Cryptekial (Worm/WH40K)

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Seriously, instead of looking at all the previous failures and saying, "Let's keep people from trying to make a positive change in favour of making sure that nothing terrible can happen."

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To be fair, the last two tinkers to make such game changing and hope promising tech had the Simurgh drop on them. Now Haywire is dead and Sphere became Mannequin. And, unknown to Piggot, Brainstorm aka Andrew Ritcher got ganked by Leviathan, though people think he was aiming for Dragon so it still applies.

Basically, when a Tinker like Taylor comes along, you have to start planning for an Endbringer right now. That's not even including all the other parties from the Empire to the Slaughterhouse 9 who could take interest in Taylor's tech. From Piggot's perspective Taylor/Loom has opened Pandora's box and Piggot's too late to slam the thing shut again. Now she's left scrabbling to try and find hope but Chief Director Costa-Brown won't share it with her.

All of this can be done in exchange for her helping Armsmaster and Kid Win on their projects, as well as an exclusive sales deal with the PRT.

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I don't think she's worried about Taylor selling to anyone else, the assessment of someone she grudgingly respects has indicated Loom is heroically inclined. What's she worried about is someone getting to Loom before she can make contact with the PRT again. If when Armsmaster had realized the potential ramifications of the fabricator he'd contacted her immediately and stalled Loom until she could get there, or brought loom straight to her instead of playing/experimenting with the tech she wouldn't be nearly as worried. Now instead of getting off on the front foot as far Loom is concerned she's having to react and is on the back foot. Who knows if any of the gangs will get to her before the PRT? And if they do? Well, that's potentially the world gone right there. Piggot knows she has leaks, she knows that info is likely out there by now, and that's why she's stressing.

Like I said, the evil is already out of the box so to speak and Piggot is afraid things will only get worse. Hence why she so desperately wants Taylor brought in so she can protect the potentially world ending Tinker before some villain or an Enbrionger drops on her head.

 

[Wobulator]

To be fair, the last two tinkers to make such game changing and hope promising tech had the Simurgh drop on them. Now Haywire is dead and Sphere became Mannequin. And, unknown to Piggot, Brainstorm aka Andrew Ritcher got ganked by Leviathan, though people think he was aiming for Dragon so it still applies.

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Haywire was a villain, not a hero.

 

[Major Session]

Haywire was a villain, not a hero.

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How does that affect him being a game changing Tinker? He made a portal to another dimension and proved multiverse theory/the existance of alternate realities.

Certainly as a villain the PRT wouldn't care anywhere near as much what happened to him, but he's another example of a Tinker (alignment irrelevant) who created world changing tech and was later attacked by an Endbringer (okay, much later in his case and there's no real explanation why. Maybe he was making another portal? Who knows why Ziz does what she does).

 

[Portec]

I am in the group that believes that Contessa will step in right then, with an offer that no one can deny, when Taylor would otherwise be dead. Most likely Taylor is knocked out and just grabbed.

Till than Coil will try something. Really stuble as he knows how much heat (Chief Director) he would gather just going after her.

 

[Major Session]

In the first timeline Thomas Calvert finished changing, slipping into the skin tight bodysuit of his true persona, the villain Coil. Often he felt like this, that Thomas Calvert was the mask and that the real person was the snaked themed villain he transformed himself into. As Coil he felt safe, secure, powerful! Here there were no stupid superiors to get in his way or monsters waiting behind every tree. As Coil it was he who was feared and in control.

In the second timeline Thomas Calvert was just exiting his company's office block, and getting into his car to make the short journey home to his modest house in the south end of Brockton Bay.

In the first timeline as Coil was walking down the corridors of his base, he nodded at each security guard he passed. Detestable as the mercenaries were, they were useful. An expendable yet dependable resource. Speaking of resources, he'd acquired information on a new Tinker today. Not just a new Tinker even, not even a powerful one. No, this Loom was beyond that, a world changer, a revolutionary! A Tinker whose very presence distorted the playing field and forced everyone to react to her.

And she was vulnerable.

Without resources, her tech locked up in the Protectorate Rig, though he suspected it would be moved to the PRT building soon... A possible theft opportunity perhaps? No, no. That would draw far too much attention. Besides, why settle merely for a taste when he could have the Tinker?

Loom was with out her technology, had no established lab so no fortifications to fall back upon, and no teammates to protect her if his information was correct. An excellent time to collect another pet for himself and make that technology his. The ability to simply create anything he needed, anything he desired? Gold, diamonds, weapons, drugs, even plutonium... The very concept made him giddy. To have that power at his disposal, why, surely it was what Loom existed for? All such capes existed to serve him, just look at his precious Tattletale. Even as she strained at her leash a few sharp words were enough to force his pet to obey. Fear was such a wonderful tool, especially when her own power did most of the work for him. Just as Loom's would.

In the second timeline Thomas Calvert had just finished his short drive and was making his way from his car to the front door of his house. Entering, he placed his brief case down by the front door as it closed and stretched, cracking his spine. Driving always gave him a stiff back from the way he had to hunch slightly due to his height. Walking forward into his home and heading for the kitchen Thomas paused as he spotted a white envelope upon the coffee table he knew hadn't been there when he left for work this morning.

Cautiously, he approached and stopped as he saw a distinctive, unique, and above all familiar, stylized C embossed on the envelope, almost like a sideways Ω symbol. With trembling fingers he picked up the envelope and cracked the seal.

In the first timeline, striding through the concrete halls, Coil turned, into the the final corridor to heading to his office just as his car pulled up at home in the second. Entering his office door at the same time Thomas entered his front door at his residence Coil paused at the exact same time as his counter part, also seeing a painfully familiar symbol upon an envelope. So with trembling fingers he picked up the envelope and cracked the seal.

In both Timelines Thomas Calvert and Coil read the exact same message written out in a neat printed script.

Leave her alone. Loom is ours. - NM

 

[wakshazi]

I think Cauldron is going for the wait and see approach here. They don't really care if BB survives after all (well they accepted it probably won't), but they want to know how it falls apart. Or if by some miracle holds together and how to repeat that.

Nice omake by the way.

 

[hunter4000695]

I'm getting the sneaking suspicion that Taylor's going to see director Piggot's action is being a bully, and we all know how that's going to end

Anyway I have a few questions for the author mostly based on how you're going to interpret Necron tech in this environment. But before any of those questions I must know (and I apologize if it's been covered before) is Taylor's Necron tech power Shard-based/entity or Rob based, because the sheer thought that an entity visited the 40K universe (And didn't get owned in all ways) is utterly terrifying.

On with the technology questions first off phase shifting technology enough said?

Second Null Field Matrices? Because based on the Wikipedia description of this tech it should flat out shut down any and all dimensional shenanigans i.e. powers/shards/endbringers/entities, which should also make you immune to ziz Which is always a good thing (damn trolling Angel)

Finally void ships? Because before Taylor was the ultimate in munchkining she was incredibly good at running away from her problems until she had a way of fixing them. The only problem with that is Taylor has a problem with escalation, which isn't necessarily a bad thing except when you take into consideration that the Necron have escalation in their combat doctrine; especially when they specifically used the words "exponential growth" as a viable combat strategyrofl::lol On second thought run Taylor run

The good news is there won't be a Khepri, nowhere just going to get C'tan Taylor The Endless Swarm

 

[GhostKing 666]

Second Null Field Matrices? Because based on the Wikipedia description of this tech it should flat out shut down any and all dimensional shenanigans i.e. powers/shards/endbringers/entities, which should also make you immune to ziz Which is always a good thing (damn trolling Angel)

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Um no it shouldn't. Null Field Matrixes block out the Warp, they work by admitting an energy field that disrupts a psykers connection to the warp. They shouldn't do anything at all to block connections between a Shard and their host, not when that connection works under a completely different principle in a completely different manner(advanced physics rather then using the warp to flip physics the finger).

 

[Major Session]

Anyway I have a few questions for the author mostly based on how you're going to interpret Necron tech in this environment. But before any of those questions I must know (and I apologize if it's been covered before) is Taylor's Necron tech power Shard-based/entity or Rob based, because the sheer thought that an entity visited the 40K universe (And didn't get owned in all ways) is utterly terrifying.

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I don't know about the rest but @Noxturne90 already said that the anwser to where Taylor gets her powers from is a spoiler.

So possibly it's an OCP, either a Necron gambit or one of the C'Tan fooling around, maybe trying to recruit a new servant race.

Maybe a shard based power that's got out of control, like the Aeon shard did in A Cloudy Path.

Or maybe it's a shard working as intended and the Entities just took one look at 40K and decided to sit back and watch, attaching the odd shard to purely gather data before they noped out of there.

Maybe it's even more AU and something the Necron's or one of C'Tan did caused Eden's crash.

Only Noxturne knows.

The good news is there won't be a Khepri, nowhere just going to get C'tan Taylor The Endless Swarm

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Okay, I really want to see that now. At the battle of Golden Morning, as capes desperatly defend against the rampaging Scion, from out of the ether in a burst of green light comes an armada of strange, crescent shaped ships. And there, floating above them is a figure cast in gold metal, draped in midnight shawls around whom buzzes and endless shifting swarm of glittering black scarads. She is the newest C'tan, Star God, she is E'Ingh Shaul, The Endless Swarm.

 

[Shadowcub]

Take your tech and go away and refine it...........the PRT are like the majority of my family, they suck the joy out of life.
Hoping like hell not everyone running around with her stuff.

 

[hunter4000695]

Um no it shouldn't. Null Field Matrixes block out the Warp, they work by admitting an energy field that disrupts a psykers connection to the warp. They shouldn't do anything at all to block connections between a Shard and their host, not when that connection works under a completely different principle in a completely different manner(advanced physics rather then using the warp to flip physics the finger).

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So she would need to adjust it to work on shard based connections since like you said it was originally designed to disrupt the connections between psykers and the warp, basically acting as a radar jammer? I suppose, but that's why I asked the author because they are GOD when it comes to their fan fiction. For all I know the author would want Null Field Matrixes to cause it to rain peeps. (MMMMMM.... peeps)

 

[Wobulator]

So she would need to adjust it to work on shard based connections since like you said it was originally designed to disrupt the connections between psykers and the warp, basically acting as a radar jammer? I suppose, but that's why I asked the author because they are GOD when it comes to their fan fiction. For all I know the author would want Null Field Matrixes to cause it to rain peeps. (MMMMMM.... peeps)

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Except that's like asking the magnetosphere to block an asteroid. They're completely different things.

Anyway I have a few questions for the author mostly based on how you're going to interpret Necron tech in this environment. But before any of those questions I must know (and I apologize if it's been covered before) is Taylor's Necron tech power Shard-based/entity or Rob based, because the sheer thought that an entity visited the 40K universe (And didn't get owned in all ways) is utterly terrifying.

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You... do know that Scion was casually busting worlds, right? And forces that would've busted worlds did jack shit to him?

 

[hunter4000695]

I don't know about the rest but @Noxturne90 already said that the anwser to where Taylor gets her powers from is a spoiler.

So possibly it's an OCP, either a Necron gambit or one of the C'Tan fooling around, maybe trying to recruit a new servant race.

Maybe a shard based power that's got out of control, like the Aeon shard did in A Cloudy Path.

Or maybe it's a shard working as intended and the Entities just took one look at 40K and decided to sit back and watch, attaching the odd shard to purely gather data before they noped out of there.

Maybe it's even more AU and something the Necron's or one of C'Tan did caused Eden's crash.

Only Noxturne knows.

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I'm placing my bet on Mork since he is already done this before in Herald of the Void by Nim Maj. when those orcs want a good WAAAGH there going to get it.

 

[GhostKing 666]

So she would need to adjust it to work on shard based connections since like you said it was originally designed to disrupt the connections between psykers and the warp, basically acting as a radar jammer? I suppose, but that's why I asked the author because they are GOD when it comes to their fan fiction. For all I know the author would want Null Field Matrixes to cause it to rain peeps. (MMMMMM.... peeps)

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An experienced and established Taylor could figure out a way to block shards. If she had access to data on how the shards worked as well as Haywires technology to reverse engineer and study. And probably had Dragon with her helping. Necrons are familiar with alternate dimensions and technology based on such, they aren't familiar with alternate universes and the technology based on such. It's the difference between being able to move to different floors in a single building and being able to move to a different building entirely or even navigate the entire city without getting hopelessly lost.

 

[hunter4000695]

You... do know that Scion was casually busting worlds, right? And forces that would've busted worlds did jack shit to him?

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I have no doubt that Scion has the power to hold his own in the 40K universe however he is stupid and stupidity combined with Chaos gods are never a good thing.

Except that's like asking the magnetosphere to block an asteroid. They're completely different things.

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Yeah I've got nothing on that one since I couldn't find the article I read a few years back about a attempted project that NASA was looking into for redirecting small metallic asteroids/objects through the use of magnetic fields to prevent micro meteor impacts. However I'm not sure that analogy necessarily works since magnetosphere isn't a technology which could acts as a starting block for something that could be modified.

An experienced and established Taylor could figure out a way to block shards. If she had access to data on how the shards worked as well as Haywires technology to reverse engineer and study. And probably had Dragon with her helping. Necrons are familiar with alternate dimensions and technology based on such, they aren't familiar with alternate universes and the technology based on such. It's the difference between being able to move to different floors in a single building and being able to move to a different building entirely or even navigate the entire city without getting hopelessly lost.

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so basically it would be viable for a well-established end tier Taylor

 

[GhostKing 666]

so basically it would be viable for a well-established end tier Taylor

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At that point Scion would be the primary threat and he's going to be simply better then Taylor when it comes to shenanigans involving alternate universes. After all, everything she could study to learn about alternate universe based physics is knowledge that he not only already knows, the technology Taylor would be studying and reverse engineering having come from him and Eden, but it wouldn't be everything he knows, which would give him a huge leg up over Taylor in that field.

 

[Wobulator]

I have no doubt that Scion has the power to hold his own in the 40K universe however he is stupid and stupidity combined with Chaos gods are never a good thing.

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He isn't actually that stupid, you know. Slow to adapt, yes. Stupid, though? That's a much larger stretch.
Of course, Scion also could've encountered the Warhammer universe before M2, where the Chaos gods actually finished forming.

 

[GhostKing 666]

Scion's got to many Thinker shards to be stupid, he's just not really, sentient? sapient? One of those two and it handicaps him.

 

[Wobulator]

He's both. He can clearly feel emotion, meaning he's sentient, and he has sound judgement, meaning he's sapient.

 

[hunter4000695]

Slow to adapt, yes. Stupid, though? That's a much larger stretch

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he's just not really, sentient? sapient? One of those two and it handicaps him.

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And that's where the chaos gods are going to get him/it. The chaos gods are capable of tempting/corrupting individuals that are fully aware of them and what they are capable of. Scion thinker shards are like computer programs, self adapting/learning programs but still computer programs. That's his biggest problem, he slow to adapt which will provide an opening for chaos. adding emotions to the factor makes it even worse since the Chaos gods are masters at manipulating emotions and some of them draw powered directly from specific emotions.
When I think of Scion entering the 40K universe I would imagine that it would be much like a whale being attacked by cookie-cutter sharks, you have the the gods both chaos and the others attacking Scion which would more than likely cause him to flee before too much damage was taken.

She is the newest C'tan, Star God, she is E'Ingh Shaul, The Endless Swarm.

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I can see it now, there would be Scion floating in his majestic glory and attached to the top of his head would be a chibified C'tan skitter eating him like all Star god do and the best part is Scion wouldn't even notice since a few stellar masses is such a small fraction of a percent of his total mass.

 

[Wobulator]

And that's where the chaos gods are going to get him/it. The chaos gods are capable of tempting/corrupting individuals that are fully aware of them and what they are capable of. Scion thinker shards are like computer programs, self adapting/learning programs but still computer programs. That's his biggest problem, he slow to adapt which will provide an opening for chaos. adding emotions to the factor makes it even worse since the Chaos gods are masters at manipulating emotions and some of them draw powered directly from specific emotions.

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Would they even care about Scion? He probably doesn't have any Warp presence, like the Tau, and Chaos basically ignores them.

Plus, again, there's the very real possibility that Scion would've entered the Warhammer-verse before the Chaos gods formed.

 

[OSRFanatic0]

Am I the only one to think that Taylor Triggered as a C'tan?

 

[Sigurd]

Xenosiders

The Imperial Wards

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10/10 would read the hell out of.

Meanwhile, no one else in the city has any idea what the fuck is going on.

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Yeah, well. Screw over the tinker that built the tech in the first place and see how well that goes for you and your precious city.

Well, it would probably go better for the city but you and the PRT will have a bad time when you get annexed from the city by someone who could do your job better than you. With death bots and lazers. Even blackjack.

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And then she gets triumvirate-stomped, if she can't build up fast enough, and the city descends into anarchy because 'holy shit a parahuman warlord just took over', and the city she grew up in dies.

Believe it or not, everything can't be solved with force and praying the tinker with the insanely good tech won't be equally insane. It seems to be a reoccurring thing, with Dragon being the exception.

 

[ninjafish]

At that point Scion would be the primary threat and he's going to be simply better then Taylor when it comes to shenanigans involving alternate universes. After all, everything she could study to learn about alternate universe based physics is knowledge that he not only already knows, the technology Taylor would be studying and reverse engineering having come from him and Eden, but it wouldn't be everything he knows, which would give him a huge leg up over Taylor in that field.

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in the end scion kinda sucks at applying his knowledge though.


or creating new things from it.

that's why they loan their powers to other species, because their to dumb to innovate on their own.

 

[Wobulator]

Am I the only one to think that Taylor Triggered as a C'tan?

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Nah. The C'tan would've just killed everything, and they didn't actually make any tech or create necrodermis.