.

365.

That's about how many people died because of them invading the galaxy. Not people dying as a matter of course, from things like disease or simple accidents. I mean that is how many people that the Yuuzhan Vong were actually responsible for, linked directly to their actions.

Oh, I'm sorry.

365 trillion.

That was just in this galaxy.

Now, some people might be inclined to feel really bad for them. There was a grand machine war between two droid groups that eventually devastated a lot of stuff. In return the Vong's planet did some weird shit and gave them some really good abilities at genetic engineering. They became entirely organic-based, eschewing metal technologies entirely and declaring such things abominations. Which is fair considering just how bad they were getting their shit kicked in and for how long by those other two droid groups. All very, very reasonable.

Except.

As the war went on, and the Vong become more and more powerful, they also became more and more warlike. Yet their planet helped them create more gigantic organisms that would make even the tyranids stop and take notice – before the bugs subsequently tried to nom them of course. Again, this part isn't that unacceptable. Few people could face two galaxy spanning civilizations in constant war with one another without being negatively affected. Eventually the Vong got so good at war that they won, beat the other two out of their galaxy entirely.

Except.

Then…the Vong kept going. They didn't want the peace they'd won, they wanted to ensure that every last example of machine-based technology in their entire galaxy was destroyed. Naturally, a lot of people protested against that, after all they didn't have a fancy planet that gave them super powerful bio-tech.

The Vong didn't take no for an answer.

So they became the devastating conquerors of their galaxy instead of the droid groups. Entire species were not just subjected but exterminated. Others were put into species-wide slavery. But hey, they did it! They finally removed all technology that wasn't organically based from the whole of their galaxy. All it took was them putting Hitler to shame a million times over.

Wonder of wonders, after that was done and they ran out of an external foe to fight, they turned on themselves. So bad that they devastated the same galaxy they'd conquered. Their home planet got destroyed, they got cut off from the Force, and then as a species they experienced nearly unfathomable pain to an extent that they turned to modeling their entire culture off of pain, inflicting and receiving it. Then they looked at the galaxy they'd blown up – most of, there was still stuff left – and then turned and went looking for a new one to destroy.

Basically, genocidal pilgrims whose idea of Thanksgiving would be putting the natives whose land they'd arrived at on pikes. Who'd been warring amongst themselves the entire ride over from their galaxy to this one.

And sure, after they lost in this galaxy they were convinced that they'd fucked up somewhere along the way. But after hundreds of trillions of lives lost, one would think that maybe just letting the survivors go into the Unknown Regions wouldn't be the coolest thing!

It just annoys me.

So…yeah. It's be nice if I could convince them into a great religious revelation.

I'm not going to be able to.

Hell I'm technically their nightmare made manifest, all technology, no biology.

I'm not going to exterminate them though. Not if I can help it. I'm just going to convince them to turn around. They devastated 'most' of their galaxy. But honestly, if they'd turned their ludicrous bio-engineering abilities to say fixing their shit maybe there'd be more galaxy for them to live in. Others might disagree, but honestly I'm the one here right now and this is my decision. They made the journey here and they can make the journey back. It's not like they can run out of supplies with their ludicrous mastery over biology stuff.

So…yeah.

Also, I disagreed with the Yuuzhan Vong War in that it killed a lot of good people – characters, not just the greater numbers which were bad enough – and ended up getting some more turned to the Dark Side. Which I wasn't about to put up with.

Still….my now thirty solar systems worth of metal and energy flow were slowly starting to creep over the same constant drain on them going into my creation. So there's nothing to do now but bide my time until it's done. The problem is doing just nothing is something that I can't do anymore considering how used I am to running around and being active. Ah, Cortana, you totally correct person about how torturous it is to just wait around as an incredibly powerful AI. If only the Halo series had continued after 3 instead of halting, then I might learn what happened with you and the Master Chief.

Shut up. Nothing after Halo 3 is canon.

Barring my fabricators somehow managing to go faster there is nothing to do except devise other things. So I will.

My modified Lucrehulk design, the one with all the fabricators and the HK-G units, is good, but while I'd like to rely on the thing that is even now still being built all the time I can't. Which means that I need something else. A ship built around space combat rather than the…Cube….ship? Fine, Cube-class. The Cube-class is rated for space combat but its main purpose is landing armies and coordinating them. This new one will be all about fighting in space.

So, bring up the old Confederacy designs I've yanked from the holonet and black markets. Again with the terrible programming – but I can fix that with no problem – and then I'm just kind of looking at the various droid fighter types. We've got regular and bomber, which is just about all one might need, but I might want more. Like scout ships and suicide bombers. It's a matter of course as well to devise an HK-Admiral, or HK-A for short, at this point as well. Under the same principles of the Cube-class, with internal fabricators and the overhaul package, it'll do pretty well.

As for appearance…I have no problem with using the Lucrehulk design again, only this time I don't replace the big ball with a cube but instead with a hexagonal prism.

Right. Cube-class and Hexagon-class. The latter is going to need a lot more resource cores though to sustain the building of its fighters, which is fine considering that by its very nature it can't hold its units like the Cube-class will be able to. Furthermore, the Hexagon-class is going to visually bristle with guns. Turbolasers, missile turrets with internal fabricator and resource core systems that I've made standard at this point, smaller laser cannons for basic point defense, and more than a bevy of ion cannons.

There. Ground and Space/Air covered.

Both, without me needing to directly be in control, and capable of fabricating a wide variety of troops or starfighters to deal with many situations.

Yeah.

As soon as my creation is done…I'm going to start making a fleet of my own.

Now…how many ships of assholes are coming the galaxies way?

Right. Thousands.

I make that many.

Or hell.

I'll make more.
 
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40 – A New Challenger Approached
40 – A New Challenger Approached
"We can't use the ships!"

"We already have been!"

"But we can't know if he – they – one of them might have done something! Hell, they might have done nothing but left behind some kind of coding!"

"Then how-,"

"To take control of it and kill us all!"

"Listen, man, I've been over and under those computers more than my wife, I'm telling you they're clean!"

Mon Mothma did not pause as she walked past them, merely crinkling her eyes slightly before turning her head away. She had heard that argument before, and many more like it besides. There had been some like it before, but now that seemed to be the only thing that anyone was talking about.

The whole of the Alliance had been thrown into mass confusion by what had been done at Kuat. Many had immediately voted to disabuse themselves of every single asset that the droid known as 'Theta' had given them, others had begun treating the scientists that 'Beta' arrived with even worse – save for Xux who the Lady Organa had taken an almost motherish approach towards – while still others were clamoring that the one known as 'Alpha' be contacted.

For what, precisely, she did not know. Surely they did not think that these…droids…would willingly give them some of the most powerful starships in the galaxy. The Katana fleet had been a wondrous boon, allowing the Alliance to expand their operations ten-fold, the credits transferred to them had allowed them to make long standing payments to numerous underworld contacts, find new information and technologies, and more. The Cluster fleet had allowed a great many covert operations that brought them ever closer to bringing down the Empire.

Yet not once had Theta or Beta hinted at their organization – for it surely had to be a group of them – giving them some of their truly advanced technologies. Their weapons and bodies defied even the most powerful of scans, their ships had not been present to anything but the naked eye the whole of its time there at Haven Base, so why would they give the Alliance something like the Executor? That did not even account for the fact that they would have no way to even crew such ships.

"Lady Mothma," a warm drawl called out to her, revealed to have come from General Calrissian swaggering up to her from another passageway. "What brings you here to this fine base of ours? I thought you'd have left the system right after The Network did."

"I would have, yet for the heist at Kuat – the Network?" She interrupted herself as his emphasis caught up to her.

"Yeah, that's what I've been calling them. Theta described it as 'the Network' when he went crazy for a little there. He and Beta were so familiar with one another it was like they were related."

Mon considered that, humming as the two of them continued to walk.

"The Network…I suppose that does make sense. Enough that they were connected apparently across the galaxy and were able to transfer pain amongst themselves…"

"Can I mention how odd it is to see a droid in that much pain?"

"It was almost…organic, in its pain, true," she murmured. "Droids can feel pain, we know this, but nothing like that."

Conversation was forced to a halt, however, as they arrived at a pair of guards standing in front of a door to the meeting room. A second later the soldiers stepped aside, the door whooshing open to reveal the High Command of the Alliance that had been so separated after the Battle of Hoth. Murmured conversations came to a halt as they beheld one of the main architects of the entire Alliance standing before them before the woman entered alongside Lando.

"Chancellor," one nodded to her before the rest of the High Command returned to their seats.

"General Madine," she nodded back before sitting herself at the head of the table, General Calrissian moving to a seat offered to him. "Friends, we are assembled here to discuss the latest events to shake the galaxy by the organization of droids which I have elected to call The Network, as named by General Calrissian."

"The Network, eh? Works as well as any," one of the more grizzled generals grunted.

"They're dangerous, can we afford to use the resources they gave us?" Another asked.

"Can we afford not to?"

It was no secret that Admiral Ackbar was rather possessive of his now greatly expanded fleet, and considering that he had been using it to great effect against the Empire he was right to disagree with the notion that he should cede control of it out of fear.

"I can't believe they stole those super star destroyers right out of Kuat," Lando chuckled. "Sure, they might be crazy and too powerful for their own good, but you have to admit that takes some-,"

"It's this 'Alpha' I'm more worried about. Theta and Beta were much calmer, but that one was almost manic," General Madine said.

"At least we have a name for the reason the Empire has been going crazy lately. It wasn't just us, it was the disappearance of their best ships across the galaxy!"

"Is no one concerned that it was likely The Network that intervened at Hoth? Blue Squadron was talking about mysterious transports for months after that but there were no sensor recordings proving it. The Death Squadron disappearing afterward might mean that The Network has been involved even longer than we thought?" Yet another member of the High Command called out.

That too, was troubling to Mon Mothma. How long had The Network been watching? Waiting?

She still shivered when she viewed the audio recording of Theta when the reasoning for so casually delivering what almost amounted to salvation to the Alliance was demanded of him.

'That you win."

What did 'winning' mean, for The Network? By now almost everyone was blaming them for the war in the underworld, the theft of a rumored trillion credits at minimum, and to be honest with herself she couldn't be sure they were wrong.

"I'm more concerned about what they've been doing with all the super star destroyers they've taken."

That too, was most certainly frightening. It had cost many Bothan lives to discover just why the Empire was so frantically searching across the galaxy – not for the Alliance as suspected but for The Network and their various ships.

"If they are indeed responsible for the theft of every single currently missing super star destroyer…they may possess the greatest single concentration of firepower seen since the Death Star."

"At least they're against the Empire."

"No, not at least, they might be worse! What if this is the beginning of another Droid Rebellion?"

Mon Mothma closed her eyes and let the now raging debate wash over her. Generals and admirals alike were calling out and yelling, not about what to do further against the Empire…but about what to do about The Network.

Intended or not, those droids had thrown the entire Rebellion into chaos.
 
If only the Halo series had continued after 3 instead of halting, then I might learn what happened with you and the Master Chief.

Shut up. Nothing after Halo 3 is canon.
Yep to bad nothing happened after Halo 3.:p

On the bright side if you do go to Haloverse you can prevent all the stupid from happening in the first place.
 
Their home planet got destroyed, they got cut off from the Force, and then as a species they experienced nearly unfathomable pain to an extent that they turned to modeling their entire culture off of pain, inflicting and receiving it.

I was of the impression that the Force was unique to the SW galaxy, not their universe. Might just be fanon, but I could have sworn. . .

It cost many Bothan lives to discover just why the Empire was so frantically searching across the galaxy

Of course it did -eyeroll-

Also, I kinda agree with the rebels - The Network is shady as hell. Can't wait till you pop up with your massive worldships.
 
The Bothan Spynet is the biggest and most well connected information network in the galaxy, it's pretty unavoidable that the Rebellion would not go to them.

Especially when the Rebellion suddenly has the funds to purchase information that they couldn't previously.

Unfortuante for both Bothans and Rebellion that the Empire is cracking down harder than ever due to the major loss of face that resulted from the Heist of Kuat.
 
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