So what kind of devastation level are we looking at for Tyrian led compliances. You talked about it a few days back but I want to know how thoroughly we're about to wreck human worlds.
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And They Shall Know No Fear (Warhammer 30K-40K Astartes Quest)
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What do you have 50 of in compliances?
Right.
Something to think of I guess, such devastated worlds aren't likely to be very loyal and almost certainly have pitiful levels of production. Not sure how Magnus would react to this either. As much as we want to spank him we need his respect to instill proper discipline and the trust for him to come to Tyrian with things.
On the other hand this is the beginning of the Crusade, the rushiest of the rush. We might have to just push forward until we have a moment to fix up our domain.
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The reason for this level of devastation is both because Aventus hasn't gotten to work on those systems yet AND because Tyrian is still in a Unification Wars mindset as it's just been a few years since those ended and the Great Crusade began.
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There's a reason he's Tyrian's second in command.
He and Ohrmuzd really do complement us, the flesh change is seriously going to piss Tyrian off. So many brothers with so much potential.
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We should increase apothecaries. It might help with geneseed implantation and eventual flesh change.
Good point, with the size of our Legion every Astartes is valuable. More apothecaries will help us on and off the field.
So here's my plan, subject to debate. Thanks to Nurgle for making his plan that I have now modified to be a little more compliance heavy, moving Aventus off resource gathering to general compliance.
[] Plan: Nurgrin
-[] Mechanicus trade xenotech for Legio Cybernetica
--[] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
We are a small legion about to start hemorrhaging Astartes. Cybernetica support gives us more Astartes grade combatants.
[] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
-[]Martially times 3
--[] Tyrian:
-[] Logis times two
—[] Aventus:
A solid split between rapid conquest and bringing in less than devastated worlds.
[] Spend Time Gaining Recruits (Diplomatic, Dice Rolls = Actions Invested and Recruits Found)
-[] 10 Fully Inhabited Systems
--[] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
@Tinkerer is this plan acceptably formatted?
[] Plan: Nurgrin
-[] Mechanicus trade xenotech for Legio Cybernetica
--[] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
We are a small legion about to start hemorrhaging Astartes. Cybernetica support gives us more Astartes grade combatants.
[] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
-[]Martially times 3
--[] Tyrian:
-[] Logis times two
—[] Aventus:
A solid split between rapid conquest and bringing in less than devastated worlds.
[] Spend Time Gaining Recruits (Diplomatic, Dice Rolls = Actions Invested and Recruits Found)
-[] 10 Fully Inhabited Systems
--[] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
@Tinkerer is this plan acceptably formatted?
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Looks good. A note, I forgot to add this to the update but you can take a logistical action to upgrade the status of a holding. Such as raising a barely inhabited single planet system to one where that single inhabited planet is fully inhabited. You can do this to as many planets as you have points in Logistics. Each action you put into it gives you another die for each of the uplifts.
So Aventus can upgrade 7 worlds than?
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Yep, and if he focuses multiple actions on it he can have multiple dice per each uplift.
Regarding Legion relationships I do hope in the future to put one or more Ohrmuzd actions on it per turn. The better relations we have with them the more likely we can see warning signs of an imminent fall and try to prevent it. Or failing that hopefully causing more of a now traitor legion to rebel.
On the Primarch side of things we have to rely on Magnus to do the social interactions because they're his brothers. I think this can work assuming we spend Tyrian actions to instill a sense of discipline in Magnus and Ohrmuzd actions to make him even more sociable. We do have an advantage over canon here, Tyrian will be a Psyker. Thus also serving as a face of Psykery wherein it can be a path of loyalty and service. This will counterbalance Magnus's initial recklessness in theory.
On the Primarch side of things we have to rely on Magnus to do the social interactions because they're his brothers. I think this can work assuming we spend Tyrian actions to instill a sense of discipline in Magnus and Ohrmuzd actions to make him even more sociable. We do have an advantage over canon here, Tyrian will be a Psyker. Thus also serving as a face of Psykery wherein it can be a path of loyalty and service. This will counterbalance Magnus's initial recklessness in theory.
Ihaxlikenoob
Dragon of Terror
Uh question here:
Sorry if this is gripey but this kinda broke my SoD for fleets meant to subjugate/unify the galaxy.
Are... are these numbers right? There can't possibly this little amount of ships in a Expeditionary fleet, I know we're only a one or two decades into the Crusade with an altered timeline but... you can't honestly expect these guys to be able to perform compliance actions and expect them to do well with so little naval power.
Sorry if this is gripey but this kinda broke my SoD for fleets meant to subjugate/unify the galaxy.
[X] Plan: Nurgrin
-[X] Mechanicus trade xenotech for Legio Cybernetica
--[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
We are a small legion about to start hemorrhaging Astartes. Cybernetica support gives us more Astartes grade combatants.
[X] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
-[X]Martially times 3
--[X] Tyrian:
-[X] Logis times two
—[X] Aventus:
A solid split between rapid conquest and bringing in less than devastated worlds.
[X] Spend Time Gaining Recruits (Diplomatic, Dice Rolls = Actions Invested and Recruits Found)
-[X] 10 Fully Inhabited Systems
--[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
-[X] Mechanicus trade xenotech for Legio Cybernetica
--[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
We are a small legion about to start hemorrhaging Astartes. Cybernetica support gives us more Astartes grade combatants.
[X] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
-[X]Martially times 3
--[X] Tyrian:
-[X] Logis times two
—[X] Aventus:
A solid split between rapid conquest and bringing in less than devastated worlds.
[X] Spend Time Gaining Recruits (Diplomatic, Dice Rolls = Actions Invested and Recruits Found)
-[X] 10 Fully Inhabited Systems
--[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd:
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Ok. After sleep, some revelations from the GM (namely about uplifting), and further thought:
Tyrian will do three martial compliances. There is literally no other use for martial right now, and we are racing the Orcs and worse here. It would be insane to waste his absurd skill.
We can improve our planets with Logistics. Unfortunately we can not uplift all of our planets, there is no time, but not doing so at all would be grave folly. A balance must be found. Thus, one action on this to test it out.
We have the xeno tech to trade. Now, there has been much talk about giving it to Mechanicus, but consider: this is future xeno tech. This really should go to Emps. Also, mending bridges with him will be vital long term.
And so:
[X] Plan Compliance, Uplift, Emps
-[X] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
--[X]Martially
---[X]Tyrian
---[X]Tyrian
---[X]Tyrian
--[X] Logistically
---[X]Aventus
---[X]Aventus
-[X] Uplift planets (Logistics)
--[X]Aventus
-[X] Attempt to Curry Favor with another Faction (Diplomatic)
--[X] Emperor - give xeno tech
---[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd
In the future I suspect that Aventus will be doing more Uplifting then Compliences, but we do not know right now. Also keep in mind that assimilating planets with Logistics leaves them undamaged, so it too increases out industry.
Tyrian will do three martial compliances. There is literally no other use for martial right now, and we are racing the Orcs and worse here. It would be insane to waste his absurd skill.
We can improve our planets with Logistics. Unfortunately we can not uplift all of our planets, there is no time, but not doing so at all would be grave folly. A balance must be found. Thus, one action on this to test it out.
We have the xeno tech to trade. Now, there has been much talk about giving it to Mechanicus, but consider: this is future xeno tech. This really should go to Emps. Also, mending bridges with him will be vital long term.
And so:
[X] Plan Compliance, Uplift, Emps
-[X] Search for New Civilizations to Bring into Compliance (Dice Rolls = Actions Invested)
--[X]Martially
---[X]Tyrian
---[X]Tyrian
---[X]Tyrian
--[X] Logistically
---[X]Aventus
---[X]Aventus
-[X] Uplift planets (Logistics)
--[X]Aventus
-[X] Attempt to Curry Favor with another Faction (Diplomatic)
--[X] Emperor - give xeno tech
---[X] Ahzek Ohrmuzd
In the future I suspect that Aventus will be doing more Uplifting then Compliences, but we do not know right now. Also keep in mind that assimilating planets with Logistics leaves them undamaged, so it too increases out industry.
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Is this even valid? We can buy favors from them, but we do not know what those can be right now.
Also, this is OC reasoning. We do not know about the flesh change or psykery yet. And it wastes the "from the future" aspect of the equipment. Emps could probably read something very important from them.
I asked Tinkerer if the plan was rules compliant and he said yes.
My IC reasoning is pretty simple, we're low on Astartes compared to too many other Legions. Recruiting the Cybernetica whose virtues I've been talking about for the last few updates will allow us to obtain compliances faster.
Edit: If the Big E really wants to take a peek he can just ask the Mechanicum, they widely regard him as the omnissiah after all.
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Those are ships actively owned by the Legion, I'm not counting every single ship in the entire fleet.
[X] Plan: Nurgrin
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
And we are high on Astartes compared to many. Not that that's saying much, the question you should ask instead is if we are large enough, and if our current recruit income (we do have a passive one right?) is sufficient.
Edit: To elaborate, this is because a crusade fleets combat power, much less compliance power, stems not from only Astartes. Not even close.
Also consider how absurdly skilled Tyrian is. There will not be many deaths under his command.
The more planets we have, the more sources for recruits, and thus the greater growth.
I agree with you that Cybernetica have promise, but not right now. Our logistics suck, and we are not psykers yet. Many other things would allow us to attain compliance faster, better or more tanks, more mortal soldiers, better logistics, more worlds...
You are selling something with a value of 100 to people who would use only 10 of it, and that's if I'm being generous. Eldar techs is far too advanced for study of it to produce much of anything useful for the duration of the Crusade, and the information Emps might get from it with, say, psychometrics, could change the future of the galaxy.
We can leverage favor with Emps into other kinds, with Admech for example. Work of their God you know? Can't do it the other way around. No to mention the better our relationship the more we could help him resolve his sons issues.
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