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Creating an Empire (Multicross God SI)

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Mannan said:
So instead of choosing to become a guarding force, his followers instead chose to go on a crusade that will last centuries, take them generations, and probably gut their numbers, all for the sake of purifying what is essentially the entrance to hell?

Yeah, that sounds about right for followers of a god inspired by the Emperor of Man.
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I was afraid I'd gotten the hidden idea behind this whole thing wrong.

Thanks for telling me I got it right.
 
Wobulator said:
Is that really a surprise? Humanity was stuck on the swords-and-bows phase for more than three thousand years.
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Granted the quality of metal used improved during that time.

That said, when you have holy blessings protecting you and your enemies are inhuman demons, muskets end up being even harder to introduce. Sure canons would be pretty good on a battle field, but that is it.

After all, early guns became popular not because they were superior to the bow. It was because how rapidly you could train up a large force in them. When all of your men are professional soldiers with years of training and divine blessings protecting them, early version guns are simply too horrible to be worth using.
 
Nekomata said:
Granted the quality of metal used improved during that time.

That said, when you have holy blessings protecting you and your enemies are inhuman demons, muskets end up being even harder to introduce. Sure canons would be pretty good on a battle field, but that is it.

After all, early guns became popular not because they were superior to the bow. It was because how rapidly you could train up a large force in them. When all of your men are professional soldiers with years of training and divine blessings protecting them, early version guns are simply too horrible to be worth using.
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Especially considering that most of the 'big league' enemies are divine champions of varying alignment and can tank nukes with little difficulty.

...but maybe having guns wouldn't be such a bad idea...
 
Volantis said:
The time skip works well. However, 700 years have gone by and they are still fighting with swords and bows?
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Nekomata said:
Granted the quality of metal used improved during that time.

That said, when you have holy blessings protecting you and your enemies are inhuman demons, muskets end up being even harder to introduce. Sure canons would be pretty good on a battle field, but that is it.

After all, early guns became popular not because they were superior to the bow. It was because how rapidly you could train up a large force in them. When all of your men are professional soldiers with years of training and divine blessings protecting them, early version guns are simply too horrible to be worth using.
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Indeed and besides the crusaders went there asnholy warriors... they didn't go there to find out how to split the atom and make a nuke and then why make one when you have people that can make an even stronger attack repeatedly. Magic hampers technological advancement quite a lot ,as people will focus on how to make those that have magic stronger and how to distribute that instead of finding new ways(harder ways) of achieving similar results when the method you're using is working just as advertized , because let's face it, it's easier to make a spell that shoots a few hundred earth bullets and teach a few mages how to use it than to make a rifle ,bullets for that rifle, spare parts for that rifle, making that rifle superior to the spell and then teaching someone how to use and maintain it.

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But still, I'm gonna need to invest in some worshippers churning out guns.

I think.

Because there's some part of me that thinks going into the 40K-verse without any dakka is gonna be the stupidest thing ever...
 
Older-than-Time said:
But still, I'm gonna need to invest in some worshippers churning out guns.

I think.

Because there's some part of me that thinks going into the 40K-verse without any dakka is gonna be the stupidest thing ever...
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Make sure to make Flamers and figure out Volkite Weapons when you get there, you'd be surprised how many of the problems there can be solved with a ton of fire and whatever Volkites are.
 
Older-than-Time said:
But still, I'm gonna need to invest in some worshippers churning out guns.

I think.

Because there's some part of me that thinks going into the 40K-verse without any dakka is gonna be the stupidest thing ever...
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melee is a respectable and tested strategy in WH40K look at the Khornates or the space marines or the tyranids even some eldar do it but melee weapons there are either enchanted and/or have the word chain or power before them so it might be pretty good that you invest in everything really
 
Wobulator said:
Is that really a surprise? Humanity was stuck on the swords-and-bows phase for more than three thousand years.
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Humanity was stuck with low-tech for so long, because progress was haphazard and unguided. Progress picked up when the scientific method was introduced in the 16th century.

Here we have a god who knows what is possible, so he should be able to guide his people appropriately.

Nekomata said:
That said, when you have holy blessings protecting you and your enemies are inhuman demons, muskets end up being even harder to introduce. Sure canons would be pretty good on a battle field, but that is it.
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Older-than-Time said:
Especially considering that most of the 'big league' enemies are divine champions of varying alignment and can tank nukes with little difficulty.
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Why can muskets, bullets or nukes not be blessed? In Monty Python, they had a Holy Hand Grenade :D.

Also why stop at a musket? With the guidance of a god, it shouldn't be too difficult to make repeating rifles. Humans went from swords to thermonuclear weapons in much, much less than 700 years.

Virian said:
they didn't go there to find out how to split the atom and make a nuke
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Here, a god guides them or if not them then another section of his population.

Virian said:
it's easier to make a spell that shoots a few hundred earth bullets and teach a few mages how to use it than to make a rifle ,bullets for that rifle, spare parts for that rifle, making that rifle superior to the spell and then teaching someone how to use and maintain it.
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This depends how the author implements the magic system: If a spell, that is equivalent to a rifle, can be learned in a few days by nearly everybody in the population, guns make less sense. However, if a mage has to train for years or the magic is limited by whatever (e.g. only certain people can use it, a mage's mana gets exhausted...), then guns make sense.
 
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This feels like it came a bit out of nowhere. Why the urge to crusade? Can he speak on the throne or is he only able to send blessings?
 
Volantis said:
Why can muskets, bullets or nukes not be blessed? In Monty Python, they had a Holy Hand Grenade :D.

Also why stop at a musket? With the guidance of a god, it shouldn't be too difficult to make repeating rifles. Humans went from swords to thermonuclear weapons in much, much less than 700 years.
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I think this has to do with the fact that every single blessed bullet will take energy to bless and once fired and used it is useless, but if one blesses a sword it can be used repeatedly.

And he might be a god, but progress is really difficult if you are fighting a crusade 24/7 with no infrastructure worth a damn due to the land itself trying to kill you.
 
Mannan said:
I think this has to do with the fact that every single blessed bullet will take energy to bless and once fired and used it is useless, but if one blesses a sword it can be used repeatedly.

And he might be a god, but progress is really difficult if you are fighting a crusade 24/7 with no infrastructure worth a damn due to the land itself trying to kill you.
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Yes, I'm trying my best but Crusades in the equivalent of Lordran are difficult to succeed in within a millennia
 
shade argost said:
Oh, okay.

Also for guns thing, instead of blessing every single bullet you create a holy (and possibly living/growing) metal that they use to create them.
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I've considered making 'divine steel' a thing, as an analogue of that weird shit they used in Percy Jackson.

Also looking into 'mythical' metals right now.
 
Percy Jackson had Celestial Bronze and Imperial Gold. They worked extremely well against monsters but were harmless to 'mortals'.
 
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