Cleaning Up After The Ancients (Stargate SI)

Chapter 12 - They Followed Me Home
Chapter 12 - They Followed Me Home​


"We had to pry it out of the wall with a crowbar." Shepherd told them as he held out the potentia for McKay to take.

"You better not have damaged it." McKay muttered as he gingerly accepted the device.

Eventus rolled his eyes at McKay's meaningless griping, since there was no way the man didn't know it was a lot more likely that the crystalline structure of the potentia would damage a steel crowbar then the other way around.

"I was not sure you would be able to retrieve the potentia without the rest of the keystones." Allina offered as she stared intently at the object McKay was holding, the young woman having come back around in a somewhat twitchy state about fifteen minutes after Shepherd and Ford had lowered themselves into the chamber.

"Eh." Shepherd admitted with a shrug as he began helping Ford pack up their gear. "Don't think the guys who built the place were expecting someone to be able to just point out where they had hidden it."

"I'd say it was probably purposeful." Eventus pointed out as he began pulling himself back up to his feet. "They wouldn't want to dig up the keystone's every time they wanted to take the potentia out for something after all. So the general ease of removal if you knew where it was, was probably an intentional feature of the chamber's design."

He held out a hand to help Allina up, and the woman stared at his hand for a moment before twitching slightly and shaking her head.

Brushing the dirt off the back of his pants, he turned to Shepherd. "So back to the castle then?"

Shepherd shook his head while surveying the area cautiously with his eyes. "I want to get the ZPM back to Atlantis before the Genii show up."

"You cannot leave with the potentia." Allina objected in sudden concern as her eyes flicked over to him. "The Ancestor… We need… There are things that must be done first."

"I'm sure it'll be alright." Shepherd offered as he shot the woman a somewhat awkward smile. "Evan's not the type to hold it against you, right Evan?"

"Nope." Eventus agreed, though he was a little worried the Genii might take their annoyance out on Allina and her people. "But if you want I can stay for a night? Give you all some time to decide on what you want to ask for?"

"That's really not the best idea." Shepherd said with a wince as Ford and Teyla walked over. "The Genii don't really like us."

"By which he means they've tried to kill us multiple times." McKay snarked as he finished stowing the ZPM in his bag.

Shepherd glared at McKay. "I was trying not to alarm Allina. But yes. So unless those orbs of yours can also shoot lasers…"

"They can't." Eventus admitted apologetically as he cringed slightly in remembrance of those particular test runs. "There were stabilization issues with adding a weapon to that particular design that made it impractically dangerous."

"Then it's probably best if we aren't around when they show up." Shepherd finished.

A number of different emotions flashed across Allina's face before settling on a firm determination that felt moderately foreboding for some reason Eventus couldn't quite put his finger on.

"If you must do this to keep the Ancestor and Potentia safe, then at the very least I must insist on us coming with you back to the city of the Ancestors."

"Perhaps we could ask Elizebeth, John." Teyla put forward as she gave the man a somewhat hopeful glance. "It would be something of a fair trade for the ZPM at the very least."

Atlantis certainly had the empty space to take on Allina's small group, and from what Eventus recalled about the importance current day Athosian culture seemed to place on not just taking things from others without payment he could certainly see the appeal.

Unfortunately from the look on his face, it was pretty clear that Shepherd wanted to object to the idea on principle, likely only holding himself back from doing so because it was Teyla who had come out on support of it.

"How many of you are there?" Shepherd asked Allina in a tone that suggested he was very much hoping for a number that make the decision easier.

Allina glanced in the direction of the stargate with a frown before shaking her head almost pityingly. "Not counting Sanir. There are only six of us."

"Only six?" Shepherd muttered in surprise, a feeling Eventus could appreciate in this case given he had honestly gotten the sense that when she talked about her people she had meant all of them.

The Daganian woman hunched in on herself slightly at the question. "The recent culling was quite thorough, as it stands, the seven of us were the only survivors within the valley."

That was unfortunate on several different levels, though Eventus supposed it explained why the group just happened to be trying to dig up a two hundred year old legend at the same general point in time the Atlantis expedition had shown up.

"I suppose it wouldn't hurt to ask Elizabeth." Shepherd agreed with the slightest tinge of guilt in his voice as he studiously avoided looking Allina in the eye.

"The more the merrier." McKay added impatiently. "But shouldn't we be going?"

"I'll take point." Shepherd announced in seeming agreement as he motioned for the rest of them to begin walking to the gate. "Ford, you watch our six. And keep an eye out for Sanir just in case."

Frowning, Eventus took a moment to check the drone he had set to following the woman. "She's back at the castle, looks like she pulled a handful of projectile weapons out of somewhere and is handing them out to the rest of Allina's people."

Shepherd gave him an odd look before shaking his head lightly and motioning for everybody to start moving. "When we get back you need to show my people how to use those things."

"Sure." Eventus agreed, it was doubtful anyone but Shepherd himself would be able to use the controllers mental interface to anywhere near the same degree Eventus himself was able to. But them being able to use it even at just the base manual control level would be nothing but useful for his purposes of locating things his people had left behind that had gotten buried in the intervening millennia. "I assume you want me to forward your people a copy of the user manual too?"


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Author's Notes: Mark's "Bringing home cultists" off the bingo list of actions the other Ancients would disapprove of Eventus doing.
 
Shepherd gave him an odd look before shaking his head lightly and motioning for everybody to start moving. "When we get back you need to show my people how to use those things."

"Sure." Eventus agreed, it was doubtful anyone but Shepherd himself would be able to use the controllers mental interface to anywhere near the same degree Eventus himself was able to. But them being able to use it even at just the base manual control level would be nothing but useful for his purposes of locating things his people had left behind that had gotten buried in the intervening millennia. "I assume you want me to forward your people a copy of the user manual too?"
I love how much you really are making Shepherd's careful word choice and understanding of nuance here very clear.

I've said it before but it's nice to see Shepherd being shown as actually as smart as he is.

"You cannot leave with the potentia." Allina objected in sudden concern as her eyes flicked over to him. "The Ancestor… We need… There are things that must be done first."



"If you must do this to keep the Ancestor and Potentia safe, then at the very least I must insist on us coming with you back to the city of the Ancestors."
Allina absolutely wants to introduce the return of the Ancestors to the rest of her people, and to get the wealth being stored as tribute for Eventus and any other things the Order had been keeping safeguarded I imagine because you don't have a 10,000 year old Stargate capable Mystery Cult without picking up some additional knock-knacks and objects of importance but more importantly the Order almost certainly has some very decent records on the Wraith and maps of other worlds and Gate addresses likely gathered from multiple worlds since they had managed the Stargate for their world.

But above all is that Allina can see how Eventus is not a member of the team and he has already unknowingly told her he is the only one of the Ancestors left. He needs someone on his side on Atlantis and she is going to make sure he has someone in his corner.
 
Well the earth humans don't have a monopoly on atlantis, so unless they want even more people to hate them, they should bring some other cultures back, if only for the safe haven atlantis is currently, from the wraith. Eventus can likely set up access restrictions easily, and keep them in living quarters and common areas, and block access to experimental / scientific areas to his gene sequence (ancestor genes) requiring him for access.

I still think he needs to take more influence over his city, and not let weir dictate everything, especially since she's overly civilian in her viewpoint, and they're at war. Eventus for high chancellor!
 
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Well if they wanted an opinion on what he does with the house they should have come back with the milk :V
Exactly! If they don't like it they're free to just keep on doing nothing. Because really, that's all they can do other then nag at him.


Or that ascended lady larping as a Hologram could have woken him up 1,000 years early :p
If she tries here, he's going to be standing right there next to Danial so he can chew her out for all the problems they left behind. :lol:


I love how much you really are making Shepherd's careful word choice and understanding of nuance here very clear.

I've said it before but it's nice to see Shepherd being shown as actually as smart as he is.
Thanks!

But above all is that Allina can see how Eventus is not a member of the team and he has already unknowingly told her he is the only one of the Ancestors left. He needs someone on his side on Atlantis and she is going to make sure he has someone in his corner.
Well, yes, when her people adjust.


Yeah, Eventus needs backup, I only hope the lack of it is why he is being such a pushover.
So far they've been doing what he want's, so there isn't really anything for him to object about.
 
So far they've been doing what he want's, so there isn't really anything for him to object about.

Quantity also has quality of it's own. The Atlantis Expedition and Earth can bring not just more manpower to Atlantis, but also more toys. I'm sure having access to the Deadalus will give Eventus a good option to take care of a number of issues.

Long term if he does anything at all to help the SGC even indirectly fight the Ori, that could also benefit the Atlantis Expedition, especially if he does anything that results in either the Prometheus or Korolev not being destroyed in action.

I'm remembering season 4 of SGA off hand when both the Deadalus and Apollo arrived in Atlantis and Carter made a comment about about never needing both ships before. Sheppard and McKay if I remember correctly didn't say anything but kinda glanced at each for a second, likely each thinking of a number of cases where they wish they'd had a second 304 on hand, and probably a few cases where even one ship wasn't available.
 
Chapter 13 - The Little Details
Chapter 13 - The Little Details​


"Only six?" Weir repeated into his ear, the radio signal coming through the open gate with the same clarity John had come to expect by this point.

"Yea." He returned, only to pause as he remembered that Weir was one of those people who tended to prefer every detail up front. "Well, seven if you count Sanir, but after she sold us out to the Genii, Allina apparently doesn't."

"So this Sanir was a spy for the Genii?" Weir asked after a moment of silence.

"Don't think so." John confessed, the few words he'd exchanged with the woman suggesting more of an opportunist bent. "My guess is the Genii rolled in a few weeks after the culling and offered to help out the survivors."

Mainly because some of the group's clothing had been a bit too modern looking for the pre-industrial society they had claimed to be from. Not that he'd normally think much of that outside a mental footnote, but the 'around the camp' dresses he'd seen Sanir and Allina wearing had also had a very 'Genii' style to them.

"And the chances the rest will decide they'd rather side with the Genii?" Weir put forward.

John grimaced, glad Weir wasn't actually here to see it given she'd have taken it for more than it was. "Before Evan decided to pull his Jesus act with Allina? I'd probably have put it at fifty fifty. After? Ninety ten in our favor."

He was honestly more worried about Evan given everything that had happened. Because he'd seen looks like Allina had been shooting the Ancient before on several of the Athosians when they'd first arrived, and more often than not it had ended with people sharing a bed together who really shouldn't have been.

"Well, it is technically their people's ZPM."

"Yep." He agreed.

"And it is our fault the Wraith woke up when they did."

"I've kind of been working up to mentioning that." He confessed, more than a little glad the others had followed suit. "Didn't want a repeat of our first run-in with the Genii."

"So I suppose six more people wouldn't be overly impactful to our supply situation."

"Least so long as we keep them away from the coffee." He added, still wondering who's bright idea it was to send a bunch of soldiers and scientists halfway across the universe without a few actual coffee plants to use to set up their own supply.

"Yes, well, hopefully that won't be a problem for much longer now that we have a ZPM." Weir returned with a sigh. "But you have the okay to bring them to the city."

"Great, we'll be sending McKay back right away with the ZPM then. Just make sure he doesn't try to plug it in."

Because he'd seen the look Evan had given McKay every time the scientist had mentioned his plan to disable the city's recall signal, and it hadn't been one filled with confidence in McKay's ability to actually do so.

"Though that reminds me." He continued with a frown. "That dart still on course?"

"Yes." Weir admitted in an odd tone. "The city hasn't stopped counting down its distance to lunar orbit since Eventus set up the automatic defense program."

Weir gave a light laugh across the radio. "If I didn't know better, I'd almost think it was annoyed the dart is taking so long to get here."

"Let's hope not. The last thing we need is Atlantis deciding we're its new live in maids. Anyways, see you in a bit, Shepherd out."

Cutting off his radio, he walked back to the others who were gathered in wait around the DHD.

"So good news." John announced as he rejoined them. "Weir okayed the six of you coming back to Atlantis with us."

Not that he ever really expected she wouldn't given the circumstances, but this wasn't one of the times he wanted to guarantee things only to turn out to be wrong.

"So does that mean she's going to send over a gate ship to help them pack up?" Evan asked as he glanced over to the still active gate.

While that would certainly have been nice, it ran into the unfortunate problem they always seemed to run into when the idea of using the Puddle Jumpers came up.

"Not enough pilots for that." John admitted with a grimace. "Outside of me we have two that can more or less fly in a straight line, and one who very much can't."

Beckett really was his own worst enemy when it came to utilizing neural interfaces.

"Also we call them Puddle Jumpers." He added in to keep McKay from trying to insist they go back to his original idea now that he discovered the Ancients had apparently called it the same thing.

"I like it." Evan said as he took a few steps over to the DHD and pulled out the thing John was pretty sure at this point was the Ancient equivalent of the tablet McKay always carried around. "Good at naming things my people were not."

John turned to McKay and motioned to the gate. "McKay, you're clear to take the ZPM back to Atlantis. We're gonna stay behind till Allina can gather up her people."

"Ford." He continued as McKay all but ran through the open gate. "Stay here and dial up that desert planet we visited a couple weeks back and just keep the connection going till we get back. That way the Genii can't dial in."

Evan frowned suddenly, looking down at his tablet for a moment before hooking it back into this belt. "Okay, I'll admit that's a simpler solution than the one I had planned."

That felt to John like something that could be either good or bad for them, but it was probably better to find out just what it was now then have the Ancient try it again later and leave them out of luck. "And that would be?"

"I was going to try and set up a block on incoming wormholes till we next dialed out." Evan explained, which would be a moderately useful ability to have, if John didn't sense a but in there.

"Try?"

"The Wraith alterations preventing most forms of wireless access are still in place." Evan said with a motion to the DHD. "So I was about to attempt initiating one utilizing manual access to the dialing units hardware."

"That sounds like something that might take awhile." John said as he gave Ford the nod to go ahead with his order.

"Which is why I'm not doing it." Evan agreed as he shot John a grin. "The maintenance team had a saying, try not to overthink things that might have relatively simple solutions."

"We call it the KISS principle." John offered as he began walking back to the castle ruins. "Stands for keep it simple, stupid."


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Author's Notes: Next chapter, we return to the city for consequences.
 
"Don't think so." John confessed, the few words he'd exchanged with the woman suggesting more of an opportunist bent. "My guess is the Genii rolled in a few weeks after the culling and offered to help out the survivors."
Honestly makes sense for how a group like the Genii operate. Very US like in terms of soft power projection from possessing a stable industrial base with a backing from having a superior military.

And the chances the rest will decide they'd rather side with the Genii?" Weir put forward.

John grimaced, glad Weir wasn't actually here to see it given she'd have taken it for more than it was. "Before Evan decided to pull his Jesus act with Allina? I'd probably have put it at fifty fifty. After? Ninety ten in our favor."
John likely is still mentally grappling with Eventus' really being an Ancient, with all the actual factual power that entails from the SG1 reports.

"Well, it is technically their people's ZPM."

"Yep." He agreed.

"And it is our fault the Wraith woke up when they did."

"I've kind of been working up to mentioning that." He confessed, more than a little glad the others had followed suit. "Didn't want a repeat of our first run-in with the Genii."
Love the bit of back and forth of a decision already made but still needing to feel yourself say why you're making it.

And yeah, telling everyone you accidentally woke up the Wraith early and got tens of thousands of people killed requires a delicate approach.


Because he'd seen the look Evan had given McKay every time the scientist had mentioned his plan to disable the city's recall signal, and it hadn't been one filled with confidence in McKay's ability to actually do so.
Eventus really wants to keep his city intact please and thank you, and he does not want to explain why McKay was reduced to a red paste by the emergency defenses.

"That dart still on course?"

"Yes." Weir admitted in an odd tone. "The city hasn't stopped counting down its distance to lunar orbit since Eventus set up the automatic defense program."

Weir gave a light laugh across the radio. "If I didn't know better, I'd almost think it was annoyed the dart is taking so long to get here."

"Let's hope not. The last thing we need is Atlantis deciding we're its new live in maids. Anyways, see you in a bit, Shepherd out."
Ancient AI still on a general War-Footing, very much programmed with the aggression I imagine the Asurans had. It REALLY wants to kill some Wraith.

"Also we call them Puddle Jumpers." He added in to keep McKay from trying to insist they go back to his original idea now that he discovered the Ancients had apparently called it the same thing.

"I like it." Evan said as he took a few steps over to the DHD and pulled out the thing John was pretty sure at this point was the Ancient equivalent of the tablet McKay always carried around. "Good at naming things my people were not."
The normal problem with scientists and engineers. Names as descriptors rather than shorthand.

"Ford." He continued as McKay all but ran through the open gate. "Stay here and dial up that desert planet we visited a couple weeks back and just keep the connection going till we get back. That way the Genii can't dial in."
SG1's lessons learned that hard way being out to good use still.

"The Wraith alterations preventing most forms of wireless access are still in place." Evan said with a motion to the DHD. "So I was about to attempt initiating one utilizing manual access to the dialing units hardware."
Really this is will be the thing that I think Eventus will be working to fix, regaining control over the Gate Network in the galaxy which will require physically distributing a lot of code updates until he has enough of the network back online to use it as a router to update each Gate via direct end-to-end updating using one gate to dial another and then pushing the update itself that way. He'd still need an appreciable plurality of the gate network back under Atlantis' control to even attempt this. And even then he may hold off until the Asurans are dealt with.
 
In the original timeline McKay just bumbled his way to their code base and started doing things that he shouldn't be doing.

Also ascension has a weird requirement of being a biological being and like what happened in the show digital ascension is no go. Eventus can pretty much offer them to be human and we know Asurans can construct humans with actual 1:1 memories so this should give them the best chance of achieving it.

And most importantly the pro-ascension Asurans is a extreme minority. Eventus can probably make changes and harden the Asuran code to prevent future problems to his life, their disloyalty and future hacking attempts for his future enemies.

Like what they teach in the basics of clustering you need multiple nodes before the system can accept the changes (quorum) to it. In show they have ONE CENTRAL CORE that in an event a bad actor get access to it push a code in...they can make the changes across the collective. I mean this can be explained that this nanites were a dev/prototype version and did not require such redudancies.

If he can get the Asuran to his side he can probably start doing sweeping changes to the gate network like fixing changes the wraith made to it. Which ironically would allow the Attero device to work if they can shut it off temporarily.
 
Like what they teach in the basics of clustering you need multiple nodes before the system can accept the changes (quorum) to it. In show they have ONE CENTRAL CORE that in an event a bad actor get access to it push a code in...they can make the changes across the collective. I mean this can be explained that this nanites were a dev/prototype version and did not require such redudancies.
My guess is the Asurans themselves have been chipping away at the quorum function but had to stop when it reached one node requirement because they couldn't find Atlantis themselves.
 
My guess is the Asurans themselves have been chipping away at the quorum function but had to stop when it reached one node requirement because they couldn't find Atlantis themselves.
I doubt that. The wraith at the height of their power marshaled billions of their kind to fight the Asuran in a galactic war and did the same thing as what the Atlantis team but without the plot armor and in doing so sacrificed many hundreds of warships and billions of their kind just to get the the central core nearly 10,000 years ago.

This isn't some imaginary limitation that they've been trying to hack for eons THIS has been a built in function for eons that remain unchanged.

That's how they shut off the Asurans they didn't do it remotely. They jammed it in the core itself.
 
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You know if the Ori did invade the pegasus galaxy I kinda expect for them to create a plague that's harmless to humans, but deadly to the wraith.
 
Honestly makes sense for how a group like the Genii operate. Very US like in terms of soft power projection from possessing a stable industrial base with a backing from having a superior military.
Yup, the Genii aren't stupid. Just desperate. And they know the value of soft power.

Love the bit of back and forth of a decision already made but still needing to feel yourself say why you're making it.
Shepherd knows one of the big key's to getting higher ups to do things is to let them think it's their idea in the first place. :D

Eventus really wants to keep his city intact please and thank you, and he does not want to explain why McKay was reduced to a red paste by the emergency defenses.
Thanks... I'm now imagining McKay being followed around and constantly rammed in the foot by an Ancient Roomba... :lol:


You know if the Ori did invade the pegasus galaxy I kinda expect for them to create a plague that's harmless to humans, but deadly to the wraith.
I kind of assume the Ori just didn't want to deal with the Wraith given all the ways that could go bad for them.

Like, if they managed to pull what they did with the Ancient's with a Toilet Ship, suddenly you have entire fleets of Super-Hives going from galaxy to galaxy and hunting down humans everywhere.
 
Thanks... I'm now imagining McKay being followed around and constantly rammed in the foot by an Ancient Roomba... :lol:
My actual thought is McKay's murder being stored as a command in the system and like, three months later once they get Atlantis up and running again suddenly McKay is just vaporized on the spot and it's like, "Damn okay forgot to clear the command queue before turning it back in."

Your tiny Atlantis Roomba that McKay thinks likes him but it actually is trying to "cleanse the city of him" is far more adorable.
 
By the way, don't the Athosians have tea what they drink before Dawn? So is Shepard just thinking of coffee when there should be at least one source of caffeine in Pegasus?
 
Do you plan to make use of the Hoffan drug in this story?
Potentially? I don't have things planned out that far ahead with this one.


Your tiny Atlantis Roomba that McKay thinks likes him but it actually is trying to "cleanse the city of him" is far more adorable.
Given McKay, that probably exactly how he would react under that circumstance. :lol:



By the way, don't the Athosians have tea what they drink before Dawn? So is Shepard just thinking of coffee when there should be at least one source of caffeine in Pegasus?
Yes, but convincing a coffee addict that tea works just as well as often and excersise in futility.


I'm pretty sure the Ori ship power generators are basically a perfected version of Project Arcturus.
It's zero point energy but I don't think it specifies beyond that.
 
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