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Well as soon as we can meditate on our Exaltation we can fix most of the toxic part, so we can lose Clarity much more easily then.mastigos2 said:
Alchemical Solutions [Worm/Exalted] Thread 9: Icon’s Idiosyncrasies Incite Irritating Inquisition
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I'll be honest, I couldn't read all of it.spudman said:
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That reminds me that we still need to work on our insect operated funnels/remote weapons for our armor. That way we can take down enemies like the Zanbanya Gundamticktrick said:
Come on you KNOW you want to see us pull something like this.
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Don't forget the remote weapons/funnels so we can take down hordes of enemies in style.Doomlord9 said:
Woah there, slow down. Keep in mind we'll eventually be getting access to a Vat Chamber.Doomlord9 said:
I'm actually not convinced that this is true. You don't need Tinkertech to make BCIs for insects. In the real world, this:ticktrick said:
Costs $99 and is designed to be simple enough for children to use in demonstration experiments.
It allows you to remote control a cockroach by Bluetooth. They have an Android app, I think, so you can use a smartphone.
They're working on a non-invasive version.
You could make a non-invasive BCI that 'reads' the insects mind more easily in many ways. You just put them inside a decent neuroimaging scanner. The very small size of insect brains and tiny amount of tissue between them and the scanner would give you very high sensitivity, and you could combine a variety of techniques, including ones that would kill the insect in short order. Our ability to control the insects 'thoughts' would allow us to train a system designed to decode them into desired commands very quickly.ticktrick said:
I don't want to make these. I was using them as an example that insect BCI is not that hard.uju32 said:
That's exactly what I want to do. We'd have multiple insects sit having their brains read, as many are required to transmit enough signal to control the machine, which would transmit our commands to the machines they were plugged into.uju32 said:
A few thousand insects having their brains continually scanned plugged into computer systems would be enormously powerful.
I'd quite like to go further and hijack the insects senses directly rather than have them watch screens, but that's a later, more invasive step.
Are impossible, by Word of Grom.uju32 said:
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This could work. The issue of the interfaced bug being much less expendable and slower to replace is much less of a problem if whatever it's interfaced with isn't intended for combat use. Still don't think it's the most efficient option though.Doomlord9 said:
Because my proposal doesn't need Tinker-tech. It also doesn't involve wiring, or doing anything at all to the insects. They fly into a scanner, and sit there. That's it. That's why I say non-invasie.ticktrick said:
I am not talking about implants. Why would we bother with implants at this point? Insect scaled keyboards are a vast amount of high precision work that would take an enormous amount of effort to make.ticktrick said:
For the scanners, we could simply settle on one species. It's not as if it would be difficult for us to sort them.
Because custom special purpose insect haptics are a waste of time and effort when compared to using off the shelf components to make non-invasive scanners.uju32 said:
Maintainance is much easier in my proposal of having them sit inside what's basically one of these:uju32 said:
The neural imager records their brain activity, and turns it into computer commands. Our ability to control the insects perfectly means it would be much easier to extrapolate a signal from the noise.
We could probably have dozens or hundreds of them sit inside one scanner.
Wait for Grom to come back on. With no search I doubt I can find it before he doesuju32 said:
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When something gets absorbed into the Elswhere pocket its frozen in time, I remember in an earlier thread something about a sorceror who got himself permanently stuck in one unable to die or leave so our insect operators should be completely fine if we absorb the drones.uju32 said:
I don't really see the fascination with insect piloted drones.
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So you DON'T want us to be able to do thislandcollector said:
With stun lasers and containment foam missiles and be able to subdue craptons of enemies at once?
Not really, no. Seems too gimmicky to me. I'd much rather prefer designing a gauntlet mounted module version of the stun laser idea for our Power Armor. The CF missiles are an interesting idea though. Design a modularized launcher. Armsmaster would be a big help in miniaturizing the ideas, and Dragon could help with the Containment Foam modifications.1986ctcel said:
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The point of Funnels is to perform and "All-range attack" like in the video rapidly firing at an enemy and moving the funnel to the next enemy and being able to attack from multiple angles making it virtually impossible to dodge without using hyperfast reflexes or precognition. we could take on lots of low or mid powered capes by overwhelming them with fire from every angle and from mobile turrets to small and fast to properly target whereas with the gaunlet we'll only be able to take out an enemy one at a time and besides think of the ping damage we could do to behemoth if we used them.landcollector said:
Swarm attacks have our best dicepool for the foreseeable future, both for parry and attack, IF the swarm is adequately equipped to actually fight.landcollector said:
Eh, there are so many other things to do wrt Tinkering that are a much better time investment.veekie said:
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screw the gauntlet, missile pods EVERYWHERE a la Heavy Arms (Endless Waltz version). Who needs hordes of complex drones when you can just Macross Missile Spam your way to victory. The best part? We could probably figure out a way to use our foldspace storage to reload the launchers on the fly.1986ctcel said:
Definitely an idea for a heavy assault/supression module loadout for our armor..IronSun. said:
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Why not both? We should have the designs of Hero's armor that we finished reassembling and have some idea on how to upgrade it too. we can just fit lots of those micromissile fabricators all over the armor and swarm them with missiles and lasers, we could even use the lasers to detonate missiles that go off target while the enemy is in the splash zone..IronSun. said:
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Here's an idea, breed some bigass bugs and have them carry CF micro-grenades. A swarm of expendable munitions would be awesome, and we could just as easily design different payloads once we have the system itself laid out.
But we DO have to fight, if nothing else, the S9 showing up, or the next Endbringer. Having swarms capable of doing greater than insect level damage would go a long way towards combat effectiveness, noting that our Swarm dicepool is easily thrice our Firearms(not even looking at Melee, Martial Arts or Dodge). It's XP efficient and remember that SoPA may be adding more bonuses here.landcollector said:
Arming our power armor is far less rewarding than arming our swarm.
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We should do more tinkering with AM and Dragon about those medical nanites then we might have enough experience to adapt them with what we gained from making nanothorns and we could spin it to them as being able to speed up tinkering research with not having to constantly requisition materials that take time and money. Hell if we perfect it we could install repair nanites into tinkertech to do maintenance that could allow it to be mass-produced.Slamu said:
Another mark against the whole drone idea is the Essence expenditures involved. Extruding/absorbing dozens of drones, along with the likely applications of IEU to allied capes in battle, means we have a real possibility of burning through our mote pool reserves faster than we can stunt them back up.
Easily solved with a drone holding suitcase or hoverboard drone dock. They count as one item that way, and capacity can be increased by using space folding technology.landcollector said:
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That's why we have the spacefolding backpack module remember? with that we can just store the drones in it and call them up as needed.landcollector said: