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    • I freaking love the idea that the Moirai/Norns/Fates have decided that they dislike Dumbledore and the decisions he has(or will) make and are giving Trelawney really petty prophecies about Dumbledore in response.
     
    Oh my, Dumbledore's full of bullshit... so the Fates decided his exterior also needs to be covered in it? That's rather amusing.
     
    Drahcir said:
    Poor Albus, being constantly shat on becuase of the actions of all his more dickish counterparts.
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    From context, this sounds like it's taking place shortly after Albus consigned Harry Potter to years of abuse and allowed an innocent man to be thrown in a torturous prison without trial. So Albus has already been party to some pretty dickish things.
     
    FaerieKnight79 said:
    From context, this sounds like it's taking place shortly after Albus consigned Harry Potter to years of abuse and allowed an innocent man to be thrown in a torturous prison without trial. So Albus has already been party to some pretty dickish things.
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    I mean, if the beings feeding Trelawney prophecies can see/make the future, then they might feel justified punishing him for things he's going to do along with things he's done. If it's the Greek Fates, then it's practically guaranteed for them to be unreasonable like that.
     
    Sneak. Dumbledore, the incarnation of Biff from Back to the Future.
    "...and you will encounter a young Michael J Fox ...and there will be absolute Bullshit."
     
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    I wonder if Harry ran into a 'Justice' Demon after he figured out Dumbledore has been giving him the mushroom treatment and wished that Dumbledore had to deal with all of the bullshit instead of Harry. =)

    Perhaps after enough politicking, he has to literally deal with the bullshit required?
     
    On the one hand, he did essentially consign 2 innocents to their own personal hells (Harry with Durzkaban, Sirius with Azkaban). On the other hand, needing to constantly dig yourself out of literal bullshit is kind of a bit too much. Though I will admit, if this isn't a sign that someone up there hates him, then I have no clue what could be.
     
    Euden said:
    On the one hand, he did essentially consign 2 innocents to their own personal hells (Harry with Durzkaban, Sirius with Azkaban). On the other hand, needing to constantly dig yourself out of literal bullshit is kind of a bit too much.
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    No, honestly, it really, really, really isn't too much.

    And that's my opinion.

    I often argued the pro-Dumbledore viewpoint just as the devil's advocate against my late wife.

    You do not want to know her opinion regarding Dumbledore. I'll just say that when she started college she intended to be an elementary school teacher, and she had opinions regarding so-called school authorities that would abandon an infant to abusers.

    That's as much as I can say without descending into frankly scatological terms which would still be sugar-coating her opinion.
     
    sdwood said:
    No, honestly, it really, really, really isn't too much.
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    Yeah, remembering that one of his very first lines in canon is refusing to heal or even treat (aka clean and bandage) an infant with a bleeding head wound, just before abandoning it on a doorstep at midnight (in November no less), no quantity of literal bullshit is sufficient to cover even that, never mind everything else.
     
    Even if you LIKE Dumbledore as a character, his actions and inactions in canon suggest one of a few things. Ether he's dangerously inept and should never have gotten the amount of authority he has, he's egotistical as hell and doesn't think about the consequences of any actions, or he's deliberately running a Nature vs Nurture experiment using Harry to prove to himself that Tom Riddle was simply born bad and was evil by nature. Hell, in book 7 he basically admits to Harry that he'd been setting up Harry to die the entire time.

    Granted, that scene is a little ambiguous, and it MIGHT not actually be the spirit of Albus Too-Bloody-Many-Names Dumbledore. But it is implied to actually be Dumbledore's spirit.
     
    I tend to go with 'Dumbledore is out of his depth due to too many jobs and honours being piled on him, but he's stuck because he can't find people who are both competent and trustworthy to take up the ones that he wants to get rid of.' He may have been training the Potters to eventually take over one or two, and perhaps others, but they died in the war and he didn't find replacements who weren't literal children before he died.
     
    For canon, I tend to think it's a combination of too many full time political positions he's unqualified for and an ego that insists only Dumbledore knows what to do, let alone can be trusted with said information. He's not a bad person in canon, I think. But he listens to his ego far too often without stopping to consider consequences or if maybe someone else might have qualifications which would let them deal with a situation better.

    That said, I've used Evil Manipulative and Idiot Manipulative Dumbledore in a few stories before. As well as Inept Dumbledore.
     
    Prince Charon said:
    I tend to go with 'Dumbledore is out of his depth due to too many jobs and honours being piled on him, but he's stuck because he can't find people who are both competent and trustworthy to take up the ones that he wants to get rid of.' He may have been training the Potters to eventually take over one or two, and perhaps others, but they died in the war and he didn't find replacements who weren't literal children before he died.
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    Except that straight up doesn't explain Harry getting dumped on a doorstep in the middle of the night in autumn.
    Nor does it explain Sirius not getting a trial originally, nor Dumbledore not getting Sirius a trial or opportunity to clear his name after Third Year but before Voldemort's return. It's not like there aren't truth serums or ways to view memories. And if nothing else, I'd expect that Dumbledore could arrange for a quiet interview and fair hearing with DMLE Director Bones and/or other Aurors Dumbledore could influence about Pettigrew's betrayal in exchange for knowledge on how Sirius escaped Azkaban. She'd likely want to know how Sirius pulled that off before he got Kissed anyways.

    And an overworked Dumbledore wouldn't have wasted time taking a broom to the Ministry at the end of First Year.

    It also doesn't explain the "lessons" Dumbledore gave Harry during Sixth Year.

    Or his indulgence of Snape.

    Or any number of other things.


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    Canon does not support a Dumbledore who is both competent and good/well-meaning. It supports a Dumbledore that is either utterly incompetent/mentally unfit* or is both competent and malicious to some extent.

    *it's possibly that he was competent at one point and has been slipping into mental infirmity for quite some time, but maintaining his positions by coasting on his reputation, though. But that would have needed to start well before canon began.
     
    Kytheros said:
    *it's possibly that he was competent at one point and has been slipping into mental infirmity for quite some time, but maintaining his positions by coasting on his reputation, though. But that would have needed to start well before canon began.
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    You mean such as with actions like "light myself on fire to scare a young bully into being a good person"? Or "form a resistance group to fight a terrorist group that kills wantonly, then keep said resistance group to only using stunning spells that are easily countered and thus leave all enemies in the battle"?
     
    FaerieKnight79 said:
    You mean such as with actions like "light myself on fire to scare a young bully into being a good person"? Or "form a resistance group to fight a terrorist group that kills wantonly, then keep said resistance group to only using stunning spells that are easily countered and thus leave all enemies in the battle"?
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    He lit young Tom's stuff on fire, not himself. And that could theoretically be justified as lighting stuff Tom stole on fire, IIRC.

    But those certainly don't help create a positive interpretation of canon.
     
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