CompassJimbo
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SetDef are probably some of the most grimderp villians around. "Surrender now for immediate execution! There is no shame in death!"
Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare. AKA: Tactical David Bowie Simulator 2016
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RangerKarl
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>be SDF captain
>have hostages
>know enemy is on board, and have cultural priority to protecting civs
>threaten to kill hostages because ? ? ?
>don't actually kill them until you can see them even though your soldiers are dropping everywhere
>get shot in the head by gi Joe
? ? ? ! ? ?
>have hostages
>know enemy is on board, and have cultural priority to protecting civs
>threaten to kill hostages because ? ? ?
>don't actually kill them until you can see them even though your soldiers are dropping everywhere
>get shot in the head by gi Joe
? ? ? ! ? ?
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I think I already mentioned this. Yeah, remember when CoD quotes were actually selected for, at least a modicum of philosophical significance.
Like one of the quotes is literally 'Wanting to be happy is outmoded and wrong in our modern SPESS era!'
Edit : Look, I'm not saying villains need to be totally relatable and sympathetic. 'Both sides are equally bad' is just about as contrived as one side being angels and the other demons.
Heck, from the Black Ops games, Raul Menendez is a horrible human being but his decades long personal vendetta actually makes some sense without ever detracting from what a horrible monster he personally is or the evil of his actions.
I mean, his sister is horribly maimed without recourse due to 'American capitalism' and then she is killed by a, probably unstable, US special forces operative deciding to chuck a grenade at him.
Even after slaughtering Panamanian soldiers on a cocaine fueled murder spree I could understand the guys pain and hatred.
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teslashark
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This is beyond Zeon, this is Jupiter Empire on the Gundam dementia scale.
HarakoniWarhawk
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The Campaign makes it seem like the player character was trained by making them play Mass Effect while indoctrinating them to be mini commander Shepard.
The whole plot seems to be Mini Commander Shepard vs the Generic Evil Space Nazi's.
The whole plot seems to be Mini Commander Shepard vs the Generic Evil Space Nazi's.
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I was originally looking forward to this - I admit, I do occasionally like myself some simple FPS romps and exploding spess ships, and I remember the time when CoD campaigns were things you'd play the game for (hey, I started out with first CoD, don't judge me 
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You know, despite my general cynism and lack of expectations, for some reason I thought this was exaggeration.
Then I saw the Let's Plays.
Jesus H. Christ on exploding diamond pony, how did no one on the staff looked back at this and didn't cringe? It's like a writing collab between Travis and Kartmann.
)You know, despite my general cynism and lack of expectations, for some reason I thought this was exaggeration.
Then I saw the Let's Plays.
Jesus H. Christ on exploding diamond pony, how did no one on the staff looked back at this and didn't cringe? It's like a writing collab between Travis and Kartmann.
RangerKarl
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The lead actor wrote this thing.
Yeah I have nothing I can add to this.
Yeah I have nothing I can add to this.
So the events of the campaign occur throughout a single day. -141 FTL back and forth across the Solar System taking out all these random outposts by itself. The entirety of Earth's defenses are apparently a few guns in Switzerland. No one figured to crack open the nukes?
I guess in IWverse everybody just enjoys throwing men away.
I guess in IWverse everybody just enjoys throwing men away.
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Triggerhappy
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Wait, is that like, actually canon, or just an abstraction of how the campaign plays?
RangerKarl
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They go on and on about it. The admirals you assassinate explicitly state the events in Black Sky happen on the same day. Geneva's still occupied when you go back. At the end they say what a helluva day it's been. These fuckers are spec ops zombies or something. Apparently jumpdrives give you strategic mobility so intense you can operate at speeds orders of magnitude above anything we'd consider sane.
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It's even funnier because it means the character development makes NO sense.
Omar apparently decides he likes Ethan after three minutes in a room with him after previously going on about Marines being men not machines.
Edit : Also holy shit the admiralty is literally operating out of a sky scraper in a completely insecure city.
Omar apparently decides he likes Ethan after three minutes in a room with him after previously going on about Marines being men not machines.
Edit : Also holy shit the admiralty is literally operating out of a sky scraper in a completely insecure city.
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Tactical geniuses. The enemy will never expect them to be located somewhere this stupid.
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The tactical acumen of the SDF has been called into question, yes.
That actually makes sense. The character interactions were heavy handed but not actually that awful.*
And there was a thread of character conflict which Reyes goes through over the course of the campaign. That being the necessity for a Captain to be willing to sacrifice the lives of his men.
Of course this is somewhat poorly handled given it's literally what the Villain is so proud of doing. Nor does Reyes even have the moral superiority of dying alongside his men, Koch was perfectly willing to regard himself as expendable as well.
Taken as individual vignettes without much knowledge of the time between each one they actually make some sense. It's everything else about the story that goes completely off the rails.
* I actually liked the fact that the Helmsman got better at warping the Retribution over the course of the campaign. The first jump to the moon nearly tears the ship apart. By the end he's dropping the Ret into atmosphere and stopping on a dime. That's some Han Solo bullshit there son.
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Triggerhappy
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The fact that they decided to save the guns, which don't appear to be able to shoot out of atmosphere, at the cost of the fleet, which can also defend earth and also go out and protect other planets and interests, is also sort of telling.
Are the spaceships totally incapable of engaging ground targets? Seems to me like the first thing whoever's in charge would do is give the order to take out the Guns before they can knock out more than one or two ships.
Net result the fleet over Earth consists of more than ten ships and actually manages to claw the Olympus Mons out of the sky.
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Late by a few days, but worth a mention. I watched the Let's Play on YouTube and the most glaring part is not all of the aforementioned facts and plot holes above. No. It was the fact that they make no mention to the fact that his female wingman in, you know, despite the fact that she is also a Lieutenant like him and both of them joked about that part in the second mission's opening. No mention whatsoever.
At that point, at 2 AM this morning, my suspension of disbelief decides to suspend itself by the neck on a piece of rope.
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I'm pretty sure military protocol is, in the event of needing to fill slots by rank you pick the person who has held the rank the longest. So it just means Reyes has been a Lieutenant longer.
Which is still incredibly dumb given that warship officers and pilots have vastly different skill sets. There should also be, like, a crapload of people But it's a different kind of dumb.
If this was actually following some sort of sane protocol they'd transfer over either the Captain or XO of the Tigris or send up a surviving groundside officer to take command of ship side ops.
Succession in the chain of command is for when you can't get a replacement officer. It's never an excuse to promote someone except maybe if they were due for promotion anyways, and even then probably only under dire cirumstances.
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Lieutenant is an Officer rank though. And while I could see Reyes having the rank longer, the fact that it wasn't mentioned in the slightest that she is a Lieutenant as the worst part of it. Though my suspension of disbelief have snapped since apparently, a state-of-the-art space strike craft's cockpit opening in the future could still be easily pried open with a crowbar. A crowbar.
Triggerhappy
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I think there's some bit missing from your train of thought in these last two posts. What I'm getting is that you regard it as a plothole that Reyes was promoted as Senior Officer without mentioning that Salter also has the same rank.
Thing is, it doesn't matter, because Reyes is the senior Lieutenant so protocol would shunt it directly to him, no debate or comments. Reyes does actually acknowledge after a later mission that his death would have leave Salter in Command. And apparently she did fill in for him, temporarily. So they didn't forget that she was next in line.
Although that also brings up a different plothole. If Reyes is the commander of the SCARs aboard the Retribution, then even if he and Salter have the same nominal rank he should (I think) technically outrank her.
As for the Crowbar thing. Eh, I can believe it. Plenty of machines are designed with system failures in mind so that they can still be operated manually. They use crowbars to pry open the cockpits on modern fighter jets that are already able to fly at high altitudes and very low pressure. I just assumed she's disengaging a jammed catch mechanism, or giving a warped canopy frame an extra nudge, rather than actually prying the whole canopy open by hand.
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Where did you get this from?
Triggerhappy
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Apparently in game dialogue suggests that the events on earth happen the same day as a later assassination mission. Which happens to take place near Pluto.
Also the fact that Geneva is still on fire when you get back to earth for the endgame.
If Reyes hadn't died at the end of the game I swear to god they would have promoted him to Admiral and had him in command of the (completely rebuilt) fleet by next tuesday.
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Protagonist genes.
Looking at his family tree he's probably the descendant of one of Captain Price's many illegitimate children. Guy fought wars for at least 60 or so years, he's gotta have a bunch.
Triggerhappy
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The E3N project was based on a neuroprint of Gaz.
Edit : Or maybe Ramirez seeing as he literally does everything.
-Ethan, reboot the planetary defense system!
-Ethan, hack those drones!
-Ethan, cinematically pan my fighter while I man the guns!
-Ethan, reboot our escort mecha!
-Ethan, seal my suit breach!
-Ethan, pilot this super carrier!
-Ethan, heroically sacrifice yourself!
They should have just made E3N captain
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Trent01
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The E3N project was based on a neuroprint of Gaz.
Edit : Or maybe Ramirez seeing as he literally does everything.
-Ethan, reboot the planetary defense system!
-Ethan, hack those drones!
-Ethan, cinematically pan my fighter while I man the guns!
-Ethan, reboot our escort mecha!
-Ethan, seal my suit breach!
-Ethan, pilot this super carrier!
-Ethan, heroically sacrifice yourself!
They should have just made E3N captain
Suddenly the mad and slapped-together nature of SetDef's invasion begins to make a bit more sense. They knew that SATO had succeeded in developing a mass-producible protagonist. A knockoff copy, more like a hypercompetent NPC than a protag, but still a digital copy of protag genes. If there were even two or three more E3N's around, SetDef would have been crushed!
CompassJimbo
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I'll be one to admit, Ethan is cool. Then again, snarky sidekicks are a character type I'm a sucker for, anyway.
Triggerhappy
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Salter : Ethan, you actually have emotions?
E3N : I do Ma'am! I carry the brain of mortally wounded marine.
Salter : Oh my god. Is that true?
E3N : No Ma'am. Not at all.
I strongly encourage people to watch the actual cinematic. The delivery is glorious.
Edit : Apparent he actually says the brain of human farmer.
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