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All-American Small Town Evil Conspiracy Quest

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Omegahugger said:
especially since we started mining on the RNG for chance-affecting implants.
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Ohmygoodness, we're literally doing this in this quest. I love your rational. It also lets Earthscorpion show the rolls right before they resolve into actual actions, which can be more gratifying when it comes up crits.

[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

[X] Puncture Her Tires.

Puncturing her tires because getting the target alone is the best idea when we're supposed to be acting surreptitiously.
 
Don't mess this up for the Inhuman Resources Division, Thug & Beatings Division. If you do Johnson will bring a personally curated report co-authored by Ranaksatamun of your failure to the Board :rage:
 
Aleph said:
oh you sweet summer child

you are adorably naive
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Our company hires only the best, most competent thugs. Or would, if the head of HR didn't need a new car.

I'm saying stuff like that deliberately. Not trying to become 'that guy' in the company. Not at all. I mean my last vote contains the phrase "What could go wrong?" (Not sure on wording)
 
[X] - Roll Thrice, Take Middle.

People we are playing the conspiracy, not the TV director, it's in our best interests to have predictable outcomes.
 
Vindictus said:
I find it kind of funny that there are people who are arguing that we should do things stupidly because it will set the tone for the 'Show', rather than doing things smart because it'll actually pay off for us.

Keep in mind that we're determining the 'In-Character' reasoning for our guys, people. Would you rather have minions who would prefer to put on a 'Show' for 'Watchers', without any care for secrecy or subtlety, or minions who take the time to plan a careful and plausibly deniable ambush?
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All the other options kind of suck. This option gives us a bonus on the next action. It's a pretty good choice from a game standpoint.
 
[X] Beat her up in the car park outside. It's dark, mostly empty, and even if someone notices you'll have time to run. On the other hand, she might manage to get into her car and escape.
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[X] Roll Once. The usual way of rolling. One person rolls, and we use that result.

Look, Rolf is not a smart man by any stretch of the imagination. Of which he himself is sorely lacking. He's just a simple man, and lying in wait to ambush her in the parking lot is quite cunning by his standards. So while, yes, it doesn't have the best chance of being pulled off successfully, the failure state can also be used to advance our Nefarious Schemes and Goals. As others mentioned, we could use failure to push for a tough on crime candidate to take control of the local police.

Rolling once leads to maximum lulz because of no averages pulling results to the middle plus everyone knowing exactly who to blame for shitty rolls.
 
[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

Honestly, the GM doing the rolls themselves has always appealed to me more. Keeps the mechanics out of sight to avoid from detracting from the game's narrative-drivenness. Speeds things up, keeps things clean, etc.
 
Vindictus said:
I find it kind of funny that there are people who are arguing that we should do things stupidly because it will set the tone for the 'Show', rather than doing things smart because it'll actually pay off for us.

Keep in mind that we're determining the 'In-Character' reasoning for our guys, people. Would you rather have minions who would prefer to put on a 'Show' for 'Watchers', without any care for secrecy or subtlety, or minions who take the time to plan a careful and plausibly deniable ambush?
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The former. A "Show" as you put it, is more fun. Not saying there isn't value in the other, but making decisions based on narrative is more fun. And I'm putting stock in fun here.
 
[X] Beat her up in the car park outside. It's dark, mostly empty, and even if someone notices you'll have time to run. On the other hand, she might manage to get into her car and escape.
-[X] Have one of those fine fellows in the car slash her tires before she gets out; she won't be getting far in that car eh-heh-heh-heh.

Not beating her up in the parking lot is a missed opportunity of cinematic tradition; it also plays into out 'Poor Secrecy' trait, if we had 'Good Secrecy' as a trait I'd be all for puncturing her tires though.
 
Troglodyte said:
Not beating her up in the parking lot is a missed opportunity of cinematic tradition; it also plays into out 'Poor Secrecy' trait, if we had 'Good Secrecy' as a trait I'd be all for puncturing her tires though.
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That trait is a trait of your base, not of your organisation. It means, for example, people can find where your secret lair is by checking the phone book or asking "Hey, where are the Black Goat offices?".
 
EarthScorpion said:
That trait is a trait of your base, not of your organisation. It means, for example, people can find where your secret lair is by checking the phone book or asking "Hey, where are the Black Goat offices?".
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In other words, it's the downside of being an actual business rather than just a bunch of guys who meet up at Smokey Pete's Bar and Grill and hang around in the shady back room on weekends.
 
[X] Roll Once. The usual way of rolling. One person rolls, and we use that result.
Look. How am I going to know exactly how preposterously bad someone's luck is, and then subsequently blame all of our misfortune on them, if we don't have clear results?

[X] Puncture her tires.
Anna here is already a bit of a social outcast. Running a kooky bookshop, eating microwave dinners alone with wine - I think it's pretty fair to say that she's going to be considered unreliable testimony. We can use that. Catch her on the side of the road while she's alone and waiting for the tow truck, put her in the hospital, and then anything she says that might tie our man back to the company will have no eyewitnesses to back it up. Being mugged like that can cause severe shock; small wonder she's having trouble remembering events clearly.
 
I have already taken lesson two to heart and am so very willing to let the plan go on a bit longer in exchange for tasty bonuses, even if that means there is more risk of unintended complications in the plan.

[X] Puncture her tires.

Also, as one of the less-overt options, there is probably an okay-ish chance of a failure here not even being noticed, barring complications.

as for rolling,

[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

I am sorry ES, but the added tension will be so great :p
 
I really liked char (should that be consp?)gen. Now I'm trying (failing) to come up with a system for doing a 'five odd 90's conspiracies enter, one leaves' type thing for tabletop.

[x] puncture tires

I don't think our guy can mess up cutting her tires, right?
 
[X] Roll Once. The usual way of rolling. One person rolls, and we use that result.

[X] Puncture her tires.

In the store or in the parking lot means witnesses. We don't want witnesses. Plus, with punctured tires and reading while she drives, there's a decent chance she'll manage to run herself off the road or into a tree or something.
 
[X] Roll Once. The usual way of rolling. One person rolls, and we use that result.

[X] Puncture her tires.

FISHER: This seems like the cheapest option. Wait, we've already paid them? Hmm. Well, my cousin has stocks in Michelin. If it looks enough like an accident people might be looking for a safer popular tire brand. I can advise him to sell now.
JACKSON: We're in a small town that no one particularly cares about. How will this affect tire prices?
FISHER: It's a complicated world, Jackson. We're all connected.
JACKSON: That doesn't answer my question.
FISHER: I can't explain Equity Metaphysics to you if you're not already converted. If you want a good argument of it, ask Ratanksatamun.
RATANKSATAMUN: [EXPOSITORY SCREAM].
JACKSON: I don't think those are even michelin tires.
FISHER: It's the thought that counts, Jackson.
JACKSON: That's not even the right goddamn idiom!
FISHER: You have to keep an open mind. Peter did, and look at him.
RATANKSATAMUN: [CATCHES FLY FROM AIR WITH FLAGELLUM].
JACKSON: ...Fair enough. Can't argue against that.
 
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dash931 said:
Would it be possible to just run her car off the road? I mean, she's explicitly a godawful driver who reads books while at the wheel, so who would believe her saying it was somebody else's fault? Besides, wrecking her car just adds to the bills she'd have to pay. I'm sure there's a nasty turnpike somewhere we can pull this off.
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Yes, but this option has a distressingly high chance of *crashes car into tree, car explodes violently, target dies*

[X] Roll Once

Look, this is the most hilarious option. Having all the rolls be hidden away where they can't be a source of tension and drama? Bah.

[X] Puncture her tires.

As some have mentioned already, I'd like to get a handle on set-up actions. And well, our company clearly relies too much on low cost labour to drive down expenses, because these thugs are complete failures.

At the same time, there's always the issue that delaying for a better chance of success might result in additional complications popping up. Also, we could still fail at this anyway and uh, get spotted while puncturing the tires or something like thar.
 
[x] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.
I don't like dice cluttering up the thread.

[x] Slash her tires.
More likely to end up succeeding.
 
[X] Beat her up in the car park outside. It's dark, mostly empty, and even if someone notices you'll have time to run. On the other hand, she might manage to get into her car and escape.

I'm not a fan of slashing her tires. Mechanically, I'm not a fan of taking mystery box choices with unspecified bonuses down the line over choices that will get the job done. And narratively, I think it complicates the situation too much. What happens if she crashes her car? Or if she manages to make it home with the slashed tires? Or if the thugs lose her before she has to pull over? Or if the tow truck doesn't come and the poor old lady dies from exposure and lack of medical attention on a too quiet road? Or in the opposite case, she has to stop in a busy area, or stops in at a nearby house to use the phone, which adds witnesses and complications and all this took me a few minutes to think up.

So I'm taking the option of beating her up in the car park. It has reasonable odds of success, and popular support. I seriously considered shooting her to control the situation further, but realistically her dying is one of the worse outcomes for the scenario.

[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

I have to wonder how three dice rolls would work. What happens if one comes up a failure and another comes up as a success with a complication. Which would be considered 'better".
 
[x] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.
Meh, I kind of like trusting the GM on this.

[x] Slash her tires.

This seems the most efficient way to start getting things done.
 
[X] Puncture her tires.
[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

People, we just got told that our lackeys are a bunch of incompetents and that we need clever planning and preparation to make them succeed, so why aren't we doing that?

as for the rolls, I really don't care, so I just coose the route that would make the updates more expedient.
 
[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

[X] Puncture Her Tires.


Invisible dice = less thread drama, more tension
Holing the tires meanwhile, is a pretty simple way to enhance a hit.

Even the goon squad can't get shanking her wheels wrong.
 
BrainInAJar said:
[X] Puncture her tires.
[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

People, we just got told that our lackeys are a bunch of incompetents and that we need clever planning and preparation to make them succeed, so why aren't we doing that?

as for the rolls, I really don't care, so I just coose the route that would make the updates more expedient.
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We are doing that, by being clever and preparing.
veekie said:
[X] You Don't See Me Rollin', You Hatin'.

[X] Puncture Her Tires.


Invisible dice = less thread drama, more tension
Holing the tires meanwhile, is a pretty simple way to enhance a hit.

Even the goon squad can't get shanking her wheels wrong.
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*stabs themselves*
 
[X] Strike in the frozen food isle. She won't have anywhere to run to, but there's the risk of a late-night shopper or the staff noticing you and kicking up a fuss.
(+1 dice, 1 autocomplication, Diff 2)

Better odds than the car-park ambush (65% is still less than I'd prefer), and it doesn't give our agent the opportunity to get lost while tailing her. I am somewhat curious what a five complication roll would result in.

[X] Roll Once. The usual way of rolling. One person rolls, and we use that result.

Clearly the best method. Invisible rolls make roseluck harder to see and enjoy.
 
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