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Deus Pater (Exalted/40k)

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[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[x] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.

We're going to have to explain to the Sororitas that we can't shout corpses into compliance yet.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
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You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.​
 
[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
 
[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.

As a random note, we should definitely call it a machine spirit before someone accuses us of consorting with demons. Perhaps something like: "Honored Machine Spirit, unbar the gates and open a way to your would-be master. I wish to have words with him."
 
We made the right decision. If we had gone back to the lodged a complaint they likely would have been gone before to they got it. Or at least been able to pretend they never got it.
 
I am unsure of what to vote for. Usurpation is the least dick way, but could stab us in the back. Judgement is a no go, its the very problem Cardinal set out to correct. I would vote for Retribution, but i might be missing something. Would anyone here be willing to take a guess at the ways these votes could backfire?
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.

I think the good Admiral is overdue for some percussive therapy.
 
pucflek said:
I would vote for Retribution, but i might be missing something. Would anyone here be willing to take a guess at the ways these votes could backfire?
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Well, Retribution does involve us storming the bridge and committing violence on the Admiral.

Go reread the current update and see what happened to the local Navy ranking officer to see how that could go wrong.

Especially since we still want to be able to work with the Navy, afterwords. The locals, at least.

Usurpation, on the other hand, avoids contact with the Admiral entirely - and hopes he reacts the way we want despite explicitly not putting any direct effort to that end. He'll almost certainly try something rather than go straight to giving up, and we'll have to deal with that, too.

Might give us an excuse to off him that the rest of the Navy will accept, though.

Judgement, as you said, is pretty much its own failure state.
 
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[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
 
pucflek said:
I am unsure of what to vote for. Usurpation is the least dick way, but could stab us in the back. Judgement is a no go, its the very problem Cardinal set out to correct. I would vote for Retribution, but i might be missing something. Would anyone here be willing to take a guess at the ways these votes could backfire?
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Sure
Maugan Ra said:
[ ] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
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It is possible that the Admiral might attempt to fight this as a hostile boarding action. Fighting against his own ship and claiming that we have summoned a demon. This would require that the Admiral not have a close connection to his ship, but denial can happen.
Maugan Ra said:
[ ] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
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Enhances our reputation for mind control.
Maugan Ra said:
[ ] Judgement - Life for life, and death for death. Slay the Admiral for his sins, and by the Emperor's own right claim dominion over this fleet. No longer will you tolerate the instruments of the Imperium to operate contrary to your will.
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Sadly this has the least possible downsides given that speaking standard language, but we are trying to change things not just be some new warlord. Also least upsides.
 
[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.

So, i think one of the problems of this one might be the very attitude of Navy described in this update. They do not take kindly to planetary outsiders wailing at them, which could lead to betrayal in future. That said, it is less of a problem than mind control i guess? I am not very sure. Might change later if someone comes up with compelling arguments.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Retribution - You will go to the Admiral on the bridge, and there in his place of power you will demonstrate the folly of his callous disregard. He will be broken, body and will, before you are done, and only then will you reforge him into a true servant of the Emperor.
 
[X] Usurpation - Command the spirit of the ship and take away that which the Admiral believes is his by right. When he humbles himself before you and acknowledges his own transgression, you will consider the possibility of forgiveness.
 
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