Ad Astra ex Lutum

Agreed and that is why suggested before that any should our guys make right now should be a specialist weapon of some kind yes?
[shrugs]

Look, our military people aren't stupid. They're not going to somehow create a project in which we recklessly commit to arming all our soldiers with lasers we physically can't build, or adopt laser technology we CAN replicate into some totally unsuitable weapon system that makes no sense like "give every soldier a 47-kilogram rifle."

I don't see it as a concern. As we work on this tech, it'll only become available for implementation when and as we find plausible things to use it for.
 
[shrugs]

Look, our military people aren't stupid. They're not going to somehow create a project in which we recklessly commit to arming all our soldiers with lasers we physically can't build, or adopt laser technology we CAN replicate into some totally unsuitable weapon system that makes no sense like "give every soldier a 47-kilogram rifle."

I don't see it as a concern. As we work on this tech, it'll only become available for implementation when and as we find plausible things to use it for.
True true guess was paranoid that they would be dazzled to much by the possibilities.
 
Research teams may get dazzled by possibilities, but we don't really see an option until it involves someone willing to throw billions of dollar-equivalents at the project. Things don't get that far without basic sanity checks as to whether a weapon is at least vaguely fit-for-purpose.
 
Hm. We know the Lirrir were poking around an alien precursor bunker before they got attacked. Twice. Do they have any records of what was IN that bunker and what they found, or were even the records effectively lost? Did they find anything like mummified heads in jars that might suggest similar technology or a shared species origin?
The Lirrir did not find heads in jars, mostly an incomplete historical archive and entire vast rooms of storage tanks for bodies along with a few other things. I'll detail it a lot more in the next post when you have an advising team on the ground and a far better idea/ability to talk with them.
 
Turn 11 (43AE): Extrasolar Diplomacy Results

Turn 11 (43AE): Extrasolar Diplomacy Results


Budget: 470B Or
Government Support: 80

Alien Equipment Overview:


The alien rifle, or as has tentatively been classified the Synod Alien Carbine is an interesting gun that is more alien than our expectations of what a gun is to be. The negligible trigger guard along with a lever-like trigger indicates some design experience for different manipulation types built into the stock. Optics are unavailable and neither are conventional sights likely due to some integrated module that has so far not been found in the armor system responsible for automatic aim. Attachment mounting points have also not been present outside of the ability to replace the lower grip, likely as a part of adapting the weapon to different alien hands. The serial number is present, if in a language that has not been adequately translated by either the Lirrir or domestic scientists indicating that these weapons are certainly in some form of mass manufacture. The weight of the carbine is a meager three and a half kilograms, incorporating a lasing aperture, battery, and capacitor bank into a tiny weapon frame made of ultra-durable composites that cannot be homogeneously replicated if one far less advanced than those that make up the cube as the composition is identifiable.

Lasing is achieved by the excitement of a central chamber followed by a peculiar system of lenses that seem to be of a novel crystalline structure that allows for the high-efficiency transmission of light with limited thermal load. Internal pumping and amplification systems are likely to be made of similar material, exceeding the efficiency and focus length of any domestic laser. The curiosities of the weapon design however do not end there the lack of stock indicates some form of lacking capacity to shoulder the carbine, limiting its use for direct fire or a quasi-aimed fire from the hip using suit assistance. The more grooved smoother design is likely an aesthetic preference as it serves little function but that in itself is a strange decision for a weapon system. The largest interesting factor is the lack of fiber optics or fiber lasers across the entire carbine, as the entire lasing assembly is built linearly with the battery and capacitor bank attached below it.

Destructive analysis of the capacitor and small parts of the material of the damaged rifle have yielded fairly rapid results as while the full replication of the capacitor is beyond current techniques, a primitive copy using domestic polymers has been made and evaluated, greatly increasing fast discharge performance by an order of magnitude compared to previous systems. Energy storage is negligible but the capacitor is more than potent enough to provide a pulse-firing mode to several heavier laser weapons that have been proposed. Miniaturizing it enough to make a viable infantry portable or crew-served weapon remains questionable but being able to replicate some elements of the rifle has brought hope to the entire scientific design staff. But the news otherwise has been grim as the armored suit that a lot of hopes were resting on is in too degraded of a condition to yield much usable information, with a coating of similar in structure but significantly different in composition alien alloy. Compared to previous expectations, the capacitor requirements are not as onerous as once feared with Q-switching significantly reducing peak power demands.

The good news ends there as even these light weapons can achieve a penetration of 60mm on steel at 100m using only 5kJ of energy. Penetration capacity vs carbon is significantly worse with composite carbon plating penetrated to a 25mm depth. This renders a large portion of infantry armor questionable in the extreme and is a sign of just how out of depth current small arms are, much less if these systems can be scaled up. The rate of fire is a respectable five blasts a second with an automatic cooling shutdown after twenty shots necessitating some waiting, because of this there appears to be no fully automatic mode available. Variable frequency lenses have been made to allow for changing between eye-safe longer frequencies and more dangerous combat ones with three times the range, but the system seems to never have been used. Experimental programs for the development of armor have come up with some results for resisting these pulse-lasers but there is little hope for an effective response, especially on the vehicle scale.


Tech Gained: Primitive Polymer Capacitors: Several prospective polymers have been developed to improve capacitance through the minimization of inductance and series resistance. These are nowhere near the capacity of alien systems, only capable of a "paltry" discharge of 2 MW/kg compared to alien systems that operate in at least 50 MW/kg but that does not prevent the manufacture of a viable laser weapon, only making it far heavier compared to alien examples. These capacitors are not inherently expensive, only requiring effectively thin plate engineering plastics and high conductivity elements to be constructed and used. Charge is only enough for around a millisecond of operation but that is sufficient for all but the most radical of laser designs. (Reverse Engineered) (Obtained 43 AE)

Tech Gained: Alien Alloy Smelting(Synod/???): The ability to dynamically shape alien alloy from the powered armor suit can theoretically be useful when domestic alternatives to synthetic crystalline structures are developed. Before that though the best that can be done is to reshape it into simple macro forms that have a slightly different presentation. If a copious quantity of alien equipment is captured then maybe something can be done, otherwise the technology is a dead end. (Tech not Listed for Obvious Reasons)


Intelligence Operations:


Operation Quiet Walk: The far right has never been capable of excessive communication discipline and that can be taken advantage of. Formalizing backdoors into most recreational communications as used by the military can create a scandal but is unlikely to be noticed or cared about outside the civilian government. This will give an accurate view of groups through the lowest common denominator of those determined to post their entire lives on social media. These are deeply unlikely to find anything major but will be key for limiting the promotion of radicalized officers. (83)

Thanks to the flexible use of a mixture of kinetic and electronic agents the successful infiltration and backdoor of several highly secure communication apps has gone ahead without issue. Quantum-proof encryption is too much effort to crack but the apps themselves represent a far easier target. Flashdrives with deliberate compromises for their updates have been planted by their hundreds around essential data centers with a concerning penetration rate achieved. Infiltration of the apps has resulted in a wealth of data as those operating on the platforms practice almost negligible digital hygiene leaving entire networks open to direct view and easy to identify to individuals. This wealth of information has brought the issue of PSC infiltration into stark contrast as six representatives have been identified as directly working with military officers, and twenty have been implicated sufficiently to prompt closer investigations. Social media images of officer candidates have been made, with a massive number of disaffected radicals all over the academies, but those have generally been intelligent enough to confine their radicalism to private conversions with friends.


Operation Moldy Vase: The infiltration of the army is happening at some scale from several political and social organizations. Some are comparatively innocent but a large portion represents direct damage to the command and the state's democratic institutions. The key point of entry remains officer school candidates as the enlisted are unlikely to ferment any large movement, leaving the officers the most questionable. Monitoring for officer school posts and social clubs will be essential to filter out the worst candidates and several that are caught can be used as agents for later operations, especially if they are vacillating. (nat 1) (crit fail) (Moderate Political Support Loss)

The mission for infiltration of academies started fairly well with the coordinated deployment of a decentralized network of officer school candidates that reported directly to a decentralized command chain. Most were recruited with the idea of being deniable assets with little information outside of reporting to a handler who would then process information and organize it well. What could not have been predicted is that the very network meant to report information would be brought up to the civilian authorities as an alarming case of some faction attempting to influence the army and directly infiltrate posts at officer academies. The decentralization of our networks ensured that no one got caught but some lower-echelon handlers with almost no information decided to independently report to the civilian government. Almost a dozen politicians have reached out warning on the matter and asking for it to be investigated rapidly due to the sheer threat to the government it represents.


Procurement Decisions:

Generally, phases go from wanting something to a prototype, to low-rate production(LRP), to full-scale production. Once you have a prototype or something in LRP, you can request changes to it to bring it into line with requirements either military or political.

Anti-Orbital SSBN: Learning from past lessons and significantly improving their offerings both BNG and GA have managed to develop their respective areas of the program quickly and successfully. With a degree of prompting and a council of capable submariners assembled on the part of BNG several problems that would crop up with the boat have been fixed while scale models have proven the hull form and material composition. Now that the design is finalized all that is left is to finalize the construction of the Type 44 submarine. Bun currently can lay down four boats at a time with a completion schedule proposed of two boats in the first year and then rapid production of four a year assuming no significant problems occur. Expectations are that RnD costs will be recouped in construction, significantly raising costs if a small order is made. (112) (Artificial Crit)

[]Delay Funding: The army lacks the money needed to fund the technologies in the boats but payments still have to be made to keep Bun solvent and developing systems further. These payments will be far less in amount than a formal contract and will in effect be wasted but as the mobilization of economic assets is still incomplete it is the most that can be done. (150B Or Cost) (Budget decision in the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)

[]Order Twenty-Six Boats: Developing the technology and test examples can be funded now with the contract ensuring that they work before future submarines are ordered. This would fully utilize the yards through the current financial cycle and the next one without funding an expansion. Something of the baseline order expected this would provide enough capacity to have at least sixteen out at any one time patrolling while the others are in refit, allowing a quick mobilization of all but four ships if a rigid schedule for refits is followed in case of emergency. (400B Or Now, 400B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)

[]Order Thirty-Six Boats: Funding the partial expansion of the Bun yards for the construction of submarines will speed up how quickly ships can be delivered. This will mean committing to a contract that in no way can be canceled without endangering the entire order especially if issues crop up in the prototypes. Still, the ability to build more submarines will be essential as a further thirty boats can be added to the fleet across the budget cycle after the next one reinforcing Dannan against any likely alien assault. (400B Or Now, 600B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)


Militarized Orbital Frigate: Systems integration into the new frigate class has proceeded as planned with the design incorporating a secondary reactor core, hardening systems, and a hibernation deck to extend recovery durability. The addition of an inflatable ring around the habitation section that can be jettisoned proved only partially problematic as the thermal load from the radiators hitting it needed some additional mass to manage. All of the modifications to the craft along with dedicated electronics systems in crew sections have increased the size of the inhabited section threefold but they have significantly increased the ship's capabilities. With the reverse engineering of alien rifle capacitors and the development of ultra-high power banks of capacitors the development of pulse lasers has received something of a military priority. Changing the class to use them is still possible at this early stage and it is far better for them to be developed now. Efficiency and thermal properties are likely to be similar but with a massively improved penetration effect compared to continuous systems. (51) (Cost per Unit Cost Expected 90B Or) (Choice of Refit)

[]Build as Is: The laser systems onboard are not expected to be a primary weapon and the use of continuous beams is more than adequate when it comes to point defense roles. A refit will make the craft's least effective weapon far more effective but these are not primary weapon systems making the gains limited as this would only enhance absolute close-range combat capacity with minimal effect at likely engagement ranges, especially as the alien enemy is likely to optimize for anti-laser armor. (No Cost) (No Chance of Delay)

[]Modernize Current Media for Pulse: Current laser systems are more than adequate to function as pulse lasers with some minimal modifications. Incorporating the discharge capacitor banks onto the ship will not take up significant amounts of space, with cooling requirements only moderately increasing along the laser system. The hasty refit will reduce gains from the technology but even then anti-armor capacity of the laser system is expected to increase by more than an order of magnitude. (50B Or Cost) (Little Chance of Delay)

[]Agressivly Develop Polymer Capacitor Lasers: New pulse laser systems need to accompany the new technology and their development will be key for future ships. Entirely new lasing media capable of enduring high-energy pulse trains at the limits of capacitors can create something of a relativistic blaster. The system itself will be optimized for a RoF or around three pulse trains a second to avoid the worst extremes of energy use and maintain acceptable point defense performance. New techniques will be made to keep the lasing media as capable as possible, especially as the thermal load can be applied in pulses rather than continuously. (150B Or Cost) (Chance of Delay) (Possible Laser Tech Roll)


Multirole VTOL: Continued work on the VTOL system has fixed several of the issues in the original AR system, simplifying it for development and allowing for the continuation of development. The turbine at this point is mature along with most of the avionics systems leaving little to be developed outside of the plane's ordinance complex. Current thoughts are towards an all-missile armament, incorporating air-breathing solid fuel ramjets with cumulative heads to ensure the destruction of alien craft. At least eight high-velocity missiles are to be mounted in the bay with a rapid firing pattern and minimal interference to enable saturation attacks on hardened targets. In a more conventional sense or when doing ground support operations more conventional cluster munitions have been revived. The wing pylons are to be ready to support up to two tons each of independent low observability cluster cassettes or planned hypersonic nuclear ordinance. The theoretical need for a gun in case of lacking the capability to engage with radar has been proposed and incorporated with a 30mm cannon built into the nose to give the airframe some chance in case alien stealth technologies are far greater than our own. (57)


Standardization of Orbital Troops: Taking advantage of a commission of forty spacers, sixteen different institutes of technical development capable of rapid prototyping, and the wealth of experience available a new generation of suits has been built. The entire system is based on unified hardware in the form of a helmet display system, an intermediate atmospheric controller, and a standardized series of batteries, cartridges, and thermal hookups to improve spare parts capacity. Control systems have been made triple redundant rather than the one point of redundancy used on post-war suits. Eye tracking menus can be operated directly, an MMI interlink can be connected in, with an arm-mounted tablet used as a backup and screen-based mirror for operations outside conventional vision range. The standardized rebreather present on all suits can manage a six-hour operational duration with a single cartridge with oxygen limitations built two tanks capable of providing oxygen for eight hours each. Both components of the system can be swapped flexibly in the field along with valves designed to allow for its expansion. (73)

The EVA suit and its accompanying variations designed for either orbital combat or asteroid mining have both been designed as a single incorporated system. Both feature doubled-up mounts for life support resources to maintain prolonged operations in hazardous environments. The EVA and Mining variations are built around an RCS backpack being integrated into the design with automatic stabilization and power supply systems built in for the operation of tools or heavy equipment. The only significant difference between the two is in the boots and expanded harness rigging to allow for the transportation of a massive number of explosives for use in rock-cracking. Combat suits have been rationalized to directly fight power armor and come out ahead, space-adapted variations of the Type 17 HMG in 15x120 have been designed with some lightening, allowing an integration into the suit. To solve challenging reloading issues feeds have been changed to a drum, increasing the chance of jams but removing the fine-manipulation demands necessary for a belt feed. Armor for the system has been built out of more compact ceramic-carbon plating as weight allowances are secondary to corridor mobility. All aiming is expected to be done by a mixture of AR optic and tracer fire, as there are few ways to mount an effective optic that can be used from a fully enclosed helmet otherwise.

Operations on planetary or lunar environments pose several further challenges for the design of space suits, as gravity and weight become major factors. To amend this the suit itself has been designed for a minimum weight application with it primarily based around a more thermally capable baseline variation, incorporating an internally reflective layer and a thermal undergarment to maintain body temperature on colder planets. Hot world capability is nearly non-existent but that cannot be fixed while keeping to the necessary mass budgets for easy operation in a 0.5g world. The combat variant program has managed to pioneer a new type of composite armor to better protect against pulse lasers that are likely to spread to all new armor systems. The use of a high-expansion plastic embedded with small boron-ceramic particles offers a lightweight if bulky way of degrading laser fire. Protection has been centered across the torso and head ensuring that the entire gas system is protected behind the plating. Sideways replacements are not the most comfortable but anyone from the war will be more than used to the system.

[]Replace Old Units: Older suits are useless for unprotected deathtraps but they have functioned for the better part of three decades at this point. As they wear out the worst examples can be replaced by modern Type 43 systems without too much issue. In a decade most of the force will be modernized except for some stations, saving money on a new procurement program and allowing it to happen naturally. (No Cost) (Finishes Program)

[]Accelerated Replacement: Retiring suits in service on warships and those directly involved with heavy EVA activity need to be prioritized. As the mining ships are built they will be equipped with new suits along with the exploration craft that are currently being constructed in the slipways. Colonies will receive them second, likely changing over before the start of the new budget cycle outside emergency supplies. From there as suits age out they can be easily replaced with few logistical issues. (20B Or Cost) (Finishes Program)

[]Agressive Modernization Program: The Type 06 suit is a deathtrap in every respect and the sooner it is replaced the better for the entire force. Active forces will get priority allocations of Type 43 suits but the stations need modernization as well. Ramping up production as quickly as possible based on the old suits is possible and conducting a deep inventory modernization will bring everyone to the same standard of capability. There are still going to be some Type 06 suits in inventory for emergency use, but those are secondary and will be replaced in a decade anyway. (50B Or Cost) (Finishes Program)


Second Generation Infantry Equipment: Tested samples of alien armor have indicated that the central plate has durability well over any domestically produced material. Lirrir's use of heavy autocannons has some promise but they need to have adequate portability for use as a mainline rifle, further, the limitations of current arms will have them do negligible amounts of lethal damage. Grenades are expected to if anything fare worse as conventional fragmentation coatings are going to do negligible amounts of damage to anyone in a basic protective covering much less the available powered suits. Available machine guns are inadequate but that stems from similar principles and issues as infantry equipment. Further, the significant blinding effect of the laser rifle practically necessitates a full AR system as a bare minimum, favoring an enclosed suit in a similar design to wartime units. Current procurement options primarily look at the level of small arms with programs for supporting weapons to be initiated next year. The only bright spot is that any armament selected can be easily adapted to orbital use through altered propellants and HEANF(High Entropy Alloy Nitride Film) coatings, eliminating welding and keeping the continuity of arms. (8) (Select a Weapon and an Armor moving it to LRP)

[]Heavy Anti-Armor Rifle: Polymer Saboted 15x120mm cartridges can generate enough penetrative power to piece most elements of alien frontal plates. Incorporating the previous HMG round into a combat rifle poses a significant challenge but Curach Machining Plant has come up with several innovative solutions. The fourteen-kilogram battle rifle is equipped with a sixteen-round dual stack magazine along with an advanced recoil-damping moving internal frame and a finely machined muzzle break. Polymer furniture with standardized mounting brackets has already been developed with a Lunos hunting optic mounted derivative, incorporating continuous and discontinuous automatic adjustment modes with full AR image integration. A bullpup design has been required to balance the rifle and obtain enough barrel length for optimal firing in confined conditions, but this is similar to wartime systems. (5B Or Cost)

[]DMR Modernizations: Taking a more conventional route for military development, a modernized 10x84mm platform has been judged as adequate for most roles. The alien power armor is still vulnerable in some frontal areas and the removal of limbs should render them combat ineffective. The modernization of the round will go along the lines of the newest generation of Polymer Saboted rounds along with a bimetallic case for avoiding excessively increasing ammunition loads. The rifle itself is a long barrel bullpup with standard furniture and the same Lunos optic standard for most entrants along with dual-stacked thirty-round magazines. The innovative part of the rifle comes in with the development of a novel firing mechanism, repeating the second round on target at an instantaneous fire rate of 3000rpm. HKG has demonstrated the prototype with a reliable application of both rounds on target, but the rifle is mechanically complex and lacks frontal aspect penetrating power. (10B Or Cost)

[]Variable Fire Rate: Conventional ammunition systems have been used for a long time and there isn't that much need to innovate. While the 6.5x52mm has deficiencies in penetration even against conventional armor its comparatively lower recoil impulse and light weight offer several advantages. A full polymer case can make the transport of ammunition as light as possible while moving to a polymer-jacketed tungsten sabot can enhance penetration sufficiently to threaten soft sections. The Avalon Industrial Trust offering for the caliber is to a large point a derivative gun from the Type 45 rifle used in the war, keeping the conventional feed system and improving recoil control. The strong counter-action ensures the stability of automatic fire while the sixty-round coffin mag allows for compact packaging of ammunition. The effective sale point of the rifle is the variable rate of fire, allowing a solider to shoot at 450rpm in a stable position or 2100rpm in an unstable one. AR and targeting integration has been done in-house with frontal mounts directly borrowed from the wartime rifle, making it theoretically cheaper to procure if not significantly. (10B Or Cost)

[]High Precision Developments: Lunos has the second least conventional offering with a development on the Type 39 DMR incorporating several lessons learned and an advanced targeting system. Variability of the barrel assembly allows for a degree of independence in targeting, and borrowing technical developments from conventionally armored technologies. The rifle adopts the same 10x84mm polymer sabot rounds in a bimetalic case as the HKG offering but instead of a hyperburst capability promises unmatched precision. The adjustment of the targeting mechanism to 25 MoA along with an electro-optical/IR contrast optic can enable the laying down of the high-precision fire. The rifle itself is inherently complicated and more of a fielded computer with a rifle mechanism attached but the ability to finally eliminate any cause of imprecision through high-quality targeting has demonstrated sub 0.5 MoA accuracy under combat conditions if a lock can be made. The rifle is the longest and has a bullpup design but it may be able to defeat the aliens through the weight of high-accuracy fire. (15B Or Cost)

[]Grenade Launcher Derivatives: The Medach Industrial Concern has proposed and demonstrated the radical idea of using a modified grenade launcher cartridge for an advanced rifle concept. The rifle itself is almost eleven kilograms with a ten-round magazine but the round itself partially compensates for its relative deficiencies. The 25x60mm cartridge can incorporate a variety of payloads ranging from the primary cumulative munition to instant laser-fused proximity munitions with the former being delivered at 450m/s onto targets, reducing range but not excessively. The inherent need to compensate for the drop of heavier rounds has already been integrated into the optic, improving field capacity to hit targets. This in itself is a radical departure from conventional designs but it promises to entirely revolutionize anti-material armaments. The gun is the least controllable or accurate of the entrants, but it promises to pierce even the primary protective plate of the sampled power armor. (15B Or Cost)


Armor Development:

[]Light Armor Systems:
The need to integrate a full AR system along with comprehensive chemical protection has limited what can be done with current-generation systems. Theoretically, a sealed suit with a limited degree of external cooling and a full seal can be developed without issue. Building on the assumption that the alien weapons will penetrate most armor that can be fielded, only light protection against fragments will be built into the new generation of infantry equipment. Standardized AR visors with full visibility and selective datalinks will be built as a unified helmet-mask combination with venting provisions for non-chemical environments to maintain thermal control. Protection across the front will be negligible but the significant mounting space left for rebreather and rigging will allow for more ammunition and mask cartridges to be carried while keeping costs low. (15B Or Cost)

[]Wartime Developments: Derivative off wartime kit for a new generation of armor is sensible and a proven method of design. Seelie during the war had few issues wearing an adequate amount of equipment in the heaviest conditions and that can still be maintained without compromising dismounted mobility. Plans call for a helmet comprised of thicker plating with some integral ablator for glancing exposures and to minimize pulse-train width in case of penetration. A central body cavity plate without shoulder coverage will be built out of a mixture of high-density plastic foam impregnated with boron nitride particles to resist exposure to laser weapons as powerful as the captured rifle. Exposure will cause a revealing cloud of particulate to be released but that will avoid the creation of a 10cm wide disrupted cavity through the body on impact. Gas protection will be built in with a standard armored rig incorporating a rebreather, offering a capable compromise on protection. (25B Or Cost) (Expensive)

[]Heavy Armored Program: Increasing the load on soldiers who are going to use vehicles for the majority of transport is a logical development of previous tactics. The current program calls for the use of far heavier mixed material plating across the entire upper torso with some limited leg protection to defend against hemodynamic threat vectors. This will increase the weight of the plating alone to almost thirty kilograms with most of the rebreather system outside emergency backups placed behind the plate with side access. Magazine storage is to be on the front along with general equipment, using a backpack to balance the general system. Increasing the weight allowance and the capacity for mounting equipment on the rear allows for the incorporation of a cooling system, keeping the wearer at a comfortable temperature as long as the armor is not in power conservation mode. The helmet AR system is also armored further with primary frontal blocks allowing for at least one beam exposure from the front. (30B Or Cost) (Expensive)

[]Power-Assisted Armor: Load-assistance devices have a storied history of operation with special forces units and there is little reason that they cannot be produced for a mainline equipment set. Moving towards even heavier armored plating and a significant number of batteries can allow for significantly longer operational ranges. Assistance would reduce instability when standing and effectively support the majority of the equipment weight in stable and unstable positions. The largest advantage of this would be adequate frontal armor to protect organs against bolts of significantly higher power if alien developments have incrementally improved their capability. Armor protection on the head can also be made adequate through a more closed system to resist similar bolts, providing near-total protection against immediately lethal fire. Primary rebreather systems will be located beneath the front plate while cooling, recharge, storage, and secondary systems will be moved rearward to reduce weight loadings. Total system weight is unlikely to exceed 90kg and IFV loadings will have to be modified for bulkier equipment but even a semi-powered system provides a good basis with which to match the enemy. (60B Or Cost) (Very Expensive)



Politics:


Increase Staffwork Intensity: Terrestrial commands need far more intensive staff work training and the conducting of several large-scale exercises to improve force discipline and allow for a minimal training standard. The officers and enlisted will not enjoy getting dragged around for days of large-scale maneuvers but it will be essential to get the army in any shape prepared for an alien invasion. Current budgetary allotments will be sufficient to cover the period, but the backpay and wear-on equipment will have to be paid for out of the next budgetary cycle. (+0.15 Operational Costs Modifier) (91)

Biannual divisional maneuvers have been organized for all associated army groups with cross-army exercises organized on a semi-annual basis to keep internal lessons fresh. These maneuvers will cost fuel and time but the enlisted are getting paid for a reason and combined operations will at least break in the new army. Limitations in mobilization and the deployment of troops will mean that wherever an alien force lands, the armies on site will likely be the principal response force rather than specialized units whose task will be to sprint to overwhelm the landing zones. Testing and evaluations for larger-scale maneuvers including practicing mobilizational orders to contest an alien landing site still need to be performed at a massive economic cost but that is a concern only once the most basic staff work can be drilled into green commanders.


Naval Exercise Formalization: Naval training has been ignored in favor of engineering and basic crew skills under peacetime conditions. This has caused the orbital fleet to be incapable of tracking simple targets much less managing to competently engage anything approaching an alien threat. Current technical work on improving the standards for the navy will take time but it is nothing that herbal drinks and the lash cannot eventually solve. The Crews may be worn ragged as they break away from a more peaceful era and develop into a capable naval force. (+0.10 Operational Costs Modifier) (104)

Elite redfor teams have been able to significantly whip the orbital fleet into shape with punishments meted out for those unable to follow orders or maintain adequate launch discipline. Exercises on the detection of shuttlecraft along with aggressive burns conducted by them on an independent ship level have started to be regularly run. Damage control drills have also accompanied them to ensure that every sailor has some hope of mending their craft even if entirely disabled. The use of smaller arguably stealthier shuttles is within detectability and ensuring a harsher practice will ensure that discipline is maintained against an actual alien threat. The worst officers in the force have also started to be rotated out with updated tactical writing pushed to the academy. The rapid changes in combat are no different from the introduction of the anti-ship missile or adequate plasma stealth, leaving those officers who cannot adapt useless for promotion.


Military-Diplomatic Mission to the Lirrir: With investigators set to set back out towards Kuriuq sometime next year a formal military mission needs to be organized. Several capable officers can be sent to liaise with local military forces to determine what exactly is needed and report on any direct combat perspectives with alien forces. The main goal of the mission will be to communicate doctrinal and operational concepts and improve Lirrir's hardiness in the case of larger-scale nuclear war along with offering a diplomatically neutral military instruction core for their organizing confederation's armed forces. (50B Or Cost) (43)

The limited capacity on any ship sent to the Lirrir has been significant as there is little that can be done in a short timeframe. Combined with the scientific, diplomatic, and educational missions that are being assembled to transit on the Investigator with crew-extension military training personnel have been restricted to only twenty. Two of these are staff capable commanders that have proven adequate if unexceptional in exercise with the remainder capable instructors for teaching Lirrir modern doctrine and approaches. Several demonstration weapons and ATGM's adapted for the battlefield are to be shipped across with several printers and older chip-making machinery. Modernizing their military to the point that it can combat a full-scale alien threat larger than a few hundred mercenaries will be the work of decades, but with new technologies, discipline, and education that can be overcome. The largest goal so far has been the transfer of battery technologies as simple sodium units can entirely revolutionize their power grid and finally enable them to go towards a mechanized agricultural stage, freeing hundreds of millions from unproductive toil.


Strike Underperforming Politically Incapable Commanders: PSC loyal commands are all over the place and by mostly targeting retirements on them a significant number of otherwise disloyal elements can be directly removed. These will have second and further removals to provide some cover but the fundamental truth is that it has been mostly younger commanders that have failed. Any change in the organizational structure will come with political pushback and costs but there is no better time than now to justifiably remove fascists from army structures. (Mild Political Gain) (Mild Army Unity Decrease) (38)

The absolute most incompetent personnel along with those incapable of improvement due to an inability to cooperate with the command structure have been removed from their posts with a larger amount restricted from advancement. PSC members have been targeted incidentally with the effort clearing out a significant portion of the younger commanders that could not be adequately instructed in the time and resources available. More exercises could have likely salvaged decent officers out of them, if not decent people. These changes have led to the PSC formally adopting the line of treating the military as a hidebound organ that needs to be modernized but few have believed their genuine nature. Ironically enough the old officers have taken this to be more a failure of the youths than any form of targeted politics as the reputation of young commanders untested by the war is nearly universally negative.



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The mission for infiltration of academies started fairly well with the coordinated deployment of a decentralized network of officer school candidates that reported directly to a decentralized command chain. Most were recruited with the idea of being deniable assets with little information outside of reporting to a handler who would then process information and organize it well. What could not have been predicted is that the very network meant to report information would be brought up to the civilian authorities as an alarming case of some faction attempting to influence the army and directly infiltrate posts at officer academies. The decentralization of our networks ensured that no one got caught but some lower-echelon handlers with almost no information decided to independently report to the civilian government. Almost a dozen politicians have reached out warning on the matter and asking for it to be investigated rapidly due to the sheer threat to the government it represents.
So Department 4 was asked to look into whoever's controlling these infiltrators?
[]Order Twenty-Six Boats: Developing the technology and test examples can be funded now with the contract ensuring that they work before future submarines are ordered. This would fully utilize the yards through the current financial cycle and the next one without funding an expansion. Something of the baseline order expected this would provide enough capacity to have at least sixteen out at any one time patrolling while the others are in refit, allowing a quick mobilization of all but four ships if a rigid schedule for refits is followed in case of emergency. (400B Or Now, 400B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)

[]Order Thirty-Six Boats: Funding the partial expansion of the Bun yards for the construction of submarines will speed up how quickly ships can be delivered. This will mean committing to a contract that in no way can be canceled without endangering the entire order especially if issues crop up in the prototypes. Still, the ability to build more submarines will be essential as a further thirty boats can be added to the fleet across the budget cycle after the next one reinforcing Dannan against any likely alien assault. (400B Or Now, 600B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)
I suppose a big question here is if we think tech will develop enough in six years but not nine that a whole new class of subs would be worth investing in.
 
[]Heavy Anti-Armor Rifle: Polymer Saboted 15x120mm cartridges can generate enough penetrative power to piece most elements of alien frontal plates. Incorporating the previous HMG round into a combat rifle poses a significant challenge but Curach Machining Plant has come up with several innovative solutions. The fourteen-kilogram battle rifle is equipped with a sixteen-round dual stack magazine along with an advanced recoil-damping moving internal frame and a finely machined muzzle break. Polymer furniture with standardized mounting brackets has already been developed with a Lunos hunting optic mounted derivative, incorporating continuous and discontinuous automatic adjustment modes with full AR image integration. A bullpup design has been required to balance the rifle and obtain enough barrel length for optimal firing in confined conditions, but this is similar to wartime systems. (5B Or Cost)

[]DMR Modernizations: Taking a more conventional route for military development, a modernized 10x84mm platform has been judged as adequate for most roles. The alien power armor is still vulnerable in some frontal areas and the removal of limbs should render them combat ineffective. The modernization of the round will go along the lines of the newest generation of Polymer Saboted rounds along with a bimetallic case for avoiding excessively increasing ammunition loads. The rifle itself is a long barrel bullpup with standard furniture and the same Lunos optic standard for most entrants along with dual-stacked thirty-round magazines. The innovative part of the rifle comes in with the development of a novel firing mechanism, repeating the second round on target at an instantaneous fire rate of 3000rpm. HKG has demonstrated the prototype with a reliable application of both rounds on target, but the rifle is mechanically complex and lacks frontal aspect penetrating power. (10B Or Cost)

[]Variable Fire Rate: Conventional ammunition systems have been used for a long time and there isn't that much need to innovate. While the 6.5x52mm has deficiencies in penetration even against conventional armor its comparatively lower recoil impulse and light weight offer several advantages. A full polymer case can make the transport of ammunition as light as possible while moving to a polymer-jacketed tungsten sabot can enhance penetration sufficiently to threaten soft sections. The Avalon Industrial Trust offering for the caliber is to a large point a derivative gun from the Type 45 rifle used in the war, keeping the conventional feed system and improving recoil control. The strong counter-action ensures the stability of automatic fire while the sixty-round coffin mag allows for compact packaging of ammunition. The effective sale point of the rifle is the variable rate of fire, allowing a solider to shoot at 450rpm in a stable position or 2100rpm in an unstable one. AR and targeting integration has been done in-house with frontal mounts directly borrowed from the wartime rifle, making it theoretically cheaper to procure if not significantly. (10B Or Cost)

[]High Precision Developments: Lunos has the second least conventional offering with a development on the Type 39 DMR incorporating several lessons learned and an advanced targeting system. Variability of the barrel assembly allows for a degree of independence in targeting, and borrowing technical developments from conventionally armored technologies. The rifle adopts the same 10x84mm polymer sabot rounds in a bimetalic case as the HKG offering but instead of a hyperburst capability promises unmatched precision. The adjustment of the targeting mechanism to 25 MoA along with an electro-optical/IR contrast optic can enable the laying down of the high-precision fire. The rifle itself is inherently complicated and more of a fielded computer with a rifle mechanism attached but the ability to finally eliminate any cause of imprecision through high-quality targeting has demonstrated sub 0.5 MoA accuracy under combat conditions if a lock can be made. The rifle is the longest and has a bullpup design but it may be able to defeat the aliens through the weight of high-accuracy fire. (15B Or Cost)

[]Grenade Launcher Derivatives: The Medach Industrial Concern has proposed and demonstrated the radical idea of using a modified grenade launcher cartridge for an advanced rifle concept. The rifle itself is almost eleven kilograms with a ten-round magazine but the round itself partially compensates for its relative deficiencies. The 25x60mm cartridge can incorporate a variety of payloads ranging from the primary cumulative munition to instant laser-fused proximity munitions with the former being delivered at 450m/s onto targets, reducing range but not excessively. The inherent need to compensate for the drop of heavier rounds has already been integrated into the optic, improving field capacity to hit targets. This in itself is a radical departure from conventional designs but it promises to entirely revolutionize anti-material armaments. The gun is the least controllable or accurate of the entrants, but it promises to pierce even the primary protective plate of the sampled power armor. (15B Or Cost)
Hmm, my thoughts on these gun options are that, in terms of trying to make a standard rifle meant to take on the alien power armor we have samples of, the best ones for that task are either the big ass brick firing HMG rounds, the super accurate smart rifle, or the high velocity grenade launcher. Repectively trying to tackle that problem through just a very high energy bullet, reliably shooting weak points in the armor that aren't as protected, or moving away from kinetic projectiles entirely. This does result in them all also being heavy, bulky, or both.

The hyperburst rifle strikes me as more of a compromise design, trying to still reliably put 10mm bullets in weak spots through shooting multiple per single trigger pull while not spending mass and bulk on unnecessarily overkill capabilities for light targets should it find itself going up against them. Such as, say, a fascist coup attempt, or that unrest in the northern policing area.

With just a 6.5mm round and that fire rate, it feels like Avalon's offered us a dedicated rebel mulcher.

Obviously if trying to take out power armored alien infantry with this standard rifle takes precedence over everything here one of the first three I mentioned is our best bet. But with it confirmed that we are looking at further support weapons being started on next year the other two options (DMR mostly really) might possibly not be as bad a pick here for the standard rifle as they first appear? Or if we think we might run into signifigant amounts of non-power armored alien infantry, but given even the PMC the Lirrir fought a century ago had them for troops I don't expect that to be the case.
 
The weight of the carbine is a meager three and a half kilograms, incorporating a lasing aperture, battery, and capacitor bank into a tiny weapon frame made of ultra-durable composites that cannot be homogeneously replicated if one far less advanced than those that make up the cube as the composition is identifiable.
So, about the same weight as an M4 carbine.

By comparison, the weight of a fully loaded M16A4 rifle (complete with magazine and the sling you carry it with) is about 8.8 pounds or four kilograms, a fully loaded M14 battle rifle weighed five kilograms.

Whoever designed this laser rifle was probably designing the laser equivalent of an M4. Given that sapient species in the galaxy seem fairly diverse as to strength and physique, it's not surprising that the 'typical' Galactic infantry weapon would be kind of a lowest common denominator. Especially since I gather that there may at some point have been some intention on the Synod's part of handing weapons like this to Lirrir sepoys, who I gather are smol.

The mission for infiltration of academies started fairly well with the coordinated deployment of a decentralized network of officer school candidates that reported directly to a decentralized command chain. Most were recruited with the idea of being deniable assets with little information outside of reporting to a handler who would then process information and organize it well. What could not have been predicted is that the very network meant to report information would be brought up to the civilian authorities as an alarming case of some faction attempting to influence the army and directly infiltrate posts at officer academies. The decentralization of our networks ensured that no one got caught but some lower-echelon handlers with almost no information decided to independently report to the civilian government. Almost a dozen politicians have reached out warning on the matter and asking for it to be investigated rapidly due to the sheer threat to the government it represents.
Well, crapbaskets.

The good news is that we can hope to finesse this by pointing out that we had created this network in an attempt to monitor the exact problems we already had clues about. For instance, we can point to the social media profiles of select military cadets, on a level that hopefully doesn't reveal any illegal skimming on our part; there have assuredly been SOME cadets who were indiscreet enough that our efforts to investigate will merely appear overzealous.

The bad news is that somewhere in this process, the far right is tooootally going to find out that we're generally hacking and investigating their penetration of the military.

I may be missing something here, but this crit doesn't seem that bad.

[]Delay Funding: The army lacks the money needed to fund the technologies in the boats but payments still have to be made to keep Bun solvent and developing systems further. These payments will be far less in amount than a formal contract and will in effect be wasted but as the mobilization of economic assets is still incomplete it is the most that can be done. (150B Or Cost) (Budget decision in the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)

[]Order Twenty-Six Boats: Developing the technology and test examples can be funded now with the contract ensuring that they work before future submarines are ordered. This would fully utilize the yards through the current financial cycle and the next one without funding an expansion. Something of the baseline order expected this would provide enough capacity to have at least sixteen out at any one time patrolling while the others are in refit, allowing a quick mobilization of all but four ships if a rigid schedule for refits is followed in case of emergency. (400B Or Now, 400B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)

[]Order Thirty-Six Boats: Funding the partial expansion of the Bun yards for the construction of submarines will speed up how quickly ships can be delivered. This will mean committing to a contract that in no way can be canceled without endangering the entire order especially if issues crop up in the prototypes. Still, the ability to build more submarines will be essential as a further thirty boats can be added to the fleet across the budget cycle after the next one reinforcing Dannan against any likely alien assault. (400B Or Now, 600B Or from the next budget) (Finishes Procurement)
Hmmm. This is a toughie. We have no idea when the first alien threat might show up. People who have a better handle on the budget situation should probably make this call.

A big part of the question is, is the current generation of orbital defense submarine the kind we want to use, or do we view it as a prototype for a future system we like better and a basis for development?

If this is just "the shape of ships to come" and we want further ambitious modifications to the design, then we absolutely don't want to buy 36 of the things and should seriously consider just paying the 150 gigabucks for the prototype development and then paying Bun to develop a better one.

If we actually intend these as a serious chunk of Danaan's orbital defense network for the next several decades, then we should probably go ahead and buy 36 with the serious intent of buying more, because if the balloon goes up we could absolutely use a lot more than 36.

[]Build as Is: The laser systems onboard are not expected to be a primary weapon and the use of continuous beams is more than adequate when it comes to point defense roles. A refit will make the craft's least effective weapon far more effective but these are not primary weapon systems making the gains limited as this would only enhance absolute close-range combat capacity with minimal effect at likely engagement ranges, especially as the alien enemy is likely to optimize for anti-laser armor. (No Cost) (No Chance of Delay)

[]Modernize Current Media for Pulse: Current laser systems are more than adequate to function as pulse lasers with some minimal modifications. Incorporating the discharge capacitor banks onto the ship will not take up significant amounts of space, with cooling requirements only moderately increasing along the laser system. The hasty refit will reduce gains from the technology but even then anti-armor capacity of the laser system is expected to increase by more than an order of magnitude. (50B Or Cost) (Little Chance of Delay)

[]Agressivly Develop Polymer Capacitor Lasers: New pulse laser systems need to accompany the new technology and their development will be key for future ships. Entirely new lasing media capable of enduring high-energy pulse trains at the limits of capacitors can create something of a relativistic blaster. The system itself will be optimized for a RoF or around three pulse trains a second to avoid the worst extremes of energy use and maintain acceptable point defense performance. New techniques will be made to keep the lasing media as capable as possible, especially as the thermal load can be applied in pulses rather than continuously. (150B Or Cost) (Chance of Delay) (Possible Laser Tech Roll)
Hm. If I really expected us to get hit right away I'd be opposed to the last option, but I kind of like the last option as-is. We're still in the "building workable tools" phase. And I get the feeling that we're really, really going to need high performance lasers for shipboard missile defense at some point.

Multirole VTOL: Continued work on the VTOL system has fixed several of the issues in the original AR system, simplifying it for development and allowing for the continuation of development. The turbine at this point is mature along with most of the avionics systems leaving little to be developed outside of the plane's ordinance complex. Current thoughts are towards an all-missile armament, incorporating air-breathing solid fuel ramjets with cumulative heads to ensure the destruction of alien craft. At least eight high-velocity missiles are to be mounted in the bay with a rapid firing pattern and minimal interference to enable saturation attacks on hardened targets. In a more conventional sense or when doing ground support operations more conventional cluster munitions have been revived. The wing pylons are to be ready to support up to two tons each of independent low observability cluster cassettes or planned hypersonic nuclear ordinance. The theoretical need for a gun in case of lacking the capability to engage with radar has been proposed and incorporated with a 30mm cannon built into the nose to give the airframe some chance in case alien stealth technologies are far greater than our own. (57)
Real talk, those 30mm cannons aren't going to be worth shit against alien craft capable of any kind of endo-atmospheric self defense, but who knows, we might be able to outnumber them literally 100 to 1 and mob them enough to score occasional gun kills, especially if they rely heavily on flying utility vehicles and whatnot.

[]Replace Old Units: Older suits are useless for unprotected deathtraps but they have functioned for the better part of three decades at this point. As they wear out the worst examples can be replaced by modern Type 43 systems without too much issue. In a decade most of the force will be modernized except for some stations, saving money on a new procurement program and allowing it to happen naturally. (No Cost) (Finishes Program)

[]Accelerated Replacement: Retiring suits in service on warships and those directly involved with heavy EVA activity need to be prioritized. As the mining ships are built they will be equipped with new suits along with the exploration craft that are currently being constructed in the slipways. Colonies will receive them second, likely changing over before the start of the new budget cycle outside emergency supplies. From there as suits age out they can be easily replaced with few logistical issues. (20B Or Cost) (Finishes Program)

[]Agressive Modernization Program: The Type 06 suit is a deathtrap in every respect and the sooner it is replaced the better for the entire force. Active forces will get priority allocations of Type 43 suits but the stations need modernization as well. Ramping up production as quickly as possible based on the old suits is possible and conducting a deep inventory modernization will bring everyone to the same standard of capability. There are still going to be some Type 06 suits in inventory for emergency use, but those are secondary and will be replaced in a decade anyway. (50B Or Cost) (Finishes Program)
I'd say that unless the Type 06 is much more dangerous than I hope it is, we should go with the first of these options, or the second if we have spare cash and nothing obvious to do with it.

Further, the significant blinding effect of the laser rifle practically necessitates a full AR system as a bare minimum, favoring an enclosed suit in a similar design to wartime units.
Well, at least we have practical experience dealing with laser blinding equipment from the nuclear war, I guess.

[]Heavy Anti-Armor Rifle: Polymer Saboted 15x120mm cartridges can generate enough penetrative power to piece most elements of alien frontal plates. Incorporating the previous HMG round into a combat rifle poses a significant challenge but Curach Machining Plant has come up with several innovative solutions. The fourteen-kilogram battle rifle is equipped with a sixteen-round dual stack magazine along with an advanced recoil-damping moving internal frame and a finely machined muzzle break. Polymer furniture with standardized mounting brackets has already been developed with a Lunos hunting optic mounted derivative, incorporating continuous and discontinuous automatic adjustment modes with full AR image integration. A bullpup design has been required to balance the rifle and obtain enough barrel length for optimal firing in confined conditions, but this is similar to wartime systems. (5B Or Cost)
Can our guys even carry this shit? Fourteen kilograms for a 'battle rifle.' That's a lot heavier than I thought. Just how swole are our guys?

[]High Precision Developments: Lunos has the second least conventional offering with a development on the Type 39 DMR incorporating several lessons learned and an advanced targeting system. Variability of the barrel assembly allows for a degree of independence in targeting, and borrowing technical developments from conventionally armored technologies. The rifle adopts the same 10x84mm polymer sabot rounds in a bimetalic case as the HKG offering but instead of a hyperburst capability promises unmatched precision. The adjustment of the targeting mechanism to 25 MoA along with an electro-optical/IR contrast optic can enable the laying down of the high-precision fire. The rifle itself is inherently complicated and more of a fielded computer with a rifle mechanism attached but the ability to finally eliminate any cause of imprecision through high-quality targeting has demonstrated sub 0.5 MoA accuracy under combat conditions if a lock can be made. The rifle is the longest and has a bullpup design but it may be able to defeat the aliens through the weight of high-accuracy fire. (15B Or Cost)
Hm. This is probably not useful as a rifle for grunts who might actually have to mix it up with alien power armor at close range.

But it might be very useful if we can take the same technology and adapt it into, say, a robot gun turret or remote weapon system. Something where the fact that the odds are that the best you can do with your precision fire is crack their optics block or damage their rifle doesn't really matter, because you still come out ahead even if enemy return fire blows the firing platform clean off.

I'd kind of like to see this alongside one of the other options, but I guess we can't do that.

[]Grenade Launcher Derivatives: The Medach Industrial Concern has proposed and demonstrated the radical idea of using a modified grenade launcher cartridge for an advanced rifle concept. The rifle itself is almost eleven kilograms with a ten-round magazine but the round itself partially compensates for its relative deficiencies. The 25x60mm cartridge can incorporate a variety of payloads ranging from the primary cumulative munition to instant laser-fused proximity munitions with the former being delivered at 450m/s onto targets, reducing range but not excessively. The inherent need to compensate for the drop of heavier rounds has already been integrated into the optic, improving field capacity to hit targets. This in itself is a radical departure from conventional designs but it promises to entirely revolutionize anti-material armaments. The gun is the least controllable or accurate of the entrants, but it promises to pierce even the primary protective plate of the sampled power armor. (15B Or Cost)
This is an interesting option, but the weight is surprising. Infantry might love this weapon even if it doesn't become the standard service arm.

Armor Development:

[]Light Armor Systems:
The need to integrate a full AR system along with comprehensive chemical protection has limited what can be done with current-generation systems. Theoretically, a sealed suit with a limited degree of external cooling and a full seal can be developed without issue. Building on the assumption that the alien weapons will penetrate most armor that can be fielded, only light protection against fragments will be built into the new generation of infantry equipment. Standardized AR visors with full visibility and selective datalinks will be built as a unified helmet-mask combination with venting provisions for non-chemical environments to maintain thermal control. Protection across the front will be negligible but the significant mounting space left for rebreather and rigging will allow for more ammunition and mask cartridges to be carried while keeping costs low. (15B Or Cost)

[]Wartime Developments: Derivative off wartime kit for a new generation of armor is sensible and a proven method of design. Seelie during the war had few issues wearing an adequate amount of equipment in the heaviest conditions and that can still be maintained without compromising dismounted mobility. Plans call for a helmet comprised of thicker plating with some integral ablator for glancing exposures and to minimize pulse-train width in case of penetration. A central body cavity plate without shoulder coverage will be built out of a mixture of high-density plastic foam impregnated with boron nitride particles to resist exposure to laser weapons as powerful as the captured rifle. Exposure will cause a revealing cloud of particulate to be released but that will avoid the creation of a 10cm wide disrupted cavity through the body on impact. Gas protection will be built in with a standard armored rig incorporating a rebreather, offering a capable compromise on protection. (25B Or Cost) (Expensive)
I think the "light" option would be appealing if we could always count on overwhelming numbers up against tiny numbers of alien infantry at the point of contact, but we may have to, say, fight them on a space station or something.

The wartime design sounds good.

(it will be hilarious if we overadapt to Synod laser rifles and we end up in firefights with some other alien species that just uses railguns for everything)

[]Heavy Armored Program: Increasing the load on soldiers who are going to use vehicles for the majority of transport is a logical development of previous tactics. The current program calls for the use of far heavier mixed material plating across the entire upper torso with some limited leg protection to defend against hemodynamic threat vectors. This will increase the weight of the plating alone to almost thirty kilograms with most of the rebreather system outside emergency backups placed behind the plate with side access. Magazine storage is to be on the front along with general equipment, using a backpack to balance the general system. Increasing the weight allowance and the capacity for mounting equipment on the rear allows for the incorporation of a cooling system, keeping the wearer at a comfortable temperature as long as the armor is not in power conservation mode. The helmet AR system is also armored further with primary frontal blocks allowing for at least one beam exposure from the front. (30B Or Cost) (Expensive)
Hm. Not bad, and a logical extension of the basic system. Realistically, our first generation of "able to engage Galactic infantry in combat" troops will be a mix of defensive garrison troops and vehicle-mobile units rushed in to counter landing attempts, so being able to do a ruck march in this stuff isn't a major handicap.

[]Power-Assisted Armor: Load-assistance devices have a storied history of operation with special forces units and there is little reason that they cannot be produced for a mainline equipment set. Moving towards even heavier armored plating and a significant number of batteries can allow for significantly longer operational ranges. Assistance would reduce instability when standing and effectively support the majority of the equipment weight in stable and unstable positions. The largest advantage of this would be adequate frontal armor to protect organs against bolts of significantly higher power if alien developments have incrementally improved their capability. Armor protection on the head can also be made adequate through a more closed system to resist similar bolts, providing near-total protection against immediately lethal fire. Primary rebreather systems will be located beneath the front plate while cooling, recharge, storage, and secondary systems will be moved rearward to reduce weight loadings. Total system weight is unlikely to exceed 90kg and IFV loadings will have to be modified for bulkier equipment but even a semi-powered system provides a good basis with which to match the enemy. (60B Or Cost) (Very Expensive)
Tempting, but man this is a bridge too far for our short-term technical capability, I think.

The rapid changes in combat are no different from the introduction of the anti-ship missile or adequate plasma stealth, leaving those officers who cannot adapt useless for promotion.
Hilariously, though the antiship missile was probably introduced well over a hundred years ago by this point, we probably have a significant number of military officers who remember that time.

The limited capacity on any ship sent to the Lirrir has been significant as there is little that can be done in a short timeframe. Combined with the scientific, diplomatic, and educational missions that are being assembled to transit on the Investigator with crew-extension military training personnel have been restricted to only twenty. Two of these are staff capable commanders that have proven adequate if unexceptional in exercise with the remainder capable instructors for teaching Lirrir modern doctrine and approaches. Several demonstration weapons and ATGM's adapted for the battlefield are to be shipped across with several printers and older chip-making machinery. Modernizing their military to the point that it can combat a full-scale alien threat larger than a few hundred mercenaries will be the work of decades, but with new technologies, discipline, and education that can be overcome. The largest goal so far has been the transfer of battery technologies as simple sodium units can entirely revolutionize their power grid and finally enable them to go towards a mechanized agricultural stage, freeing hundreds of millions from unproductive toil.
Yaay, we're helping!
 
I suppose a big question here is if we think tech will develop enough in six years but not nine that a whole new class of subs would be worth investing in.
Well, it's not just tech advances, it's design experience. After people have served a few deployments on these boats, will we have significant new ideas about what to do with them?

The hyperburst rifle strikes me as more of a compromise design, trying to still reliably put 10mm bullets in weak spots through shooting multiple per single trigger pull while not spending mass and bulk on unnecessarily overkill capabilities for light targets should it find itself going up against them. Such as, say, a fascist coup attempt, or that unrest in the northern policing area.
All the other guns have the same problem.

The hyper-precision smart rifle is not useful in fighting a coup attempt except in situations where ordinary dedicated marksman rifles would probably be about as effective. Because in a normal situation, the ability to put a bullet on the target's left nostril from 300 meters away is not important when hitting them somewhere in the general cranial vicnity will suffice.

Likewise, infantry armed with giant heavy machine gun bricks will generally be less practically equipped than infantry with more standard small arms, and so on.

All this stuff is fairly optimized to fighting aliens with zap guns, and should not be interpreted as an intended replacement for normal small arms for fighting purely 'terrestrial' conflicts.

With just a 6.5mm round and that fire rate, it feels like Avalon's offered us a dedicated rebel mulcher.
Yes. On the other hand, not so great against aliens with zap guns. A 2100 rpm rate of fire just means that you can BLAM through your entire rifle magazine in, say, 1-2 seconds. Most of those rounds will likely not be aimed very well; it's effectively a way to convert the rifle into "wildly uncontrolled shotgun blast of bullets" mode.

Obviously if trying to take out power armored alien infantry with this standard rifle takes precedence over everything here one of the first three I mentioned is our best bet. But with it confirmed that we are looking at further support weapons being started on next year the other two options (DMR mostly really) might possibly not be as bad a pick here for the standard rifle as they first appear? Or if we think we might run into signifigant amounts of non-power armored alien infantry, but given even the PMC the Lirrir fought a century ago had them for troops I don't expect that to be the case.
Yeah. Unless we meet someone whose spacecraft are as utterly cheap and ubiquitous as Star Wars, as a general rule, if it's worth putting an infantryman on a ship to send him to another planet at all, it's worth the cost of dressing him up in power armor so he'll be more survivable when he gets there.

"Arithmetic on the Frontier" applies.
 
Now hold on! Why would we ever admit to forming the failed academic infiltration ourselves when we can pin it on the fascists? Thank you so much for informing us Senator, the army will investigate and bring the perpetrators to justice immediately.
 
Because the legislators in question will probably want to hear about progress on the investigation. When it's time to arrest someone, who do we arrest?
 
I'd say that unless the Type 06 is much more dangerous than I hope it is, we should go with the first of these options, or the second if we have spare cash and nothing obvious to do with it.
Type 06 is objectively awful to work in. I think second option is the least we can do.
Can our guys even carry this shit? Fourteen kilograms for a 'battle rifle.' That's a lot heavier than I thought. Just how swole are our guys?
Yes, but they won't thank us for this. I think it's about the equivalent of carrying M249 around.
[]Grenade Launcher Derivatives
Boltgun, my beloved. We gotta pick this.
 
Because the legislators in question will probably want to hear about progress on the investigation. When it's time to arrest someone, who do we arrest?
The… the fascists Simon… we're going to arrest the fascists, that's the entire point of all our current intelligence operations. We're going to scapegoat them for our failure as soon as we're ready to hit them.
 
All the other guns have the same problem.

The hyper-precision smart rifle is not useful in fighting a coup attempt except in situations where ordinary dedicated marksman rifles would probably be about as effective. Because in a normal situation, the ability to put a bullet on the target's left nostril from 300 meters away is not important when hitting them somewhere in the general cranial vicnity will suffice.

Likewise, infantry armed with giant heavy machine gun bricks will generally be less practically equipped than infantry with more standard small arms, and so on.

All this stuff is fairly optimized to fighting aliens with zap guns, and should not be interpreted as an intended replacement for normal small arms for fighting purely 'terrestrial' conflicts.
I expect that the alien optimized options would end up being pushed into use in 'terrestial' conflicts though regardless of it's optimization, given that I am almost entirely certain this vote is what's going to be the new standard small arm for our grunts with the talk about how the Lirrir's autocannon solution needs to be portable to be a main line rifle, or the talk about how separate support weapons are starting development next year. There was also a (less applicable now that she chose otherwise) comment from Blackstar in the discord when she was thinking about possibly letting us choose more than one gun here: that it would probably just end in us taking the grenade launcher and something else, and a possible squad composition of a couple grenadiers, MG+assistant, AT+assistant, and then a bunch of normal rifles plus the squad leader.

Is our government apocalypse-prepping enough that they'll put a bunch of our old 6.5mm guns we have now into storage rather than being scrapped just in case? Probably, and if a purely terrestial conflict goes on long enough we may start pulling them out again to use. But if stuff starts happening fast, regardless of if it's alien or terrestrial, these new guns we're be giving out to everyone are what's going to be at hand the fastest regardless of how optimized they are for what they're facing.

Hmmm. This is a toughie. We have no idea when the first alien threat might show up. People who have a better handle on the budget situation should probably make this call.

A big part of the question is, is the current generation of orbital defense submarine the kind we want to use, or do we view it as a prototype for a future system we like better and a basis for development?

If this is just "the shape of ships to come" and we want further ambitious modifications to the design, then we absolutely don't want to buy 36 of the things and should seriously consider just paying the 150 gigabucks for the prototype development and then paying Bun to develop a better one.

If we actually intend these as a serious chunk of Danaan's orbital defense network for the next several decades, then we should probably go ahead and buy 36 with the serious intent of buying more, because if the balloon goes up we could absolutely use a lot more than 36.

Hm. If I really expected us to get hit right away I'd be opposed to the last option, but I kind of like the last option as-is. We're still in the "building workable tools" phase. And I get the feeling that we're really, really going to need high performance lasers for shipboard missile defense at some point.
I'm leaning towards not picking up any of the frigate laser upgrades right now. With only 470B Or right now the most expensive upgrade prevents us from ordering our GTO SSBNs, which I don't think is a good idea given that we just FTL jumped into a system that was likely under surveillance and identified outselves. The 50B Or option is more palatable, but with only 70B to split between it, replacing spacesuits, guns, and armor after ordering the SSBNs I'm not sure the compromises it would force on the rest of the options are worth it. Not on a ship that has shifted during design into being more of one trying to blow up enemies from outside of laser ranges with the big big cluster missiles.

Currently, the plans I'm thinking of are Order 26/36 Boats, Build as Is, Accelerated Replacement, Grenade Launcher Derivatives/DMR Modernization, and Wartime Developments, leaving us with 10-15B Or remaining.
 
Type 06 is objectively awful to work in. I think second option is the least we can do.
Valid.

The… the fascists Simon… we're going to arrest the fascists, that's the entire point of all our current intelligence operations. We're going to scapegoat them for our failure as soon as we're ready to hit them.
The problem then is that their lawyers will probably be able to prove they didn't actually do the specific things we're accusing them of doing. The witnesses will say "no, that is not the man who approached me to do this and that," and so on.
 
Simon. The fascists are infiltrating the army so they have military forces to coup the government with.

We're going to kill the fascists. We just need evidence sufficient to prove to the rest of the government that the fascists were traitors to elf democracy.

It's literally in our job description to enforce democracy. We don't need to ask permission and we only need evidence sufficient for justification to avoid the rest of the government trying to power struggle with us.
 
I think the "light" option would be appealing if we could always count on overwhelming numbers up against tiny numbers of alien infantry at the point of contact, but we may have to, say, fight them on a space station or something.
Troops on a space station would be equipped with the orbital combat suits we've developed. The only equipment shared between space and ground troops are the weapons and we'd likely be using the terrestrial combat suits on most planets as well.
 
Simon. The fascists are infiltrating the army so they have military forces to coup the government with.

We're going to kill the fascists. We just need evidence sufficient to prove to the rest of the government that the fascists were traitors to elf democracy.

It's literally in our job description to enforce democracy. We don't need to ask permission and we only need evidence sufficient for justification to avoid the rest of the government trying to power struggle with us.
Ahhh, I'm sorry. I somehow got the idea that there were going to be trials and stuff, or at any rate possible postmortem investigations as to who we just took out and shot, and why we did so.

If the plan was always summary executions followed by trumped-up retroactive charges, with no real concern of anyone ever looking too closely at the details, then it doesn't really make any practical difference what the nature of those charges was going to be. At least, assuming we succeed in killing all the relevant fascists on the first go.

In contrast, if we were going to actually be arresting all these people, then the charge switcheroo would present some issues. In a context where they have political friends who will say things like "on what charges" and "I demand that you let these murderous fascist creeps very fine people go at once unless you can prove them guilty of breaking the law," then it would be considerably useful to be able to accuse them of things they have, in fact, done. Otherwise, someone might have inconvenient questions for us, then or later on.

I hope you see where I'm coming from, even if you think this isn't actually a relevant concern in our game's society?
 
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Well hope we can deal with the fascists without having to glass cities because at this point our guys would gladly rebuild again then let them take over.
 
Well hope we can deal with the fascists without having to glass cities because at this point our guys would gladly rebuild again then let them take over.
Well, I'm now getting the sense that Parzival is envisioning a scenario where the Army just decides who all the fascist infiltrators are, then rounds them up quite abruptly and shoots them all, and doesn't expect there to be many inconvenient questions about who we shot, or why, or on what grounds.

In that situation, yeah, it doesn't really matter whether we accuse the already-dead fascists only of things they actually did, though it's probably a bad idea to ONLY accuse them of things they did not, specifically, do.

It's if we're planning for there to be actual trials of some kind, with rules of evidence and the possibility of some of the accused having legal representation, that it matters whether we're lying or not when we say which things we killed them for.
 
Well, I'm now getting the sense that Parzival is envisioning a scenario where the Army just decides who all the fascist infiltrators are, then rounds them up quite abruptly and shoots them all, and doesn't expect there to be many inconvenient questions about who we shot, or why, or on what grounds.

In that situation, yeah, it doesn't really matter whether we accuse the already-dead fascists only of things they actually did, though it's probably a bad idea to ONLY accuse them of things they did not, specifically, do.

It's if we're planning for there to be actual trials of some kind, with rules of evidence and the possibility of some of the accused having legal representation, that it matters whether we're lying or not when we say which things we killed them for.
Yes would rather deal with the situation quietly but it keeps on tripping and tripping more when doing it, so can only hope that don't have to do a coup and if can't get take care most of the fascists and cities during that the sunshine would be used again.
 
[] Plan MIC Derived Grenades
-[]Order Thirty-Six Boats (400B Or Now, 600B Or from the next budget)
-[]Build as Is
-[]Accelerated Replacement (20B Or Cost)
-[]Grenade Launcher Derivatives (15B Or Cost)
-[]Wartime Developments (25B Or Cost)
460/470B Or

With the submarines being the primary defense against ships we will have if we lose control of the orbits, it is vital that we get as many as we can so that the enemy cannot safely sit in orbit. While the new laser systems are a good upgrade over our current ones, that is also nearly completely irrelevant for them with them only being useful if the enemy charges into range after we've expended all the missiles. Our current suits are really, really bad with them being the only thing the space force has asked of us and strongly so. I really would prefer to do the aggressive modernization program instead, but that would require either delaying the submarines or being forced to use the heavy rifle and light armor.

As for said equipment I like the grenade launcher and wartime developments the most. The grenade launcher is the only weapon other than the heavy rifle that can penetrate the front plates of the captured power armor with the grenades being able to possible even penetrate the primary plate. It is however lighter than the heavy rifle and also has the most potential for further development of the rounds it fires, while also having versatility in ammo choices which will be particularly useful for fighting unarmored enemies and in space. As for the armor, wartime developments seem the most sensible with it providing decent enough protection while not hindering on foot mobility. Leave the power assisted armor for the heavy infantry prototypes project.
 
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