I think we should go for Roth, he seems the least Shadowed of the lot and we would we well served not to shroud ourselves in too much of the discord.
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A light from the shadows shall spring (Tolkien AU reboot)
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[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
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[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
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Kir the Wizard
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As SHINY and potentially interesting as the options of a Noldor spirit advisor, or of a leader of a tribe from the Grey Mountains seem, I do concur that the shaman that can contact forest Maїar and the diplomatic orc chieftain from Rhudaur are the more logical options.
[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
You know one nice thing about Roth is we would finally have a decent mystical line to the other side of the fence... er I mean the side we want to be on. Obviously we cannot use Bombadril as a go between since the lazy SoB does not move, but he would know birds and beasts and spirits that are known to the Wise which means with a bit of luck and a lot of bribery we might get to the point where we can send envoys even to such places as Rivendale at dire need.... like say if we have word of the Nazgul abroad in the land.
ganonso
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You are going to be contacted by the other side soon. People have not missed the Black Numenorean warning Bree from an invasion. It's enough to have Gandalf begins to snoop. Aragorn is not in Arnor (I follow the fanon where he travelled a lot between his jaunt as Thorongil and 3009 where he enters the narrative again as Gollum's hunter) at the moment but the Dunedain are aware something is happening in Angmar.
Speaking of that, I am kind of surprised we had the accountants to make him look like a prince of Gondor. Did we empty out some wight's tomb for clothes and trinkets?
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ganonso
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The Black Numenoreans of Angmar retained riches in their hidden communities. While the Prince of Gondor thing was mostly the Breemen having no idea what nobility looks like, Iorthondaer and Nelineniel can requisition clothing who while old is well-kept along with exquisite jewelry and gold.
So the Breeemen saw a tall man with grey eyes and great charisma, with a sword of forged steel at his belt, clothing that denoted riches and even jewelry of high art because the Black Numenoreans did not lose the arts of the forge. As the inhabitants of Eriador are quick to judge by appearance (see their disdain of the Rangers), they were very inclined to respect him.
Ah... OK so more like a well-to-do merchant of Gondor. Still it does bring up the point that the Rangers might have been well served keeping or getting some 'Sunday-best' for talking to the likes of the Breemen. When the local orcs can manage to be believed more easily than you there is something wrong.
We are not exactly Annatar the Lord of Gifts, what with the ruins, the orcs and the wraiths.
ganonso
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To be fair an Orc would have had more problems which is why I asked you what was your plan if you sent Ghulghash (which would have sparked an encounter with either Hallabrad or Gandalf or even an interception by Elladan and Elrohir. A Rhudaurim (which by the way you don't have as an advisor) would have been received neutrally as some trade with the Bree-folk.
Lindir is a special case as he would have pushed the warning in dreams. But he would have tripped alarms even at Rivendell. There the encounter would have surely been with Glorfindel as a Wraith moving into town demands rigorous investigation.
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[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
[X] Roth son of Golf
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
[X] Barzud son of Anzbash
War for Fornost: Part 1
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War for Fornost: Part 1
And it came to be in the year 2984 of the Third Age that among the Orcs occupying Deadman's Dike who once was Fornost the capital of martyred Arthedain arose a mighty chieftain named Belgrud who took as his own the crown of the ancient kings. This, he made almost certainly by mockery as the Orcs were made by Morgoth Bauglir as a jeer against the One and all his works. To him he gathered a mighty horde and there were many who had remained and multiplied in the ruins since it had been the court of the Lord of the Nazgul when he finished the destruction of the northern kingdom. Yet even more flocked at his banner for he preached the rebirth of a kingdom of Orcs where Men would pay tribute to their hungers. They came from near as the foothills bordering Lake Evendim and from the north too. Indeed many Trolls were driven from the Trollshaws and the Ettenmoors to attend to him. Yet his purpose had been revealed to the folks of Bree and their watchers the Dunedains of Arnor who prepared for his coming a year round. They even tried to assault the ruins and yet failed for the number of foes was great. They could not even keep Orcs from Gundabad to advance quickly by night in small bands and hearken to their new chieftain.
Not trusting his chances with only Orcs, Trolls and the bandits of the wild at his side, Belgrud decided on a horrid bargain. Among his following were some who had remained in the ruins of fallen Numenor for they loved knowledge. And they knew tatters of lore and dark intent who had been given to their ancestors by the Witch-King as one give scraps to a dog. And they knew legends of their home. So they travelled to secret places where once the dead of the Dunedain had been laid to rest and even in Fornost, they opened the tombs of the Kings which none of their ancestors had dared. And from them issued wights for in his hatred for the descendants of Isildur, the Black Captain had desecrated their bones and commanded fell spirits to inhabit their corpses. And yet it was not the worst for Belgrud commanded his forces to hurry in fallen Annuiminas from where the whole kingdom had been ruled. There led by he claimed to have been fearful dreams, they opened an ancient vault from which an old terror came flying.
None knew what it was exactly. It was taller than a man and had black wings who spread like the smoke of pyres. Its face was horned and bestial and its claws were iron. It flew through the air and drank blood. The Wise accounted it a servant of Morgoth who had escaped the terrible wars who had led to the fall of Thangorodrim eons ago. How long did this horror sleep beneath the earth, under stone, before being leashed by the Lord of the Nazgul and put to haunt the ruins of his foes? None may know for it did not speak to its prey and seemed a beast in thoughts and deeds. There were some who thought it could be Thuringwetil named in the lay of Luthien the fair, for the songs said only the maiden clad herself in her skin and no account is made of her end. Under its wings gathered bats in great numbers and wolves and wargs. Knowing about it, many of the Dunedain were grim for it seemed to them the great purpose of their people would fall even if gathered with the folk of Eriador they tried to protect.
Yet help came from an unexpected corner, for even further north than Gundabad, the Witch-Realm of Angmar had awaken but not for the purposes of the Dark Lord but for the glory of its leader and some even said for a mightier doom. It was them who had warned Bree of the danger and now they knew they had to come even if no alliance existed. Surely unprecedented would it be in the north of Middle-Earth for Orcs to come help other men. In the north of Middle-Earth for some tales known only to the great travelers and to Gandalf the Wizard assure that in the south, in the lands of the Haradrim, it had happened and of course each time the Dark Lord had wished it. Still the old captain was cautious and knew all too well no friendship existed between his people and the Free People. Indeed the messenger he had chosen had been of the blood of the Edain. And as such the choice he made was harsh indeed and would have great consequences on the what followed.
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[] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
[] He dispatched some of his captains mighty among those the Wise call the Black Numenoreans and with them came a small force composed of their folk, proud and cruel and enamored of knowledge deep. And with them came lords and ladies of forsaken Rhudaur who still held allegiance to their ancient lords. They came to the folks of Bree in majesty, looking very much as the kings of old and to the Dunedain they spoke of ancient kinship and renewal of some oaths. For even as they had been rebellious to the Powers, they were ready to confess Morgoth and Sauron were of their number and so were to be scorned with the others. In their train rode no Orcs even if they did not hid who reigned in Carn Dûm and invited both Hallabrad regent of the Dunedain and Gandalf to come to the citadel.
[] He came in secret, eschewing the company of the Free People and delighting in the thought of a hidden deed and a great enigma. With him was Lindir who had been pierced by a Morgul-blade and elite Orcs and black Numenoreans. Small was this force and made to travel swiftly and by night yet it was made of the chivalry of his dark realm. He went to the horde of Belgrud as they travelled on the road, ready to attack and fell upon him, ready to slay the would-be king and leave his corpse as a riddling message on the ground even before the hosts of Eriador met him. And Gandalf grew suspicious and moved to Carn Dûm as he had once walked Dol Guldur and he came without being expected and with questions and a riddling smile of his own.
And it came to be in the year 2984 of the Third Age that among the Orcs occupying Deadman's Dike who once was Fornost the capital of martyred Arthedain arose a mighty chieftain named Belgrud who took as his own the crown of the ancient kings. This, he made almost certainly by mockery as the Orcs were made by Morgoth Bauglir as a jeer against the One and all his works. To him he gathered a mighty horde and there were many who had remained and multiplied in the ruins since it had been the court of the Lord of the Nazgul when he finished the destruction of the northern kingdom. Yet even more flocked at his banner for he preached the rebirth of a kingdom of Orcs where Men would pay tribute to their hungers. They came from near as the foothills bordering Lake Evendim and from the north too. Indeed many Trolls were driven from the Trollshaws and the Ettenmoors to attend to him. Yet his purpose had been revealed to the folks of Bree and their watchers the Dunedains of Arnor who prepared for his coming a year round. They even tried to assault the ruins and yet failed for the number of foes was great. They could not even keep Orcs from Gundabad to advance quickly by night in small bands and hearken to their new chieftain.
Not trusting his chances with only Orcs, Trolls and the bandits of the wild at his side, Belgrud decided on a horrid bargain. Among his following were some who had remained in the ruins of fallen Numenor for they loved knowledge. And they knew tatters of lore and dark intent who had been given to their ancestors by the Witch-King as one give scraps to a dog. And they knew legends of their home. So they travelled to secret places where once the dead of the Dunedain had been laid to rest and even in Fornost, they opened the tombs of the Kings which none of their ancestors had dared. And from them issued wights for in his hatred for the descendants of Isildur, the Black Captain had desecrated their bones and commanded fell spirits to inhabit their corpses. And yet it was not the worst for Belgrud commanded his forces to hurry in fallen Annuiminas from where the whole kingdom had been ruled. There led by he claimed to have been fearful dreams, they opened an ancient vault from which an old terror came flying.
None knew what it was exactly. It was taller than a man and had black wings who spread like the smoke of pyres. Its face was horned and bestial and its claws were iron. It flew through the air and drank blood. The Wise accounted it a servant of Morgoth who had escaped the terrible wars who had led to the fall of Thangorodrim eons ago. How long did this horror sleep beneath the earth, under stone, before being leashed by the Lord of the Nazgul and put to haunt the ruins of his foes? None may know for it did not speak to its prey and seemed a beast in thoughts and deeds. There were some who thought it could be Thuringwetil named in the lay of Luthien the fair, for the songs said only the maiden clad herself in her skin and no account is made of her end. Under its wings gathered bats in great numbers and wolves and wargs. Knowing about it, many of the Dunedain were grim for it seemed to them the great purpose of their people would fall even if gathered with the folk of Eriador they tried to protect.
Yet help came from an unexpected corner, for even further north than Gundabad, the Witch-Realm of Angmar had awaken but not for the purposes of the Dark Lord but for the glory of its leader and some even said for a mightier doom. It was them who had warned Bree of the danger and now they knew they had to come even if no alliance existed. Surely unprecedented would it be in the north of Middle-Earth for Orcs to come help other men. In the north of Middle-Earth for some tales known only to the great travelers and to Gandalf the Wizard assure that in the south, in the lands of the Haradrim, it had happened and of course each time the Dark Lord had wished it. Still the old captain was cautious and knew all too well no friendship existed between his people and the Free People. Indeed the messenger he had chosen had been of the blood of the Edain. And as such the choice he made was harsh indeed and would have great consequences on the what followed.
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[] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
[] He dispatched some of his captains mighty among those the Wise call the Black Numenoreans and with them came a small force composed of their folk, proud and cruel and enamored of knowledge deep. And with them came lords and ladies of forsaken Rhudaur who still held allegiance to their ancient lords. They came to the folks of Bree in majesty, looking very much as the kings of old and to the Dunedain they spoke of ancient kinship and renewal of some oaths. For even as they had been rebellious to the Powers, they were ready to confess Morgoth and Sauron were of their number and so were to be scorned with the others. In their train rode no Orcs even if they did not hid who reigned in Carn Dûm and invited both Hallabrad regent of the Dunedain and Gandalf to come to the citadel.
[] He came in secret, eschewing the company of the Free People and delighting in the thought of a hidden deed and a great enigma. With him was Lindir who had been pierced by a Morgul-blade and elite Orcs and black Numenoreans. Small was this force and made to travel swiftly and by night yet it was made of the chivalry of his dark realm. He went to the horde of Belgrud as they travelled on the road, ready to attack and fell upon him, ready to slay the would-be king and leave his corpse as a riddling message on the ground even before the hosts of Eriador met him. And Gandalf grew suspicious and moved to Carn Dûm as he had once walked Dol Guldur and he came without being expected and with questions and a riddling smile of his own.
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[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
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[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
Secrecy or outright fuck you...i choose fuck you.
Secrecy or outright fuck you...i choose fuck you.
[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
Not many people get to amaze Gandalf, let's go for it.
Not many people get to amaze Gandalf, let's go for it.
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[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
You know it is kind of funny that we are showing up like this
Repentant Orc: Have some barrow gold fellow Free People. Anyone want to learn Guldur, me and the wraith are doing a seminar on how to burn your enemies in unholy fire.
Gandalf: The Valar are not paying me enough for this shit.
Rhadagast: They are not paying you at all
Gandalf: Exactly
Repentant Orc: Have some barrow gold fellow Free People. Anyone want to learn Guldur, me and the wraith are doing a seminar on how to burn your enemies in unholy fire.
Gandalf: The Valar are not paying me enough for this shit.
Rhadagast: They are not paying you at all
Gandalf: Exactly
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[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.
ganonso
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You know it is kind of funny that we are showing up like this
Repentant Orc: Have some barrow gold fellow Free People. Anyone want to learn Guldur, me and the wraith are doing a seminar on how to burn your enemies in unholy fire.
Gandalf: The Valar are not paying me enough for this shit.
Rhadagast: They are not paying you at all
Gandalf: Exactly
While indeed funny Ghulgash will be more proposing himself as an apprentice to divers people rather than a teacher. Elrond or Gandalf having a "Orc but student, but Orc!" moment is more than likely.
Or while not funny, the fact he knows Gandalf is not human and thinks he is some kind of hybrid like himself is going to come up in conversation.
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[X] He came in secret, eschewing the company of the Free People and delighting in the thought of a hidden deed and a great enigma. With him was Lindir who had been pierced by a Morgul-blade and elite Orcs and black Numenoreans. Small was this force and made to travel swiftly and by night yet it was made of the chivalry of his dark realm. He went to the horde of Belgrud as they travelled on the road, ready to attack and fell upon him, ready to slay the would-be king and leave his corpse as a riddling message on the ground even before the hosts of Eriador met him. And Gandalf grew suspicious and moved to Carn Dûm as he had once walked Dol Guldur and he came without being expected and with questions and a riddling smile of his own.
I can't wait for the reaction when he realizes Gandalf is a servant of Nienna, the Power that showed him the way.
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[X] He came himself in raiment of dark splendor along with his captains save one whose presence would have been accursed by the Dunedain and with good reason. With him came the forces of Carn Dûm and small forces of Rhudhaur from the ranks of the Hill-Men. He met with the leaders of Bree and offered great gifts of barrow gold and things long wrought in the forges of Angmar. To the Dunedain he spoke of dreams full of portent and ancient sins who now had come to be atoned. And Gandalf was astounded for it was a great surprise even for him.