Dimensionist said:
For some reason, though, transfiguration of food ... eh, it's probably got to do with transfiguration being permanent and conjuring ... not being so.
Except the spell Avis conjures birds, and if you squint really hard you can consider that as 'food' so their own laws of magic break down before they were enven introduced (7th books mention, spell cast on 4th book).
 
Trying to get a coherent magic system out of the Hogwartsverse books is like trying to get an honest answer out of your average politician.
 
ryuan said:
Except the spell Avis conjures birds, and if you squint really hard you can consider that as 'food' so their own laws of magic break down before they were enven introduced (7th books mention, spell cast on 4th book).
It's probably got something to do with the whole 'conjured items disappear after some time' thing. Like, it's possible for people to conjure food, but since they don't want people messing around with the spell considering the problems involved (namely, conjured food disappears, so does the energy inserted into the body's system, meaning cells vanish), they just flat out say it's impossible so that the students don't bother.
 
How I hopped it was like that, but as a rule I don't give credit to authors when they don't try themselves.
 
Well, in a previous Hiver HP fic, the Wand, there was this instance:

"And that is still relatively simple, as far as transfiguration goes.
Some things however give me a headache.

Example: You can not conjure food.

It seems simple at a first glance. You can not conjure eatable things.

Wrong.

You can transfigure a stone into a wonderfully cooked BBQ beef. Transfiguration masters can even transfigure food from air. How that works with the 'can not transfigure parts of items' rule, I have no idea. But that require skills on par with Dumbledore and McGonagall.
So you can transfigure something into food, but you can not conjure anything edible, right?
Wrong.

You can conjure animals, like cows, with enough skill. You can then kill the cow and cook it. No problem.
But you can not conjure food.

*twitch*"

Honestly, sometimes its best to chalk up inconsistencies or weirdness regarding spells and their effects into the category of 'I don't have to explain shit; it's magic'
 
Number of students nothing. One character was named in book one and then wasn't on a list of students, Hermione had a sister and then didn't, and Hermione's middle name changed.

So either Rowling just didn't give a shit or somebody is running around killing muggleborns and then sloppily changing memories to remove them from existence.
 
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I channeled my inner magic through my right index finger, moving it in a circle before jabbing at the snapped in half pen on the table. "Reparo," I said, commanding it.

Nothing happened. No surge of power, no movement of the pen.

I sighed and picked the magical theory book back up as I leaned back in my comfy chair. Flipping through it to the index I started to look through it to see if there was something I missed.

It didn't work with any of the colors of mana, not any combination I had tried. Not even my colorless internal magic worked.

Even a book named magical theory spent almost the entire book describing how wand movements and syllables of the incantation worked together to create the spell. Nothing about how the spell actually did what it did.

Putting the book down I collapsed back against the chair with a small frown. That did not help me learn how this kind of magic worked.

I looked around the small but comfortable hotel room in thought. Bed, small table, bathroom, table and chair. A small TV. Nothing expensive, it was on the edge of town so prices were lower. Luckily London's public transportation network is pretty good.


Maybe there was something special in the wand? Something that acted as a catalyst?

Either way, that was the next step. To find myself a wand.

There simply was not enough information on how to recreate these damn spells and my finger simply was not doing it even after a couple of days of trying. My best odds of figuring this out was to get my hands on a wand, learn to cast the spell and then reverse engineer from there.

Going to Ollivanders was out of the question. I had no idea exactly how he figured out which wand fit to which user.

If it was anything soul related I would stand out like a spotlight among a bunch of candles.

I shook my head and got up to get changed, putting on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt before pulling a cloak with a hood from my bag and folding it up so it was easy to carry.

Most of my random crap I would leave in my hotel room. Nothing dangerous or really valuable. The few objects that were, were magical but looked innocent enough, like my armor.


Before leaving I took a look out the window to figure out if I should wear the coat as well. It was slightly cloudy but there was no rain today.



XXXXXXXXXXX



I frowned slightly as I watched the brick wall behind The Leaky Cauldron. Before making my way through the pub I had put on my cloak and pulled the hood up so Tom would not recognize me.

I likely could just have walked through anyway, but honestly I didn't feel like pretending not to understand him completely again.

Now, the question was how to get past that damn wall. I could hardly ask Tom to open it for me again.

In hindsight it would have been better to pretend to be a foreign squib, but who thought I would need to get in here twice this close together. Besides, hindsight is always twenty/twenty.

Finally I got tired at inspecting what looked like a brick wall and shrugged before channeling my internal magic through my index finger while tapping the bricks I saw Tom tap before.


A whole lot of nothing happened.


I stared at the wall in front of me before I tried it again. Nothing happened.

Ok, that was seriously getting annoying. I 'saw' the magic when he used it. It was just a simple pulse of clear magic, no real focus or affinity to it. That should have worked!

Giving the wall a small glare I tried it once more, putting a bit more power into it. Nothing happened once more and I started to contemplate that perhaps I needed to preform a manual override on this damn wall, but before I had time to try something that might have been a tad indiscreet I heard somebody clear her throat behind me.

I blinked and turned to find myself face to face with hat with a vulture on it, the owner hidden by the brim.

Taking a step in surprise brought the owner of the vulture hat into my field of view as the angle changes "Well, young man? Are you just going to stand there or are you going to go through?" she said sternly.

I cleared my through and looked down slightly as if embarrassed "I...kind of forgot my wand at home, Ma'am. I was trying to figure out how to ask Tom to open the path without looking like a fool." I said, thinking quickly of a excuse.

The old lady, who I could only assume was Neville's grandmother - I refuse to believe there are two people who would be seen alive in that hat - shook her head "Young people today. You know, my grandson is the same way." she complained, confirming my suspicion "Now, step aside."

I quickly got out of her way and she pulled her wand, tapping the bricks with it which caused it to fold in on itself to reveal the alley.

"Thank you." I quickly said to her, following her into the Alley.

The old which simply shook her head "In my day, people did not forget their wands. Youth today..." she said, grumbling to herself as she walked away.


I looked after her for a moment before looking back at the brick wall. Getting through from this side only needed you to walk up to it and it opened. The big question is that why it didn't open to me from the other side? Maybe the wand did something with the magic as it was channeled and the enchantment on the wall did not recognize me.

Shaking my head I pulled my hood back on and continued through the alley. More people out today, but it still wasn't crowded by any means.

Making my way through the alley I checked the signs of the stores more closely this time. From what I could see, only Ollivanders sounded like they sold wands.


Not having any luck I stopped outside the bank, tapping my finger against my left in thought. Well, it was kind of a long shot to find some here...but what about Knockturn?

There was after all no reason to assume this was canon...not that canon actually described much about what was in there.

Hell, who know, maybe I get lucky and find a super trunk filled with time turners and books teaching me ancient magic laying around just for me to find.


Yeah.


Right.


I'll be lucky if I don't find something that want to eat me.

That did bring something to mind through and as I walked to find the place the alley split I made a mental note to pick up a copy of the Daily Prophet on the way back to the hotel.

It would at least make it possible to find out if there was some kind of major difference like Voldemort being the Minister of Magic or something like that.

...I really should have checked that earlier.

But first, I need more muggle cash. Time to throw a bit more gold at the goblins.




AN// Many thanks to Rufus Shinra for betaing this part.
 
Aw, you can't use HP magic? So disappointing.:(

Although ... clear affinity, no focus? Did you ever learn how to use colorless magic?
 
Maybe this is an artificial plane with a controlling AI and using a wand is giving commands to it. Would be disappointing because that would make it impossible to learn HP magic at all.
 
Regarding food, it could very well be that there are a number of subtleties in transfiguring food that make it exceedingly dangerous when eaten. As a possible explanation, there is a property is chemistry known as 'chirality' which has to do with the make-up of a particular chemical. It can simplistically be thought of as 'backwards chemicals', where you have an asymmetrical chemical that goes (for example) H-O-C-H3, which is in fact an entirely different chemical than H3-C-O-H. (It's actually more complex than that, but I'm dumbing it down). In cases where people have tried to artificially create chemicals, they have sometimes created the opposite version (or 'Bizarro Chemical' if you prefer). I'm pretty sure that was the cause of the Thalidomide problem.

Anyway, since chirality is only a problem for asymmetrical chemicals, more complex chemicals are more likely to be problematic. If you assume wizards have to deal with this problem in some manner, considering how complex organic material can be, it could be quite dangerous to transfigure food. When transfiguring living animals, there is logically a self-corrective measure, as a living creature reacts to the chemicals inside them, and thus the problem sorts itself out in the form of damage to the creature being automatically repaired as part of the transfiguration. The likelihood of such problems showing up may also give interesting indicators as to why some transfigurations are harder than others (though don't ask me why they were transfiguring stuff into mice in first year).
Thus, transfiguring food is dangerous, as although it may be possible to learn how not to screw it up, the sheer range of foods, average difficulty, and the fact that it is fatal if not done correctly, may be enough even for the notably incautious wizarding world to go 'Yeah, stop it guys. Too dangerous. Quit it!"
 
Ryune said:
Well sort of. There is really no way to tell unless he is capable of using a wand and then tries elsewhere. Honestly though, I am a might bit confused about his paranoia regarding Ollivander. The guy has at least some kind of survival instincts so if he did spot what kind of beasty Hiver is he would likely act much like wolfram and heart did and just nope out of offending the eldrich horror.
I suspect it's just tension-building until the next update. There's actually a really obvious way for Hiver to have a wand(s) of his own, which I've actually already implied with this sentence.
 
Kerfitd said:
... Then dismiss him, obviously.
... Or don't, it could be used as a hostage for when Dumbledore decides to force Winter to... do anything.
Dumbledore ... really isn't that kinda guy. Don't let fanon fool you - by Rowling's own words, Dumbledore was meant to be 'a shining light in a world of black and grey. Someone who embodied everything good and just, while not being an unapproachable idol."

Dumbledore was basically meant to be Wizard Superman.
 
Dimensionist said:
Dumbledore ... really isn't that kinda guy. Don't let fanon fool you - by Rowling's own words, Dumbledore was meant to be 'a shining light in a world of black and grey. Someone who embodied everything good and just, while not being an unapproachable idol."

Dumbledore was basically meant to be Wizard Superman.
Whatever he was or was not meant to be, in the end he is what he is. In the context of this story — whatever Hiver decides to make him be.
IC, if Winter is thinking about Voldemort being the Prime Minister, he ought to think about Dumbledore being a manipulative bastard too. Think and prepare.
 
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