Good thing you can change that if you try, also did you know that the kaiser originally disagreed with invading Belgium and had to be convinced by motlke,, so if you can delay the invasion of Belgium until after russia falls germany can actually win. Plus with you having some ships a portion of the British fleet would be stuck blockading you.
A Central African Colony Quest: Long Live The colony of Mittelafrika.
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It's 1904 and WW1 hasn't started yet and if we do lose the war Mittelafrika will be divided by the Allied powers and if you think we would be left alone if we were to go independent thats literally asking for every european power to immediately partition us, no our choices are either we stay with Germany or die immediately when going independent.
edit: I think you are wrong in assuming we even have a country left to govern should germany lose to the allies.
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4WheelSword
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That's a... bold position to take.
Additionally, the events for the Collapse of Mittleafrika in Kaiserreich would occur again, this time backed by certain Colonial Powers.
That's pretty much how I viewed the German Empire since, like you said, Prussia unfied all the non-Austrian German states that allowed the military to have so much influence and power.
That I didn't know but the military has more influence in what they do and literally trying to delay the invasion will hurt later, especially since the military's influence is gonna increase as time go on...
4WheelSword
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Just to go back to this - Does this mean they've laid down the South Carolina's? Is Dreadnought coming off the slips soon?
No they are building your ships in thier drydocks and are saving up money. Dreadnought will leave dock early in 1905.
Not normal until ww2 but not impossible since most are under 100 tons and your a large colony
Canada as of 1904: "..Wheres ours?" (Canada comission 130 in ww1)
Aside from Militarism (out of necessary), how shall we unite the Tribes to not get Kaiserreich'd out of here?
We probably can't, if they do somehow unite they will overthrow us and if we try to become equal(politically speaking) with them the Kaiser will replace us or the natives think its better to just get rid of us. Odds are it is near impossible(it would take several decades) to unite every single african people in our colony cause of the sheer distance, population, ethnicity, languages, tribal rivalry and hatred that is either born out of ancient feuds or set up by other europeans to divide them.
4WheelSword
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So we have circa ~1 year until our fleet is... functionally obsolete and no ability to compete with another great power economically or logistically. Germany and the US are about to enter the dreadnought race in earnest and I doubt they'll have the dockspace for us.
Like, don't get me wrong, the pre-dreads will be useful but it's not like they'll be able to stand in the line anywhere.
I feel as if we are the Targaryens in a Westeros..
4WheelSword
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More like the Belgians in Congo
Turn 1
You are Friedrich Schreider or at least that's what this body name is you have to lead this world's version of german mittelafrika kinda similar to kaiserreich now that you think about it. You ended up walking to your new building in the port city of... actually you don't know its name but anyway, you are here apparently to fix this colony and make it profitable. Thankfully the colony had a relatively large focus on the nay as evidenced by the semi-dreadnought that brought you here from Germany, however the previous man who lead the colony did a garbage job at it to the point that there were little to no nonmilitary sea transports, no railways and like 4 hospitals. it was now your time to join the government and get info about the country from the previous ruler's council, oh wait for you they're dead, ****.
Current exchange rate to USD 4 Goldmark t 1 USD
You have 6 actions that you can take and the total of your colony's GDP is 98 billion Goldmark or 24.5 billion USD. the American GDP is 300 billion, the British is 287 billion, the german is 237 billion, France 191, Russia 164, Austria 154, japan 112, and the Netherlands 49 billion (note all of these are guesses if you think they should be different just ask tho the American one is staying the same as in 1900 OTL they were nearing the 300 billion point) revenue yearly 6 billion GM expenditure 10 billion GM, german Foreign aid 2 billion GM Debt to Germain empire 29 Billion GM at 29.59 percent of GDP it is above the optimal of 0-20%, tho it will only be worrying if the growth of the debt greatly exceeds the economic growth, or if the debt is over 77% of GDP as it hurts economic growth.
your budget for this year is 10 billion gold mark however every month five hundred fifty million is spent on upkeep. (population is 40 million)
Bills/laws (max of 1 actions used here)
Bills/laws are how you get things done in the government while naturally, bills will appear before the government you can suggest bills and have them appear before the government when you want them you are even capable of slightly modifying them.
[] The Service Equals Citizenship Act: Any man over 16 no matter his nationality, Religion, or Race, May join the military for a 4-year service period. After 1 year of service, they will gain citizenship and the ability to vote after the full 4 years. this should help increase the number of men in your military hopefully enough to deploy 1 or 2 extra divisions.
-[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
-[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
-[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
-[]No lobbying
[] The 1904 Naval Expansion act: Will see a large number of funds to help with the acquisition of the following ships.
-[] 8 armored cruisers, 12 light cruisers, 6 scout cruisers, 38 destroyers, and 14 submarines. (decrease success chance by 20, 400 million)
-[] 6 armored cruisers,8, light cruisers, 4 scout cruisers, 30 destroyers, 8 submarines, ( decrease success chance by 10, 300 million)
-[] 4 armored cruisers, 6 light cruisers, 2 scout cruisers, 20 destroyers. (no change, 200 million)
-[] Write in
--[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
--[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
--[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
--[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
--[]No lobbying
[] The 1904 Conscription act: will see a mandatory service period for men over 18 in any branch or role in the military for a predetermined period of time.
-[] 1 Year mandatory service (no change
-[] 2-year mandatory service
-[] 3-year mandatory service
-[] 4-year mandatory service
--[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
--[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
--[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
--[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
--[]No lobbying
[] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
-[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
-[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
-[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
-[]No lobbying
Diplo/intrique
[] Sign a diplomatic deal with the germans. (insert details about the deal) (1 month)
[] a who's who of congress : you have no idea who is in the congress and you would like to fix that so thier for you will go and figure out which partys and how many representatives thier are. (you may come up with names of leaders, partys number of rpesentatives, with the only restriction being the conservite christion party is the largest just like in germany) (1 month)
[] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
[] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
Industry
[] What do we have: you will look over and see what local industry providers you have.
-[] invite out of country Industry. (2 months, 10 million) (which ones, non british or french as relations with them are low)
-[] Fiance Local Industry (4 months 20 million) (what will they be named)
-[] Both (4 months 30 million) (which ones, and what will the local ones be named)
[] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
[] River transports: you shall build large amounts of river and lake transports to speed up movement througout the country. (3 months, 50 million)
[] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
[] Roads for all (part 1): you will pave all the roads in your major citys which should hopefully help the econamy. (6 months, 25 million)
Military (budget= 2%=200 million, split 55% army 40% navy and 5% airforce and under your predecessor 50% embezzled)
Army 110 million GM
[] war games: you shall make your 5 infantry and 1 cavalry division face the 1 german infantry ivision you brought in a large series f war games to see just how bad they are, each division is a standered german divison with 17,500 men (russia had 16,000 britian 18,000) this will give you a iew onjust how effective your army is at the current time. (1month) (1 million)
[] New Gun: the gweher 98 seems like a lrelativly decent gun that you can use to repelace the local divisions gweher 88. (2 Months, 75 Million)
[] A new Gun: using some of the knowlagde you have yoru sure that you could inch the design teems of this colony towards a design similar to the midwar K-98k. (3 Months, 20 million)
[] Dealing with rebels: you shall send your menout to deal with the local rebels. (1 month, ? million) (your advisers sugest you dont do this until you A get your army up to par and B figure out more about the rebels.)
Navy 80 million GM
[] War games: your navy will cunduct its own wargames with some of the nearby german naval units along with participateing in your own wargames with the army (1 month) (1 million)
[]Rebuild the goverment dockyards: you will completly rebuild the goverment naval dockyards because of this you will hae to rely on the few private dockyards in the country. (12 months) (100 million)
[] Private docks: you will look into the private dockyards and if thier are none you will invite foern ones to set up braches here and perhaps finance the creation of local private shipyards. (1 month)
-[] invite out of country shipyards. (4 months, 20 million) (which ones, non british or french as relations with them are low)
-[] Fiance Local shipyards (6 months 40 million) (what will they be named)
-[] Both (6 months 60 million) (which ones, and what will the local ones be named)
[] design a ship (what do you want designed lmited to tech that existed before the launch of HMS Dreadnought.)
Air Force 10 million GM
[] Wargames: the zepplions shall particapate in the war games between your land forces. (1 month) (3 million)
[] Order some zeppplions and scout blimps (1 million per 2 zepplions, 1 million per 10 scout blimps.) (1 month)
If you have questions ask me.
Current exchange rate to USD 4 Goldmark t 1 USD
You have 6 actions that you can take and the total of your colony's GDP is 98 billion Goldmark or 24.5 billion USD. the American GDP is 300 billion, the British is 287 billion, the german is 237 billion, France 191, Russia 164, Austria 154, japan 112, and the Netherlands 49 billion (note all of these are guesses if you think they should be different just ask tho the American one is staying the same as in 1900 OTL they were nearing the 300 billion point) revenue yearly 6 billion GM expenditure 10 billion GM, german Foreign aid 2 billion GM Debt to Germain empire 29 Billion GM at 29.59 percent of GDP it is above the optimal of 0-20%, tho it will only be worrying if the growth of the debt greatly exceeds the economic growth, or if the debt is over 77% of GDP as it hurts economic growth.
your budget for this year is 10 billion gold mark however every month five hundred fifty million is spent on upkeep. (population is 40 million)
Bills/laws (max of 1 actions used here)
Bills/laws are how you get things done in the government while naturally, bills will appear before the government you can suggest bills and have them appear before the government when you want them you are even capable of slightly modifying them.
[] The Service Equals Citizenship Act: Any man over 16 no matter his nationality, Religion, or Race, May join the military for a 4-year service period. After 1 year of service, they will gain citizenship and the ability to vote after the full 4 years. this should help increase the number of men in your military hopefully enough to deploy 1 or 2 extra divisions.
-[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
-[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
-[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
-[]No lobbying
[] The 1904 Naval Expansion act: Will see a large number of funds to help with the acquisition of the following ships.
-[] 8 armored cruisers, 12 light cruisers, 6 scout cruisers, 38 destroyers, and 14 submarines. (decrease success chance by 20, 400 million)
-[] 6 armored cruisers,8, light cruisers, 4 scout cruisers, 30 destroyers, 8 submarines, ( decrease success chance by 10, 300 million)
-[] 4 armored cruisers, 6 light cruisers, 2 scout cruisers, 20 destroyers. (no change, 200 million)
-[] Write in
--[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
--[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
--[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
--[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
--[]No lobbying
[] The 1904 Conscription act: will see a mandatory service period for men over 18 in any branch or role in the military for a predetermined period of time.
-[] 1 Year mandatory service (no change
-[] 2-year mandatory service
-[] 3-year mandatory service
-[] 4-year mandatory service
--[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
--[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
--[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
--[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
--[]No lobbying
[] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
-[] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[] extensive lobbying (5 Million costs,)
-[]Partial Lobbying (2 million costs
-[] Some lobbying (1 million costs)
-[]No lobbying
Diplo/intrique
[] Sign a diplomatic deal with the germans. (insert details about the deal) (1 month)
[] a who's who of congress : you have no idea who is in the congress and you would like to fix that so thier for you will go and figure out which partys and how many representatives thier are. (you may come up with names of leaders, partys number of rpesentatives, with the only restriction being the conservite christion party is the largest just like in germany) (1 month)
[] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
[] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
Industry
[] What do we have: you will look over and see what local industry providers you have.
-[] invite out of country Industry. (2 months, 10 million) (which ones, non british or french as relations with them are low)
-[] Fiance Local Industry (4 months 20 million) (what will they be named)
-[] Both (4 months 30 million) (which ones, and what will the local ones be named)
[] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
[] River transports: you shall build large amounts of river and lake transports to speed up movement througout the country. (3 months, 50 million)
[] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
[] Roads for all (part 1): you will pave all the roads in your major citys which should hopefully help the econamy. (6 months, 25 million)
Military (budget= 2%=200 million, split 55% army 40% navy and 5% airforce and under your predecessor 50% embezzled)
Army 110 million GM
[] war games: you shall make your 5 infantry and 1 cavalry division face the 1 german infantry ivision you brought in a large series f war games to see just how bad they are, each division is a standered german divison with 17,500 men (russia had 16,000 britian 18,000) this will give you a iew onjust how effective your army is at the current time. (1month) (1 million)
[] New Gun: the gweher 98 seems like a lrelativly decent gun that you can use to repelace the local divisions gweher 88. (2 Months, 75 Million)
[] A new Gun: using some of the knowlagde you have yoru sure that you could inch the design teems of this colony towards a design similar to the midwar K-98k. (3 Months, 20 million)
[] Dealing with rebels: you shall send your menout to deal with the local rebels. (1 month, ? million) (your advisers sugest you dont do this until you A get your army up to par and B figure out more about the rebels.)
Navy 80 million GM
[] War games: your navy will cunduct its own wargames with some of the nearby german naval units along with participateing in your own wargames with the army (1 month) (1 million)
[]Rebuild the goverment dockyards: you will completly rebuild the goverment naval dockyards because of this you will hae to rely on the few private dockyards in the country. (12 months) (100 million)
[] Private docks: you will look into the private dockyards and if thier are none you will invite foern ones to set up braches here and perhaps finance the creation of local private shipyards. (1 month)
-[] invite out of country shipyards. (4 months, 20 million) (which ones, non british or french as relations with them are low)
-[] Fiance Local shipyards (6 months 40 million) (what will they be named)
-[] Both (6 months 60 million) (which ones, and what will the local ones be named)
[] design a ship (what do you want designed lmited to tech that existed before the launch of HMS Dreadnought.)
Air Force 10 million GM
[] Wargames: the zepplions shall particapate in the war games between your land forces. (1 month) (3 million)
[] Order some zeppplions and scout blimps (1 million per 2 zepplions, 1 million per 10 scout blimps.) (1 month)
If you have questions ask me.
4WheelSword
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[X] Plan: Everything could be better
-[X] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
--[X] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[X] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
-[X] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
-[X] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] war games: you shall make your 5 infantry and 1 cavalry division face the 1 german infantry ivision you brought in a large series f war games to see just how bad they are, each division is a standered german divison with 17,500 men (russia had 16,000 britian 18,000) this will give you a iew onjust how effective your army is at the current time. (1month) (1 million)
-[X] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
--[X] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[X] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
-[X] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
-[X] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] war games: you shall make your 5 infantry and 1 cavalry division face the 1 german infantry ivision you brought in a large series f war games to see just how bad they are, each division is a standered german divison with 17,500 men (russia had 16,000 britian 18,000) this will give you a iew onjust how effective your army is at the current time. (1month) (1 million)
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- alphen aan den rijn
other then lose the wargames for more industry of all types i mostly agree with above
Info on mittelafrika
this post will be used for info on your colony
[X] Plan: Middle Africa Industrial Legislation
-[X] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
--[X] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[X] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
-[X] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
-[X] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] Fiance Local Industry (4 months 20 million) Mittelafrika Textilunternehmen
Much the same as everything could be better but army takes a back seat for now as we have a few years before we should be thinking about it
-[X] Standards in the workplace act: will see the implementation of a work day of 8 hours with businesses having to pay overtime pay for 1.5 times Regular pay. it bans child labor and puts in place a minimum of 14 vacation days paid and 8 sick days paid.
--[X] Immense lobbying(10 million costs,)
-[X] a Internal investigation: you shall investigate your predisecsors actions and see just how much he imbezeled. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] A rebel inestigation: you shall investigate local rebels and figure out more about them. (3 months, 20 million)
-[X] Trans-africa railway: you will build a railway between Mombasa, Dar Es Salem, and Wilhelmsville. it will be the first railway built in 14 years (9 months, 100 Million)
-[X] farmer investigation: you will inverstigate the farmers in your nation and see what the farms are like. (2 months, 5 million)
-[X] Fiance Local Industry (4 months 20 million) Mittelafrika Textilunternehmen
Much the same as everything could be better but army takes a back seat for now as we have a few years before we should be thinking about it
[X] Plan: Everything could be better
[X] Plan: Middle Africa Industrial Legislation